Meet José Andrés - My Favorite People

1. 0:00 – 2:55

   The Beans That Started Everything

   1. TNTrevor Noah0:00

      [upbeat music] You land in the wrong place, in a football field in Jamaica. Here are people coming to the helicopter. You don't know their intentions. They don't know your intentions, and you trust that you can get them to sort of join your mission even in the few moments that you've been with them. W- w- where did you learn that? And then, and, and, and what do you think we should all be learning about how to trust people-

   2. JAJosé Andrés0:26

      Well, in-

   3. TNTrevor Noah0:26

      ... that we don't even know?

   4. JAJosé Andrés0:27

      It was 2010, Haiti, and I'm cooking there in a couple of, of, of, of places, you know. Hundreds of thousands lost their homes. The poor of the poor lost their homes, and so was all these, uh, little villages that they were being created temporary-

   5. TNTrevor Noah0:41

      Right

   6. JAJosé Andrés0:42

      ... housing, uh-

   7. TNTrevor Noah0:43

      This is after the earthquake

   8. JAJosé Andrés0:44

      ... with tents. After the earthquake.

   9. TNTrevor Noah0:45

      Yeah.

   10. JAJosé Andrés0:45

       And I was cooking. I was... That day was beans, a lot of beans. They were in season. I bou- I would buy every day. This is the early days. I was in the kitchen when, was me and two friends.

   11. TNTrevor Noah0:55

       Yeah.

   12. JAJosé Andrés0:56

       Um, I make these huge pots, with the help of local women, of beans, and at the end, with the help of the translator, they speak beautiful Creole there, and they come to me and they say, "José, they, they love that you are feeding them here every day, but they wanna tell you that they don't eat the beans the way you prepared them" [laughs]

   13. TNTrevor Noah1:14

       [laughs]

   14. JAJosé Andrés1:16

       And I'm like, "Man, they couldn't tell me before?"

   15. TNTrevor Noah1:19

       [laughs]

   16. JAJosé Andrés1:19

       And, and then I say, "Okay, how do you want them?"

   17. TNTrevor Noah1:23

       Oh.

   18. JAJosé Andrés1:23

       And there you have this two-star Michelin chef, um-

   19. TNTrevor Noah1:26

       [laughs]

   20. JAJosé Andrés1:27

       ... and, and they began singing, and we began smashing the beans until it became a puree. It took, it took two more hours or three.

   21. TNTrevor Noah1:34

       Oh.

   22. JAJosé Andrés1:34

       But at the end, you used to see the joy when the beans were finished. They sang amazing traditional Haitian songs-

   23. TNTrevor Noah1:40

       Yeah

   24. JAJosé Andrés1:40

       ... through the process, and they were doing the, the, the, the pois congo and this black bean stew with the rice the way they eat them, which is not a soup. It's not a cream. It's not a sauce. It's something else, but that's the way they eat it.

   25. TNTrevor Noah1:53

       That is the way they eat the food.

   26. JAJosé Andrés1:54

       And, and this to me, obviously, we are, was a big lesson because that's also the dignity we give, no? Even, uh, no matter how poor people may be, everybody has a way to eat.

   27. TNTrevor Noah2:06

       That's beautiful, man. [upbeat music] This is What Now? With Trevor Noah. [upbeat music] Let's do it. Vamos. Andale. Where do I find you coming from?

   28. JAJosé Andrés2:31

       Um, uh, I was at, uh, Austin, South by Southwest.

   29. TNTrevor Noah2:35

       Oh, yeah? What were you doing there?

   30. JAJosé Andrés2:38

       Um, I went to... Well, was excuse to promote this. Uh, quite frankly, I don't know why when I go sometimes, but I was doing something with Delta and Rivian, so.
2. 2:55 – 3:14

   Let's Go

   1. TNTrevor Noah2:56

      you have one of the most interesting lives in that I don't know where you've... Like, like, like were you ever a fan of Batman growing up?

   2. JAJosé Andrés3:05

      Yeah.

   3. TNTrevor Noah3:06

      You never knew if you were meeting Bruce Wayne or if you were meeting Batman 'cause Bruce Wayne was coming back from, like, a, a gala dinner-

   4. JAJosé Andrés3:12

      Yeah

   5. TNTrevor Noah3:13

      ... with the richest people in the

3. 3:14 – 5:12

   Bruce Wayne or Batman

   1. TNTrevor Noah3:14

      world, and then Batman was coming back from, you know, just having fought the Joker or Penguin in one of the worst parts of Gotham. I feel like that's, that's your life. When I think of Chef José Andrés, I go, "This man could either be coming to my podcast from a disaster somewhere in the world, or he's going there after this podcast, or he's coming from, like, one of the most exciting, luxurious experiences, or he's going there afterwards." Do you ever think about how, how extreme your life is in that regard?

   2. JAJosé Andrés3:43

      Yeah. It, yeah, it, it, it feels that way at times. A- and, and it's no easy at times. Um, uh, it's enjoyable, but, uh, I've been going in through the, the zone of... Like my wife always says, when I come back from any, any missions, I'm-

   3. TNTrevor Noah4:02

      Yeah

   4. JAJosé Andrés4:03

      ... it takes me weeks to put my brain back to normal.

   5. TNTrevor Noah4:07

      Oh, wow.

   6. JAJosé Andrés4:08

      Like, I'm... Like, uh, I get absent, or I'm on the phone all the time because I'm-

   7. TNTrevor Noah4:13

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can imagine

   8. JAJosé Andrés4:14

      ... I keep checking what's going on with the people that are left behind. And, and, but that's life itself, right? Uh, that's why, that's why, um, I enjoy every single second, a glass of wine, of, uh, the best wine in the world-

   9. TNTrevor Noah4:32

      Yeah

   10. JAJosé Andrés4:32

       ... or a wine from a small winery that the wine is under $5 and is delicious because it has a great people with great pride. But, uh, and I love my, my, my, my cooking. My way to, to, to feel wholly is just get in the kitchen, go to the market, chop, making sure I have all the ingredients I want, and I start cooking all day. And the way for me to give love to people, um, [laughs] can be very fattening because it's in the-

   11. TNTrevor Noah5:00

       [laughs]

   12. JAJosé Andrés5:00

       ... it's in the word, uh, in the form of, of food. But I have, I, I have a hard time, uh, forgetting, um, at least one part of my brain

4. 5:12 – 6:05

   The Brain That Won't Shut Off

   1. JAJosé Andrés5:12

      is always active in that sense.

   2. TNTrevor Noah5:13

      Yeah.

   3. JAJosé Andrés5:14

      Since the days I began, like so many other people around the world, uh, volunteering in a soup kitchen in Washington, DC.

   4. TNTrevor Noah5:21

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is, is that how it all began?

   5. JAJosé Andrés5:23

      Very much. Uh, 1993. This is World Central Kitchen, a fascinating place. But then, then cooking is one thing, but then when you go on the shelters or on the streets, and you even, uh, engage, uh, in conversations, and even people you get to know. And but then I go back to my beautiful house, in my apartment or in my beautiful new home, and I know it's gonna be people sleeping on the street that day. And sometimes you feel that moment that life is like a lottery, that some of us, we bought the winning ticket-

   6. TNTrevor Noah5:56

      Yeah

   7. JAJosé Andrés5:57

      ... and other people, other people don't even know there is a lottery.

   8. TNTrevor Noah6:00

      Damn.

   9. JAJosé Andrés6:01

      And life sometimes can be complicated like that. Uh,

5. 6:05 – 8:26

   Life Is a Lottery

   1. JAJosé Andrés6:05

      because sometimes people are put through moments in their life that maybe, maybe they made the wrong decision, and sometimes it's not even making the wrong decision

   2. TNTrevor Noah6:12

      Yeah, it's not even a decision

   3. JAJosé Andrés6:13

      You didn't even had an opportunity to make a decision

   4. TNTrevor Noah6:17

      Yeah

   5. JAJosé Andrés6:17

      I had a lot of chances to make decisions, and people that support me through those decisions

   6. TNTrevor Noah6:21

      Yeah

   7. JAJosé Andrés6:22

      And this was in the sea, in the streets, but right now, you know, I have a hard time just, uh, forgetting about what's going on in Ukraine, forgetting what is going on in Gaza, places I've seen. And, and your brain sometimes is kind of going through... You cannot suffer like the way those people are suffering.

   8. TNTrevor Noah6:42

      Right. Yeah, yeah

   9. JAJosé Andrés6:43

      But a part of your brain is almost trying to, to maybe understand what they're going through, and it's, it's difficult to forget sometimes. And, and, and that's why every time it's a moment to enjoy. Uh, also, that's why I like to enjoy it, because life is too short not to enjoy every moment you have the opportunity to do so. Uh, even the people in those areas, uh, you know, in Gaza recently we reached a million meals a day with more than 80 kitchens, and was like a celebration

   10. TNTrevor Noah7:12

       Right

   11. JAJosé Andrés7:12

       Everybody was celebrating. I know some people that were, "Why are you celebrating? The people of Gaza are going through..." Like, we're, we... I'm not celebrating. They are celebrating

   12. TNTrevor Noah7:23

       Yeah, yeah

   13. JAJosé Andrés7:23

       People forget that even in those moments of mayhem, people need celebrations-

   14. TNTrevor Noah7:28

       Yeah

   15. JAJosé Andrés7:29

       ... because it's the only thing that carries them-

   16. TNTrevor Noah7:31

       Yes

   17. JAJosé Andrés7:32

       ... to live another day-

   18. TNTrevor Noah7:33

       Yeah

   19. JAJosé Andrés7:34

       ... thinking that there is light at the end of the tunnel, that there is hope, that things may be terrible today, but things can maybe one day go back to where they were before.

   20. TNTrevor Noah7:45

       Yeah, I think the biggest misconception people have about other people who are struggling is that they don't have the full access to their humanity. Do you know what I mean? Like, people don't think that, like, a homeless person has friends. People don't think that somebody in a z- disaster zone has emotions. They, they tell a joke, they laugh with their friends. They, they ... A- and, and you, you literally see this on the ground. I, like, some of the conversations, you know, I've had with you have taken me on, on, on the most beautiful, wild, you know, and, and then sometimes sad rides because ... I, I love the fact that you brought up the lottery tickets, right? Because w- we don't even get a chance to buy

6. 8:26 – 9:35

   Disaster Zones Have Dance Parties Too

   1. TNTrevor Noah8:26

      it. Like, where are you born? Who are you born to? And then a bomb drops on where you live, or a hurricane hits, or an earthquake, and all of a sudden your whole world is gone, you know? Like, like literally your whole world has changed overnight, and now you are the person that you never thought you would be, and you don't have the most basic thing, which is a meal, and that's where, like, José Andrés comes in. I, I, I genuinely am always fascinated by your world because of that.

   2. JAJosé Andrés8:53

      Well, obviously in the old days it used to be me, because the organization was only one person. But now the organization, I would say it's, you know, we are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.

   3. TNTrevor Noah9:05

      Damn

   4. JAJosé Andrés9:05

      Uh, I would say that World Central Kitchen is, uh, uh, the biggest organization in the history of mankind. Uh, is, is bigger than any government, bigger than any, any ... bigger than the UN, bigger than any corporation. Uh-

   5. TNTrevor Noah9:21

      Yeah

   6. JAJosé Andrés9:21

      ... and when people ask me, "Well, I think you're overdoing it," and I say, "No, I'm not," because every, every restaurant and every food truck, uh, belongs to World Central Kitchen. Every, every

7. 9:35 – 12:33

   World Central Kitchen Is Bigger Than Your Government

   1. JAJosé Andrés9:35

      horse, boat, uh, helicopter, plane belongs to World Central Kitchen. Every gas station belongs to World Central Kitchen. Every canoe, uh, belongs to World Central Kitchen. Uh, every person that you see is part of World Central Kitchen.

   2. TNTrevor Noah9:49

      Yeah

   3. JAJosé Andrés9:50

      What happened? They don't know it yet. But in the way we arrive, it's like in an emergency, it's like almost you have to take ownership of everything you see, and put everything you see at the service of bringing aid to people.

   4. TNTrevor Noah10:04

      Hmm

   5. JAJosé Andrés10:04

      And when you think that way, everything is much simpler, because you come with the software, with the heart, with the brain, but it's all about software. What can we do with what we have? No be-

   6. TNTrevor Noah10:14

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

   7. JAJosé Andrés10:15

      ... no waiting for things to come, but what can we do with what we have on hand? And that way you start providing relief, uh, day one. In, in Gaza, before even we had huge quantities of, of food, uh, we realized that was fish farms, that they were not, uh, working anymore-

   8. TNTrevor Noah10:34

      Yeah

   9. JAJosé Andrés10:35

      ... very well, and the fish was going to be dying in few days. And we began buying from that fish farms, and we were giving grilled tilapia fish to everybody we were trying to help, uh, in Gaza. You see? We, World Central Kitchen, uh, adapts. Uh, the, the world is always gonna be full of issues, um, of problems, but we have to start changing our mind and seeing every situation as a way for you to come with a new idea.

   10. TNTrevor Noah11:03

       Hmm

   11. JAJosé Andrés11:03

       As a way for you to serve, to, to be creative enough.

   12. TNTrevor Noah11:07

       Yeah

   13. JAJosé Andrés11:07

       To don't follow the plan, because very often life, even if everybody's trying to put us in a, in a jacket, and this is the plan, and you have to follow the plan of life, very often life doesn't follow that plan.

   14. TNTrevor Noah11:21

       No, it doesn't

   15. JAJosé Andrés11:21

       But because we've all been trained through that plan, what we do? We freeze in adversity. What we need to start doing is embracing the complexities that life's puts in front of us, seeing them like a test of life, and start getting ready and trained to adapt to the circumstances where every chance is an opportunity for you to show the, the hidden side of yourself you didn't even knew existed. We all have that power.

   16. TNTrevor Noah11:49

       Yeah, yeah

   17. JAJosé Andrés11:50

       We only need to believe in that power.

   18. TNTrevor Noah11:52

       So, so help me understand how you do it on, on day one. Like, what, what's, what's ... I, I know there are some places in the world where you've, you've been with World Central Kitchen, and you've been feeding people for a very long time, because it's an ongoing disaster or, or a situation. But what's, what's the most recent where something happened acutely, like a, like an earthquake, or a hurricane, or something like that? And then just, just walk me through, like, the- 'Cause I realized I don't, I didn't, I don- I don't know this about your world. I understand that you're there. I understand that you set up kitchens. I understand that you help feed the people. You get locals to cook the food, and I wanna talk more about the why around that. But, but what do you, what do you do, like, from the very first moment that a disaster strikes? So what was

8. 12:33 – 14:44

   Hour One in Jamaica

   1. TNTrevor Noah12:33

      the most recent one that you had to, that you had to jump into?

   2. JAJosé Andrés12:35

      Well, um, uh, Jamaica was, was the latest one.

   3. TNTrevor Noah12:40

      Yes, yeah.

   4. JAJosé Andrés12:41

      The hurricane hit the western part of the island, the area that probably everybody knows, um, away from Kingston, the capital, which is, uh, Montego Bay-

   5. TNTrevor Noah12:53

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm

   6. JAJosé Andrés12:54

      ... and Negril, Blue Fields. And, and it's a part I kind of knew, knew well because a couple of times I went to, on vacation, invited by friends, in the southern part of Jamaica, uh, Blue Fields. And when that happens, um, it's kind of I was, I was thinking to escape that hurricane, because very much I've been in every single hurricane category three or, or above, uh, in the last 15 years [laughs] . And it's like, "Okay, I'm gonna take a vacation on this one," which is great news because it means we have great teams that know what to do.

   7. TNTrevor Noah13:27

      Yeah.

   8. JAJosé Andrés13:27

      But kind of, uh, my daughter Inés was like, "I think I'm gonna go," so this time I didn't go on my own. I kind of was following my daughter.

   9. TNTrevor Noah13:36

      That's amazing.

   10. JAJosé Andrés13:36

       Which by the way, she stayed i- there over, she stayed there over a month. Um, so I landed, and I joined the teams. Uh, by the time I landed in Kingston, we were already feeding, even without having boots on the ground because this is the wonderful thing of chefs and restaurants, that you are only a phone call away from knowing somebody that knows every chef and every restaurant anywhere in the planet.

   11. TNTrevor Noah14:02

       Yeah, yeah, but, but this is what I don't understand. Like, help, help me out. You see, you said, "We were feed- We were already feeding people," but this, this is what I don't get. We're watching the news, most of us. We see this terrible news that a, a hurricane has struck Jamaica. We see that it's ravaging the country. It's destroying, you know, infrastructure.

   12. JAJosé Andrés14:19

       But really-

   13. TNTrevor Noah14:19

       And then, and then the number one thing that starts to happen is people don't have meals. People don't have food, right? You said by the time you land there, your organization's already feeding the people.

   14. JAJosé Andrés14:27

       Yeah.

   15. TNTrevor Noah14:27

       What I'm, or-

   16. JAJosé Andrés14:28

       A- a- at, at the smallest scale.

   17. TNTrevor Noah14:29

       No, but still.

   18. JAJosé Andrés14:29

       In the beginning.

   19. TNTrevor Noah14:30

       No, but I'm still trying to understand. What, what is-

   20. JAJosé Andrés14:31

       I know they're already doing hundreds, few thousands of meals 24 hours out.

   21. TNTrevor Noah14:35

       Yeah, but, okay, but explain that process to me. I, I really wanna understand on, like, a logistical level. W- where does it even begin? Like, where does the food come

9. 14:44 – 17:53

   Where Does the Food Even Come From

   1. TNTrevor Noah14:44

      from? Who cooks the food? How does the food get to the people?

   2. JAJosé Andrés14:46

      I- i- in total destruction, obviously, it's, is, is never total n- destruction.

   3. TNTrevor Noah14:52

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

   4. JAJosé Andrés14:52

      It's something that may be functioning, and we always, and now as more and more that people know, um, uh, World Central Kitchen, sometimes even it'll be a restaurant that all of the sudden has the sign of World Central Kitchen-

   5. TNTrevor Noah15:08

      Oh

   6. JAJosé Andrés15:08

      ... but they're not even part of us.

   7. TNTrevor Noah15:10

      And that becomes your, your HQ.

   8. JAJosé Andrés15:11

      But, but kind of almost they are, but this happens in very, uh, uh, uh, beautiful ways.

   9. TNTrevor Noah15:16

      Yeah.

   10. JAJosé Andrés15:16

       Like, oh, my God, José, w- we are already there? Uh, is somebody you know? Or why call the teams? Is somebody ... Who, who is feeding there? Because I already got the, a tweet that we are feeding there. We don't know who the people is. That, that's the beauty of it.

   11. TNTrevor Noah15:32

       That's amazing.

   12. JAJosé Andrés15:32

       Means everybody has a call to action. They don't need to do it with us. They can do it on their own, but it's so, somehow World Central Kitchen is, is becoming this, this very unique thing. Like-

   13. TNTrevor Noah15:44

       It's becoming like-

   14. JAJosé Andrés15:44

       Yeah, like the Batman-

   15. TNTrevor Noah15:45

       It's becoming an idea

   16. JAJosé Andrés15:46

       ... like the Batman call.

   17. TNTrevor Noah15:47

       Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   18. JAJosé Andrés15:47

       It's an idea that takes over very quickly.

   19. TNTrevor Noah15:49

       Yeah, it's an idea now. Yeah.

   20. JAJosé Andrés15:49

       But really we are already near, and, and we start moving in. Um, we start moving in. Uh, in the case of Jamaica, uh, the roads were very complicated. The, the traffic pattern makes everything very complicated.

   21. TNTrevor Noah16:01

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JAJosé Andrés16:02

       Uh, between the trees down and the electric, uh, poles down, uh, Jamaica in that part, fairly complicated to move around, no? Very narrow-

   23. TNTrevor Noah16:12

       Yeah, yeah, yeah

   24. JAJosé Andrés16:13

       ... uh, roads, and all of the sudden everybody, between the people are trying to help, the people are trying to leave, the people are trying to check their loved ones. It's chaos, and if you have to be doing anything, uh, from, from supporting hospitals to food to water, complicates the whole thing, and especially as you began increasing the number of meals, 1,000, 5,000, 20,000, 100,000. So we need helicopters. Why? Because with the helicopters in a very mountainous kind of area-

   25. TNTrevor Noah16:44

       Right

   26. JAJosé Andrés16:44

       ... of Jamaica, we are able to land in the middle of somewhere.

   27. TNTrevor Noah16:48

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JAJosé Andrés16:48

       And from, uh, that helicopter, already with locals that we find or cars of ours that they are sent six hours before waiting for the helicopter.

   29. TNTrevor Noah16:59

       Yeah.

   30. JAJosé Andrés16:59

       You know, if we were waiting all day for the food to be ready, then it takes forever to get to the people. We can go in the middle of the night where is not so much traffic. We are already waiting in place. The cooks already have time to, they start early in the morning preparing the tens of thousands of meals. They fill up the helicopters. We already know where the helipads are. The cars are waiting there. The helicopter lands. We fill up the cars. We start going into the communities. For first time, it's what we call first contact, but there we start meeting the local leaders. Um, they can be a pastor, can be somebody that becomes the unlikely leader of his community.
10. 17:53 – 19:16

    Empty Helicopters Don't Fly Empty

    1. TNTrevor Noah17:53

       have an empty leg going one way. Okay.

    2. JAJosé Andrés17:55

       And this begins happening hundreds of times a day. Before you know, we understand the real need. We are able to increase the number of meals-

    3. TNTrevor Noah18:04

       Yeah

    4. JAJosé Andrés18:04

       ... accordingly, and we will use every, every possibility and, and, and resource. In, in Kingston, we were buying from every bakery that was making the Jamaican Patties.

    5. TNTrevor Noah18:16

       Oh, yeah, the little patties. Yeah.

    6. JAJosé Andrés18:17

       The patties who are, like, the best, became the best way to start delivering Food quick and fast

    7. TNTrevor Noah18:24

       Yeah

    8. JAJosé Andrés18:25

       Then we began moving. We saw which one are the restaurants closer to ground zero, the your chicken place, the other place that they specialize in this special rice. Okay, uh, how many can you do? 5,000. Okay. When we see that they do 5,000 well, "Hey, can you increase to 10,000?" A- a- and we do the same with many other restaurants. We will open our own kitchens because we like to have also World Central Kitchen.

    9. TNTrevor Noah18:48

       Yeah

    10. JAJosé Andrés18:48

        Um, um, uh, give us a lot of power to be able to deliver food 24/7.

    11. TNTrevor Noah18:53

        Right, right, right.

    12. JAJosé Andrés18:53

        But between the local partners, the local restaurants, that is great because we began channeling money through the local economy, buying locally, not trying to bring food from overseas, but even if the food comes from, from overseas, because Jamaica imports food, but also they have a lot of farms. We make sure that also the guys that do all, all the knowhow of importing, distribution,

11. 19:16 – 21:09

    The Jamaican Patty Strategy

    1. JAJosé Andrés19:16

       we began ordering from them because we are telling them, "I know the country seems is stopping, but actually we don't need you to stop. We need you to keep doing what you do." With this, helping us put in place all the systems of distribution so things will look like normal, quicker and faster. So in a way, what we are not only people that cook, but people w- that we began the redistribution, the logistics of making sure that things go back to normal faster and quicker. This is the way that through one plate of food, we kind of ignite this kind of-

    2. TNTrevor Noah19:50

       Yeah

    3. JAJosé Andrés19:50

       ... willingness of everybody to say, "Oh man, we're gonna put this country up and running quicker than anybody." And then everybody joins in our very simple mission, which is food to everybody as quick as we can. In the present, something magic happens. We began helping the fishermen. We buy them boats. We buy them nets. We buy them whatever they lost.

    4. TNTrevor Noah20:08

       Right

    5. JAJosé Andrés20:08

       The fishermen, before you know, they are fishing quicker and faster that if we didn't help them.

    6. TNTrevor Noah20:13

       Right

    7. JAJosé Andrés20:13

       All of a sudden, we are buying fish from them. All of a sudden, we are putting that very poor fishing village already up and running in the middle of the emergency. This is very much what World, World Central Kitchen, uh, does. [laughs]

    8. TNTrevor Noah20:27

       You know, when you're speaking, I was, I was thinking to myself, there's a conversation I had with, um, Rutger Bregman. I don't know if you're familiar with him. He's a, he's a Dutch writer. Really, really fascinating thinker, and, and one of the things ... He, he was the guy who went to Davos, and he said in the room, he said to all the billionaires there, "Why are we-"

    9. JAJosé Andrés20:44

       Yeah

    10. TNTrevor Noah20:44

        "... talking about solving the world's problems as if not paying taxes is not one of the problems?" You know, and he talked to the room about that. And, and the conversation we had, and it's an organization that he started now, is he said, "One of the biggest issues we have in the world is you have some of the greatest thinkers who are being sucked into industries that are really meaningless." You know? He said, "You've got great thinkers, and they come out of the best schools. But all

12. 21:09 – 22:36

    This Man Is a General

    1. TNTrevor Noah21:09

       they do is go into a world where it's like, it's about making money, but not making an impact." And while you were speaking now, I, I've never noticed this about you, and I've known you for a long time, my friend, I really have. I was like, "This man is a general." It's just, thank God you didn't go into, like, war.

    2. JAJosé Andrés21:25

       [laughs]

    3. TNTrevor Noah21:25

       But you went, you went into, like, the war of feeding people instead of, like, bombing. D- d- does that make sense? Everything you said to me sounds like a general working, trying to fight a war, but it's like a good war. You go, "I need these people on the ground. I need to set up that kitchen there. I need the helicopters coming in and taking the people who are injured out. I need helicopters bringing in supplies. I need to figure out a way to fix the roads. Let's get the locals involved. Let's move." It's amazing.

    4. JAJosé Andrés21:48

       Yeah, but, but-

    5. TNTrevor Noah21:48

       Like, where did you, where did you get that from?

    6. JAJosé Andrés21:50

       But I'm, um ... Well, I, I, I, I did service in the military-

    7. TNTrevor Noah21:53

       Ah

    8. JAJosé Andrés21:54

       ... of Spain.

    9. TNTrevor Noah21:54

       Well, there you go. Maybe this is it.

    10. JAJosé Andrés21:56

        I served in the-

    11. TNTrevor Noah21:56

        No, I think it's your personality

    12. JAJosé Andrés21:57

        ... I was in the Spanish Navy. I, for me, this was very important in my life.

    13. TNTrevor Noah22:01

        Yeah

    14. JAJosé Andrés22:02

        I was cooking for the admiral, and I told him, "I love to cook for you. It's an honor," in his house. But my dream was going in a boat, and not on any boat. I want to go in the Juan Sebastián Elcano, named after the first person that finished the circumnavigation of the earth-

    15. TNTrevor Noah22:21

        Of the globe

    16. JAJosé Andrés22:21

        ... after Magellan-

    17. TNTrevor Noah22:22

        Right

    18. JAJosé Andrés22:23

        ... passed away. Was his second in command. So the boat is a four-mast tall ship, um, that had, uh, 300 crew members-

    19. TNTrevor Noah22:33

        Okay

    20. JAJosé Andrés22:33

        ... and trains the midshipmen of the Spanish Navy.

13. 22:36 – 27:38

    The Spanish Navy Made Him

    1. JAJosé Andrés22:36

       He put me on the boat, uh, after my request. First time I left Europe, first time I visit Abidjan, Ivory Coast, and I had cajun in the streets of Abidjan. First time I visit Rio de Janeiro, and I remember visiting the favelas and the fascinating world that opened, and my first caipirinha, and visiting Dominican Republic.

    2. TNTrevor Noah22:57

       That first caipirinha is something.

    3. JAJosé Andrés22:58

       Oh my God.

    4. TNTrevor Noah22:59

       Let me tell you something.

    5. JAJosé Andrés22:59

       Oh my God. Jes-

    6. TNTrevor Noah23:00

       That first caipirinha is something

    7. JAJosé Andrés23:01

       ... changes your life forever. [laughs]

    8. TNTrevor Noah23:02

       Let me tell you something. I don't think there's a person on this planet who doesn't remember their first caipirinha.

    9. JAJosé Andrés23:08

       Oh.

    10. TNTrevor Noah23:08

        The, the sugar, the lime.

    11. JAJosé Andrés23:10

        Oh.

    12. TNTrevor Noah23:10

        The way it hits. There's something in a caipirinha that-

    13. JAJosé Andrés23:12

        So fresh

    14. TNTrevor Noah23:13

        ... there's something in that drink.

    15. JAJosé Andrés23:15

        Yeah, you got it.

    16. TNTrevor Noah23:16

        Let me tell you.

    17. JAJosé Andrés23:16

        Cachaça.

    18. TNTrevor Noah23:16

        There's something-

    19. JAJosé Andrés23:18

        Ca-

    20. TNTrevor Noah23:18

        ... in a caipirinha

    21. JAJosé Andrés23:18

        ... cachaça to rule the world. I'm telling you.

    22. TNTrevor Noah23:21

        [laughs]

    23. JAJosé Andrés23:21

        So Dominican Repub- first time I came America, Pensacola, one of the five flags. They celebrate the five flags. Uh, one of them, the Spanish American flag, and it's like, "Okay, I belong here." Uh, New York, um, Ellis Island, Lady Liberty, that really, um, marked me.

    24. TNTrevor Noah23:39

        Right.

    25. JAJosé Andrés23:40

        But what it really had a big effect on me was this way of against currents and winds, 300 people, uh, working together. You could go through storms. You could get anywhere you wanted if you kind of follow this common goal of working as one.

    26. TNTrevor Noah23:58

        Wow.

    27. JAJosé Andrés23:58

        So that my, my time in the military service in, in the Spanish Navy was really, uh, in this way was life-changing in more ways than one. And obviously my mom was a nurse. My father was a nurse that I always saw. We saw it during the pandemic, but I, I grew up in watching all these people that to me were like-

    28. TNTrevor Noah24:15

        Right, right

    29. JAJosé Andrés24:16

        ... superheroes even doing little things, like reading a, a, a little book to a child because his family, their family, uh, didn't arrive to the hospital, and he was alone. And, and, and they will go-

    30. TNTrevor Noah24:26

        Right
14. 27:38 – 33:16

    Wrong Football Field, Right Move

    1. JAJosé Andrés27:38

       And people began coming around this helicopter, and the situation got a little bit tense. It's first, first arrival to Negril. And I don't know, man, I, I, I began like, "Hey, guys, wait, I need you, I need you all to organize. We're gonna do the food, but please don't, don't come close to the helicopter." This is screaming in- to the air. And, and the only way I got everybody kind of work as one is we, we began singing. One love.

    2. TNTrevor Noah28:06

       No ways.

    3. JAJosé Andrés28:08

       One, and, and everybody kind of calm down.

    4. TNTrevor Noah28:10

       Let's get together and-

    5. JAJosé Andrés28:11

       Then we got-

    6. TNTrevor Noah28:12

       ... party

    7. JAJosé Andrés28:12

       ... we got like 30, 40 of the strong man. They help us download the-

    8. TNTrevor Noah28:16

       No ways

    9. JAJosé Andrés28:18

       ... the helicopter. I didn't have the place. We- even we already made contact for a hotel, but the helicopter didn't want to leave me there, but I couldn't leave all the food there without organizing the delivery of the food without creating chaos. The helicopter left. I stay there. And the people even in this tense situation, some of them hungry and, and anyway when it's aid coming can be dramatic at times, but people were amazing. Some police arrive. Everybody was calm. We keep singing a couple more of times. We deliver all the meals without almost any chaos. You see, uh, in these situations you kind of try to learn from previous moments.

    10. TNTrevor Noah28:58

        Yeah.

    11. JAJosé Andrés28:58

        I was in Haiti. I saw one time somebody with very goodwill that drop in a, began giving food without thinking that people will start running and sometimes you have children-

    12. TNTrevor Noah29:10

        Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

    13. JAJosé Andrés29:10

        ... and then things happen.

    14. TNTrevor Noah29:11

        Now there's a stampede.

    15. JAJosé Andrés29:12

        And you don't know those things until you're now in the middle of them. Happened in Bahamas where people were trying to leave Abaco, and even with the military there sometimes the situation is tense when people living three, four, five days without knowing-

    16. TNTrevor Noah29:24

        Without food, yeah

    17. JAJosé Andrés29:25

        ... food and what is happening, and they wanna leave and, and, and in those moments you, you realize that, um, if you come with food every day, if you come with water every day, people know they can trust you. Everybody becomes calm. Everybody becomes-

    18. TNTrevor Noah29:42

        That's interesting

    19. JAJosé Andrés29:43

        ... part of the, part of the solution because when you are desperate, if I was desperate to feed my children-

    20. TNTrevor Noah29:47

        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

    21. JAJosé Andrés29:48

        ... I will do whatever it takes to feed my children.

    22. TNTrevor Noah29:50

        Yeah.

    23. JAJosé Andrés29:50

        And I-

    24. TNTrevor Noah29:50

        Because you don't know if there'll be another opportunity to get that food.

    25. JAJosé Andrés29:52

        But when, that's why it's so important to be fast, to be quick, to be there next to the people because then they know you are with them, and then everything becomes so much easier. Everybody's helping each other. Everybody's looking after each other. And nobody's pushing anybody anymore.

    26. TNTrevor Noah30:10

        Yeah.

    27. JAJosé Andrés30:11

        Uh, this is the dignity we need to be giving to the people. And that's why for me it's always so important that we arrive quick, that we arrive first, and that from the first second we show that it's somebody there looking after them, and that we will not leave until things go back to normal, days, weeks or month from now. And this is what World Central Kitchen tries to do, and that's why for us it's so important to be first. Not because we wanna claim we're first.

    28. TNTrevor Noah30:38

        Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    29. JAJosé Andrés30:39

        No, because-

    30. TNTrevor Noah30:40

        Just to-
15. 33:16 – 35:37

    Why Does Jose Andres Have to Exist

    1. JAJosé Andrés33:16

       and just to wipe out USAID, that is one of the best ways for, uh, the United States of America show the power of soft, soft power-

    2. TNTrevor Noah33:25

       Yeah

    3. JAJosé Andrés33:25

       ... I mean, next to the people.

    4. TNTrevor Noah33:27

       Yeah.

    5. JAJosé Andrés33:27

       I think it's not been a, a, a very smart decision, and I don't think President Trump is being, uh, well-advised, um, uh-

    6. TNTrevor Noah33:35

       About the value of it

    7. JAJosé Andrés33:35

       ... on that sense.

    8. TNTrevor Noah33:36

       Yeah.

    9. JAJosé Andrés33:36

       But the issue is that, uh, we all have the government we, we deserve, but we all have to work towards to have the best government we can.

    10. TNTrevor Noah33:47

        Hmm.

    11. JAJosé Andrés33:47

        Uh, World Central Kitchen exists in a way because government agencies, it's true that sometimes become too big. Sometimes become too big that then move very slow. In emergencies, you have to move quick and fast.

    12. TNTrevor Noah34:01

        Hmm.

    13. JAJosé Andrés34:01

        You cannot have all these manuals [laughs] that by the time you finish the manual, it's like, okay, exactly w- what, what I'm able to do-

    14. TNTrevor Noah34:10

        Yeah

    15. JAJosé Andrés34:10

        ... uh, from who orders the water, who pays for the water, who orders the food, who ... You know, in, in food and water, for example, I saw many examples. We, we deliver huge amounts of water to Puerto Rico.

    16. TNTrevor Noah34:22

        Yeah.

    17. JAJosé Andrés34:23

        Um, I even remember doing a, a tweet thanking President Trump for activating that water. But then we realized it was almost $10 million of water in a tarmac in an airport-

    18. TNTrevor Noah34:34

        No

    19. JAJosé Andrés34:35

        ... a month later that nobody, that nobody delivered.

    20. TNTrevor Noah34:39

        Nobody had actually delivered the water.

    21. JAJosé Andrés34:40

        That nobody delivered. So things get lost in translation sometimes. Um, I've seen how we do MREs, meals ready-to-eat, which meals ready-to-eat are a wonderful, um, human invention, which are these meals that 100 years later the meals will be okay, and you can eat them, and nothing will happen to you.

    22. TNTrevor Noah35:00

        Yeah, yeah.

    23. JAJosé Andrés35:00

        But they were created for soldiers in the battlefield going in, away from any-

    24. TNTrevor Noah35:05

        Right, right, right

    25. JAJosé Andrés35:05

        ... anywhere, and where they couldn't cook, and they will have these packs, and will be enough food for one, two, three, four, five days. We have this feeling like we bring the, the, the MREs, and we drop them, and we claim we, we have a million meals, but sometimes we drop them in the fire stations. Well, the, the, the fire, the, the firemen, the firemen are people to take care of rescues, of stopping fires-

    26. TNTrevor Noah35:29

        Yeah

    27. JAJosé Andrés35:30

        ... of, of helping people in floodings. They're not the people-

    28. TNTrevor Noah35:33

        To distribute the food

    29. JAJosé Andrés35:33

        ... are gonna be distributing the food.

    30. TNTrevor Noah35:35

        Yeah.
16. 35:37 – 43:25

    Why Governments Are Bad at This

    1. JAJosé Andrés35:37

       Because when it's a fire, you send firefighters. When it's an earthquake, you send, you send search and rescue teams with dogs.

    2. TNTrevor Noah35:42

       Mm-hmm.

    3. JAJosé Andrés35:43

       When it's food, you should be sending the people that know better the logistics of food from top to bottom, and those are people in the restaurant industry. Period. So that's why World Central Kitchen. So I come here not, not so much to, to show the weaknesses of the system in countries around the world-

    4. TNTrevor Noah36:00

       Yeah

    5. JAJosé Andrés36:00

       ... but we come to support those systems.

    6. TNTrevor Noah36:04

       Oh, okay. I hear what you're saying.

    7. JAJosé Andrés36:05

       Because I know-

    8. TNTrevor Noah36:05

       Yeah

    9. JAJosé Andrés36:06

       ... that inside the governments is not people thinking about that, because it's not people thinking like that. I remember in, in, in, in Bahamas we did almost four and a half million meals, 16 islands north of Nassau. We were landing in 16 islands every day, six helicopters, two hydroplanes. We even, because was no airports north, we had a boat with two helipads because we had to refuel. Um, we brought water s- uh, filtration systems. But we were there before the hurricane, and nobody invited us. We went because we know the people of Bahamas were going to need us.

    10. TNTrevor Noah36:40

        Yeah, right.

    11. JAJosé Andrés36:41

        And I remember going to, with the team, we were there already. We were, like, 10, and we go to what is the logistics, the hurricane emergency, uh, of, of Bahamas, and happens the president was there. Not like he has to know what World Central Kitchen is or who José Andrés was, but he was coming towards us, and then he stopped, "Hey, how are you? How are you?" And I just tell him, "I'm José Andrés. This is the team of World Central Kitchen, and I promise you, we're gonna feed your people. Don't worry about food or water." He was nice. He shake hands. "Thank you, thank you." He left. You know, I think he left thinking, "Who are those nutty guys-

    12. TNTrevor Noah37:20

        [laughs]

    13. JAJosé Andrés37:21

        ... with a colorful logo?" What was very beautiful that we reached the 80,000 meals a day fairly quickly. We did multiple me- medical evacuations. Again, we were landing in 16 islands every single day. Uh, the only way was doing it through helicopter because the islands were covered in water. Um, a month later, uh, five weeks later, he happens, came to visit the United Nations, and was a gathering of all the people of Bahamas. And happens is the first time I leave Bahamas, and I'm here, and they invite us to go. And we are there in the back of room because I wanted to see what the president, how he will talk to his people. You become, uh, uh, you, you want to become part of the story-

    14. TNTrevor Noah38:04

        Yeah, yeah

    15. JAJosé Andrés38:04

        ... to what the people are going through-

    16. TNTrevor Noah38:05

        Yeah

    17. JAJosé Andrés38:06

        ... how they see what's happening, and o- out of the blue, uh, he arrives. He's about to say something, but then he begins walking away from the mic and comes to where the World Central Kitchen team and myself we were. He came, he puts his hands on my two shoulders, and he said, "You know, you said that you were going to help feed my people, and I w- I wanna thank World Central Kitchen because you guys did it."

    18. TNTrevor Noah38:32

        Huh.

    19. JAJosé Andrés38:32

        And I told him, "Well, we didn't do it, Mr. President. The people of Bahamas help us feed the people of Bahamas, so thank you to you and, and to all your people." And that's what we do, you see? We go to cover the blind spots-

    20. TNTrevor Noah38:46

        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

    21. JAJosé Andrés38:48

        ... of governments.

    22. TNTrevor Noah38:48

        Yeah, yeah. I understand that now.

    23. JAJosé Andrés38:48

        Because sometimes things are overwhelming. Happened in Acapulco. Um, they were not even letting us go into Acapulco-

    24. TNTrevor Noah38:57

        Uh-huh

    25. JAJosé Andrés38:57

        ... but happens that we were already in [laughs] because we had helicopters, and we were landing in the golf course. And was ... The military was doing a okay job, but the military don't have experience in feeding. Before you knew, we were doing, you know, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of meals a day in a, a town, a city that got wiped out, and especially on the water. That's what we do. We come to support the local governments. We come to support the countries. And hopefully, in the process, one day, I think we're gaining enough, uh, awareness that we are okay and good at what we do-

    26. TNTrevor Noah39:34

        Right

    27. JAJosé Andrés39:34

        ... that we will help rewrite what should be the emergency systems, doesn't matter what it is, hurricanes or fires, or to be next-

    28. TNTrevor Noah39:43

        This is like best practices on how-

    29. JAJosé Andrés39:45

        To be next to the people as quick and as fast as we can. That's what we did in Ukraine. That's what we did in Lebanon, in Gaza. That's what we did in Israel.

    30. TNTrevor Noah39:53

        How, how do you, how do you think you, you, you, you built the trust? It, it seems effortless, but I, I, I, I'm sure it's lessons that you've learned. You know, w- when I think of governments trying to help, you know, and I mean trying to ... They're supposed to do it, but, but they'll often get bogged down. You know, when I think of that $10 million worth of water that was supposed to go to Puerto Rico and then never leave the tarmac, I can't help but think about people who'll then go, "But where, where's the water going, and how do we know it's going to the right place, and, you know, what if people are stealing this water, and what if ... " And you see this everywhere in the world. Sometimes the argument against helping people is that the help won't necessarily get there, or there'll be wastage, or somebody will steal, or ... But, but you seem to have this, this, this trust-
17. 43:25 – 47:05

    Okay But the Beans Story Again

    1. TNTrevor Noah43:25

       dropping giant, like, crates-

    2. JAJosé Andrés43:27

       Yeah

    3. TNTrevor Noah43:27

       ... those pallets of random-

    4. JAJosé Andrés43:29

       It's the, it's the parachute mentality.

    5. TNTrevor Noah43:30

       Yeah, yeah. You drop the pallets, and then the people ... And, and I, I, I re- genuinely remember saying this, but I would, I would, like, say this to my friends when we'd be watching the news or whatever. I would go, "Who, who chose that food?" And I didn't mean it in, like, a, in a disparaging way. I was just like, "Who chose that food?"

    6. JAJosé Andrés43:45

       Yeah.

    7. TNTrevor Noah43:45

       Because it seemed like they were dropping the same food in every single African country.

    8. JAJosé Andrés43:49

       [laughs]

    9. TNTrevor Noah43:49

       And I know the people needed it.

    10. JAJosé Andrés43:50

        Okay. And, and this is the next phase. Now, what, what Central Kitchen does is not fighting hunger. We are really pure emergency.

    11. TNTrevor Noah43:55

        Okay. Yeah.

    12. JAJosé Andrés43:56

        When some-

    13. TNTrevor Noah43:56

        You're going for emergencies

    14. JAJosé Andrés43:57

        ... well, not, not like hunger is no emergency, but when something gets totally upside down-

    15. TNTrevor Noah44:01

        Yeah, yeah, yeah

    16. JAJosé Andrés44:02

        ... uh-

    17. TNTrevor Noah44:02

        That immediate event

    18. JAJosé Andrés44:03

        ... that's where we come.

    19. TNTrevor Noah44:04

        Right

    20. JAJosé Andrés44:04

        ... that's where we are effective. Uh, World Food Program does, uh, can always get better, but does, uh, uh, i- is organization that does this job for long-term hunger.

    21. TNTrevor Noah44:13

        Right.

    22. JAJosé Andrés44:13

        Also, they do emergencies. But, but, but, but they're good in the long-term hunger, and that's what UN created, uh, obviously for World Food Program. But take a look, no, the issues we face today. Uh, the military spending average 2025, now 2026, is gonna be $2.5 trillion.

    23. TNTrevor Noah44:32

        Right.

    24. JAJosé Andrés44:33

        To take care of total hunger, um, will be roughly, uh, 80 billion a year. 80 billion a year.

    25. TNTrevor Noah44:43

        No, José.

    26. JAJosé Andrés44:43

        To take care of the, of the few hundred millions that they-

    27. TNTrevor Noah44:46

        No, José

    28. JAJosé Andrés44:46

        ... they are going through, many of them.

    29. TNTrevor Noah44:48

        Wait, wait, say, say, say those numbers again.

    30. JAJosé Andrés44:48

        So, so it's two point f- 2.5 trillion.
18. 47:05 – 52:46

    80 Billion vs 2.5 Trillion Do the Math

    1. JAJosé Andrés47:05

       better water management? Can we help them with better quality fertilizers? All of the sudden you have entire population of Haitians in the rural areas that with very little investment we're making them get richer and better, helping Haiti as a country.

    2. TNTrevor Noah47:21

       Yeah.

    3. JAJosé Andrés47:22

       Versus creating mayhem and chaos. So in the way we do international food aid dramatically has to change. I do believe that everybody listening to us, if we will say, [laughs] "My God, with two, 3% of the military spending we can end total hunger in the world," that then if we do it well can also help create riches in those countries-

    4. TNTrevor Noah47:48

       It really is

    5. JAJosé Andrés47:48

       ... versus keep throwing money at the problem, versus investing in long-term solutions. This is where the international organizations, UN, governments dramatically will have to change the way we take care of, of, of, of, of the people, including wars. Uh, because obviously the money is going into wars instead of investing-

    6. TNTrevor Noah48:12

       Yeah

    7. JAJosé Andrés48:12

       ... in education, in food, in health. And right now I'm very worried that at the end of 2026, 2027, we may have a very big hunger, uh, increase. 50%, 40 to 50% of all the fertilizers that the world uses to produce food, they go through the Strait of Hormuz.

    8. TNTrevor Noah48:31

       Yeah.

    9. JAJosé Andrés48:32

       Uh, there are-

    10. TNTrevor Noah48:32

        That's that, that's that tiny little strip of water-

    11. JAJosé Andrés48:34

        They're a byproduct-

    12. TNTrevor Noah48:35

        ... off the coast of Iran

    13. JAJosé Andrés48:36

        ... so we're talking about gas.

    14. TNTrevor Noah48:37

        Yeah.

    15. JAJosé Andrés48:37

        And when we think gas is what moves our cars and our-

    16. TNTrevor Noah48:40

        Yeah, yeah

    17. JAJosé Andrés48:40

        ... planes and our industry, but also is what moves, creates the energy that moves the humans, which is the food we eat.

    18. TNTrevor Noah48:48

        Right.

    19. JAJosé Andrés48:49

        I'm very worried that because that lack of fertilizers, uh, and not enough investment in Fertilizers produce more locally-

    20. TNTrevor Noah49:00

        Right

    21. JAJosé Andrés49:00

        ... in every part of the world.

    22. TNTrevor Noah49:01

        Right.

    23. JAJosé Andrés49:01

        Now also we're gonna be very dependent from what's going on, and this war is gonna be creating two things, probably a shortage in quantity of food, uh, but also it's gonna be an increase in the cost of food because also to transport the food is becoming more expensive.

    24. TNTrevor Noah49:17

        Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    25. JAJosé Andrés49:17

        And at the end, who is gonna suffer? You and I, even if the rice increases, and our sushi increases-

    26. TNTrevor Noah49:24

        Yeah

    27. JAJosé Andrés49:24

        ... and our beautiful quinoa from Peru, and our green tea from Japan increases, okay, we're gonna be able to, to pay it.

    28. TNTrevor Noah49:33

        Yeah.

    29. JAJosé Andrés49:34

        But the vast majority of the people, starting by America and many parts of the world, that increase of food that may be 3, 4, 5, 6%, for the people with a lot of money equals absolutely nothing-

    30. TNTrevor Noah49:46

        Right
19. 52:46 – 1:00:56

    Nobody Leaves Home Because They Want To

    1. JAJosé Andrés52:46

       is produced but not for food for humans or cattle, uh, which will be great because-

    2. TNTrevor Noah52:52

       Yeah

    3. JAJosé Andrés52:53

       ... the corn will feed the cattle and then we eat the meat, but, but it's to produce ethanol. So all of a sudden, the USDA, the, the Secretary for Agriculture, in a way, is also Secretary of Energy.

    4. TNTrevor Noah53:06

       [laughs]

    5. JAJosé Andrés53:07

       But this has a lot of consequences.

    6. TNTrevor Noah53:09

       Yeah.

    7. JAJosé Andrés53:09

       As price of energy goes up, ethanol is gonna go up.

    8. TNTrevor Noah53:13

       The price of ethanol goes up, the price of corn goes up.

    9. JAJosé Andrés53:15

       The price of corn is gonna go up. The price of meat is gonna, uh, is gonna go up. But then it's deeper than that, right? Um, in America, we have what they call of the food stamps, is what it's called. SNAP's-

    10. TNTrevor Noah53:24

        Yes

    11. JAJosé Andrés53:24

        ... more technical.

    12. TNTrevor Noah53:25

        Yeah.

    13. JAJosé Andrés53:26

        Which is a short-term help that the government gives to families that fall behind, lose their jobs, so they need extra money to cover the needs in the table.

    14. TNTrevor Noah53:34

        Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    15. JAJosé Andrés53:35

        Um, this is o- this is okay, but very often, uh, I saw it during the pandemic in places like Oakland or Baltimore or, uh, in the Navajo Nation, that is not money they receive from the government where they live, which is a very poor area.

    16. TNTrevor Noah53:53

        Yeah.

    17. JAJosé Andrés53:54

        In that poor area, they don't have a place they can spend that money. They have to go to-

    18. TNTrevor Noah53:58

        No ways. I didn't know that

    19. JAJosé Andrés53:59

        ... other neighborhood. So the Department of Urban and Housing Development should also have to be working alongside the Department-

    20. TNTrevor Noah54:08

        I didn't know that. Yeah

    21. JAJosé Andrés54:08

        ... for Agriculture because we need to make sure that every poor neighborhood in America, in the richest country in the world, has markets that if the private sector doesn't do it because they feel they lose money-

    22. TNTrevor Noah54:20

        Yes

    23. JAJosé Andrés54:21

        ... okay, create a partnership with the government, supports the private business, which everybody will agree private business is in the, in the process of making money.

    24. TNTrevor Noah54:30

        Yeah.

    25. JAJosé Andrés54:30

        But if they get the right partnership with the government, now we make almost mandatory by government standards to have markets in every poor neighborhood in-

    26. TNTrevor Noah54:38

        Right. Right, right

    27. JAJosé Andrés54:38

        ... all of the sudden, the people that receive aid from the government, they have places in their own neighborhoods that they can buy fresh fruits and vegetables. But then you hire from people that live in that poor neighborhood too.

    28. TNTrevor Noah54:50

        Yeah.

    29. JAJosé Andrés54:51

        Creating employment. And you ... And then why you don't let the food stamps be used in the local food trucks and the local diners? Happens that those poor areas don't have restaurants either. So if a mother is working two jobs and still doesn't make it because she's underpaid- And even with the help of the government to cover the needs of food, if all of the sudden she's coming from work and she can use stamps, the food stamps, to buy from the local food truck because she's too tired to go now and do dinner.

    30. TNTrevor Noah55:19

        Mm-hmm.
20. 1:00:56 – 1:11:37

    Plant the Seed Trust the People

    1. JAJosé Andrés1:00:56

       across us. So of sure we have to protect the borders. Every country should. It's not true that anybody's against it. I am pro let's every country make sure that we understand who comes and who goes. That's good. What cannot be is the big lie that when you have the big harvest or you need, uh, a lot of people to take care of the cattle, all of the sudden seems that those immigrants are coming through the border-

    2. TNTrevor Noah1:01:23

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

    3. JAJosé Andrés1:01:23

       ... with no problem.

    4. TNTrevor Noah1:01:24

       Yeah.

    5. JAJosé Andrés1:01:24

       And people hire them because the business need them, and seems everybody's looking to the other side. But then when you don't want them, it's like, "Oh, now I don't want them. They're, they are not mine. They are not mine."

    6. TNTrevor Noah1:01:35

       Yeah, yeah.

    7. JAJosé Andrés1:01:36

       "They only help me temporarily." Listen, uh, Republicans and Democrats, um, going back to President Bush and Reagan, they wanted immigration reform. I think during, uh, the times of President Obama, he had a big opportunity to pass immigration reform. It's always a reason why we didn't pass immigration reform, but this is not a problem for us to solve. It's an opportunity for us to seize. Our golf courses will not work without them. Our, uh, wineries and farms will not work without them. Our restaurants and taxis will not work without them. They are the part of the DNA of what America is.

    8. TNTrevor Noah1:02:19

       Yeah.

    9. JAJosé Andrés1:02:19

       They're Lady Liberty themselves. It's about time that we stop now making them like the ones that create all the problems we face.

    10. TNTrevor Noah1:02:30

        Mm-hmm.

    11. JAJosé Andrés1:02:31

        Because when leaders don't have really solutions to solve certain problems, they're gonna be looking for the pundits.

    12. TNTrevor Noah1:02:37

        Yeah, yeah.

    13. JAJosé Andrés1:02:38

        And the immigrants are not those. 99.99% of the immigrants we may have in this country, they are people that want to work hard, that want to provide for the families, that are helping the American economy, that pe- people, believe it or not, that they pay taxes because many of them have W-2s and 1090s.

    14. TNTrevor Noah1:02:58

        Right, right.

    15. JAJosé Andrés1:02:58

        And this is something like functions very well in America. It functions so well that even undocumented are paying their taxes.

    16. TNTrevor Noah1:03:04

        [laughs]

    17. JAJosé Andrés1:03:05

        We should be celebrating that. But now we all want to demonize them. We want to hunt them like it was the Planet of the Apes. We want to be in front of, of the schools and waiting for the mother picking up their-

    18. TNTrevor Noah1:03:17

        Yeah

    19. JAJosé Andrés1:03:17

        ... three American-born children. What we are doing is use dehumanizing the human-

    20. TNTrevor Noah1:03:23

        It's inhumane

    21. JAJosé Andrés1:03:24

        ... race.

    22. TNTrevor Noah1:03:24

        Yeah.

    23. JAJosé Andrés1:03:25

        And this dramatically has to change. This is not about Republicans or Democrats. The border needs to be protected, yes, but that's why we need to improve the systems, so when you hire somebody, you know if they are documented or not. Because in that moment, we will know how many people really we, we need.

    24. TNTrevor Noah1:03:45

        That's actually true.

    25. JAJosé Andrés1:03:45

        And those undocumented, let me tell you, they are needed. Because right now, you ask around, it's many businesses across America that they all have one thing in common, that they need hands so they can keep moving their business forward. Our politicians need to be responding to that simple call. We need to legalize once and for all, document those people that they are part of us, that they are part of what America is, and where we need to stop doing what we're doing, which is qui- quite frankly, not something America, uh, five, 10 years from now will be very proud when we look, uh, at the past.

    26. TNTrevor Noah1:04:20

        I also don't think it's smart. You know, like, on the one hand, it's, it's definitely inhumane. But I think even if you were to strip away all emotion, I don't think it's smart, and I, uh, I'll tell you why. I think ... You know, oftentimes people will talk about borders as if they only exist like a moat around a castle. You know, the moat is what keeps the people-

    27. JAJosé Andrés1:04:43

        Mm

    28. TNTrevor Noah1:04:43

        ... out of the castle. And, and then I, I look at Europe and I, I look at the European Union. I've always found it fascinating that once you're in Europe, you're in Europe, and then you just move between countries now. You just move between countries. And they've found a way to sort of understand that the mean average means that, like, everyone won't just end up in one country. 'Cause, 'cause if you think about it, the argument most people make about a border is, "We have to have borders." Then I go, "Fine. Okay, you have to have borders." But I think you can also redefine how a border operates, and Europe has showed me that. For how people argue about a border, you would think that once the European Union said there's no borders technically, um, like between us, everyone would end up in one country. We're all going to Barcelona. Barcelona. Andiamo. You know what I mean? It's like we're all there. Vamos. But no, s- some English people moved to Spain. Some Spanish people moved to Italy. Some Italians move- people moved, but you know what happened? It sort of all stayed the same. And one of the most convincing things I've read about, like, how people think about the border is in the United States, it used to be a lot more acceptable for laborers to move from Mexico to the US to work and then come back, and there was a more porous system on the border. And it's actually the crackdown of the border-

    29. JAJosé Andrés1:05:58

        What creates the bigger problems

    30. TNTrevor Noah1:06:00

        ... it created the bigger problem
21. 1:11:37 – 1:13:53

    How Is He Still This Hopeful

    1. JAJosé Andrés1:11:37

       Kitchen was there in all the kibbutz, in all the little villages, feeding the people.

    2. TNTrevor Noah1:11:41

       Yeah.

    3. JAJosé Andrés1:11:42

       And I had people, "Why are you there and helping Israel?" Because it's the right thing to do, and because the people of Israel in this moment needs our help. The day after, we were inside Gaza, and I had people telling me, "And why are you in Gaza?" Well, because the people of Gaza needs our help, too. Not all Palestinians and all Arabs and Muslims were responsible for what happened on October 7th, as I don't make every Israeli or every Jewish of what has happened in Gaza, that they cannot understand how President Netanyahu allow to happen what has happened in Gaza.

    4. TNTrevor Noah1:12:19

       Hmm.

    5. JAJosé Andrés1:12:21

       I wish that was a bad dream, but that has happened, and we destroy the, the future of almost 2 million people. But then they ask me, "But are you pro-Israel or are you pro-Palestinian?" I, I am pro-both. I am pro-both of the good people because in the same days, I will be crying with one person and telling me how much they suffer and how much they suffer also seeing the suffering of the others. And if I don't tell you who they are, I'll tell you it's people on both sides. So it's more people of goodness that sometimes they don't speak up enough. And it's the people of hate, that they are the ones that have the mic, and seems it's the only people that matter and count. I want people that don't make me take sides. I want people that believe like me that this is wrong, but this is wrong, too.

    6. TNTrevor Noah1:13:06

       Hmm.

    7. JAJosé Andrés1:13:08

       And what we need to be working is what is right. What is right is where people don't fight each other, where people respect each other. You wanna live in a place with dignity and freedom? Okay, but the other people want to live in a place with dignity-

    8. TNTrevor Noah1:13:20

       And freedom as well

    9. JAJosé Andrés1:13:20

       ... and freedom too.

    10. TNTrevor Noah1:13:21

        Yeah.

    11. JAJosé Andrés1:13:22

        So I support your right to live in freedom and dignity and not fear attacks by anybody. Okay, I agree with you, but you have to agree with me that these people too deserve dignity, respect, and don't live in fear of drones and bombs falling over their heads. What is good for you, my friend, must be good for me. Cannot be me and fuck the rest, has to be we the people. That's why those three words is something we cannot forget. One of the biggest gifts that

22. 1:13:53 – 1:17:17

    Pro-Both

    1. JAJosé Andrés1:13:53

       probably the creation of America gave to the world are those three powerful words, we the people. All the people. All the people.

    2. TNTrevor Noah1:14:01

       Hmm.

    3. JAJosé Andrés1:14:01

       Not the we that we like. We all the people.

    4. TNTrevor Noah1:14:04

       Hmm.

    5. JAJosé Andrés1:14:04

       If we believe in that and we fight for that, the world is gonna be in a good path. But in the, in the process, we're gonna have hiccups, or things worse than hiccups, but we should not give up on this simple belief, we the people. That even when the people that wrote that, maybe they thought we the people us, this has taken this kind of fascinating moment in history, which-

    6. TNTrevor Noah1:14:27

       Yeah

    7. JAJosé Andrés1:14:28

       ... a lot of people believe in what we the people meant. I still believe it today, and I'm gonna fight to make sure that we the people in the future has a true meaning.

    8. TNTrevor Noah1:14:39

       You know, when you, when you speak about this as passionately as you do, I, I can't help but think to myself and wonder, how does José Andrés the man find his solace and his stillness? Like, you know, 'cause I've, I've had the pleasure of meeting your one daughter. I've had the pleasure of meeting your wife. And the, the one thing I will say-

    9. JAJosé Andrés1:15:00

       One of my three daughters.

    10. TNTrevor Noah1:15:01

        Oh, one of your three daughters, yeah. And, and one of the things I remember p- I picked up was, um... And you correct me if I'm wrong. Your, your wife felt next to you like the most solid, peaceful-

    11. JAJosé Andrés1:15:19

        Mm-hmm

    12. TNTrevor Noah1:15:19

        ... you know, celestial object a human can imagine.

    13. JAJosé Andrés1:15:23

        Patricia, yeah, she's-

    14. TNTrevor Noah1:15:25

        It, it, it, it, it literally... A- and I remember thinking to myself, I was like, "Is this the only reason he can do what he does?"

    15. JAJosé Andrés1:15:31

        Yeah, she, she's definitely my, my sun, my, my rock, my... I'm like this comet that sometimes doesn't know in what [laughs] what direction is moving. Um, but obviously she's, she, she's been that and, and so much more, right? It's, uh, almost 33 years now. We, we married over 30 years ago, but we've been together 33. And obviously she's an amazing friend, an amazing mother, uh, an amazing wife, um, friend of friends. Um, we all need those people, right? Uh-

    16. TNTrevor Noah1:16:03

        Mm-hmm

    17. JAJosé Andrés1:16:03

        ... we need to remember that we are only as good as the people we have around us.

    18. TNTrevor Noah1:16:07

        Hmm.

    19. JAJosé Andrés1:16:08

        We, we, we all need, uh, good people that makes us better, that also tell us, "Hey, this is not the way."

    20. TNTrevor Noah1:16:15

        Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    21. JAJosé Andrés1:16:16

        Um, my wife is that person, but then I've been very lucky that I'm surrounded by friends, that they always, uh, invested in me probably more than I've ever invested in them. Uh, and, uh, and for that I'm always thankful. Uh, but we are all the product of all the people, even those teachers we don't remember their names that-

    22. TNTrevor Noah1:16:36

        Yeah, yeah, yeah

    23. JAJosé Andrés1:16:37

        ... that they had an influence on us. And thanks to them, uh, we became who we became. That's why we need to be thankful to those that whatever it is, the interaction we have-

    24. TNTrevor Noah1:16:48

        Yeah

    25. JAJosé Andrés1:16:49

        ... everybody's giving us something. Uh, and we become who we become thanks to those moments.

    26. TNTrevor Noah1:16:55

        And, and how do you think you've managed to find the balance of being a great contributor to the world, but then still, still maintaining your family and you being a father and a husband? 'Cause, 'cause you know that's something you, you'll often see when you read people's biographies or when you hear from their families, they'll go, "My father was a great man to the world,

23. 1:17:17 – 1:21:52

    Patricia Is the Whole Operation

    1. TNTrevor Noah1:17:18

       but wasn't the greatest man to me." And then, like, I see your daughter, and she ... The way she laughs about you and the way she talks, and she teases you, and then she follows you. I remember when your, your daughter was telling me she was going... Wait, what country was she going to? Her first place was ... I remember going, "This is crazy."

    2. JAJosé Andrés1:17:32

       She, yeah, she was in Chad in the border with Sudan.

    3. TNTrevor Noah1:17:35

       Yeah.

    4. JAJosé Andrés1:17:35

       And then she went to Yemen.

    5. TNTrevor Noah1:17:36

       Yeah, and I remember being like, like, what life is-

    6. JAJosé Andrés1:17:38

       Yeah, 21

    7. TNTrevor Noah1:17:39

       ... but the, the passion that she had in and around this and, and the way your wife dealt with it. I'd, I'd love to know, like, how as a family you found this balance and how you as a human being have found the balance. Like, how, how, how are you still able-

    8. JAJosé Andrés1:17:49

       Well-

    9. TNTrevor Noah1:17:49

       ... to give to those around you and not only give to the outside world?

    10. JAJosé Andrés1:17:53

        It's not ... You know, obviously friends, family, friends are, are everything. Obviously I, I, I have a day work, which is my restaurants, which-

    11. TNTrevor Noah1:18:02

        Yeah, yeah. I mean, we didn't, we, you see-

    12. JAJosé Andrés1:18:04

        If I could, I, I, I will let you know. They, they can run probably without me, but they're better if I am around because everybody obviously, my teams, uh, and my partners want, want me around.

    13. TNTrevor Noah1:18:14

        Yeah.

    14. JAJosé Andrés1:18:15

        And, and I have joy running my restaurants, and I'm, I'm being the chef I am. But then sometimes you feel gets in the middle of the other passion I have, which is World Central Kitchen, but then gets in the middle of the other passion I have, which is making policy around food that will improve-

    15. TNTrevor Noah1:18:32

        Right

    16. JAJosé Andrés1:18:33

        ... uh, the world. And then also, you know, I'm a, I try to play golf, but I know I will never become a pro.

    17. TNTrevor Noah1:18:40

        [laughs]

    18. JAJosé Andrés1:18:40

        And, and-

    19. TNTrevor Noah1:18:41

        Is your golf better than your pickleball?

    20. JAJosé Andrés1:18:42

        [laughs] Uh, no, no, my, my-

    21. TNTrevor Noah1:18:44

        Your pickleball is good, man

    22. JAJosé Andrés1:18:45

        ... my pickleball is okay.

    23. TNTrevor Noah1:18:46

        Your pickleball is good.

    24. JAJosé Andrés1:18:46

        I mean, a- anything that has a kitchen and pickles, I mean-

    25. TNTrevor Noah1:18:49

        [laughs]

    26. JAJosé Andrés1:18:49

        ... I mean, if I don't perform, uh, uh, obviously forget about it. But, you know, um, uh, obviously I try to enjoy, as I told you-

    27. TNTrevor Noah1:18:58

        Yeah

    28. JAJosé Andrés1:18:58

        ... in the beginning, uh, every single moment, and it's important. But then you go moments of, of, for me, uh, last two years they've been ... The last four years they've been very hard. I mean, in, in, in Ukraine, I saw, you know, kitchens that they, they were feeding with World Central Kitchen or not, and we were being hit by- By drones and, and people got injured or, or worse, and, and they perish. And, and there you began seeing the realities of, of trying to be in the real world.

    29. TNTrevor Noah1:19:27

        Right.

    30. JAJosé Andrés1:19:28

        In Gaza, we got seven members of World Central Kitchen in what technically was one of the, uh, supposed to be a very safe mission.
24. 1:21:52 – 1:24:12

    The Seven

    1. TNTrevor Noah1:21:52

       tell you something? I've thought about this for maybe, like, I wanna say 15 years of my life. Like, this is a ... Not this specific comic, but this is Spider-Man, like multiple Spider-Man com- comics, and it's you helping-

    2. JAJosé Andrés1:22:08

       Well, it's the same one.

    3. TNTrevor Noah1:22:09

       Yeah, but it's you helping him-

    4. JAJosé Andrés1:22:10

       With different covers.

    5. TNTrevor Noah1:22:10

       Yeah, different covers, but it's you helping him i- in a mission, and it's, it's ... But it's you. And it's a thought that I've had for such a long time. I've gone, "Why don't we make heroes of the people who are doing the most heroic things?"

    6. JAJosé Andrés1:22:26

       Yeah.

    7. TNTrevor Noah1:22:26

       Like, I know we have to go, but just, just help me understand.

    8. JAJosé Andrés1:22:29

       Okay.

    9. TNTrevor Noah1:22:29

       How did, how did this come to be?

    10. JAJosé Andrés1:22:30

        So, so I don't under- Well, because the wonderful people of Marvel, uh, love food. Uh, they love World Central Kitchen, I guess. They, they, they've been following us for a long time. It happened also with DC Comics. So in one year, um, in one year I've been cooking with Superman and Aquaman and, and Wonder Woman and Flash, uh, feeding lionfish, uh, and fishing with Aquaman and-

    11. TNTrevor Noah1:22:56

        Yeah

    12. JAJosé Andrés1:22:56

        ... in a seahorse, catching lionfish to feed the people of the Caribbean. And now, uh, Marvel, um, has put me in a, next to Spider-Man when my restaurant in Hudson Yards, Mercado Little Spain, is under attack by Electro, and all of the sudden Spider-Man shows up, and, and I'm there, uh, alongside the Spider-Man fighting, fighting Electro. And then at the end-

    13. TNTrevor Noah1:23:21

        Were you, were you a comic book fan as a kid?

    14. JAJosé Andrés1:23:23

        Oh, I have a big comic collection.

    15. TNTrevor Noah1:23:25

        I mean, this, this must be-

    16. JAJosé Andrés1:23:25

        Oh, this is ... And I, I came by you from South by Southwest in Austin, and, and they just announced that Marvel, uh, is putting me in a number in the fall, uh, uh, with Avengers. So the ... When, when [laughs] I still to this moment I think they are doing a prank on me-

    17. TNTrevor Noah1:23:43

        [laughs]

    18. JAJosé Andrés1:23:43

        ... and that they're gonna do a very big ad saying, "This is the fool that thought he could be in a, in a comic with the Spider-Man." You know, life sometimes is about these little moments and these little dreams, but as you said, this is n- not ... This is an homage to, to all the people that-

    19. TNTrevor Noah1:24:01

        Yeah

    20. JAJosé Andrés1:24:01

        ... every single day when nobody's watching, they wake up with the very simple idea of helping others. So even, yeah, I'm, I'm there with the Spider-Man. I think what Marvel wanted to

25. 1:24:12 – 1:27:23

    Spider-Man Called

    1. JAJosé Andrés1:24:12

       do is just to, to, to, to give a big round of applause to the millions around the world that they don't give up and that they are always there next to the people.

    2. TNTrevor Noah1:24:20

       Last question. I know you gotta go. Um, I just wanted to know this about food. Food is, is, is such an interesting thing because it's what sustains us. It's one of the first things a child will compliment their parents on. If you say like, "Why does Mommy or Daddy love you?" They'd be like, "'Cause they feed me, and they give me food." And you know?

    3. JAJosé Andrés1:24:39

       That's true.

    4. TNTrevor Noah1:24:41

       But, but you, you have interacted with food on a spectrum that I think few of us have. Your restaurants serve some of the most decadent, beautiful, delicious food that people ever experience, and then you are cooking local food, which is often delicious as well, in places where someone wouldn't, would assume there is no joy. When you think of food, what, what does food mean to you?

    5. JAJosé Andrés1:25:06

       Yeah. I mean, you, you mention about our mommy and daddy feeding us, but-

    6. TNTrevor Noah1:25:11

       Yeah

    7. JAJosé Andrés1:25:12

       ... the first gift we receive in the form of a tangible is when we come to the world, and our mom brings us to their body or- Or our grandma or our father give us baby bottle, but the first gift is in the form of food.

    8. TNTrevor Noah1:25:24

       Huh.

    9. JAJosé Andrés1:25:25

       Mother's milk. And I think our fate and our relationship with food is sealed on that magical, beautiful moment, even if we were, uh, unaware. I mean, uh, I, I have ... I collect cookbooks too, and, and many of them are centuries old, and one of them is from 1826, and it's a Frenchman, and I don't quote French people in public often, but-

    10. TNTrevor Noah1:25:49

        [laughs]

    11. JAJosé Andrés1:25:50

        But they're good cooks, after all, we have to recognize. But this guy, Brillat-Savarin, uh, in the first edition he didn't sign the book because he was too afraid of what his friends in Paris would think-

    12. TNTrevor Noah1:26:01

        Yeah

    13. JAJosé Andrés1:26:02

        ... about him. But this one guy that gave us, uh, an amazing, amazing quotes, and one of them was, um, "Tell me what you eat, and I will tell you who you are."

    14. TNTrevor Noah1:26:12

        Oh, wow.

    15. JAJosé Andrés1:26:13

        Nothing, nothing gets more powerful than that very simple thought, that at the end, the way we, we, we love to live life, doesn't matter only if you eat hog, hot dogs like Peter Parker-

    16. TNTrevor Noah1:26:25

        Yeah

    17. JAJosé Andrés1:26:25

        ... in the streets of New York. That's great.

    18. TNTrevor Noah1:26:27

        That's part of who you are.

    19. JAJosé Andrés1:26:27

        I love hot dogs.

    20. TNTrevor Noah1:26:28

        Yeah.

    21. JAJosé Andrés1:26:29

        Uh, and you should be proud of it. Food is something that really tells a story of who we are in powerful ways. And the same philosopher said even a more powerful phrase, that both together very much are, like, the commandments of food. He said that the future of the nations will depend in how they feed themselves.

    22. TNTrevor Noah1:26:48

        Hm.

    23. JAJosé Andrés1:26:49

        So from culture to science to how we will feed people in the moon to food as art, uh, food as a social gathering, food as thanksgiving, food as history, food as health, food as immigration, food very much, uh, touches everything. And, and you realize that sometimes everything usually starts in a humble plate of food that you may have in a faraway place sitting next to a stranger. That's some of the most fascinating moments you can experience in life.

    24. TNTrevor Noah1:27:21

        You know, you just made me realize, this, this is one

26. 1:27:23 – 1:28:36

    Food Is Everything

    1. TNTrevor Noah1:27:23

       of my favorite conversations. You've always been one of my favorite people. The only mistake I made was not having food for our conversation.

    2. JAJosé Andrés1:27:30

       [laughs]

    3. TNTrevor Noah1:27:30

       I apologize.

    4. JAJosé Andrés1:27:30

       I just landed. I just landed.

    5. TNTrevor Noah1:27:32

       I ap- I apologize.

    6. JAJosé Andrés1:27:32

       I came empty, but I have my book.

    7. TNTrevor Noah1:27:33

       No, no, no. I apologize.

    8. JAJosé Andrés1:27:35

       My new book, Spain My Way.

    9. TNTrevor Noah1:27:36

       I'm, I'm actually ... Are you gonna leave that for me?

    10. JAJosé Andrés1:27:38

        Uh, this is for you, but I-

    11. TNTrevor Noah1:27:39

        Okay

    12. JAJosé Andrés1:27:39

        ... don't think that's it. No, this is not even the real deal yet because, uh, we are waiting. It's arriving by boat.

    13. TNTrevor Noah1:27:44

        Okay. I, I want it. I want it though.

    14. JAJosé Andrés1:27:45

        But, but it's Spain My Way.

    15. TNTrevor Noah1:27:47

        I want it. I want it. One day I should go to Spain with you. I, I just wanna go somewhere and have a meal with you.

    16. JAJosé Andrés1:27:51

        We talk every year.

    17. TNTrevor Noah1:27:52

        Some-

    18. JAJosé Andrés1:27:53

        You do come in-

    19. TNTrevor Noah1:27:53

        Just-

    20. JAJosé Andrés1:27:53

        ... with me to Spain

    21. TNTrevor Noah1:27:54

        ... just somewhere. You'll invite me. You'll come back again. Uh, José Andrés, muchas gracias.

    22. JAJosé Andrés1:27:58

        Amigo, thank you. It's a pleasure to be in your presence always.

    23. TNTrevor Noah1:28:01

        Thank you so much, man. Safe journey.

    24. JAJosé Andrés1:28:03

        Thank you. [upbeat music]

    25. TNTrevor Noah1:28:07

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