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Supplements I’m Taking, Training for Mental Performance, AI Tools, Recovering from Surgery, and More

Welcome back to another in-between-isode, with one of my favorite formats: the good old-fashioned Q&A. This episode is brought to you by: Eight Sleep Pod Cover 5 sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: EightSleep.com/Tim (use code TIM to get $350 off your very own Pod 5 Ultra.) Monarch Money track, budget, plan, and do more with your money: MonarchMoney.com/Tim (50% off your first year at monarchmoney.com with code TIM) Shopify global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business: https://shopify.com/tim (one-dollar-per-month trial period) Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 900 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Follow the Tim Ferriss Podcast: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss Blog: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tferriss/ Follow Tim Ferriss on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/ Like Tim Ferriss on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/ [00:00] Start [00:51] Coyote retail distribution challenges and data gathering. [04:02] Elbow surgery recovery: sequencing, decongestion, Marc Pro device, peptides, BFR training. [11:07] California vs. Austin for builders, mechanical engineers, and tech startups. [14:05] Using AI for medical advice workflow (and cross-referencing with professionals). [18:49] Current supplement regimen and PAGG/AGG status. [25:43] California vs. Texas considerations for aspiring parents. [26:40] Saying “No” to good things for “Hell, yes” moments. [28:24] Philanthropy lessons learned since starting Saisei Foundation. [31:41] Something I’ve changed my mind about recently: intermittent fasting. [36:53] Precious items from childhood I still keep: D&D relics and marine biology books. [37:12] Bucket list hike: Glacier National Park. [37:51] How the catalytic chaos of publishing The 4-Hour Chef led to launching this podcast. [40:03] Bringing delight vs. sixth-gear, high-performance focus. [43:25] Thoughts on extended human fasting research from the Soviet era. [47:32] Most magical New Mexico experience: Mountain Cloud Zen Center meditation retreat. [47:51] Meta skills for the AI era: Hyper-adaptability and world-class learning. [48:38] The (real and ideal) future of CØCKPUNCH/Legends of Varlata. [54:33] Competitive chess training enhancement: glucose management, intermittent fasting, MCT oil. [01:01:41] Behind-the-scenes projects: Fusion, algae feed additives, meat alternatives. [01:03:44] Countries I wish I had visited earlier, and places I’d still like to see. [01:06:20] “Not yet” vs. “No” in early growth phases. [01:09:37] Post Coyote, do I have any future games in the works? [01:10:17] Over-ear vs. in-ear headphones for podcasting. [01:10:52] What’s the uncrowded channel right now? [01:11:57] Recommendations for Dr. Mindy Pelz. [01:12:39] Robert Rodriguez and project juggling. [01:13:05] Fast neutron reactors and the Bugatti of ketones. [01:14:52] Extended family outings and Mahonk Mountain House. [01:16:20] NO BOOK meetup plans? [01:16:44] Parting thoughts.

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Sep 10, 20251h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 1:31

    Peak experiences, shifting out of “sixth gear,” and Q&A kickoff

    Tim opens by reflecting on how his most positive moments tend to be simple, engaging time with friends and family rather than constant high-output work. He frames the session as a rapid-fire Q&A drawn from submitted questions, then live ones.

    • •Peak emotional highs often come from connection and simple activities rather than productivity
    • •Many type-A people only know “sixth gear” or burnout, missing other sustainable modes
    • •Tim sets the format: work through submitted questions first, then live questions
  2. 1:31 – 4:02

    Coyote retail placement problem-solving: gather data before guessing

    Tim describes a current challenge with retail distribution and placement for Coyote, now in thousands of stores. He emphasizes starting with information gathering—photos of real shelf placement—before proposing solutions or attributing causes to sales performance differences.

    • •Sell-through varies by store/region; placement and packaging format may be factors
    • •Coyote is small and designed for hang-tag placement, which introduces new retail variables
    • •He crowdsources photos via a Discord community, the Exploding Kittens team, and playtest families
    • •Uses a scientific-method mindset: determine what’s measurable before debating causes
  3. 4:02 – 10:06

    Elbow surgery recovery: sequencing, decongestion, peptides, and BFR rehab

    Tim explains his lateral epicondylitis repair and the history behind the injury, then walks through his recovery approach. He prioritizes sequencing, decongestion work, and tools like the Marc Pro device, peptides, targeted supplementation, and blood flow restriction training—paired with strict attention to sleep and not doing too much too soon.

    • •Procedure described as a repair for lateral epicondylitis (tennis elbow) stemming from an old injury
    • •Sequencing is central: break healing into parts, pick high-leverage actions, and do them in order
    • •Early focus on decongestion: Marc Pro stimulation and lymphatic drainage massage
    • •Mentions use of peptides and collagen + vitamin C timed before rehab work
    • •Introduces BFR training as a way to maintain muscle and flush tissue with low load
    • •Highlights the main risk for him is overdoing rehab too early; sleep is non-negotiable
  4. 10:06 – 11:08

    Professional oversight and accountability in rehab

    Tim stresses he is following protocols with multiple physical therapists and maintaining expert oversight. He notes a surgeon follow-up and explains his preference for surgeons who understand an athlete mindset.

    • •He is not self-managing rehab alone; relies on PTs for structure and monitoring
    • •Accountability and third-party assessment are described as critical
    • •He had a follow-up with the surgeon, who has undergone the same surgery
    • •Tim prefers surgeons who are current/former athletes because they understand his tendencies
  5. 11:08 – 13:40

    California vs. Austin for builders and startups: density, talent, and “both/and” options

    Tim responds to a question about whether California or Austin is better for builders and startup momentum. He argues that for sophisticated AI work, San Francisco’s talent density is hard to beat, while Austin can work depending on what you're building—and the choice doesn't have to be permanent or exclusive.

    • •AI is described as a “resurrection” for Silicon Valley, increasing talent concentration in SF
    • •For venture-backed hiring, he suggests going where the talent density is highest
    • •Austin has strengths (including certain types of companies and big-company outposts) but it depends on the product
    • •Proposes a hybrid strategy: spend a short period in Silicon Valley as a learning/networking sprint, then bring it back
  6. 13:40 – 18:45

    AI-assisted medical research workflow: Consensus, LLM cross-checking, and expert review

    Tim outlines how he uses AI tools to do an initial pass on medical questions while emphasizing he cross-references and consults professionals. He describes using Consensus.app for literature-driven answers, comparing outputs across multiple LLMs, then sharing summarized findings with clinicians to get their feedback efficiently.

    • •He repeatedly emphasizes he’s not giving medical advice and consults professionals
    • •Uses Consensus.app to scan published literature and get a strength-of-evidence style readout
    • •Cross-references the same question across tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity
    • •Sends distilled paragraphs and tentative conclusions to busy experts to solicit targeted input
    • •Uses AI to sanity-check claims from companies offering products, including risk-factor weighting discussions
  7. 18:45 – 25:22

    Current supplement and medication stack: PAGG/AGG update and surgery-driven additions

    Tim answers what he’s currently taking, separating legacy items (AGG components) from a larger, surgery-influenced stack. He flags uncertainty around some items, repeatedly cautions against copying him, and explains his rationale for several choices related to family risk factors, recovery, sleep, and vision.

    • •Still uses the AGG components: alpha-lipoic acid, NAC, green tea extract, and garlic/allicin extract
    • •He questions the “P” (policosanol) as the item he might revisit if updating earlier work
    • •Mentions prescriptions aimed at family-pattern risks and biomarker management, plus famotidine interest
    • •Uses BPC-157 with uncertainty about oral availability; notes placebo may still matter to him
    • •Times collagen + vitamin C (often with whey) before rehab activity
    • •Uses THC + CBN at night for pain; explores interest in a sleep-medication class for potential dual benefits
    • •Takes fish oil and AREDS 2; notes zinc content and the need to avoid overdosing when stacking supplements
  8. 25:22 – 26:22

    Where to raise a family: nature access and not being tied to Texas or California

    Tim considers whether he’d raise children in California or Texas, and what might push him elsewhere. He emphasizes he’s open to many locations and highlights both policy considerations and access to immersive nature as important variables.

    • •He’s open to locations beyond Texas and California and not committed to either coast
    • •Questions how family-friendly Texas is from a political/legal/regulatory standpoint
    • •Notes Texas is largely privately owned, making immersive nature access harder
    • •Mentions interest in rural options with access to a decent airport
  9. 26:22 – 28:25

    Saying no to good opportunities to protect “hell yes” experiences

    Tim gives a recent example of declining a well-paid speaking engagement in Europe to spend a week off-grid in Montana learning outdoor survival skills with close friends. He points to his essay about accepting tradeoffs as part of designing a life with more meaning and recovery.

    • •He turned down a lucrative speaking invitation to prioritize an off-grid week with friends
    • •Describes the costs of being off-grid but says he’d make the trade repeatedly
    • •References his blog post “The Art of Letting Bad Things Happen” as a guiding philosophy
    • •Notes an unfinished “no” book draft as a repository for additional examples
  10. 28:25 – 31:28

    Building effective philanthropy: don’t wait, avoid guilt fuel, and separate feel-good vs impact

    Tim shares lessons from starting his foundation and what he’d tell his younger self. He argues for starting earlier, avoiding guilt as motivation, and applying for-profit-like rigor—while distinguishing between donations that feel good and those optimized for measurable impact.

    • •He would tell his younger self not to wait for large wealth before giving
    • •He cautions against guilt-driven philanthropy as poor long-term motivation
    • •Suggests treating philanthropy more like for-profit investing in terms of rigor and evaluation
    • •Recommends separate budgets for “feel-good” giving versus impact-driven bets
    • •Describes early-stage, stigmatized areas as offering more room to do meaningful work with less money
  11. 31:28 – 36:34

    Changing his mind on intermittent fasting: muscle concerns, protein logistics, and tracked results

    Tim explains he used to be skeptical of intermittent fasting due to reports of lean mass loss, but changed his view after seeing improvements in his own blood work and performance metrics. He describes how he fits protein into a restricted eating window and challenges the notion that protein absorption caps at a low amount per meal.

    • •He was initially skeptical due to observed lean-mass loss patterns reported by DEXA facility owners
    • •After strict ketogenic dieting and then intermittent fasting, he reports his best blood work in years plus performance improvements
    • •Says resistance training is essential for making intermittent fasting work well
    • •Disputes the repeated claim that you can’t absorb more than ~30g protein per sitting
    • •Describes his routine: two larger meals in an ~8-hour window plus protein shakes when needed
    • •Tracks outcomes via weight, body composition, and strength as proxies
  12. 36:34 – 40:06

    Keepsakes, hikes, and a creative turning point: how The 4-Hour Chef led to the podcast

    Tim answers lighter personal questions—items he’s kept since childhood and hiking ambitions—then describes a pivotal professional setback. He explains how disappointing performance of The 4-Hour Chef (and the associated boycott dynamics) pushed him to experiment with podcasts, which became a long-running project.

    • •He still keeps childhood Dungeons & Dragons materials and marine biology books
    • •Mentions doing multiple multi-day hikes yearly; Glacier National Park is high on his list
    • •Describes The 4-Hour Chef underperforming relative to expectations as a “disaster” that became catalytic
    • •Says discovering podcasts as an undervalued growth channel during the book launch helped spark his show
    • •He initially committed to a limited test run of episodes, which ultimately expanded into a decade-plus run
  13. 40:06 – 43:09

    Delight vs relentless performance: fun, recovery, and perspective on legacy

    Tim contrasts his high-performance reputation with the joy of creating a simple game that makes families laugh together. He argues that taking work and legacy too seriously can be counterproductive, and that fun is an important form of recovery that supports doing the “serious stuff” well.

    • •He finds it meaningful to deliver affordable, screen-free delight through a short game
    • •Questions the long-run significance of conventional productivity and legacy anxieties
    • •Says past-year reviews often reveal the best moments are simple social experiences
    • •Reframes burnout as a sign of being stuck in only “sixth gear” or “park,” missing other gears
    • •Emphasizes recovery; positions fun as a powerful recovery mechanism
  14. 43:09 – 47:13

    Old ideas that may matter again: extended fasting research, incentives, and “subtractive” medicine

    Responding to a question about neglected past ideas, Tim discusses historical human fasting research and why modern constraints make it hard to study. He argues that fasting and related approaches are underexplored partly because incentives favor adding treatments, and he mentions interest in supporting more rigorous work in this area.

    • •He has read old research on extended human fasting and finds the gap in modern studies notable
    • •Says ethical/approval hurdles make extended fasting trials difficult in the US
    • •Mentions a write-up describing Soviet-era fasting of patients for long durations, while noting proposed mechanisms were sometimes wrong
    • •Critiques incentives in medicine and markets that favor adding recurring treatments over subtractive approaches
    • •Raises alternatives that overlap with fasting effects: fast-mimicking diets, ketogenic approaches, and other interventions
  15. 47:13 – 1:17:21

    New Mexico retreat, AI-era meta skills, creative world-building, and rapid-fire closing Q&A

    Tim shares a highlight from New Mexico, then answers a broad set of questions: what skills matter most in an AI-shaped future, where he’s taking his CØCKPUNCH/Legends of Varlata project, how he’d approach chess as a mental sport, what behind-the-scenes climate/energy projects interest him, travel preferences, and assorted tactical questions. He closes with thoughts on “not yet” versus “no,” focusing on Coyote before new games, and practical preferences for podcast gear and channels.

    • •Calls a Zen meditation retreat at Mountain Cloud Zen Center in Santa Fe a magical experience
    • •Names hyper-adaptability and world-class learning as key AI-era meta skills, given rapid change
    • •Discusses CØCKPUNCH/Varlata: NFT uncertainty, but a clear vision and desire to build an AI-made trailer as proof of concept
    • •On competitive chess: start by identifying failure modes; prioritizes stable glucose management and discusses various fueling and experimentation avenues
    • •Mentions behind-the-scenes interests: fusion, nuclear options, emissions reduction via algae feed additives, and meat alternatives
    • •Travel: expresses affection for Taiwan and mentions other countries he’d like to visit
    • •Says early-stage growth can favor “not yet” over “no,” but focus becomes crucial once direction is clearer
    • •Not planning another game yet; wants to fully execute on Coyote first
    • •Prefers over-ear wired headphones for reliability; suggests in-person remains an “uncrowded channel” and considers older platforms like email and others

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