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Stanford Graduate School of BusinessBlackstone's Stephen Schwarzman on Hiring Phenomenal People
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Why Blackstone? Defining a distinctive strategy before starting
The host asks how Blackstone got started despite private equity being new and the founders lacking an investing track record. Stephen Schwarzman explains that early success depends on thinking through what you’ll do and why anyone needs you—before you start operating.
- •Schwarzman describes entrepreneurship as far harder at the beginning than most people expect
- •He says a new business must offer something distinctive, not just friendly relationships
- •He and Pete Peterson met for hours daily without an office to define what the firm should be
- •He frames early planning as building a strategy that answers “why does anybody need you?”
The original “great fantasy”: three-part plan for a new firm
Schwarzman outlines the initial blueprint he and his co-founder designed for the business. He explains how they aimed to combine a cash-flow business, predictable income, and opportunities created by industry restructuring.
- •They initially wanted to focus on M&A because it was a cash-flow business and avoided raising capital
- •They added private equity for management fees and more predictable income, emphasizing risk minimization
- •They anticipated consolidation in the industry and sought to keep a cohesive “small feeling”
- •They expected consolidation to create access to great talent that could be attracted at the right moment
Building “affiliates”: investment opportunity, hiring “tens,” and intellectual capital
Schwarzman describes a model of creating new business units they called affiliates and what criteria those units had to meet. He stresses the importance of recruiting exceptional leaders and continuously generating intellectual capital.
- •Affiliates were structured as 50/50 deals and later folded into Blackstone
- •Three criteria: a compelling investment opportunity, a “10 out of 10” leader, and intellectual capital that strengthens the broader firm
- •He contrasts “tens,” “nines,” and “eights,” emphasizing the outsized impact of top talent
- •He characterizes the firm’s real business as building intellectual capital, not just managing money
Rejection, resilience, and “force of will” in fundraising
Schwarzman recounts the difficulty of raising the first private equity fund and the personal toll of repeated rejection. He argues that persistence and adaptability are essential, and that setbacks can change you as a leader.
- •They sent out hundreds of offering circulars and initially secured only a small group of investors
- •He describes rejection as feeling personal—“it’s you”—and says the capacity to endure it is critical
- •He says they raised a record-setting first-time fund through force of will despite having made no prior investments
- •He recounts an incident where a potential investor misrepresented why they wouldn’t invest, underscoring the need for thick skin
Keeping a startup mindset: fear of failure, innovation, and avoiding complacency
Schwarzman explains how early fear of failure can drive extraordinary effort and why he still views the company as a startup. He warns that organizations become vulnerable when they get sloppy, overconfident, or stop innovating.
- •He says you “never sleep” early on because fear of failure keeps you vigilant
- •He describes the need to be adaptable while holding onto a basic plan
- •He says he loves inventing new things and bringing them into reality
- •He argues complacency erodes vision and makes firms targets for competitors who innovate faster
Founder vs. CEO: learning the job, communication impact, and managing people over time
Asked about transitioning from founder to CEO, Schwarzman says the roles require different skills and that CEO behavior is learned. He highlights how a CEO’s words are amplified and why managing people requires patience, dignity, and careful sequencing.
- •He agrees there’s no “CEO gene” and calls it trained behavior
- •He notes CEOs must be exceptionally careful because people amplify what they say—even jokes
- •He contrasts deal-making with team leadership, stressing people aren’t “parts of a deal”
- •He says some people moves can take years to avoid breaking confidence or damaging the institution
- •He emphasizes repeatedly articulating core values and balancing control with autonomy to retain top talent
Personal leadership style and the “touchy feely” question: creating psychological safety through process
The host asks about emotionally aware, vulnerable leadership. Schwarzman responds by focusing on truth-telling, making people feel secure, and designing systems that depersonalize critique—especially in investment decisions.
- •He says leaders must treat people so they feel secure, valued, and told the truth
- •He recounts approving an early bad investment and being screamed at by an investor, which shaped his approach
- •He describes a firmwide practice where everyone must voice negatives and risks about a proposed investment
- •He stresses criticism must be made impersonal and standardized so people don’t take it as a personal attack
- •He links this culture to low turnover and the importance of caring about these issues
Motivation over time: learning, creation, money, and staying fully engaged
Schwarzman describes an enduring drive to learn, process information, and create outcomes, alongside an early desire to make money. He explains why he finds the work inherently engaging and rejects the idea of retiring when life feels intellectually alive.
- •He uses a “telephone switchboard” metaphor for taking inputs, processing them, and producing outputs
- •He acknowledges wanting to make money early on and describes starting with limited funds after buying a ring
- •He says he seeks steep learning curves and consequential outcomes because they’re fascinating and fun
- •He describes work as “not about money” but about creation and feeling fully alive
- •He says the appeal of the work isn’t age-determined; it’s about staying engaged
Audience Q&A on hiring: interviewing beyond resumes and protecting culture
In response to a question about putting the right people in the right seats, Schwarzman explains how he evaluates candidates in conversation rather than relying on resumes. He emphasizes emotional stability, communication, niceness, and alignment with firm values.
- •He calls hiring “fun” and says the goal is matching capability with who a person really is
- •He treats resumes as a basic filter, then focuses on flexibility of mind and emotional stability under stress
- •He watches for signs like fear and considers how someone will perform in high-pressure situations
- •He says the firm won’t hire people who aren’t nice or who are political, even if they’re smart
- •He adds that after a certain age, reputation matters more; if multiple people report issues, he advises believing the pattern
Overcoming conservatism and building trust: explaining motives and delivering returns
An audience member asks why people resist working with a new entrant and how Blackstone overcame that resistance. Schwarzman argues most people dislike change and says adoption comes from comfort, trust, clear motives, and consistently doing well for investors.
- •He says outside certain environments, people generally don’t like change
- •He shares an example of renovating a well-known hotel and facing “don’t change it” backlash before eventual approval
- •He says introducing change requires going out of your way to make people comfortable
- •He argues investors trust you when they believe you care about them, won’t hurt them, and won’t introduce products you don’t fully believe in
- •He describes this accumulated trust as building brand equity
Closing question: what matters most—excellence and turning vision into reality
In the traditional closing question, Schwarzman says what matters most to him is excellence and executing a vision into reality. He describes the pleasure he gets from moments where everything “lines up” and performance is perfect.
- •He says excellence and realizing a vision—commercial or otherwise—matters most to him
- •He cites satisfaction from beautiful spaces, successful investments, and perfectly executed performance
- •He compares the desire for excellence to repeating an action that produces a pleasure response
- •He ends by reaffirming his attraction to scenarios where execution is “excellent, excellent”
