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Kevin Hart Gets the Bubble Guts! - What Now? with Trevor Noah Podcast

I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I enjoyed recording it. LOL. In this episode I sit down with my comedic rockstar friend Kevin Hart and it goes exactly as one can expect getting to sit down and chat with Kevin Hart. 😂 Even though I’m not sure I believe him, he explains how he makes a big arena show feel intimate. We discuss him being a phenomenal swimmer and how at times he’s easily mistaken for Michael Phelps, again…. I’m not buying it. Lastly, we discuss how he climbed the ranks on the call sheet one cameo at a time and the single table read that changed everything for him! If you haven't already.... Subscribe to What Now? here on YouTube! https://bit.ly/SubscribeToWhatNow Or follow along on your other favourite podcast platforms... Spotify - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnSpotify / Apple Podcasts - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnApplePodcasts More episodes... Doctor Roger Federer Will See You Now https://youtu.be/0foth8r3Zbg?si=jLLMfq9DE90rLAZn Welcome To The Julia Louis-Dreyfus Brain Museum https://youtu.be/gIM1aQ9KS1o?si=z6pYIWwtEOfjqspB Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson Kicks Off The Podcast! https://youtu.be/gPmBuZbnn0g?si=R2jJLxG5cb-BwF03 Tripping Past Your Ego with Michael Pollan https://youtu.be/RMXu7Fn_bZc?si=CGbfQWZzKnwPDKaz Sam Altman Speaks Out About What Happened at OpenAI https://youtu.be/dVTxt5K8YZo?si=tNjKcPxtZuj6crVd There’s No I In Trevor Noah https://youtu.be/NZYnFYmn1Q0?si=5mYwzWfs83XoXhLO The Ozempic Obsession with Jia Tolentino https://youtu.be/ZR9QASRetRc?si=FmhMdLFmYKAOtxP8 Jessica Alba Is Standing in Her Power! https://youtu.be/zY9KZyJ1EiI?si=qGolN-Ga4PI3C-5a #KevinHart #TrevorNoah #WhatNowPodcast

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  1. 0:00 – 0:00

    Intro

    1. TN

      [upbeat music]

  2. 0:00 – 3:47

    Commutes, Drones, and Comedians' Three Stages

    1. TN

      Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of What Now? with Trevor Noah. On today's episode, I sit down with comedian and international movie star, the one and only Kevin Hart. And I'll let you know now, I always have fun conversations with Kevin Hart, but this conversation may have been one of my favorites, I think. We get into comedy, life, and everything that makes Kevin Hart who he is in some really interesting ways. I really had a great time chatting to him, and so, uh, I think you'll enjoy the conversation too. [upbeat music] This is What Now? With Trevor Noah [upbeat music] .

    2. KH

      He changed my fucking cups too [laughing] . He comes in here with his people, he takes all my shit. Huh? That's sweet, that is. Give me a hug, man. How you doing, big dog? Look at him. Look at him. Fucked up my backdrop. What happened to our stuff?

    3. TN

      Ugh. Sit down, Kev.

    4. KH

      We've got it, but sure. Sit down. That's nicer. Hi, Mary. How are you? Oh, my God. All right. I've got you. I'm ready, Trev.

    5. TN

      Is this how you dress every day?

    6. KH

      This? Yeah.

    7. TN

      Yeah. How far do you live from here?

    8. KH

      I don't wanna talk about it. [laughs] I don't wanna talk about it. They make me drive so far, 'cause I do it 'cause I sacrifice for my team. I'm in Calabasas, so it takes me an hour and 15-

    9. TN

      You come in every day?

    10. KH

      I come in ... When I'm here, do I come in every day? Yeah. So an hour and-

    11. TN

      So it's an hour 15 to come in

    12. KH

      ... hour ... Like, 'cause I'm leaving during traffic time, but if I wait, then it's, like, a 35-minute ride. No traffic, 35 minutes.

    13. TN

      That's terrible. Are you gonna get a drone?

    14. KH

      A drone?

    15. TN

      Yeah.

    16. KH

      Why would, why am I getting a drone?

    17. TN

      You haven't seen the drones that are coming out?

    18. KH

      That you can fly inside?

    19. TN

      They'll be coming out in a few years. There'll be little drones that you can fly in.

    20. KH

      Why do I wanna fly in a drone? What am I-

    21. TN

      You don't wanna be in traffic, Kev. [laughs]

    22. KH

      Why can't I just ... [laughs] Oh, wait, you talking ... Like, the drones are just like-

    23. TN

      Yeah, like [imitates drone] and then you fly-

    24. KH

      And you can just go above traffic

    25. TN

      ... yeah, man. I ... You're gonna, you're gonna be in a drone. I can see you.

    26. KH

      Now, I'm not gonna lie to you-

    27. TN

      I promise you right now, you're gonna be in a drone

    28. KH

      ... if you're telling me that it's not gonna fuck up my clothes-

    29. TN

      [laughs]

    30. KH

      ... and I can get in a drone, I'll do it. If you're telling me I can, I can get in a drone-

  3. 3:47 – 7:59

    Arenas vs. Theaters and Kevin's Envy of Peers

    1. TN

      I remember talking to Dave years ago. There's a time when Dave Chappelle, for those listening, um, Dave never used to want to do arenas.

    2. KH

      I did it.

    3. TN

      And then he, and then he ... I mean, obviously everyone wants to see him, so now he has to, he has to do bigger venues.

    4. KH

      No, I, I did-

    5. TN

      But you, you, you, you definitely lose something.

    6. KH

      I, I sparked, I sparked the arena bug, and I'm coming-

    7. TN

      Wait, you d- you, you did that?

    8. KH

      With Dave? Absolutely. I sparked it with Dave and Chris, right? I said-

    9. TN

      So I, I blame you-

    10. KH

      For Dave doing arenas

    11. TN

      ... is what you're saying. Yeah.

    12. KH

      And, and Dave not only-

    13. TN

      Do you prefer arenas? [laughs]

    14. KH

      I gotta be honest with you, Trev. I gotta be honest with you, man. I do. But let me-

    15. TN

      Wait, what?

    16. KH

      Let me tell you, let me tell you why. Hear me out.

    17. TN

      Go.

    18. KH

      Hear me out why, and I bet-

    19. TN

      Go

    20. KH

      ... when I say this, you go-

    21. TN

      Go

    22. KH

      ... you agree.

    23. TN

      Go.

    24. KH

      And here's how I got Dave, this is how I got Dave bitten-

    25. TN

      Mm-hmm

    26. KH

      ... with the bug. I said, "Listen to me, Dave. The beauty of doing the arenas when you're a good comic-

    27. TN

      Okay

    28. KH

      ... is turning the arenas into a intimate environment."

    29. TN

      Okay.

    30. KH

      You can turn it into-

  4. 7:59 – 15:57

    The Protest Bit and Being Sucked In by Vanity

    1. TN

      I, my favorite political bit of yours, and I know it, it wouldn't be considered political, but I think it was way more political than anyone would ever think, is the bit where you were talking about being sucked into a Black Lives Matter protest.

    2. KH

      Oh, my God. Black man in the middle with a bullhorn going off. "Black lives matter. And if you don't think they matter, then you're a part of the problem. And today we find a solution. The solution is death. Every Black person that showed up here today is willing to die. We will all die today. We don't give a fuck about life. If you Black and you here, it's 'cause you came to die. If you Black and you in this circle around me, it's 'cause you ready to die first." I look down, I'm in the fucking circle. I said, "Wait a minute."

    3. SP

      [laughs]

    4. KH

      "That's not why I came. I didn't come for that. That's not why I'm here."

    5. SP

      [laughs]

    6. TN

      That, can I tell you something?

    7. KH

      It's a true story.

    8. TN

      That ... Yeah, but what I loved about that bit was, whether it was intentional or not, it told a very true story about how so many people get sucked into the allure of-

    9. KH

      Yes

    10. TN

      ... appearing to be-

    11. KH

      Yes

    12. TN

      ... what they're not. And now you just, that speech that you-

    13. KH

      You're in it

    14. TN

      ... that speech that you gave [laughs] .

    15. KH

      You're in it.

    16. TN

      [laughs] I don't even remember. I just remember trying to, trying to repeat it to my friends.

    17. KH

      Yeah.

    18. TN

      Yeah.

    19. KH

      Yeah.

    20. TN

      It, it ain't go- what did you say? It ain't, it ain't go-

    21. KH

      You already know what it is.

    22. SP

      [laughs]

    23. KH

      Now I gotta give a speech. You ever say something, and while you're saying something you realize you're not saying nothing, but you gotta keep trying to say something even though you know it's nothing?

    24. SP

      [laughs]

    25. KH

      That was my fucking speech. This is my speech word for word. Verbatim, this is my speech.

    26. SP

      [laughs]

    27. KH

      "All right."

    28. SP

      [laughs]

    29. KH

      "Y'all already know what it is. And what it is is what it's gonna be."

    30. SP

      [laughs]

  5. 15:57 – 23:46

    Cameo Grind: Fearless Auditions and the Road to Leading Roles

    1. TN

      what do you think changed in your life? I, I could be completely wrong. I'm taking a shot here.

    2. KH

      Okay.

    3. TN

      Every, every artist has a moment in their lives where something happens, something shifts, and you see that shift apparent in their work. There is no denying that you came out with two of, I would say, the seminal specials when you first, when you first came out, right?

    4. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    5. TN

      Was, was Laugh at My Pain, Little Grown Man.

    6. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    7. TN

      I mean, they were, they were... You remember. We all know what they were like. In comedy, we all know what those specials are like. There are specials where you can go like, "That, that was it. That's a timestamp." That, that right there, you can't... Kevin Hart becomes a movie star. You kill it in everything. I mean, I remember in 40-Old Virgin, you, you were honestly I think one of the top cameo performers pound for pound-

    8. KH

      Mm-hmm

    9. TN

      ... I've ever seen.

    10. KH

      It was, it was a real similar-

    11. TN

      You would step into a movie, and everybody in the theater would be killing themselves, and nobody would know your name.

    12. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    13. TN

      Nobody would know who that guy was. They would just go, "I love..." Every time I tell people movies you've been in, they'll be like, "He was in that?"

    14. KH

      Along Came Polly.

    15. TN

      And then I go, "That scene."

    16. KH

      Along Came Polly.

    17. TN

      Yeah. And then they go, they go, "Oh, that was... Oh, shit, I remember."

    18. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    19. TN

      "Oh, I didn't even know."

    20. KH

      Uh-huh.

    21. TN

      And I, I wanna, I w-

    22. KH

      Cameo man

    23. TN

      ... I wanna... So in a weird way, I sometimes think some people feel like you were this immediate overnight success, because in a strange way, they didn't remember all of these characters you were playing in all of these movies. Do, do you get what I'm saying?

    24. KH

      I mean, I, not only do I get it-

    25. TN

      'Cause it, 'cause it did, it did seem like all of a sudden you were just the face of a franchise-

    26. KH

      Yeah

    27. TN

      ... and the face of a movie. But I go, like, Kevin Hart was grinding away-

    28. KH

      No, I was-

    29. TN

      ... in three-minute segments in different people's movies

    30. KH

      ... I was number seven and 10 on a call sheet for years. For years.

  6. 23:46 – 29:57

    Preserving Success and the Fear Behind the Stomach Bubbles

    1. TN

      So y- you have these seminal moments in your stand-up, and then I feel like, could be completely wrong, and don't be offended when I say this, but I feel like there's moments in between in your stand-up where it almost felt like Kevin Hart was preserving Kevin Hart more than Kevin Hart was just being and doing Kevin Hart.

    2. KH

      Oh, my God, absolutely.

    3. TN

      And, and, and I say this as a comedian who's experienced it.

    4. KH

      Yeah, that's not-

    5. TN

      I say that like-

    6. KH

      ... that's not offensive at all. That's truth

    7. TN

      ... so every comedian starts off in what I argue is the best place.

    8. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    9. TN

      You have nothing.

    10. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    11. TN

      You get on stage. The only thing you have is your comedy, and the only thing you receive is a laugh You don't even get money.

    12. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    13. TN

      People, people don't realize. In the clubs, we were getting $5, $10. Pookie still owes me $15.

    14. KH

      Yeah, you gotta get it.

    15. TN

      Do you know... That, it'll never happen.

    16. KH

      You gotta get it.

    17. TN

      I've accepted this, Kevin. I've accepted this.

    18. KH

      You gotta get it, bro.

    19. TN

      So-

    20. KH

      I'ma get mine.

    21. TN

      [laughs] So you, y- y- that's all you're getting, is the laugh and the confirmation of a joke working or not.

    22. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    23. TN

      That's it.

    24. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    25. TN

      Something clicks. You start to become successful. Now there's a moment where on this bell curve you have nothing, you reach the peak, and now it feels like you have everything. You don't have everything-

    26. KH

      [laughs]

    27. TN

      ... but it feels like you have everything-

    28. KH

      Mm-hmm

    29. TN

      ... 'cause it's more than what you had.

    30. KH

      Mm-hmm.

  7. 29:57 – 36:22

    What Changed: Ownership, the Accident, and Fear of the Bottom

    1. TN

      What changed?

    2. KH

      What changed for me was I got to a place of not just success, but understanding. So my understanding now is, yo, I built a fan base. I built a global fan base of people that no matter what show up- Because they go, "I like that guy." And in that-

    3. TN

      But how did you develop the understanding?

    4. KH

      Th- the understanding comes where the noise from the outside, you realize is not noise. The things, the things that you think-

    5. TN

      Can I, can I throw something at you?

    6. KH

      Go ahead.

    7. TN

      I could be wildly wrong. I noticed the shift, or I noticed the shift happening most apparently after the car accident.

    8. KH

      That was a, that was a, that was a different shift. Shift number one came with the understanding of I wanna be a brand.

    9. TN

      Mm-hmm.

    10. KH

      I wanna be a global brand. I wanna own my brand so that my worry attached to the craft goes away because I control it. So once I saw that the idea of control is something that I could dictate if I owned it, and I did that, and I was like, "It's kinda like dope."

    11. TN

      You think that changed your level of fear?

    12. KH

      1,000%, 'cause I control it. So I'm using stand-up to set up the movie. The movie-

    13. TN

      I don't know.

    14. KH

      Listen, listen.

    15. TN

      I don't know.

    16. KH

      Listen to me.

    17. TN

      I hear you, but I, I don't know.

    18. KH

      Trevor-

    19. TN

      'Cause I, 'cause I feel like you had that drive before. I disagree.

    20. KH

      No, the drive-

    21. TN

      I disagree

    22. KH

      ... listen, drive is drive, right?

    23. TN

      I don't, I don't, I don't... Yeah, but, but what I'm saying, what I'm challenging you on is this, is, like, and I say this as an observer and as a fan of yours. I think there's something you might take for granted, 'cause don't get me wrong, there's Kevin Hart the businessman, and you, you, you're very apt at doing that. But sometimes, like, as Kevin Hart the human being, you, like, you have moments where, and not to get too deep, but you have moments where, you know, because of how you grew up, because of your family unit, because of, you know, what it was like growing up with your dad as an addict, because it was like seeing your mom in her grind and everything, I think there are moments where you forget how much you push and drive because of the fear of losing all of the things that have helped you and your family to get to where you've gotten to.

    24. KH

      The fear, the fear is what motivates-

    25. TN

      Yeah

    26. KH

      ... the complete sentences behind the drive. In other words, like-

    27. TN

      But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is that fear has slipped, and something happened, and it cannot come from... I do not believe that the drive can be the reason for the drive. I believe, and I, I could be wrong, but I will fight you on this.

    28. KH

      Okay.

    29. TN

      There's something that comes. There is, there is... You know, you know when human beings are injured, Kev, there's something that happens. I remember talking to, um, an amazing woman who's a, a disability advocate. And she, she was one of the people who led the revolution in America on just getting, like, wheelchair access into venues, things that you don't think were, were, like, you think of today as common.

    30. KH

      Mm-hmm.

  8. 36:22 – 41:09

    Kevin's Scaffolding: Owning Buildings, Brands, and Security

    1. KH

      you fall-

    2. TN

      Okay. You need to go to therapy, Kev

    3. KH

      ... or if you, if you attempt a fall-

    4. TN

      You need to go, you need to go to therapy

    5. KH

      ... no, I'm not going to therapy.

    6. TN

      You need to go to therapy.

    7. KH

      No, and you just used the therapy word on me.

    8. TN

      You need to go to therapy.

    9. KH

      Listen, here, here's where-

    10. TN

      I see who you are. You're a scaffolding brother.

    11. KH

      Listen, here's where-

    12. TN

      I know you very well

    13. KH

      ... here's where you have to think. Here's where you have to go with think, right?

    14. TN

      Man, everything Kevin Hart's about to say, I advise every listener to, to... I mean, listen to, but don't-

    15. KH

      Listen to

    16. TN

      ... don't follow it.

    17. KH

      All right.

    18. TN

      Don't follow it.

    19. KH

      Okay.

    20. TN

      It works, but it is-

    21. KH

      Trevor is saying-

    22. TN

      ... it's not a permanent solution

    23. KH

      ... what Trevor is saying, Trevor is saying, "Hey, some people fall and they go, 'I'm not gonna use my hands to break this fall.'"

    24. TN

      [laughs] No, that's not what I'm saying.

    25. KH

      Wait, let me finish. Some people, some people go-

    26. TN

      Tell people, tell people about the scaffolding that you're gonna... Tell them about this. Tell them what you-

    27. KH

      Some people go, "I'm gonna fall on my face."

    28. TN

      I'll, I'll even say it to you, and you tell me if I'm right about-

    29. KH

      No

    30. TN

      ... what you're about to say.

  9. 41:09 – 45:09

    Trevor's Half-Empty Arena in Springfield

    1. TN

      Have you, have you ever done a half-empty arena, by the way?

    2. KH

      No.

    3. TN

      I've done one.

    4. KH

      No.

    5. TN

      And can I tell you-

    6. KH

      Now I shouldn't have said it that fast. That sounded really, that sounded really asshole.

    7. TN

      Oh, no.

    8. KH

      Absolutely not.

    9. TN

      That's fine. That's fine.

    10. KH

      Yeah, I know, but let-

    11. TN

      I've done, I've done one-

    12. KH

      ... let me take, ask me that question again.

    13. TN

      Kev, have you ever done an empty arena, a half-empty arena?

    14. KH

      Have I ever done... Let me think. Have I done an empty arena?

    15. TN

      [laughs]

    16. KH

      Um, I don't know, Trevor. I don't know if I have. I would have to think about it. I mean, I'm quite sure there's probably been some.

    17. TN

      We're gonna go with the first take.

    18. KH

      [laughs]

    19. TN

      I like that better. Um, so I've, I've done, I've done one before. This was in Springfield, Missouri. It was really the only venue that we could go to. Deep Republican, um, like, little, you know, enclave. And my team said, "This is it. We, we don't know the promo- You've never been. We don't even know what's gonna happen here."

    20. KH

      Yeah.

    21. TN

      "We don't even know if you have fans in this place. Let's see what happens." I said, "Well, let's, let's go." We went there. I think the arena, this is, like, a cut-down arena. Could... I think it could... The capacity was 6,000 people maybe.

    22. KH

      Okay, 5, 6.

    23. TN

      Yeah, I think we sold 3- or 4,000 tickets.

    24. KH

      Okay.

    25. TN

      Everybody, when I walked in, everybody looked like we were at a funeral. Not the audience.

    26. KH

      Yeah.

    27. TN

      I mean everyone backstage.

    28. KH

      No, on your team. Yeah.

    29. TN

      You know when the promoter can't look at you?

    30. KH

      Yeah.

  10. 45:09 – 50:20

    Scaffolding Explained and Kevin's Fumbled Early Years

    1. TN

      What I mean by a scaffolding, a scaffolding brother is there are two ways, or there are multiple ways, but I think two of the, of the, of the, of the prominent ways for us to deal with the idea of having less or going backwards or, or diminishing in life or whatever it might be. The one way is to build scaffolding in our lives, and what that scaffolding is, is we go, "Okay, if as Kevin Hart I'm not a movie star, oh, okay, what do I have? If as Kevin Hart I'm not a comedian selling out, what do I have? Okay, so let me diversify. I'm gonna build up these companies. I'm gonna build up these institutions. I'm gonna own that. I'm gonna own this. I'm gonna own this. I'm gonna own that. I'm gonna own that. I'm gonna own... That way, I'm in a situation where my eggs are not in one basket, and that means that if in one space I am, you know, unceremoniously kicked out, I still have everything else that I can go back to."

    2. KH

      Mm.

    3. TN

      "I have basically created the scaffolding."

    4. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    5. TN

      You know, that's, that's why they use scaffolding in construction, so that they don't go backwards from that p... It's like, "All right. Let's build around-

    6. KH

      Mm-hmm

    7. TN

      ... this thing-

    8. KH

      Mm-hmm

    9. TN

      ... to at least enable it to get to a certain place-

    10. KH

      Mm-hmm

    11. TN

      ... and then we can sort of move back." But, but it, it, it holds everything where it needs to be-

    12. KH

      Mm-hmm

    13. TN

      ... while it is being built up. Right?

    14. KH

      I, I think that's a great breakdown.

    15. TN

      Y- right. And I would encourage you to try it a little bit more. I know it's hard, don't get me wrong, 'cause you're Kevin Hart and you, you have this mountain that you've built. But I would encourage you as Kevin Hart to also realize beyond the brands, beyond the buildings, beyond all of those things, and I would even speak on behalf of, of your kids, I think you take for granted that the buildings may not have as much of an impact on your kids as the building that you've done with them.

    16. KH

      I, I would say you're probably correct. It's not until-

    17. TN

      Not probably.

    18. KH

      Well, yeah, here's where you probably are correct, right?

    19. TN

      Oh, you said probably again.

    20. KH

      Well, I'ma tell you why.

    21. TN

      [laughs]

    22. KH

      I'ma tell you why, all right? So, the idea of follow through early on, it presented itself and I never took it serious, right? Uh, school, I fucked it off. High school, SATs, fucked it off.

    23. TN

      Mm-hmm.

    24. KH

      Didn't take it serious. Abacadaba the whole way down. I'm going to great adventure to go be with my friends. You know, applying to college, trying to get into college. For what? Like, everybody, are y'all doing it? Fucked it off. Community college, two weeks. I'm out of here. This ain't for me. Sneaker store, I guess this what it's gonna be. Everything-

    25. TN

      'Cause you worked at... Where w- did you work at Foot Locker? Where did you work?

    26. KH

      City Sports. City Sports Foot Locker.

    27. TN

      City Sports. Okay.

    28. KH

      City Sports.

    29. TN

      Yeah.

    30. KH

      Everything that was positioned in front of me for me to take serious-

  11. 50:20 – 55:34

    His Mother's Lessons and Forgiving His Father

    1. TN

      When did you, when did you first, first start realizing how right your mom was in life?

    2. KH

      When you realize how much you fucked off. [laughs]

    3. TN

      [laughs]

    4. KH

      When you, when you look up and all your friends moving on and going away-

    5. TN

      Oh, man

    6. KH

      ... to college. They got scholarships. And you saying, "When did y'all apply? When did y'all apply to do that?" Kev, you didn't apply.

    7. TN

      Damn.

    8. KH

      And now you realize you're the ignorant child.

    9. TN

      Damn.

    10. KH

      You're realizing you're the dumb child.

    11. TN

      Do you feel like you got to the place where you got to reward your mo- your mother for the investment that she made in you? 'Cause I, 'cause I know how hard it was, you know, for you losing her.

    12. KH

      Absolutely not.

    13. TN

      You, you, you didn't feel like in your-

    14. KH

      No

    15. TN

      ... lifetime you ... No.

    16. KH

      No.

    17. TN

      You don't think she was ... Like, 'cause she, just as you were rising-

    18. KH

      Mm-hmm. Fool's Gold, I wanna say this was, like, my-

    19. TN

      Were you in Australia? Where were you shooting this?

    20. KH

      I was in Australia-

    21. TN

      Yeah

    22. KH

      ... but I'm just trying to think of where this movie ... You know, this was, this was basically, like, you know, a big role for me-

    23. TN

      Yeah

    24. KH

      ... 'cause I was number three or four on the call sheet.

    25. TN

      It was, like, Matthew McConaughey or something, right? Yeah.

    26. KH

      Matthew McConaughey, Kate Hudson.

    27. TN

      Uh-huh.

    28. KH

      And this is a big role, so I went away to Australia. But this is, like, one of my, like, big roles.

    29. TN

      Yeah. And your mom was sick at the time.

    30. KH

      She was sick at the time. So she didn't get to ... Like, the world of benefits came way after-

  12. 55:34 – 59:01

    Family, Uncle Duties, and Building a Fallback

    1. KH

      My, my brother and my dad's relationship was a little rougher. They figured their shit out. My brother is, pound for pound, the best thing that ever happened to my kids. My brother has taken the role, if I have to go, he comes.

    2. TN

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

    3. KH

      I gotta go on the road, my brother comes to the house. I gotta go do movie or promo or whatever, my brother's out there. The feeling of love is never a void-

    4. TN

      Yeah

    5. KH

      ... or never a missed opportunity. He have four kids. Four kids that all stand on, "Oh yeah, when Dad's not here, Uncle come out and Uncle helps us do this and that."

    6. TN

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

    7. KH

      My brother is the, "Hey man, let me show y'all how to fly a kite. Let me show you, you never threw a boomerang? Y'all never seen these old movies, Rascals?"

    8. TN

      [laughs]

    9. KH

      "Kevin, you ain't show 'em Rascals?"

    10. TN

      That's funny.

    11. KH

      Or Little Giants.

    12. TN

      You, you, you-

    13. KH

      All the shit you don't think about

    14. TN

      ... you maintain the village, man.

    15. KH

      You don't-

    16. TN

      It's the village

    17. KH

      ... all the shit that you overlook-

    18. TN

      Yeah

    19. KH

      ... if you got a partner-

    20. TN

      Yeah

    21. KH

      ... you got a partner in crime that really understands you and has your best interests-

    22. TN

      Yeah

    23. KH

      ... where I'm coming in, and Dad is the cool dad that loves us and wants to do all the cool stuff, the dope activities. We watch movies, we chill, but Uncle, well, Uncle got the activity game on lock.

    24. TN

      I love this for you, man.

    25. KH

      "Dad, Uncle, you know, Uncle showed me how to throw a strike." "You can't throw no strike. Let me see it. Throw it. I bet I knock that ball out the park."

    26. TN

      [laughs]

    27. KH

      "No you not." And my brother throw the strike. "I beat the shit out that ball."

    28. TN

      Oh, man.

    29. KH

      Bow! My kids like, "Dad!" "That's right. You know why I did that? 'Cause your uncle ain't shit."

    30. TN

      [laughs]

  13. 59:01 – 1:03:57

    Bill Cosby in Montreal and Loving the Craft

    1. KH

      I gotta say this, and you talked about it, 'cause you touched on it a little bit. When you talk about the fear as a comic-

    2. TN

      Yeah

    3. KH

      ... right? Let's, like, of course take all his personal shit out of it, Bill Cosby, for a second. I was in Montreal-

    4. TN

      Did you just, did you just throw Bill Cosby in the end of a, in the end of a sentence?

    5. KH

      Well, you'll see why. Uh, Bill Cosby-

    6. TN

      You can't... Okay.

    7. KH

      I can.

    8. TN

      But can I just say-

    9. KH

      I said put it aside.

    10. TN

      Okay. So, so-

    11. KH

      I said that

    12. TN

      ... but let me explain something.

    13. KH

      But I preface that.

    14. TN

      Let me ex- explain something right now. You cannot, you cannot just say at the end of a sentence-

    15. KH

      Yeah, Bill Cosby

    16. TN

      ... you cannot go like, "You know, let's, let's throw all the personal shit aside. We're gonna-"

    17. KH

      Yeah

    18. TN

      ... Bill Cosby.

    19. KH

      Yeah.

    20. TN

      So anyway-

    21. KH

      Okay

    22. TN

      ... you, you have to w- like-

    23. KH

      I gotta warn you

    24. TN

      ... warn me, prepare me.

    25. KH

      All right, you right. All right, I'm about to say some deep shit, but it's gonna start off as fucked-up shit. And then we'll get to the good shit.

    26. TN

      There we go. You see? That's-

    27. KH

      Okay.

    28. TN

      Okay, okay.

    29. KH

      All right, ready?

    30. TN

      All right. Bill Cosby.

  14. 1:03:57 – 1:07:47

    What Now: Don't Screw Us Over, Vida Hustle, and Passing the Baton

    1. TN

      Before I let you go, you're a very busy man. Let me ask you this question. I ask everybody on the podcast: What now? We meet Kevin Hart in this moment.

    2. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    3. TN

      Because it seems like you are perpetually building and perpetually expanding, I'd love to know, what now, as you, as you move into the next stage of-

    4. KH

      Mm-hmm

    5. TN

      ... doing everything? It's VC.

    6. KH

      Mm-hmm.

    7. TN

      It's banking. It's, it's all of these things. What... And do me a favor, Kevin. I ask you this as a friend and as a human being: Don't ever release, like, some shitty credit product that hurts Black people and poor people.

    8. KH

      I'm not doing. I'm not doing.

    9. TN

      I'm looking at you on camera saying this right now.

    10. KH

      Yes, I'm not... I will not do that. I don't-

    11. TN

      I'm just saying this to you right now, Kev

    12. KH

      ... I don't have a credit card coming out.

    13. TN

      Yo, Kev?

    14. KH

      I don't have a-

    15. TN

      I'm letting you know-

    16. KH

      Yes

    17. TN

      ... face-to-face.

    18. KH

      I'm, I'm telling you that I do not.

    19. TN

      Your people love you.

    20. KH

      Yes. I do not.

    21. TN

      Do not screw us over.

    22. KH

      I say this to you at face value.

    23. TN

      I mean this, Kev.

    24. KH

      My whole relationship-

    25. TN

      Yo, I'm just letting you know

    26. KH

      ... with my financial partner-

    27. TN

      You remember, I even, you remember I even-

    28. KH

      ... is built off of financial literacy-

    29. TN

      You remember I had a dream

    30. KH

      ... and caring about people.

  15. 1:07:47 – 1:10:08

    Wrap-Up: Gaslighting Jokes and the Security Guard Story

    1. KH

      Trevor, I like talking to you, man.

    2. TN

      I love talking. I always, I always enjoy speaking to you.

    3. KH

      I'm serious. This is really good. I think, I think low-key, I, I wanna say that this was, like, your way of giving me a therapy session that you think I need.

    4. TN

      No, no, no.

    5. KH

      And I'ma talk to you about it later.

    6. TN

      No, Kev.

    7. KH

      I think you just-

    8. TN

      No

    9. KH

      ... I think you gasbombed me.

    10. TN

      [laughs] What?

    11. KH

      What is... Is that term right?

    12. TN

      [laughs]

    13. KH

      Did you gasbomb me? I think you gasbombed me.

    14. TN

      I actually like that. [laughs]

    15. KH

      [laughs] Gas-

    16. TN

      I'ma, I'ma gasbomb people more.

    17. KH

      I, I appreciate you

    18. TN

      No, for real, man. I, I, I appreciate you. I appreciate your transparency. Um, I appreciate how you've always, always supported me. I, I, I always tell people the story, and I never hold back. I go, "Nobody wanted to come on The Daily Show when I was starting." Everyone seemed... You know, like now, I hold an Emmy, people go, "Oh, it's obviously well-deserved." Nobody wanted to come on that show.

    19. KH

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

    20. TN

      Nobody wanted to be the... 'Cause they were like, if I... People were like, "If I say I'm with him-

    21. KH

      Mm-hmm

    22. TN

      ... I don't know who he is, what he's gonna do-

    23. KH

      Mm-hmm

    24. TN

      ... how he's g-..." I understand that fear. I don't even hold it against people. You were literally the first person who said, "I will do it. I will open this random African person's TV show-

    25. KH

      Absolutely

    26. TN

      ... after Jon Stewart-

    27. KH

      Absolutely

    28. TN

      ... and I'll ride with it," and I'm eternally grateful. I was like, Kevin Hart... And I get it. I was like, if he can support Bill Cosby, he can support me.

    29. KH

      Well, okay. Well, that's a weird way to-

    30. TN

      And, uh-

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