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Intro
- TNTrevor Noah
[upbeat music]
- 0:00 – 3:47
Commutes, Drones, and Comedians' Three Stages
- TNTrevor Noah
Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of What Now? with Trevor Noah. On today's episode, I sit down with comedian and international movie star, the one and only Kevin Hart. And I'll let you know now, I always have fun conversations with Kevin Hart, but this conversation may have been one of my favorites, I think. We get into comedy, life, and everything that makes Kevin Hart who he is in some really interesting ways. I really had a great time chatting to him, and so, uh, I think you'll enjoy the conversation too. [upbeat music] This is What Now? With Trevor Noah [upbeat music] .
- KHKevin Hart
He changed my fucking cups too [laughing] . He comes in here with his people, he takes all my shit. Huh? That's sweet, that is. Give me a hug, man. How you doing, big dog? Look at him. Look at him. Fucked up my backdrop. What happened to our stuff?
- TNTrevor Noah
Ugh. Sit down, Kev.
- KHKevin Hart
We've got it, but sure. Sit down. That's nicer. Hi, Mary. How are you? Oh, my God. All right. I've got you. I'm ready, Trev.
- TNTrevor Noah
Is this how you dress every day?
- KHKevin Hart
This? Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah. How far do you live from here?
- KHKevin Hart
I don't wanna talk about it. [laughs] I don't wanna talk about it. They make me drive so far, 'cause I do it 'cause I sacrifice for my team. I'm in Calabasas, so it takes me an hour and 15-
- TNTrevor Noah
You come in every day?
- KHKevin Hart
I come in ... When I'm here, do I come in every day? Yeah. So an hour and-
- TNTrevor Noah
So it's an hour 15 to come in
- KHKevin Hart
... hour ... Like, 'cause I'm leaving during traffic time, but if I wait, then it's, like, a 35-minute ride. No traffic, 35 minutes.
- TNTrevor Noah
That's terrible. Are you gonna get a drone?
- KHKevin Hart
A drone?
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- KHKevin Hart
Why would, why am I getting a drone?
- TNTrevor Noah
You haven't seen the drones that are coming out?
- KHKevin Hart
That you can fly inside?
- TNTrevor Noah
They'll be coming out in a few years. There'll be little drones that you can fly in.
- KHKevin Hart
Why do I wanna fly in a drone? What am I-
- TNTrevor Noah
You don't wanna be in traffic, Kev. [laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
Why can't I just ... [laughs] Oh, wait, you talking ... Like, the drones are just like-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, like [imitates drone] and then you fly-
- KHKevin Hart
And you can just go above traffic
- TNTrevor Noah
... yeah, man. I ... You're gonna, you're gonna be in a drone. I can see you.
- KHKevin Hart
Now, I'm not gonna lie to you-
- TNTrevor Noah
I promise you right now, you're gonna be in a drone
- KHKevin Hart
... if you're telling me that it's not gonna fuck up my clothes-
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
... and I can get in a drone, I'll do it. If you're telling me I can, I can get in a drone-
- 3:47 – 7:59
Arenas vs. Theaters and Kevin's Envy of Peers
- TNTrevor Noah
I remember talking to Dave years ago. There's a time when Dave Chappelle, for those listening, um, Dave never used to want to do arenas.
- KHKevin Hart
I did it.
- TNTrevor Noah
And then he, and then he ... I mean, obviously everyone wants to see him, so now he has to, he has to do bigger venues.
- KHKevin Hart
No, I, I did-
- TNTrevor Noah
But you, you, you, you definitely lose something.
- KHKevin Hart
I, I sparked, I sparked the arena bug, and I'm coming-
- TNTrevor Noah
Wait, you d- you, you did that?
- KHKevin Hart
With Dave? Absolutely. I sparked it with Dave and Chris, right? I said-
- TNTrevor Noah
So I, I blame you-
- KHKevin Hart
For Dave doing arenas
- TNTrevor Noah
... is what you're saying. Yeah.
- KHKevin Hart
And, and Dave not only-
- TNTrevor Noah
Do you prefer arenas? [laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
I gotta be honest with you, Trev. I gotta be honest with you, man. I do. But let me-
- TNTrevor Noah
Wait, what?
- KHKevin Hart
Let me tell you, let me tell you why. Hear me out.
- TNTrevor Noah
Go.
- KHKevin Hart
Hear me out why, and I bet-
- TNTrevor Noah
Go
- KHKevin Hart
... when I say this, you go-
- TNTrevor Noah
Go
- KHKevin Hart
... you agree.
- TNTrevor Noah
Go.
- KHKevin Hart
And here's how I got Dave, this is how I got Dave bitten-
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm
- KHKevin Hart
... with the bug. I said, "Listen to me, Dave. The beauty of doing the arenas when you're a good comic-
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay
- KHKevin Hart
... is turning the arenas into a intimate environment."
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay.
- KHKevin Hart
You can turn it into-
- 7:59 – 15:57
The Protest Bit and Being Sucked In by Vanity
- TNTrevor Noah
I, my favorite political bit of yours, and I know it, it wouldn't be considered political, but I think it was way more political than anyone would ever think, is the bit where you were talking about being sucked into a Black Lives Matter protest.
- KHKevin Hart
Oh, my God. Black man in the middle with a bullhorn going off. "Black lives matter. And if you don't think they matter, then you're a part of the problem. And today we find a solution. The solution is death. Every Black person that showed up here today is willing to die. We will all die today. We don't give a fuck about life. If you Black and you here, it's 'cause you came to die. If you Black and you in this circle around me, it's 'cause you ready to die first." I look down, I'm in the fucking circle. I said, "Wait a minute."
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
"That's not why I came. I didn't come for that. That's not why I'm here."
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
That, can I tell you something?
- KHKevin Hart
It's a true story.
- TNTrevor Noah
That ... Yeah, but what I loved about that bit was, whether it was intentional or not, it told a very true story about how so many people get sucked into the allure of-
- KHKevin Hart
Yes
- TNTrevor Noah
... appearing to be-
- KHKevin Hart
Yes
- TNTrevor Noah
... what they're not. And now you just, that speech that you-
- KHKevin Hart
You're in it
- TNTrevor Noah
... that speech that you gave [laughs] .
- KHKevin Hart
You're in it.
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs] I don't even remember. I just remember trying to, trying to repeat it to my friends.
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
It, it ain't go- what did you say? It ain't, it ain't go-
- KHKevin Hart
You already know what it is.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
Now I gotta give a speech. You ever say something, and while you're saying something you realize you're not saying nothing, but you gotta keep trying to say something even though you know it's nothing?
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
That was my fucking speech. This is my speech word for word. Verbatim, this is my speech.
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
"All right."
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
"Y'all already know what it is. And what it is is what it's gonna be."
- SPSpeaker
[laughs]
- 15:57 – 23:46
Cameo Grind: Fearless Auditions and the Road to Leading Roles
- TNTrevor Noah
what do you think changed in your life? I, I could be completely wrong. I'm taking a shot here.
- KHKevin Hart
Okay.
- TNTrevor Noah
Every, every artist has a moment in their lives where something happens, something shifts, and you see that shift apparent in their work. There is no denying that you came out with two of, I would say, the seminal specials when you first, when you first came out, right?
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
Was, was Laugh at My Pain, Little Grown Man.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
I mean, they were, they were... You remember. We all know what they were like. In comedy, we all know what those specials are like. There are specials where you can go like, "That, that was it. That's a timestamp." That, that right there, you can't... Kevin Hart becomes a movie star. You kill it in everything. I mean, I remember in 40-Old Virgin, you, you were honestly I think one of the top cameo performers pound for pound-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm
- TNTrevor Noah
... I've ever seen.
- KHKevin Hart
It was, it was a real similar-
- TNTrevor Noah
You would step into a movie, and everybody in the theater would be killing themselves, and nobody would know your name.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
Nobody would know who that guy was. They would just go, "I love..." Every time I tell people movies you've been in, they'll be like, "He was in that?"
- KHKevin Hart
Along Came Polly.
- TNTrevor Noah
And then I go, "That scene."
- KHKevin Hart
Along Came Polly.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah. And then they go, they go, "Oh, that was... Oh, shit, I remember."
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
"Oh, I didn't even know."
- KHKevin Hart
Uh-huh.
- TNTrevor Noah
And I, I wanna, I w-
- KHKevin Hart
Cameo man
- TNTrevor Noah
... I wanna... So in a weird way, I sometimes think some people feel like you were this immediate overnight success, because in a strange way, they didn't remember all of these characters you were playing in all of these movies. Do, do you get what I'm saying?
- KHKevin Hart
I mean, I, not only do I get it-
- TNTrevor Noah
'Cause it, 'cause it did, it did seem like all of a sudden you were just the face of a franchise-
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... and the face of a movie. But I go, like, Kevin Hart was grinding away-
- KHKevin Hart
No, I was-
- TNTrevor Noah
... in three-minute segments in different people's movies
- KHKevin Hart
... I was number seven and 10 on a call sheet for years. For years.
- 23:46 – 29:57
Preserving Success and the Fear Behind the Stomach Bubbles
- TNTrevor Noah
So y- you have these seminal moments in your stand-up, and then I feel like, could be completely wrong, and don't be offended when I say this, but I feel like there's moments in between in your stand-up where it almost felt like Kevin Hart was preserving Kevin Hart more than Kevin Hart was just being and doing Kevin Hart.
- KHKevin Hart
Oh, my God, absolutely.
- TNTrevor Noah
And, and, and I say this as a comedian who's experienced it.
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah, that's not-
- TNTrevor Noah
I say that like-
- KHKevin Hart
... that's not offensive at all. That's truth
- TNTrevor Noah
... so every comedian starts off in what I argue is the best place.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
You have nothing.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
You get on stage. The only thing you have is your comedy, and the only thing you receive is a laugh You don't even get money.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
People, people don't realize. In the clubs, we were getting $5, $10. Pookie still owes me $15.
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah, you gotta get it.
- TNTrevor Noah
Do you know... That, it'll never happen.
- KHKevin Hart
You gotta get it.
- TNTrevor Noah
I've accepted this, Kevin. I've accepted this.
- KHKevin Hart
You gotta get it, bro.
- TNTrevor Noah
So-
- KHKevin Hart
I'ma get mine.
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs] So you, y- y- that's all you're getting, is the laugh and the confirmation of a joke working or not.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
That's it.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
Something clicks. You start to become successful. Now there's a moment where on this bell curve you have nothing, you reach the peak, and now it feels like you have everything. You don't have everything-
- KHKevin Hart
[laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
... but it feels like you have everything-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm
- TNTrevor Noah
... 'cause it's more than what you had.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- 29:57 – 36:22
What Changed: Ownership, the Accident, and Fear of the Bottom
- TNTrevor Noah
What changed?
- KHKevin Hart
What changed for me was I got to a place of not just success, but understanding. So my understanding now is, yo, I built a fan base. I built a global fan base of people that no matter what show up- Because they go, "I like that guy." And in that-
- TNTrevor Noah
But how did you develop the understanding?
- KHKevin Hart
Th- the understanding comes where the noise from the outside, you realize is not noise. The things, the things that you think-
- TNTrevor Noah
Can I, can I throw something at you?
- KHKevin Hart
Go ahead.
- TNTrevor Noah
I could be wildly wrong. I noticed the shift, or I noticed the shift happening most apparently after the car accident.
- KHKevin Hart
That was a, that was a, that was a different shift. Shift number one came with the understanding of I wanna be a brand.
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm.
- KHKevin Hart
I wanna be a global brand. I wanna own my brand so that my worry attached to the craft goes away because I control it. So once I saw that the idea of control is something that I could dictate if I owned it, and I did that, and I was like, "It's kinda like dope."
- TNTrevor Noah
You think that changed your level of fear?
- KHKevin Hart
1,000%, 'cause I control it. So I'm using stand-up to set up the movie. The movie-
- TNTrevor Noah
I don't know.
- KHKevin Hart
Listen, listen.
- TNTrevor Noah
I don't know.
- KHKevin Hart
Listen to me.
- TNTrevor Noah
I hear you, but I, I don't know.
- KHKevin Hart
Trevor-
- TNTrevor Noah
'Cause I, 'cause I feel like you had that drive before. I disagree.
- KHKevin Hart
No, the drive-
- TNTrevor Noah
I disagree
- KHKevin Hart
... listen, drive is drive, right?
- TNTrevor Noah
I don't, I don't, I don't... Yeah, but, but what I'm saying, what I'm challenging you on is this, is, like, and I say this as an observer and as a fan of yours. I think there's something you might take for granted, 'cause don't get me wrong, there's Kevin Hart the businessman, and you, you, you're very apt at doing that. But sometimes, like, as Kevin Hart the human being, you, like, you have moments where, and not to get too deep, but you have moments where, you know, because of how you grew up, because of your family unit, because of, you know, what it was like growing up with your dad as an addict, because it was like seeing your mom in her grind and everything, I think there are moments where you forget how much you push and drive because of the fear of losing all of the things that have helped you and your family to get to where you've gotten to.
- KHKevin Hart
The fear, the fear is what motivates-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- KHKevin Hart
... the complete sentences behind the drive. In other words, like-
- TNTrevor Noah
But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is that fear has slipped, and something happened, and it cannot come from... I do not believe that the drive can be the reason for the drive. I believe, and I, I could be wrong, but I will fight you on this.
- KHKevin Hart
Okay.
- TNTrevor Noah
There's something that comes. There is, there is... You know, you know when human beings are injured, Kev, there's something that happens. I remember talking to, um, an amazing woman who's a, a disability advocate. And she, she was one of the people who led the revolution in America on just getting, like, wheelchair access into venues, things that you don't think were, were, like, you think of today as common.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- 36:22 – 41:09
Kevin's Scaffolding: Owning Buildings, Brands, and Security
- KHKevin Hart
you fall-
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay. You need to go to therapy, Kev
- KHKevin Hart
... or if you, if you attempt a fall-
- TNTrevor Noah
You need to go, you need to go to therapy
- KHKevin Hart
... no, I'm not going to therapy.
- TNTrevor Noah
You need to go to therapy.
- KHKevin Hart
No, and you just used the therapy word on me.
- TNTrevor Noah
You need to go to therapy.
- KHKevin Hart
Listen, here, here's where-
- TNTrevor Noah
I see who you are. You're a scaffolding brother.
- KHKevin Hart
Listen, here's where-
- TNTrevor Noah
I know you very well
- KHKevin Hart
... here's where you have to think. Here's where you have to go with think, right?
- TNTrevor Noah
Man, everything Kevin Hart's about to say, I advise every listener to, to... I mean, listen to, but don't-
- KHKevin Hart
Listen to
- TNTrevor Noah
... don't follow it.
- KHKevin Hart
All right.
- TNTrevor Noah
Don't follow it.
- KHKevin Hart
Okay.
- TNTrevor Noah
It works, but it is-
- KHKevin Hart
Trevor is saying-
- TNTrevor Noah
... it's not a permanent solution
- KHKevin Hart
... what Trevor is saying, Trevor is saying, "Hey, some people fall and they go, 'I'm not gonna use my hands to break this fall.'"
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs] No, that's not what I'm saying.
- KHKevin Hart
Wait, let me finish. Some people, some people go-
- TNTrevor Noah
Tell people, tell people about the scaffolding that you're gonna... Tell them about this. Tell them what you-
- KHKevin Hart
Some people go, "I'm gonna fall on my face."
- TNTrevor Noah
I'll, I'll even say it to you, and you tell me if I'm right about-
- KHKevin Hart
No
- TNTrevor Noah
... what you're about to say.
- 41:09 – 45:09
Trevor's Half-Empty Arena in Springfield
- TNTrevor Noah
Have you, have you ever done a half-empty arena, by the way?
- KHKevin Hart
No.
- TNTrevor Noah
I've done one.
- KHKevin Hart
No.
- TNTrevor Noah
And can I tell you-
- KHKevin Hart
Now I shouldn't have said it that fast. That sounded really, that sounded really asshole.
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh, no.
- KHKevin Hart
Absolutely not.
- TNTrevor Noah
That's fine. That's fine.
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah, I know, but let-
- TNTrevor Noah
I've done, I've done one-
- KHKevin Hart
... let me take, ask me that question again.
- TNTrevor Noah
Kev, have you ever done an empty arena, a half-empty arena?
- KHKevin Hart
Have I ever done... Let me think. Have I done an empty arena?
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
Um, I don't know, Trevor. I don't know if I have. I would have to think about it. I mean, I'm quite sure there's probably been some.
- TNTrevor Noah
We're gonna go with the first take.
- KHKevin Hart
[laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
I like that better. Um, so I've, I've done, I've done one before. This was in Springfield, Missouri. It was really the only venue that we could go to. Deep Republican, um, like, little, you know, enclave. And my team said, "This is it. We, we don't know the promo- You've never been. We don't even know what's gonna happen here."
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
"We don't even know if you have fans in this place. Let's see what happens." I said, "Well, let's, let's go." We went there. I think the arena, this is, like, a cut-down arena. Could... I think it could... The capacity was 6,000 people maybe.
- KHKevin Hart
Okay, 5, 6.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, I think we sold 3- or 4,000 tickets.
- KHKevin Hart
Okay.
- TNTrevor Noah
Everybody, when I walked in, everybody looked like we were at a funeral. Not the audience.
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
I mean everyone backstage.
- KHKevin Hart
No, on your team. Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
You know when the promoter can't look at you?
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah.
- 45:09 – 50:20
Scaffolding Explained and Kevin's Fumbled Early Years
- TNTrevor Noah
What I mean by a scaffolding, a scaffolding brother is there are two ways, or there are multiple ways, but I think two of the, of the, of the, of the prominent ways for us to deal with the idea of having less or going backwards or, or diminishing in life or whatever it might be. The one way is to build scaffolding in our lives, and what that scaffolding is, is we go, "Okay, if as Kevin Hart I'm not a movie star, oh, okay, what do I have? If as Kevin Hart I'm not a comedian selling out, what do I have? Okay, so let me diversify. I'm gonna build up these companies. I'm gonna build up these institutions. I'm gonna own that. I'm gonna own this. I'm gonna own this. I'm gonna own that. I'm gonna own that. I'm gonna own... That way, I'm in a situation where my eggs are not in one basket, and that means that if in one space I am, you know, unceremoniously kicked out, I still have everything else that I can go back to."
- KHKevin Hart
Mm.
- TNTrevor Noah
"I have basically created the scaffolding."
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
You know, that's, that's why they use scaffolding in construction, so that they don't go backwards from that p... It's like, "All right. Let's build around-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm
- TNTrevor Noah
... this thing-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm
- TNTrevor Noah
... to at least enable it to get to a certain place-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm
- TNTrevor Noah
... and then we can sort of move back." But, but it, it, it holds everything where it needs to be-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm
- TNTrevor Noah
... while it is being built up. Right?
- KHKevin Hart
I, I think that's a great breakdown.
- TNTrevor Noah
Y- right. And I would encourage you to try it a little bit more. I know it's hard, don't get me wrong, 'cause you're Kevin Hart and you, you have this mountain that you've built. But I would encourage you as Kevin Hart to also realize beyond the brands, beyond the buildings, beyond all of those things, and I would even speak on behalf of, of your kids, I think you take for granted that the buildings may not have as much of an impact on your kids as the building that you've done with them.
- KHKevin Hart
I, I would say you're probably correct. It's not until-
- TNTrevor Noah
Not probably.
- KHKevin Hart
Well, yeah, here's where you probably are correct, right?
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh, you said probably again.
- KHKevin Hart
Well, I'ma tell you why.
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
I'ma tell you why, all right? So, the idea of follow through early on, it presented itself and I never took it serious, right? Uh, school, I fucked it off. High school, SATs, fucked it off.
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm.
- KHKevin Hart
Didn't take it serious. Abacadaba the whole way down. I'm going to great adventure to go be with my friends. You know, applying to college, trying to get into college. For what? Like, everybody, are y'all doing it? Fucked it off. Community college, two weeks. I'm out of here. This ain't for me. Sneaker store, I guess this what it's gonna be. Everything-
- TNTrevor Noah
'Cause you worked at... Where w- did you work at Foot Locker? Where did you work?
- KHKevin Hart
City Sports. City Sports Foot Locker.
- TNTrevor Noah
City Sports. Okay.
- KHKevin Hart
City Sports.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- KHKevin Hart
Everything that was positioned in front of me for me to take serious-
- 50:20 – 55:34
His Mother's Lessons and Forgiving His Father
- TNTrevor Noah
When did you, when did you first, first start realizing how right your mom was in life?
- KHKevin Hart
When you realize how much you fucked off. [laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
When you, when you look up and all your friends moving on and going away-
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh, man
- KHKevin Hart
... to college. They got scholarships. And you saying, "When did y'all apply? When did y'all apply to do that?" Kev, you didn't apply.
- TNTrevor Noah
Damn.
- KHKevin Hart
And now you realize you're the ignorant child.
- TNTrevor Noah
Damn.
- KHKevin Hart
You're realizing you're the dumb child.
- TNTrevor Noah
Do you feel like you got to the place where you got to reward your mo- your mother for the investment that she made in you? 'Cause I, 'cause I know how hard it was, you know, for you losing her.
- KHKevin Hart
Absolutely not.
- TNTrevor Noah
You, you, you didn't feel like in your-
- KHKevin Hart
No
- TNTrevor Noah
... lifetime you ... No.
- KHKevin Hart
No.
- TNTrevor Noah
You don't think she was ... Like, 'cause she, just as you were rising-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm. Fool's Gold, I wanna say this was, like, my-
- TNTrevor Noah
Were you in Australia? Where were you shooting this?
- KHKevin Hart
I was in Australia-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- KHKevin Hart
... but I'm just trying to think of where this movie ... You know, this was, this was basically, like, you know, a big role for me-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- KHKevin Hart
... 'cause I was number three or four on the call sheet.
- TNTrevor Noah
It was, like, Matthew McConaughey or something, right? Yeah.
- KHKevin Hart
Matthew McConaughey, Kate Hudson.
- TNTrevor Noah
Uh-huh.
- KHKevin Hart
And this is a big role, so I went away to Australia. But this is, like, one of my, like, big roles.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah. And your mom was sick at the time.
- KHKevin Hart
She was sick at the time. So she didn't get to ... Like, the world of benefits came way after-
- 55:34 – 59:01
Family, Uncle Duties, and Building a Fallback
- KHKevin Hart
My, my brother and my dad's relationship was a little rougher. They figured their shit out. My brother is, pound for pound, the best thing that ever happened to my kids. My brother has taken the role, if I have to go, he comes.
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- KHKevin Hart
I gotta go on the road, my brother comes to the house. I gotta go do movie or promo or whatever, my brother's out there. The feeling of love is never a void-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- KHKevin Hart
... or never a missed opportunity. He have four kids. Four kids that all stand on, "Oh yeah, when Dad's not here, Uncle come out and Uncle helps us do this and that."
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- KHKevin Hart
My brother is the, "Hey man, let me show y'all how to fly a kite. Let me show you, you never threw a boomerang? Y'all never seen these old movies, Rascals?"
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
"Kevin, you ain't show 'em Rascals?"
- TNTrevor Noah
That's funny.
- KHKevin Hart
Or Little Giants.
- TNTrevor Noah
You, you, you-
- KHKevin Hart
All the shit you don't think about
- TNTrevor Noah
... you maintain the village, man.
- KHKevin Hart
You don't-
- TNTrevor Noah
It's the village
- KHKevin Hart
... all the shit that you overlook-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- KHKevin Hart
... if you got a partner-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- KHKevin Hart
... you got a partner in crime that really understands you and has your best interests-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- KHKevin Hart
... where I'm coming in, and Dad is the cool dad that loves us and wants to do all the cool stuff, the dope activities. We watch movies, we chill, but Uncle, well, Uncle got the activity game on lock.
- TNTrevor Noah
I love this for you, man.
- KHKevin Hart
"Dad, Uncle, you know, Uncle showed me how to throw a strike." "You can't throw no strike. Let me see it. Throw it. I bet I knock that ball out the park."
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
"No you not." And my brother throw the strike. "I beat the shit out that ball."
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh, man.
- KHKevin Hart
Bow! My kids like, "Dad!" "That's right. You know why I did that? 'Cause your uncle ain't shit."
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- 59:01 – 1:03:57
Bill Cosby in Montreal and Loving the Craft
- KHKevin Hart
I gotta say this, and you talked about it, 'cause you touched on it a little bit. When you talk about the fear as a comic-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- KHKevin Hart
... right? Let's, like, of course take all his personal shit out of it, Bill Cosby, for a second. I was in Montreal-
- TNTrevor Noah
Did you just, did you just throw Bill Cosby in the end of a, in the end of a sentence?
- KHKevin Hart
Well, you'll see why. Uh, Bill Cosby-
- TNTrevor Noah
You can't... Okay.
- KHKevin Hart
I can.
- TNTrevor Noah
But can I just say-
- KHKevin Hart
I said put it aside.
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay. So, so-
- KHKevin Hart
I said that
- TNTrevor Noah
... but let me explain something.
- KHKevin Hart
But I preface that.
- TNTrevor Noah
Let me ex- explain something right now. You cannot, you cannot just say at the end of a sentence-
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah, Bill Cosby
- TNTrevor Noah
... you cannot go like, "You know, let's, let's throw all the personal shit aside. We're gonna-"
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... Bill Cosby.
- KHKevin Hart
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
So anyway-
- KHKevin Hart
Okay
- TNTrevor Noah
... you, you have to w- like-
- KHKevin Hart
I gotta warn you
- TNTrevor Noah
... warn me, prepare me.
- KHKevin Hart
All right, you right. All right, I'm about to say some deep shit, but it's gonna start off as fucked-up shit. And then we'll get to the good shit.
- TNTrevor Noah
There we go. You see? That's-
- KHKevin Hart
Okay.
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay, okay.
- KHKevin Hart
All right, ready?
- TNTrevor Noah
All right. Bill Cosby.
- 1:03:57 – 1:07:47
What Now: Don't Screw Us Over, Vida Hustle, and Passing the Baton
- TNTrevor Noah
Before I let you go, you're a very busy man. Let me ask you this question. I ask everybody on the podcast: What now? We meet Kevin Hart in this moment.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
Because it seems like you are perpetually building and perpetually expanding, I'd love to know, what now, as you, as you move into the next stage of-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm
- TNTrevor Noah
... doing everything? It's VC.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
It's banking. It's, it's all of these things. What... And do me a favor, Kevin. I ask you this as a friend and as a human being: Don't ever release, like, some shitty credit product that hurts Black people and poor people.
- KHKevin Hart
I'm not doing. I'm not doing.
- TNTrevor Noah
I'm looking at you on camera saying this right now.
- KHKevin Hart
Yes, I'm not... I will not do that. I don't-
- TNTrevor Noah
I'm just saying this to you right now, Kev
- KHKevin Hart
... I don't have a credit card coming out.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yo, Kev?
- KHKevin Hart
I don't have a-
- TNTrevor Noah
I'm letting you know-
- KHKevin Hart
Yes
- TNTrevor Noah
... face-to-face.
- KHKevin Hart
I'm, I'm telling you that I do not.
- TNTrevor Noah
Your people love you.
- KHKevin Hart
Yes. I do not.
- TNTrevor Noah
Do not screw us over.
- KHKevin Hart
I say this to you at face value.
- TNTrevor Noah
I mean this, Kev.
- KHKevin Hart
My whole relationship-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yo, I'm just letting you know
- KHKevin Hart
... with my financial partner-
- TNTrevor Noah
You remember, I even, you remember I even-
- KHKevin Hart
... is built off of financial literacy-
- TNTrevor Noah
You remember I had a dream
- KHKevin Hart
... and caring about people.
- 1:07:47 – 1:10:08
Wrap-Up: Gaslighting Jokes and the Security Guard Story
- KHKevin Hart
Trevor, I like talking to you, man.
- TNTrevor Noah
I love talking. I always, I always enjoy speaking to you.
- KHKevin Hart
I'm serious. This is really good. I think, I think low-key, I, I wanna say that this was, like, your way of giving me a therapy session that you think I need.
- TNTrevor Noah
No, no, no.
- KHKevin Hart
And I'ma talk to you about it later.
- TNTrevor Noah
No, Kev.
- KHKevin Hart
I think you just-
- TNTrevor Noah
No
- KHKevin Hart
... I think you gasbombed me.
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs] What?
- KHKevin Hart
What is... Is that term right?
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
Did you gasbomb me? I think you gasbombed me.
- TNTrevor Noah
I actually like that. [laughs]
- KHKevin Hart
[laughs] Gas-
- TNTrevor Noah
I'ma, I'ma gasbomb people more.
- KHKevin Hart
I, I appreciate you
- TNTrevor Noah
No, for real, man. I, I, I appreciate you. I appreciate your transparency. Um, I appreciate how you've always, always supported me. I, I, I always tell people the story, and I never hold back. I go, "Nobody wanted to come on The Daily Show when I was starting." Everyone seemed... You know, like now, I hold an Emmy, people go, "Oh, it's obviously well-deserved." Nobody wanted to come on that show.
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
Nobody wanted to be the... 'Cause they were like, if I... People were like, "If I say I'm with him-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm
- TNTrevor Noah
... I don't know who he is, what he's gonna do-
- KHKevin Hart
Mm-hmm
- TNTrevor Noah
... how he's g-..." I understand that fear. I don't even hold it against people. You were literally the first person who said, "I will do it. I will open this random African person's TV show-
- KHKevin Hart
Absolutely
- TNTrevor Noah
... after Jon Stewart-
- KHKevin Hart
Absolutely
- TNTrevor Noah
... and I'll ride with it," and I'm eternally grateful. I was like, Kevin Hart... And I get it. I was like, if he can support Bill Cosby, he can support me.
- KHKevin Hart
Well, okay. Well, that's a weird way to-
- TNTrevor Noah
And, uh-
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