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What Now? With Trevor NoahGabriel “Fluffy” Iglesias and the Art of Mentoring | What Now? with Trevor Noah Podcast
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Home Robberies and Stolen Crocs
Trevor and Gabriel open by swapping stories about their homes being broken into. Gabriel explains he sold his house because he wasn't spending enough time in it, and Trevor recalls a friend joking about the Crocs the thieves left behind.
- •Gabriel sold his house after a break-in and has no actual residence now
- •Trevor calls himself a nomad
- •Trevor's house was robbed and the thieves left his Crocs
- •Light banter sets the tone before the interview
Introducing the Themes: Mentorship and Business Acumen
Trevor introduces Gabriel and says he wants to discuss mentorship and business acumen, which few people have asked Gabriel about. Gabriel jokes about his high school education and the word "acumen."
- •Trevor wants to cover comedy, mentorship and business acumen
- •Gabriel jokes that he has only a high school education
- •The two banter over the pronunciation of "acumen"
How Gabriel and Trevor Met
Gabriel recounts seeing Trevor on The Tonight Show and going to his Irvine Improv show. Trevor tells his side, including the invitation to join Gabriel on the road and exposing him to audiences he'd never have reached.
- •Gabriel saw Trevor on The Tonight Show and went to his Irvine show
- •Trevor didn't know who Gabriel was at first and thought of Julio Iglesias
- •Gabriel offered Trevor a spot on the road, explicitly not as an opening act
- •Trevor describes Gabriel's kind, Godfather-like presence
Building a Fan Base Through Treating Audiences Well
Trevor asks how Gabriel built fans rather than just audiences. Gabriel says it wasn't a plan: he thanked people, encouraged word of mouth, and stayed approachable. Trevor adds a theory about performers who step into themselves versus those who hide behind a persona.
- •Gabriel says there was no master plan; he was grateful people came
- •He asks audiences to share the show and makes himself approachable after shows
- •Welcoming the audience is a small gesture many artists skip
- •Trevor describes performers hiding behind personas as a form of protection
Growing Up Unaccepted and Letting Go of Small Thinking
Gabriel describes being an overweight kid with few friends who saw laughter as acceptance. He values childhood friends who keep him grounded, and says what he'd leave behind is small thinking, while noting that a bigger circle is harder to control.
- •Gabriel was overweight, had acne and bad teeth, and wasn't picked for teams
- •He saw laughter as acceptance while watching Eddie Murphy and SNL
- •Childhood friends are honest with him and keep him grounded
- •He wants to leave behind small thinking, though a big career circle is hard to manage
Turning Personal Flaws Into Comedy and Staying Grounded
Trevor asks when Gabriel turned what ostracized him into a connecting tool. Gabriel says it began about four years in with a personal bit on Premium Blend, and he talks about not letting the business change him, including his early spending on two Hummers.
- •His early act was characters and impressions, not personal material
- •A Premium Blend bit about dancing with big girls was his first personal joke
- •People relate to someone who doesn't pretend to be perfect
- •When the money quadrupled he bought two Hummers while living in an apartment
Mentorship on the Road: The "Na Mean" Encore
Trevor recalls the diverse tour bus and the creative freedom Gabriel gave him, then tells the story of Gabriel insisting he go back out and perform his "Na Mean" joke. Gabriel explains he builds a full show with varied comics.
- •The tour bus had diverse political views and lively debates
- •Gabriel never told Trevor to avoid topics on stage
- •Gabriel pushed Trevor to give the audience the joke they hadn't heard
- •Trevor got a standing ovation for an unprecedented opening-act encore
- •Gabriel designs the whole fan experience and had many comics on the bill
Why Gabriel Embraces Different Comics and Regrets Martine
Trevor asks why Gabriel risks his audience by featuring comics with different views. Gabriel says it isn't much of a risk, admits that acting on complaints about Martine left him feeling terrible, and explains why he wants comics who push him to perform better.
- •Gabriel received emails complaining about other comics
- •He regrets how things went with Martine and wishes he'd talked to him himself
- •He doesn't want everyone to think like him
- •A strong opening act elevates his own game as a headliner
Favorite Road Memories: Lexington and the El Paso Border
Trevor shares favorite memories from touring with Gabriel, starting with a woman in Lexington, Kentucky. He then tells the story of walking toward a Foot Locker in El Paso and ending up at the Mexican border without a passport, saved when the agent recognized him as being with Fluffy.
- •A woman in Lexington complimented Trevor as the funniest and handsomest she'd seen
- •Trevor followed Google Maps to a Foot Locker and ended up at the Mexican border
- •He had no passport and begged the agent for 15 minutes
- •Googling himself and showing the Fluffy connection got him sent back
The Cake Table and the Penis Cake
Trevor and Gabriel reminisce about fans bringing cakes to every show, including a giant penis-shaped cake that nobody wanted to eat. Trevor became the de facto cake taster and says it was among the best cakes he's had.
- •Fans brought 12 to 14 cakes to each show after Gabriel mentioned loving cake
- •Trevor, from South Africa, was amazed at the constant cake
- •A giant penis-shaped cake went untouched until Trevor dug in
- •The bit turns into a running joke about where to start eating
Fans Upset About Weight Loss
Trevor brings up that some fans were angry when Gabriel started boxing and losing weight. Gabriel says he values opinions, but at almost 50 he must prioritize his health, even if it costs him fans who only want him to stay Fluffy.
- •Some fans were upset that losing weight went against the "fluffy" identity
- •Gabriel says he is no longer a 20-year-old who can be 440 pounds
- •He accepts losing fans who won't support his health
- •Trevor relates this to balancing how people see you with how you wish to grow
Ozempic, Mounjaro and Food as Comfort
Trevor asks about Ozempic. Gabriel says the company once approached him to be a spokesperson, that he lost 15 pounds in two weeks on it, and that he now takes Mounjaro and wears a glucose monitor. The talk turns to food as comfort and Gabriel's love of plain cheese quesadillas from his mom.
- •Ozempic approached Gabriel as a spokesperson but his team declined over time commitment
- •He lost 15 pounds in two weeks on Ozempic and now uses Mounjaro
- •He wears a continuous glucose monitor
- •Quesadillas remind him of his mother and feel safe
Seeing Everyone: Merch Sizes and What Now
Trevor recalls Gabriel teaching him to stock extra-large merch sizes so everyone feels seen. He then asks his closing question, and Gabriel says it's time to focus on his weight, health and relationships, recalling losing 75 pounds during COVID and regaining 50.
- •Gabriel told Trevor to stock double and triple XL shirts
- •Gabriel says he has achieved every career goal he set
- •He feels he has failed himself on health and relationships
- •He lost 75 pounds during COVID and regained 50 after returning to tour
- •He says it's okay to take a break from the road and wants to be accountable publicly
