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Meet Joe Opio - My Favorite People

In this episode of My Favorite People, Trevor, Eugene, and Dave chat with Daily Show writer Joe Opio, a man so relentlessly happy they are convinced he was sent from another planet to mock their collective anxiety. If you haven't already.... Subscribe to the channel here: http://bit.ly/SubscribeTrevorNoah Or follow the podcast on your other favorite platforms... SiriusXM - Apple Podcasts - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnApplePodcasts Spotify - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnSpotify 00:00:00 – Trevor Apologizes for South Africa’s Twitter Habits 00:00:32 – Joe Opio: “You’re Listening to Reggae Wrong” 00:01:45 – Meet Joe Opio: Ugandan Comedy Legend 00:03:21 – Trevor’s Sex Tape Analogy for Recording Hangouts 00:04:25 – First Time Not Calculating Menu Prices 00:05:02 – Joe’s Pressure Scene: Swordfish (That One) 00:06:09 – The Great Swordfish Movie Debate 00:08:00 – Joe’s Wild Taste in Movies & Books 00:09:00 – Ugandan Accents & Trevor’s Savage Impressions 00:11:23 – Food Falling From the Sky in Uganda 00:18:31 – Mistaken for Child Soldier at Idris Elba Premiere 00:21:21 – Baby’s Day Out Bigger Than Star Wars 00:25:55 – South African Twitter Vernac Beef 00:30:05 – Trevor Defends Code-Switching with Sean Paul 00:33:05 – How Trevor & Joe Met at Comedy Cellar 00:45:02 – Joe Gives Notes to Louis C.K. 00:55:50 – The Baby-Throwing Park Panic 1:05:26 – Why Joe Is Never Upset 1:08:14 – Joe’s “Hashtag Winning” Philosophy 1:17:14 – Joe’s Weird Hourly Alarm Sleep Hack 1:28:19 – Joe’s Pep Talk That Saved Trevor 1:45:38 – Joe’s Obsession: 25+ Cruises Explained 1:54:00 – Uganda’s Crazy Global History Moments 2:06:31 – Joe Roasts Trevor’s Sweet Texts

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  1. 0:000:32

    Trevor Apologizes for South Africa’s Twitter Habits

    1. TN

      [upbeat music] I will apologize on behalf of South Africans then to you as a fellow African-

    2. JO

      Apologize accepted, yes

    3. TN

      ... yeah, as a fellow African. We didn't mean to leave you in the dust. We're not trying to do this intentionally. However, your beef is misplaced because when we listened to Sean Paul-

    4. JO

      Okay

    5. TN

      ... and other, like-

    6. JO

      Yes

    7. TN

      ... reggae, ragga artists-

    8. JO

      Dancehall, yes

    9. TN

      ... and some of the dancehall and all of those vibes, those guys would switch things up in the middle of a sentence. We w- what did we say?

    10. JO

      I'll say this.

    11. TN

      No, no, no, no.

    12. JO

      I'll

  2. 0:321:45

    Joe Opio: “You’re Listening to Reggae Wrong”

    1. JO

      say this to counter.

    2. TN

      Just give me the light.

    3. JO

      I- I'll say this-

    4. TN

      Yeah, yeah

    5. JO

      ... if you listen-

    6. TN

      [singing]

    7. JO

      ... if you, if you listen to reggae-

    8. TN

      [singing]

    9. JO

      Listen. If you listen to reggae right now-

    10. TN

      Let me tell you something now

    11. JO

      ... for the lyrics-

    12. TN

      [singing]

    13. JO

      ... you're listening, you're listening to it wrong.

    14. TN

      [singing]

    15. JO

      That's what I'm saying.

    16. TN

      [singing]

    17. JO

      Eugene, that's what I'm saying.

    18. TN

      [singing] Like, where, where did the sentence start?

    19. JO

      No, no, no. But-

    20. TN

      You brought me in with one thing

    21. JO

      ... no one listens-

    22. TN

      Just give me the light.

    23. JO

      But no one listens to-

    24. TN

      Yeah, yeah

    25. JO

      ... no, but no one listens to reggae for the rh-

    26. TN

      Just give me the light. Okay, give me the light. [singing]

    27. JO

      [laughs]

    28. TN

      [singing]

    29. JO

      You listen for the-

    30. TN

      [singing]

  3. 1:453:21

    Meet Joe Opio: Ugandan Comedy Legend

    1. TN

      of nowhere, okay? Which is a wonderful blessing, but you came out of nowhere because it was another friend's birthday.

    2. JO

      With a plastic bag.

    3. TN

      W- you came with a plastic bag full of-

    4. JO

      [laughs]

    5. TN

      ... [laughs] 0% alcohol.

    6. JO

      [laughs]

    7. TN

      [laughs]

    8. JO

      It's hard to get 0% Guinness.

    9. TN

      Yes. So you came with 0% alcohol.

    10. JO

      Which is like the ultimate-

    11. TN

      It was hard to carry it. [laughs]

    12. TN

      Which is like the ultimate-

    13. JO

      It was like a r- a reverse birthday gift, yes. Yes

    14. TN

      ... which is the ultimate, it's the ultimate, like, paradox.

    15. JO

      Yeah. [laughs]

    16. TN

      It's like someone who's like, "I came for the party, but I don't like parties."

    17. JO

      Yes, yes, yes.

    18. TN

      [laughs]

    19. TN

      Okay. So that's when you came. Now, because we all roll together, we are in this thing. So now I'll answer your question. So it's not an interview. W- I just wanted to hang out with Joe, right? And I was-

    20. JO

      Why are there cameras and-

    21. TN

      [laughs]

    22. TN

      [laughs]

    23. JO

      Or why... 'Cause you could have just... You assume he's one of your favorite people.

    24. TN

      Yes.

    25. JO

      So I assume that up until this point you've hung out.

    26. TN

      Yes.

    27. JO

      Cool. Now you decided to hang out. Are you going to hang... Like, can we-

    28. TN

      Okay, so now let me ask you this

    29. JO

      ... can we play table tennis now?

    30. TN

      Okay, so-

  4. 3:214:25

    Trevor’s Sex Tape Analogy for Recording Hangouts

    1. TN

      moments where you go, like, "This is why Joseph Opio is one of my favorite people."

    2. JO

      [laughs]

    3. TN

      We were talking about food and the swag you have in a restaurant when you no longer have... Like, if the, the menu, all the prices are something you can easily afford.

    4. JO

      Yes.

    5. TN

      There's, like, a-

    6. JO

      Yes

    7. TN

      ... there's nothing.

    8. JO

      Mm.

    9. TN

      So I was saying, remember the first time you didn't have to calculate.

    10. JO

      Mm.

    11. TN

      'Cause remember there was a moment where you'd order-

    12. JO

      Mm, mm, mm

    13. TN

      ... and you'd be like... They'd be like, "What would you like?" And then you knew what you liked, but what you were actually trying to think of was, "How do I, how do I add 35 to 47?"

    14. JO

      [laughs] The first time you didn't have to calculate, that was a canon event.

    15. TN

      Exactly.

    16. JO

      Yes.

    17. TN

      Exactly.

    18. JO

      It's also same as the first time you filled up the tank without-

    19. TN

      Yes.

    20. JO

      Yes.

    21. TN

      Yes, yes, exactly.

    22. JO

      It's, it's in the-

    23. TN

      Yes, yes, yes. It's in that same... Yes.

    24. JO

      Yes.

    25. TN

      Where you just go, "Fill it up."

    26. JO

      Just fill it up.

    27. TN

      Yeah.

    28. JO

      First click, let him go.

    29. TN

      So now we were talking about this-

    30. JO

      [laughs]

  5. 4:255:02

    First Time Not Calculating Menu Prices

    1. TN

      no. Joe, Joe.

    2. JO

      Yes, it's an iconic scene.

    3. TN

      Joe.

    4. JO

      It's the ultimate scene.

    5. TN

      Swordfish?

    6. JO

      Yes. If you're thinking of making a decision under so much pressure.

    7. TN

      My friend.

    8. JO

      He had a gun to his head.

    9. TN

      Mm-hmm.

    10. JO

      He had to hack into the system, and then he had a woman giving him head.

    11. TN

      Huh?

    12. JO

      Yes.

    13. TN

      That's why-

    14. JO

      No.

    15. TN

      Guys.

    16. JO

      That's why it's an iconic scene.

    17. TN

      You left that part out.

    18. JO

      Yes.

    19. TN

      All along we were talking about guns.

    20. JO

      Yes.

    21. TN

      People forget.

    22. JO

      Yes.

    23. TN

      Yes.

    24. TN

      Guns are common.

    25. JO

      That's the-

    26. TN

      More than guns.

    27. JO

      No, that's... He didn't let me, like, set up the thing.

    28. TN

      Now I know.

    29. JO

      I told him iconic scene.

    30. TN

      That's not what I'm saying.

  6. 5:026:09

    Joe’s Pressure Scene: Swordfish (That One)

    1. JO

      He had to hack-

    2. TN

      Hugh Jackman was getting a blowjob.

    3. JO

      Yes. And he had like-

    4. TN

      That's iconic

    5. JO

      ... he had, he had, like, a minute to hack into the system.

    6. TN

      Yes. You-

    7. JO

      The pressure he was under.

    8. TN

      You're not... Okay. You're not-

    9. JO

      I was saying, "Yes"

    10. TN

      ... you're not understanding what I'm saying.

    11. JO

      Yes.

    12. TN

      I'm not saying that your choice of scene is incorrect.

    13. JO

      Okay.

    14. TN

      I'm saying I have never in my life heard somebody go to Swordfish for... I've heard people say Mission Impossible.

    15. JO

      Mm-hmm.

    16. TN

      Pressure, action.

    17. JO

      Yes.

    18. TN

      I've heard people say The Matrix, action. I've heard people go Titanic. I've heard people go-

    19. JO

      Who, who in Titanic was m-

    20. TN

      There's-

    21. JO

      ... under the most pressure?

    22. TN

      You need... No, no, no.

    23. JO

      You need who?

    24. TN

      What I'm saying is, like, there are movies-

    25. JO

      Yes

    26. TN

      ... that are generally-

    27. JO

      Yeah. Go-to movies. Yes

    28. TN

      ... thought of as the go-to-

    29. JO

      Yes

    30. TN

      ... for, like, an example-

  7. 6:098:00

    The Great Swordfish Movie Debate

    1. TN

      gonna say, "To swordfish somebody is to just bring up the most random-

    2. SP

      [laughs]

    3. JO

      That's random

    4. TN

      ... instance. Yo, nobody knows Swordfish.

    5. JO

      Oh, come on.

    6. TN

      Do you know Swordfish? Do you remember Swordfish?

    7. JO

      Everyone knows this movie.

    8. SP

      I-

    9. TN

      Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, let's ask the man off camera.

    10. JO

      Yes, of culture.

    11. TN

      Yeah.

    12. SP

      I, I... You, you could use Swordfish, y- you could use was Hugh Jackman in Swordfish as a trivia question, and people would be, "For the 500,000 in Who Wants To Be a Millionaire," and we'd be like, "That's a good question."

    13. TN

      Yeah.

    14. SP

      Nobody knows Swordfish.

    15. TN

      No one knows that.

    16. JO

      Nah, because people are not cultured.

    17. TN

      Yeah. Well, are they d-

    18. JO

      I'm a, I'm a man of culture. I'm a, I'm, I'm a gentleman and a scholar, and I watch both prestige movies and, you know... I don't s-

    19. TN

      I believe you. I believe you.

    20. JO

      The thing, the thing is, it's the scene that comes to mind. There's no other scene. Tell me of a- any other scene. Actually, it's also, it's also-

    21. TN

      A precious scene

    22. JO

      ... it's also the only scene that's memorable from the movie.

    23. TN

      Where Hugh Jackman gets a blowjob ever in his career.

    24. JO

      While, while-

    25. TN

      While hacking

    26. JO

      ... it's the context, and having a gun to his head.

    27. TN

      And he's got 60 seconds.

    28. JO

      Yes. He is-

    29. SP

      You're the worst.

    30. JO

      No. Wait, once I gave it context, though-

  8. 8:009:00

    Joe’s Wild Taste in Movies & Books

    1. TN

      taste, and-

    2. SP

      Is this question to Joe or to me?

    3. TN

      No, to Joe.

    4. JO

      [laughs]

    5. SP

      [laughs]

    6. TN

      You don't have broad taste at all.

    7. JO

      [laughs] Yeah. The- yours is very niche.

    8. TN

      You don't have broad taste at all.

    9. JO

      Yes. Mm-mm.

    10. TN

      This guy. You d- you-

    11. JO

      That, that Joe... That is so niche, sometimes it comes off as pretentious.

    12. TN

      This is... Can I tell you?

    13. JO

      Yes.

    14. TN

      This is gonna be the weirdest podcast, 'cause people are gonna go like, "What, what is that other person?"

    15. JO

      [laughs]

    16. TN

      And then I don't even know how we explain it.

    17. JO

      [laughs]

    18. TN

      So if you're watching or listening to this, you're going, "What is happening?"

    19. JO

      [laughs]

    20. TN

      I'll tell you what's happening. There's a Ugandan here.

    21. JO

      [laughs]

    22. TN

      Then there's another Ugandan who's also a South African, and, but he's not with us here.

    23. JO

      Now you make it seem like he's chain migrating.

    24. SP

      Why are you making- [laughs]

    25. JO

      I ca- I came for this podcast-

    26. TN

      For real

    27. JO

      ... and I brought a Ugandan context

    28. TN

      ... and you got some plants. Like we are-

    29. SP

      Yes, that's what it feels like. That's what it feels like.

    30. JO

      [laughs]

  9. 9:0011:23

    Ugandan Accents & Trevor’s Savage Impressions

    1. JO

      Then Kaluuya, and then it's a case.

    2. TN

      [laughs] So-

    3. SP

      Hm

    4. TN

      ... so the reason is... I'll tell you why it's not a question to you.

    5. JO

      Oh.

    6. TN

      Is because you are not, you are not broad at all.

    7. SP

      No, only because I have the answer.

    8. JO

      [laughs]

    9. TN

      For him?

    10. JO

      Yes.

    11. TN

      No, wait. First I wanna hear his answer.

    12. JO

      Okay.

    13. TN

      Then I wanna see what you...

    14. SP

      Okay.

    15. TN

      Okay, so-

    16. SP

      Give your answer.

    17. JO

      Okay, so for me-

    18. SP

      Then I'll tell my answer

    19. JO

      ... I don't think I made a delib- I, I don't want to be put in a box, if that makes sense. So I-

    20. TN

      So you, you'll purposely watch a terrible movie-

    21. JO

      No, no, I don't... That's what I'm saying. I don't think I made a deliberate choice.

    22. TN

      Okay, got it.

    23. JO

      'Cause I think, like, art in its very nature, or, like, things can be appreciated regardless of the, can we say standard or quality. Like, so Swordfish, not the greatest movie in the world-

    24. TN

      Yeah

    25. JO

      ... but it had its moments. It's complex, almost. Art is c- it's almost like people.

    26. TN

      Mm.

    27. JO

      If that makes sense.

    28. TN

      Yeah.

    29. JO

      People can be appreciated because they have different, they bring, like, different nuances to everything. So a bad movie can have a great scene.

    30. TN

      Mm.

  10. 11:2318:31

    Food Falling From the Sky in Uganda

    1. JO

      And I'm like, "No, you have an accent." 'Cause-

    2. TN

      You're not wrong

    3. JO

      ... yes, 'cause in my mind, when I speak, I sound like, I sound, I sound like Hugh Grant right now. When I'm, when I'm talking right now-

    4. TN

      In fact, you're like, you should go to-

    5. JO

      Yes

    6. TN

      ... Uganda and hear those-

    7. SP

      No, but what's crazy is, like-

    8. JO

      When I'm talking right now-

    9. SP

      ... he's like, "I sound like Hugh Grant."

    10. JO

      I sound like, yes, I sound like an English aristocrat.

    11. TN

      No, and can I tell you something? If... I- I've seen your... So, so I've seen your writing, and we'll go through this in stages. So I'll, I'll actually, we'll, we'll get back to this story. But in writing, because this man sitting here has a vocabulary that surpasses any human being I've met in my life. Like, personally, pers- that I know.

    12. JO

      Mm-hmm.

    13. TN

      I, I don't know everyone in the world. This guy here, if I'm looking for a word, searching for a sentence, trying to fix grammar or structure, this person here knows more about the English language than anyone I've ever met, right?

    14. JO

      Yeah. Mm-hmm.

    15. TN

      So I get what you're saying. When you right now, what you- What we heard was you, and then what you heard on the mic was you going, "I, I don't understand why anybody thinks-

    16. SP

      [laughs]

    17. TN

      ... I have an accent."

    18. SP

      [laughs]

    19. TN

      So in fact, in fact-

    20. JO

      Uh, no

    21. TN

      ... when you, when you think about Swordfish-

    22. SP

      [laughs]

    23. TN

      When you think about Swordfish-

    24. JO

      In my mind

    25. TN

      ... in my mind-

    26. JO

      Let me tell you. The funny thing is-

    27. TN

      Let me tell you. The funny thing is-

    28. JO

      The funny thing is, when I had Trevor-

    29. TN

      The funny thing is-

    30. JO

      When I... Because Trevor does impressions.

  11. 18:3121:21

    Mistaken for Child Soldier at Idris Elba Premiere

    1. JO

      Nation.

    2. TN

      Beasts of No Nation.

    3. JO

      I can never forget. Yes.

    4. TN

      So if I remember correctly-

    5. JO

      [laughs]

    6. TN

      ... the movie was on Netflix, wasn't it?

    7. JO

      Ended up on Netflix.

    8. TN

      Okay.

    9. JO

      But they, they had a screening.

    10. TN

      Okay. Okay, yeah. So-

    11. JO

      'Cause if you're a member of the Writers Guild, you're invited to screenings.

    12. TN

      Yes.

    13. JO

      So that you can vote for the Oscars, you know.

    14. TN

      Yeah.

    15. JO

      And so I turn up to watch the movie. Brilliant movie. Loved it. Then we go... 'Cause at the screening, then they have, like, a party afterwards.

    16. TN

      Yeah. And, and then every-

    17. JO

      Like a reception.

    18. TN

      Yeah. And the movie, for those who don't remember-

    19. JO

      Yes

    20. TN

      ... was Beasts of No Nation was a movie about Idris Elba being like a war-

    21. JO

      A warlord. Yeah

    22. TN

      ... like a warlord, and he had a bunch of child soldiers.

    23. JO

      Yeah.

    24. TN

      And that was, like, the s-

    25. JO

      Yes

    26. TN

      ... that's basically the, the story.

    27. JO

      Yes.

    28. TN

      Okay.

    29. JO

      So then we go to the reception, and then I notice there's this couple that keeps looking at me.

    30. TN

      Hmm.

  12. 21:2125:55

    Baby’s Day Out Bigger Than Star Wars

    1. JO

      about... " And I go like, "'Cause when I was in Uganda, when I watched the news, when they go, like, foreign news, it's America, it's Britain, it's South Africa. When I'm reading a newspaper, when they go like, oh, international news, it's South Africa, it's Britain, it's... " But when you're in America, 'cause Americans are always going like, "Oh, we feel ignorant. We don't know as much about Uganda." Then I go like, "It makes sense. When you're watching news, when they go foreign news, it's not always Uganda. Maybe every once in a while, but it's France, it's other countries."

    2. TN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    3. JO

      'Cause you guys are a big culture. So remember in What Work, and I was talking about how when we were growing up we watched The Daily Show, and I told them us growing up, the most iconic movie in Uganda was Baby's Day Out.

    4. TN

      [laughs]

    5. JO

      Baby's Day Out was bigger than Star Wars.

    6. SP

      Wait, what is Baby's Day Out?

    7. JO

      It's... [laughs] How do I explain it?

    8. SP

      Sorry, I wasn't in Uganda.

    9. JO

      Yes. So-

    10. SP

      What happens?

    11. JO

      Well, it's this movie about a baby. It's, it's almost-

    12. SP

      Ah.

    13. JO

      So, yes. [laughs]

    14. SP

      [laughs]

    15. JO

      It's almost like, it's almost like a rip off of Home Alone.

    16. SP

      Yes.

    17. JO

      But it's, like, a toddler, like, crawling, and then these people are trying to kidnap him, and then he... And it was a huge movie in Uganda because the comedy stemmed from the physicality of it.

    18. TN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    19. SP

      Oh.

    20. JO

      You didn't have to know English.

    21. SP

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JO

      You didn't have to... So I told people at The Daily Show this movie was bigger than Star Wars, and they couldn't believe it. And then we went on Wikipedia, and it turns out even in India, that movie spent more time in cinemas-

    23. TN

      Baby's Day Out

    24. JO

      ... spent more weeks in cinemas than Star Wars. And Americans, their minds were blown. They were like, "We didn't even... This was a B..." Like, you know, movies that go straight to video.

    25. TN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. Straight to, straight to VHS.

    26. JO

      Yeah. And I, and I, and I, I told them, "That kid is an icon in Uganda. I would rather have his autograph than Harrison Ford or-"

    27. TN

      Yeah.

    28. SP

      Or Gene Hackman.

    29. JO

      Yes. So it's that. Like, you are s- you are forced to consume Star Wars, but then also you are forced to consume... So Americans understand Jackie Chan, 'cause Jackie Chan is big in America, but he was huge in Africa.

    30. TN

      Yeah.

  13. 25:5530:05

    South African Twitter Vernac Beef

    1. TN

      It's Peter Dinklage.

    2. JO

      Look at you being cultured, yes.

    3. TN

      Trying.

    4. JO

      Yes.

    5. TN

      Trying.

    6. JO

      Not Swordfish, but okay.

    7. TN

      Yes. So I was... So we're trying. So we go and watch Shakes- Every sentence started in the kind of English that I know.

    8. JO

      Okay.

    9. TN

      And then it ended in, like, some Shakespearean stuff-

    10. JO

      Yes

    11. TN

      ... that didn't make any sense. You know what I mean?

    12. JO

      Okay. Mm-hmm.

    13. TN

      I didn't see one person saying, "Why do they do that? Why did Shakespeare do that?"

    14. JO

      Because it was still English.

    15. TN

      No, but he made up words. There's random words that weren't English-

    16. JO

      Yes

    17. TN

      ... that he made

    18. JO

      ... he was, he was a wordsmith. That's what-

    19. TN

      Cockle popcorn.

    20. JO

      Yeah. No, that's what, that's what a wordsmith does. But I'm saying-

    21. TN

      Yeah, so-

    22. JO

      ... you guys begin in one. You know-

    23. TN

      Yes

    24. JO

      ... you know, it's almost like-

    25. TN

      So let me explain why.

    26. JO

      Okay.

    27. TN

      Let me explain why. So since you wanted to take it there. There's a thing called apartheid, Joe.

    28. JO

      Okay.

    29. TN

      Okay?

    30. JO

      Seems I missed out. Okay. [laughs]

  14. 30:0533:05

    Trevor Defends Code-Switching with Sean Paul

    1. TN

      seem like I did not miss yet

    2. JO

      ... listen, if you listen to reggae, ragga-

    3. TN

      Let me tell you something now

    4. JO

      ... for the lyrics-

    5. TN

      Give me the popping now, like, well, give me the pop in now, like, well

    6. JO

      ... you're listening, you're listening to it wrong

    7. TN

      ... give me the, give me the block.

    8. JO

      That's what I'm saying.

    9. TN

      See when I be, block when they come, now give me up.

    10. JO

      [laughs] Eugene, that's what I'm saying.

    11. TN

      And now they stop, now give love.

    12. JO

      [laughs]

    13. TN

      Like, where did, where did the sentence start?

    14. JO

      No, no, no.

    15. TN

      But you brought me in with one thing.

    16. JO

      But no one listens-

    17. TN

      Just give me the light

    18. JO

      ... but no one listens to-

    19. TN

      Yeah, yeah

    20. JO

      ... no, but no one listens to reggae for the rhythm.

    21. TN

      Just give me the light. Okay, give me the light. Just give me the... Then they... Then they blop, then they fresh me and lop

    22. JO

      You listen for the-

    23. TN

      No, blep, blep

    24. JO

      ... you listen for the beats

    25. TN

      Yes, blep, blep

    26. JO

      No one listens to-

    27. TN

      Yeah

    28. JO

      ... come on. Yeah.

    29. TN

      So, so that-

    30. JO

      Hmm

  15. 33:0545:02

    How Trevor & Joe Met at Comedy Cellar

    1. SP

      just-

    2. JO

      [laughs]

    3. SP

      ... so in that vein, just to establish us so that we know, oh, okay.

    4. TN

      Okay.

    5. SP

      This is... 'Cause if, let's say Joe was your brother, then you could go, "This is my brother. A few antidotes for... an- anecdotes from me-"

    6. TN

      Also antidotes.

    7. JO

      Yeah.

    8. SP

      Oh, yes. That. You know, you know what I'm saying? This is my-

    9. JO

      The f- no, the funny thing is-

    10. SP

      This is my-

    11. JO

      ... I feel we're gonna have very conflicting-

    12. SP

      Okay. So here the way it is, you just brought some cab driver from New York.

    13. TN

      [laughs]

    14. JO

      [laughs]

    15. SP

      Put him at the table, and are interviewing him. So that's the feeling we're getting. Lost in space.

    16. JO

      You know what, you know what it sounds like?

    17. TN

      Cab driver.

    18. JO

      It sounds like Tre- it sounds like Dave is going, like, you need to esta- so that he... It feels like he thinks Ice might read this, and you need to establish the relationship. Yeah.

    19. TN

      No, no, no.

    20. JO

      He-

    21. TN

      I'll tell you what's happened. I'll tell you what happened. Dave h- has lived in New York for too long. And in New York, and in America-

    22. JO

      Oh

    23. TN

      ... the number one phrase people love asking is, "So how do you guys know each other?"

    24. JO

      Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

    25. TN

      So, like-

    26. JO

      Hmm

    27. TN

      ... how do you guys know each other?

    28. JO

      Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm.

    29. TN

      Like, where did you guys meet? So, like, how did you guys, how do you guys know each other?

    30. JO

      How do you know the birthday boy?

  16. 45:0255:50

    Joe Gives Notes to Louis C.K.

    1. JO

      Yeah, are you the one who gave Louis C.K...?" Then I go like, "Yeah, I told him how to change." Then he go like, "Oh, people have been texting me like, 'Yo, Trevor, there's an African African comedian. Forget you. This one sounds like an African African.'" [laughs]

    2. TN

      [laughs]

    3. TN

      [laughs]

    4. JO

      So then we... [laughs]

    5. TN

      [laughs]

    6. JO

      He goes like, "This one sounds like, yes, like he just jumped out of, like, you know, Coming to America or those movies." So then we go up, and then we start, like, talking.

    7. TN

      Are you still holding the jacket?

    8. JO

      No, no, I've given it back to him.

    9. TN

      Okay.

    10. JO

      Yeah, no, I'm not that kind of guy.

    11. TN

      'Cause Este made that mistake. [laughs]

    12. JO

      [laughs] So then we go up, and this was around, like, 8:00, 8:30, and then we just start talking. And we talk, like, I think up to, like, 5:00.

    13. TN

      Hmm.

    14. JO

      Just talking about soccer, life, comedy, and then you went like, "Oh, this was fun. We should do it again." Again, critical mistake, 'cause I'm there every night. Comes back the next night. We hang out, and that's when you told me about Dave. You went like, "Oh, no, I contacted Dave. Oh, and Dave thinks you're a cool guy, a good guy. You know, we're all good people. Oh, we should hang out." And I feel like that's when we started to hang out, and then that's when we had the incident with Neil Brennan.

    15. TN

      Yeah, but pause there. So I'll, I'll tell you how this unfolded for me.

    16. JO

      Hmm.

    17. TN

      Okay. So I was born a wee lad-

    18. JO

      [laughs]

    19. TN

      [laughs]

    20. TN

      ... in South Africa.

    21. JO

      In a haggis port land, yes.

    22. TN

      On a rainy, rainy Monday.

    23. JO

      [laughs]

    24. TN

      Ah, they say that my mother turned to me as I came out of her womb.

    25. JO

      [laughs]

    26. TN

      [laughs]

    27. TN

      No. [upbeat music] This is, from my side of the story, this is what happened.

    28. JO

      Yeah.

    29. TN

      I, we used to go to the Comedy Cellar all the time. I'm doing my thing. All of a sudden, I start getting texts from random people. "Yo, is this guy your friend? Yo, who's this guy?" Basically, every text, it's basically, "Come get your mans."

    30. JO

      [laughs]

  17. 55:501:05:26

    The Baby-Throwing Park Panic

    1. JO

      Africa that-

    2. TN

      Yeah, but even, even baby dynamics.

    3. JO

      No, no. I, I... 'Cause I know one thing about babies. I've had, like, I have a niece, a... So kids j-

    4. TN

      Kids love to play

    5. JO

      ... so the thing, the thing I love with n- with kids-

    6. TN

      Mm

    7. JO

      ... is what you see is what you get. They're not like adults.

    8. TN

      Yes.

    9. JO

      You have fun with them. They give... So w- I had, I had-

    10. TN

      I'm, I'm actually thinking about the babies

    11. JO

      ... listen, I had another experience like that. So I was at a-

    12. TN

      You've done it again?

    13. JO

      No, no, no. I was at a park.

    14. TN

      Oh my goodness.

    15. JO

      [laughs] 'Cause it's, it's instinctive. Listen, I was at a park with-

    16. TN

      Kesh Patel

    17. JO

      ... listen, I was-

    18. TN

      We don't know this guy.

    19. JO

      [laughs] At FBI.

    20. TN

      What the...

    21. JO

      At Steven Miller.

    22. TN

      What are you... Oh.

    23. JO

      At-

    24. TN

      Two failed attempted human trafficking.

    25. JO

      At, at White House.

    26. TN

      Come. No.

    27. JO

      [laughs] I'm out.

    28. TN

      My visa is still two years.

    29. JO

      I don't want to be, I don't want to be... [laughs] No, here's the thing. So we were at the park. I was with a friend who has kids, you know, cut, right? You know, cut, r- r- right. And we, we... So this kid, you know, who's on-

    30. TN

      Who's we?

  18. 1:05:261:08:14

    Why Joe Is Never Upset

    1. JO

      walk in at 4:00. This game was supposed to start at 2:00, and Trevor and Dave walk in full of apologies. And then I go like, "Why are you guys apologizing?" Like, 'cause other people would be upset, and Trevor tells me, "Oh, people will be upset because we made a plan. You're supposed to watch." Then I'm like, why though? Like, why would they be upset? Like, you and Dave wanted to watch the game. We planned to watch the game, but you didn't show up in time, on time. That means something more urgent came up or you were held up. You are not hiding somewhere around the corner going like, "Ooh, let's make Joe wait." Something else came up. And then Trevor goes like, "Ah, but I don't... But, you know, other people will be upset. You know, maybe disrespecting."

    2. TN

      This was your good Trevor, yeah?

    3. JO

      Yes.

    4. TN

      That's him.

    5. JO

      Yes. Maybe-

    6. TN

      That's-

    7. JO

      Maybe disrespect... Then, then-

    8. TN

      Joe, yeah

    9. JO

      ... then again, then I told him, "No. Why would, why would they be-"

    10. TN

      Do that, do that apology. Sorry. Sorry.

    11. JO

      So Trevor is going like, "Oh, other people feel, feel res- disrespected, their time." Then I go like, "No, but it wasn't my time. It was your time. You basically-"

    12. TN

      You were the one who was not here.

    13. JO

      Yeah, no, no, you, you lent me your time. It wasn't... I, I, I'm not entitled to your time. You told me, "Let's meet at 2:00."

    14. TN

      Mm.

    15. JO

      But it wasn't my time. It was your time. You just lent it to me.

    16. TN

      Mm.

    17. JO

      But I was entitled to it. So then I go like, "I can't be upset. Let's... The game, the game, you recorded it." You remember? You went like, "Oh, I-"

    18. TN

      Yeah, yeah.

    19. JO

      So then we watched the game. And then I was... 'Cause for me, I don't understand why, like... So so- something small like that. Let's say I arrange a date with a girl and I t- I don't turn up on time. She shouldn't be upset. She should go like, "Oh, Joe wanted to have this date. Joe wanted to have this dinner with me, but for some reason he didn't. Something must have come up." Instead of putting yourself first, going like, "Me, me, me, I d- I got disrespected. Me, me, me, this and that," go like, "Oh, why did the other person not... " Because think about it this way. If you plan a dinner date or to watch a game, and then you don't turn up on time, and then I find out you were in an accident, I don't get upset Does that make sense?

    20. SP

      Mm-hmm.

    21. JO

      'Cause I stopped putting myself first.

    22. SP

      Mm.

    23. JO

      I stopped going like, "Oh, me, me." I started going, "Oh, my God. Are you okay?"

    24. SP

      Mm. Yeah.

    25. JO

      "Where are you?" Yeah, so for me, that's how I, that's how I look at most things. I don't sweat the small things. I remember when I told you about the relationship I have with my family, right, with my sisters and... 'Cause my s- my family, my siblings have access to all my money, to my bank accounts. Remember?

    26. SP

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JO

      I told you this, and then you went like, "What? What if they stole the money?" Now, I'm lucky that my family, we're very close-knit, but also you went like, "But what if?" Then I went like, I wouldn't sweat it. I genuinely wouldn't, 'cause I would go like, oh, they know they can ask me for the money. They know they have access to the money. So if they stole it, that means they were so desperate. Something must have come up, right? And I would rather they steal my money than go steal a stranger's money. 'Cause if they steal a stranger's money, now it's courts, now it's prison, now it's this. Now my mom is stressed, my dad is stressed. Now there's too much stress.

    28. SP

      Yeah.

    29. JO

      But if they

  19. 1:08:141:17:14

    Joe’s “Hashtag Winning” Philosophy

    1. JO

      steal my money, then I'll go like, oh, that means they needed it more than I needed it. I've a- I've had this same mentality when we were in school, boarding school in Uganda. People would go like, oh, like, you know, leaving your suitcase, like, they would pull, like-

    2. SP

      Lock them. Yeah

    3. JO

      ... lock them and everything. And I'd go like, "No. Why?" If someone, someone can approach me and ask me for something, if they feel the need to go and steal, which, you know, results in expulsion and suspension-

    4. SP

      Yeah

    5. JO

      ... they needed that thing. They really des- they need, they need that thing more than I needed it.

    6. SP

      Here's a question, then.

    7. JO

      So-

    8. SP

      Even in terms of, okay, let's just say okay, that I can get conceptually.

    9. JO

      Okay.

    10. SP

      But then how do you deal with, like, being a morning person? Do you know what I mean? Sometimes you're just in a bad mood because you didn't get enough sleep.

    11. JO

      I don't believe in the concept of so much sleep, and Trevor knows this, and you know this as well. 'Cause I go like, I'm winning so much at life, I don't want to sleep. 'Cause if you're sleeping, then you're not winning. You're just lying there.

    12. SP

      [laughs]

    13. JO

      You're not actively... No, no. No, sleeping is one of the only activities where you're not actively enjoying the thing. So when I'm watching a soccer game, I go like, "Wow, this is amazing." When I'm watching a Broadway show, I go... When I'm having a conversation, I'm eating food, I go like, "Oh, this is delicious. This is amazing." When I'm sleeping, I'm like this glass. I'm not actively enjoying the thing. Now, I understand the benefit of sleep. You're fresh and all this. But I'm going like, for me, sleeping is like being on social media. People who win are not on social media, 'cause they're busy winning at life. They're busy enjoying life.

    14. SP

      Hmm.

    15. JO

      Sleeping means... So me, when I was youn- when I was a bit, you know, in my teenage years, I also go like, "Yo, if I make it, I'll watch every show. I'll watch every, I'll read every book. I'll, you know, I'll do things." And now I'm at that stage in my life where I really could watch every show, because you're a member of the Guild. They give you all these screenings. I could read every book, 'cause I'm in New York, I can access them. The one thing I don't have is time. I don't have enough time to do it, 'cause you only have 24 hours in a day. So I want to spend a minimum of those hours sleeping. 'Cause sleep, you know, the-

    16. SP

      As little as possible

    17. JO

      ... as little as possible. 'Cause I have things to do. I have w-

    18. SP

      Yeah

    19. JO

      ... I, we, we play soccer up to 2:00. I have things to do. So sleeping, because it's the one thing I don't actively enjoy, is one thing... So I sleep, and Trevor knows this. I sleep. And you have seen me. We've gone on vacations.

    20. SP

      Yeah, yeah. No, Joe sleeps three, four hours.

    21. JO

      I sleep at most three hours a day. [laughs] Three hours a day.

    22. SP

      Yeah, he has... I, I think you have that gene that... I, I s- I spoke to a, um, [ts] uh, a doctor who works in, like, gene editing. Uh, and he told me that there's some people who are genetically predisposed to not needing sleep. I think you're one of those people, 'cause I've been with... Remember, we went to the World Cup together.

    23. JO

      We've gone to two only. Mm.

    24. SP

      So, yeah, two World Cups, actually.

    25. JO

      Yeah. Russia and Qatar. Mm.

    26. SP

      And, you know, people can tell you who they are all they want. When you spend almost 24 hours a day with them over a certain period of time, the cracks start to show. I went with this guy. We went to every game, and then we went to events afterwards, and then in the morning we did something else. And the, this man does not sleep, and he's fine with it. Like, three, four hours a night maximum. But more than that, to Dave's point, even when we couldn't get those hours' sleep, I was grumpy.

    27. JO

      I remember. [laughs]

    28. SP

      What, what did he sound like when he was grumpy?

    29. JO

      I remember. No, he would just refuse. We went shooting, and he just went like, "No, I'm done partying."

    30. SP

      Yeah, yeah.

  20. 1:17:141:28:19

    Joe’s Weird Hourly Alarm Sleep Hack

    1. JO

      which was illegal-

    2. TN

      [laughs]

    3. JO

      ... 'cause you couldn't bring in a radio, but we found a way. So BBC Sports was like, that was our thing, me and a group of other football, like soccer-loving guys. So we'd listen to BBC Sports to hear the roundup of the news, what happened in the Premier League, what happened in Champions League. Then from, it would end at around midnight thirty. Then from midnight thirty, everyone else is sleeping. Midnight thirty to, like, 3:00, now we are discussing what happened. You know soccer, like you discuss.

    4. TN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    5. JO

      So discussing, discussing, discussing. This was our moment where we went like, "Oh, now we're in control of our moment." And then we'd go to bed at around 4:00. Then you have to wake up at 6:00. And we used to do this 'cause BBC Sports was there every day.

    6. TN

      Yeah.

    7. JO

      And we used to do this every day. Now, I don't know whether the other guys kept it up.

    8. SP

      They're dead probably.

    9. JO

      [laughs]

    10. TN

      [laughs] Yes, but the th- the thing is you guys were able to do it as a group.

    11. JO

      Yes.

    12. TN

      So that's conditioning.

    13. JO

      I think I made it.

    14. TN

      Yes, guys. You, you're not hearing what I'm saying.

    15. JO

      Mm-hmm.

    16. TN

      I'm not disputing the merits of conditioning. It is possible for a human being to do things that they couldn't do before by doing something repeatedly. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there is an extra element-

    17. JO

      Mm

    18. TN

      ... that now creates what we call the super athlete or the... There'll be people who have memories that are outsized.

    19. JO

      100%.

    20. TN

      There are people who will be able to jump or run faster because their muscles twitch in a different way.

    21. JO

      Yes, yes.

    22. TN

      So I'm saying you have that for sleep. But what's more impressive to me, because genes are genes, you don't choose them. What's more impressive to me, and I think it's to what Dave was alluding to, is, you see, you, you dismissed it very quickly as like, "I have a positive attitude because my life's going well. I work at The Daily Show, and I live in America, and I, I got to do..." Yeah, but I'm like, but you've constantly taken that framing even when the winning is not apparent. Does that make sense? So now it seems obvious because you work at The Daily Show, and now it seems obvious because you work in New York and you're in America, and you, you, you... So then it-

    23. JO

      Well-

    24. TN

      ... it's like, oh, that's like an obvious.

    25. JO

      Mm-hmm. Mm.

    26. TN

      But if I took The Daily Show away from you-

    27. JO

      It would affect me, 'cause I was-

    28. TN

      You would still go-

    29. JO

      Yeah, I was me without The Daily Show

    30. TN

      ... you see?

  21. 1:28:191:45:38

    Joe’s Pep Talk That Saved Trevor

    1. TN

      the world that we're getting read..." Then I was like, "Yeah, but you guys are terrible." Then you're like, "Yeah, but oof, [inhales] that means we're gonna rebuild this." That's what... Do you understand what I'm trying to say right now?

    2. JO

      That is the... Yes. It's-

    3. TN

      Because, because now that's not a forg- that's not a foregone c- Th- there is no guarantee that Barcelona will get better

    4. JO

      ... No, I, I always look at it the same way. When, when we lost to Liverpool, remember?

    5. TN

      Yes.

    6. JO

      I go like, "Oh, but it was a great game." I don't... 'Cause, 'cause also soccer is entertainment. So for me, the way I look at it, I think you said it. I think I'm borrowing from... The thing you are doing at The Daily Show, I felt the thing you're doing at The Daily Show when everything wasn't going great, is you are complaining and bitching about a bird shitting on your Ferrari. But you have a Ferrari. How many other people would rather have... 'Cause you can clean the bird poo off the Ferrari.

    7. TN

      Yeah, you can, you can clean the bird shit off

    8. JO

      You still have the Ferrari. Yes.

    9. TN

      Yeah.

    10. JO

      How many other people would go like, "I would rather have that Ferrari with the bird poo, but at least I have a Ferrari"? So people mo- many times people focus on the bird poo instead of focusing on the Ferrari. And for me, I call it wasted stress.

    11. TN

      You call it what?

    12. JO

      Wasted stress.

    13. TN

      Yeah.

    14. JO

      Like, wasted stress. So when, for example, when I came to The Daily Show, there was a writer who came and told me she had been writing there seven years, and she told me every day when they gave her script to write, she thought it was the last day at work. She thought she would write such a bad script she would get fired. And I just go like, "So wait, you've done this for seven years. Every day of those seven years you haven't enjoyed this experience at all because you're stressed about losing this thing."

    15. TN

      Yeah.

    16. JO

      And I was like, "No." I told her, "No, if I lost The Daily Show, I would go like, 'Oh, thank God I'm going to get The Daily Show better.'" I look at it the way, if, if you dated Beyoncé, you can either spend the whole time, or if you're married to Beyoncé, you can e- either spend the whole time worrying that Beyoncé's going to dump you, or you can enjoy it and go like, "Hey, if Beyoncé dumps me, if Rihanna, Rihanna dumps me, I'll get something better than R- 'cause I could get Rihanna. Why do I think she's the best I can get? That means I can get the same or better." And so it's that. I feel like people spend... And I think it's also people do it because it's seen as a sign of adulting, like always worrying about stuff-

    17. TN

      Mm-hmm

    18. JO

      ... always being anxious, and I don't believe in that. Because my mom told me, "You should never grow up. You shouldn't-

    19. TN

      Mm.

    20. JO

      Until you've grown up, you should never grow up." And I'm like, "Oh, how will I know?" She was like, "You'll know. But don't grow up," 'cause we are always forced to grow up. Like, worry. In school, people always be worried. It's like, "You're a kid, why are you worried? Just enjoy this experience." Again, at The Daily Show, I remember, um, you hired this, uh, producer, and after two weeks she had never said anything in the meeting, and she comes to me and she goes like, "Yo, can I have a word?" And I went like, "Oh, what's up?" Then she went like, "How do you, how come you confidently pitch jokes and takes in a meeting, yet you have an accent? How come that doesn't, like, hold you back? 'Cause me, every time I try to say something, I start second-guessing myself. 'Oh, is it smart enough? Would I seem dumb? Oh, this...'" And then I told her, "I don't think about that. I feel like I belong in the room because I'm in the room. I don't feel any less smart because of my accent. I feel..." So then I told her, it's like, and again, wrong, wrong analogy. I said, I said, "It's like being on Epstein's island." No one is going around going like, "Hey, what do..." Everyone assumes you're a billionaire celebrity and you belong

    21. TN

      Was this the analogy you used then?

    22. JO

      I used the-

    23. TN

      This is-

    24. JO

      I used the analogy of like-

    25. TN

      We were-

    26. JO

      I used-

    27. TN

      Wow

    28. JO

      ... I used Illuminati

    29. TN

      ... this is-

    30. JO

      But-

  22. 1:45:381:54:00

    Joe’s Obsession: 25+ Cruises Explained

    1. JO

      then I turned up

    2. TN

      ... three years in, 12 cruises deep

    3. JO

      ... yes, I turned up and they went like, and because of probably the way I was dressed, 'cause it was cocktail, but I was dressed the way I want.

    4. TN

      [laughs]

    5. JO

      And I think they went like, "Oh, this must be one of the, you know, w-

    6. TN

      Somali pirates

    7. JO

      ... workers."

    8. TN

      Oh.

    9. JO

      Oh, yes. So, so, so I turn, and yeah, exactly.

    10. TN

      [laughs]

    11. JO

      Somali pirates raiding the ship. No, so I turn up, and then I was the only Black guy there.

    12. TN

      Hmm.

    13. JO

      One, I was the only guy under 40, and so they go like, "Whoa, so how did you end up..." They were, they were really surprised. And I, I, and I went like, "Every chance I get. Every chance I get."

    14. TN

      Hmm.

    15. JO

      So for me, I do this, and I do this with food as well. If I find something I enjoy, I do that thing and I, I will do it. I won't try to, like, venture out.

    16. TN

      Oh, you don't value add.

    17. JO

      Yeah. Same, same thing with, like, y- when I eat. When I, when I go out with you, I eat the same Indian food every time.

    18. TN

      Yeah.

    19. JO

      And you sometimes go like, "Oh, Joe, try." And I go like, "No, but I found the thing that I like."

    20. TN

      Yeah.

    21. JO

      So why should I try to ... I found the thing that works for me. And so I feel like it could also be, like, you know, when, when, when, the way I was brought up, 'cause my mom, again, to go back to her, so my mom taught me, like, certain things. One of the biggest lessons she gave me, I remember, one of the biggest lessons, and she doesn't even remember it 'cause mothers are like that. They say things and they don't think about them. So when we were teenagers, you know, you start sneaking around. Boys start sneaking around with girls, you know, corners around.

    22. TN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    23. JO

      Yeah.

    24. TN

      Yeah.

    25. JO

      And my mom, I remember, told me, and I was too young to even think about girls like that. And she was like, "Hey, if you ever want to get a girl, please don't be like these friends of yours who we see at the side of gates, you know, in dark corners. Bring the girl home. Bring the girl home and let's meet her." And sh- so she told me, "Whatever decision you make, it should always be for you."

    26. TN

      Hmm.

    27. JO

      That makes sense.

    28. TN

      Hmm.

    29. JO

      "Whatever decision," she told me, "You can, if you want to do drugs, if you want to rob a bank, if you want to beat up teachers, do it for you. I'll back you 100% of the way. The only thing I never want you to do is to try to pass the blame. So when you're, like, sowing, sowing, sowing, when the reaping comes, I don't want you to go like, 'Oh, I was peer pressured by my friends-

    30. TN

      Hmm

  23. 1:54:002:06:31

    Uganda’s Crazy Global History Moments

    1. JO

      leaving, a Ugandan sniper takes out the commander of the Israel commandos.

    2. TN

      Yo, what?

    3. JO

      He takes out Bibi Netanyahu's brother, and that's the incident that i- when you read Bibi Netanyahu's book, that's the incident-

    4. TN

      Mm

    5. JO

      ... that radicalized him.

    6. TN

      That's his villain, villain story.

    7. JO

      That's his-

    8. TN

      Yo

    9. JO

      ... origin story.

    10. TN

      What?

    11. JO

      That's his origin story. His brother was killed in Uganda 'cause he had come to rescue. The movie's v- th- this is a very huge ... If you talk about, if you talk to Jews-

    12. TN

      This is insane

    13. JO

      ... if you talk to Jews, this is a very big historical moment in their life, like, the raid on Entebbe. And now after all that, now Zoran is causing chaos.

    14. TN

      Mm.

    15. JO

      Where is he from? Uganda. For such a small country, we always ... So now, and then n- next thing you hear Trump. Most people don't know this, the story about Uganda. Uganda was supposed to be the next Palestine. It's ... It ... I think it came down to one vote. The Zionist, you know-

    16. TN

      Yeah

    17. JO

      ... League sat and they went like, "Nope, we want to go to the country we're promised," and all that. But Uganda ... Be- because the British controlled Uganda, so they were, they were gonna go. And then now you have this, and then Bibi Netanyahu. So all this, Bibi Netanyahu, like, the pain he has, the radicalization, the monster he has become, is all because his brother, his oldest brother. You can imagine how, like-

    18. TN

      Damn.

    19. JO

      Yes.

    20. TN

      Damn, Uganda. Huh?

    21. JO

      You're not gonna believe thisss.

    22. TN

      [laughs]

    23. JO

      It's almost like Swordfish.

    24. TN

      [laughs] Oh, my goodness. No.

    25. JO

      Uganda is like, what's happening right now?

    26. TN

      There's gonna be some swordfish deaths.

    27. JO

      No, no, I'm, I'm-

    28. TN

      I'm loving it, man

    29. JO

      ... but also, like, but also, like, but also, like, look at the story we have with South Africa.

    30. TN

      Yeah.

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