What Now? With Trevor NoahOrlando Bloom's Life On The Edge! - What Now? with Trevor Noah Podcast
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Intro
- TNTrevor Noah
[upbeat music]
- 0:01 – 1:40
Zombie-apocalypse banter and Orlando’s “weapon skills” as an actor
- TNTrevor Noah
If there was a zombie apocalypse and we had essentially just the tools on the ground, I would hope to be near you.
- OBOrlando Bloom
I don't know if that would be-
- TNTrevor Noah
No, no, no, you, you, you, you're pretty nice with it.
- OBOrlando Bloom
[laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
I've seen you with almost every weapon. You're pretty nice with it.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I'll take it.
- TNTrevor Noah
You could, you could kill-
- OBOrlando Bloom
I'm not sure it's, uh-
- TNTrevor Noah
You could kill a few zombies
- OBOrlando Bloom
You know, it is called acting as well. You know, there's my Camarus aspect.
- TNTrevor Noah
No, no, no, no, no, no. [upbeat music] This is What Now? With Trevor Noah. You know, one of the weirdest things about doing an introduction when somebody's sitting next to you is that you want to give an introduction that's as honest as possible, but also as effusive as possible without making it seem like you're doing it to them. So just act like you're not here-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right, right
- TNTrevor Noah
... while I speak about you.
- OBOrlando Bloom
[laughs] I'm not here.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah. I'm chatting to Orlando Bloom today, um, who is arguably one of the most recognizable faces in the world because he has been, I mean, the lead in some of the biggest movies that have shaped our lives, I was thinking about the other day. And, uh, we're gonna be chatting today on the podcast because today he's, uh, he's, he's, uh, embarking on a different journey where it's a, it's a different type of trilogy. As epic, I would say, as, as Lord of the Rings and Pirates of the Caribbean, only in this story he could actually die.
- OBOrlando Bloom
[laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
He doesn't. Spoiler alert, he's here. This is the great news.
- OBOrlando Bloom
I'm still here. Yeah, yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
He's here.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Came close, though. Came close a couple of times.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, yeah. Came close, but, but spoiler alert, he's here.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
So, uh, Orlando Bloom, welcome to the podcast.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Thanks for having me, man. It's great to see you.
- 1:40 – 2:36
Haircuts, physical transformations, and the risk of committing to a bad project
- TNTrevor Noah
By the way, when did you, when did you cut the hair?
- OBOrlando Bloom
I just finished working in London, um, on this, this movie, and, um, we cut it for that. So, um-
- TNTrevor Noah
Wait, you cut your hair for the project?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
This is probably why I'd never get into acting.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Well, you've got beautiful hair.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
You would want to-
- TNTrevor Noah
You've got, you've got-
- OBOrlando Bloom
'Cause you're Sam- you're like Samson, right?
- TNTrevor Noah
No, you've got beautiful hair.
- OBOrlando Bloom
[laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
You've got ... I, like, I don't know if I would like the idea of me having to change my appearance for somebody else's ... Also because it might be shit.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Which is sometimes, as you get, like, a little older, you go, "Oh, that could work really well, though. You need to embrace that shit look, right?"
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs] No, what I mean is, like, imagine, imagine making something that's shit, and I cut my hair for it.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Oh, yeah. Right. Oh, I've done so much of that. [laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- OBOrlando Bloom
I've done so much of that. And you go, and well, forget just looking shit, it's, like, the time that you put in.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Like, I attack everything, like, yeah, 110%.
- TNTrevor Noah
I can tell.
- OBOrlando Bloom
I'm, like-
- TNTrevor Noah
I can tell
- OBOrlando Bloom
... I'm, like, fully loaded, committed. So if it doesn't work, it's just a lot of egg on my face and a really bad hairdo.
- 2:36 – 5:12
Extreme weight-cutting for ‘The Cut’: keto, tuna-and-cucumber, and Epsom-salt baths
- TNTrevor Noah
What's the thing you regret doing the most to your body for a project?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Oof. Well, I don't know the answer to that quite yet, but the thing that I just did that I did extreme for my body was a movie I just produced and starred in called The Cut-
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm
- OBOrlando Bloom
... which, um, it's, it's a boxing movie, but kind of it focuses, the fight is not the fight, the fight is the battle to cut, lose the weight.
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh, man.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Cutting is, cutting is losing weight.
- TNTrevor Noah
It's terrible.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah, it's brutal.
- TNTrevor Noah
It's terrible.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And I'm, I'm a boxer kinda having, I've, I'm, I'm a boxer coming out of retirement to have-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
... a last moment of title fight, but what I had to do was transform my body in a major way. And so I'm about, I'm s- as I sit in front of you, I'm about 185. Probably similar to you-ish, right?
- TNTrevor Noah
What, what is that in kilograms?
- OBOrlando Bloom
In pounds. So what is-
- TNTrevor Noah
I don't use fake numbers.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Ooh, I don't know.
- TNTrevor Noah
What's-
- OBOrlando Bloom
I don't know. I don't work in kilograms, but-
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh, do you work in stone?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. [laughs] I used to work in stone.
- TNTrevor Noah
I still don't understand that.
- OBOrlando Bloom
But now I'm like, yeah, I don't understand stone either.
- TNTrevor Noah
Like, the English seem, everything seems correct, and then it's like, "What do you weigh? Stone?"
- OBOrlando Bloom
Stone? I know.
- TNTrevor Noah
2024 and people are-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Well, don't you feel like it was probably 'cause they just had a bag of stones-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, but it feels like that
- OBOrlando Bloom
... and they'd be like, back in the day-
- TNTrevor Noah
But it-
- OBOrlando Bloom
... in medieval times, they had a bag of stones
- 5:12 – 6:49
Why make an extreme-sports series at all? A COVID-era fear response and a pivot in concept
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay, but l- so, so here's a, this is, this is maybe the perfect segue to get into your new show, um, on Peacock. You, you, you've made this new show.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
And what, maybe, maybe why is the f- the most important question for me. I mean-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Not a bad question. [laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, like, like, you, you already make movies.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right.
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Mm.
- TNTrevor Noah
And you're living your life. You're a dad. You're a husband. You ... How and why does Orlando Bloom decide to make a show that isn't, it isn't, like, a cute, easy show, which is what I thought it was gonna be when I first heard of it, you know?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right.
- TNTrevor Noah
They were like, "Oh, this is gonna be, you're gonna be skydiving-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right
- TNTrevor Noah
... and you're gonna be, you're gonna be, you know-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... free diving, and-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right
- TNTrevor Noah
... you're gonna be climbing." I was like, "Oh, this is adorable."
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
"I wanna see you do this."
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
And then I watched it. I was like, "This is, this is work. This is horrible."
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot. I sorta came up with this idea during COVID, but it was, I was just feeling all the fear, you know, around me all the time. You know, we were all, I think that was a really challenging time for the planet, for the world. I mean, actually probably a wonderful time for the planet [laughs] because we, nobody was doing anything. But for the, for, for us humans on the planet-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
... it was a super challenging time, I think we can all agree. And I actually have had this Buddhist practice since I'm 16, and I thought what I'd like to do is meet people, like elders, like wise people, and people who live a long time, because I think we're all so afraid of dying because of this COVID disease, and talk to them. But the, uh, but we didn't really get any bites on that. [laughs] They were like, "How about we just throw you out of a plane down to the bottom of the ocean and, and you know, you can try climbing something?" And I was like, "Yeah, that works with my sort of, uh, that works." That's the other thing that I would sort of probably find-
- 6:49 – 8:58
Adrenaline, dyslexia/ADD, and the focus that comes with fear
- TNTrevor Noah
'Cause you're, you're a, you're an adventure junkie.
- OBOrlando Bloom
You know, I'm, I'm definitely, um, I definitely enjoy the thrills and the adrenaline and the high octane moments in life. And I think part of that is probably down to being, you know, I was diagnosed dyslexic as a kid, but I'm also wasn't diagnosed ADD. There's loads of labels you can give people.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
But like, you know, I think, like that definitely played into who I am, and often, you know, when you're ... Like, when I was a kid, when I was on stage, I was terrified as a, as a child performing on stage. It's where I learned to perform was just at school theaters and stuff.
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- OBOrlando Bloom
But I was never more focused. I was never more present. I was never more in my element-
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh, interesting
- OBOrlando Bloom
... than when I was absolutely shitting myself.
- TNTrevor Noah
You, you, like you didn't have time. I c- I can relate to this, um, as somebody who has ADHD. Your, your brain doesn't have the luxury-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right
- TNTrevor Noah
... of being distracted because you have to con- it's life or death.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right. Right.
- TNTrevor Noah
You know what I mean?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right.
- TNTrevor Noah
There's no, like, checking your texts.
- OBOrlando Bloom
No.
- TNTrevor Noah
There's no-
- OBOrlando Bloom
No
- TNTrevor Noah
... you know, me- meandering off.
- OBOrlando Bloom
You are on this game time.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And if you're not in the moment-
- TNTrevor Noah
Did you, did you feel that as a child? Like, were you, were you, were you cognizant of that as a child, or is it something that you now understand in hindsight?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Do you know, I only really in the last two years started to look at, and this is even before the show, I kind of realized that ADD was something that was definitely part of my life. When I actually had a conversation, and I remember sitting down in an office with somebody, and they gave me a list, and I was like, I started going through the list, and it was just like tick the boxes.
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And I was like, and I just stopped ticking, and I just looked, and then I flipped over, and I just looked, and I went, "Okay, I don't need to ... [laughs] Okay."
- TNTrevor Noah
It was you.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah, I was like, "This is everything." And then I was like, "I don't wanna take a pharmaceutical." I'm English, and I think America has, you know, got a lot of stuff that they do with [laughs] pharmaceuticals.
- TNTrevor Noah
You're, you're not wrong, I'll tell you that much.
- OBOrlando Bloom
So I was like, "I don't wanna take an amphet- a, like something that's gonna get me-
- 8:58 – 10:44
Motorcycles, aggressive focus, and the appeal of anonymity
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah. 'Cause, 'cause what are-
- OBOrlando Bloom
It could have-
- TNTrevor Noah
Like what are some of the things you do? So you, you race motorbikes. I saw you-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right, yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... you race around the track.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
Right, what, do you have a bike right now?
- OBOrlando Bloom
I have, I, I have more than one. I do.
- TNTrevor Noah
What do you, what's your, what's your goat?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Uh, um-
- TNTrevor Noah
I saw the, I saw, I saw the Ducati and the-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. I, I, I'm not riding super fast. I've got an Aprilia that's for track.
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh, those are fun though.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah, it's fast and-
- TNTrevor Noah
Those are nice.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
I've al- I always loved the way the, the engine, like it's such a specific vibration in the engine.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Vibration, yeah. I mean, that whole feeling, I think that, like motorcycles, you know, I started riding motorcycles when I was a kid. I really, um, you know, I had a, I got my, my license when I was 16. I rode a Vespa around town and, you know, I thought I was a cool kid and, you know, then I rode a motorbike in London.
- TNTrevor Noah
Around which, which town is this?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Canterbury. [laughs] Happily on the wall.
- TNTrevor Noah
I feel like London-
- OBOrlando Bloom
That's a joke
- TNTrevor Noah
... London is the least-
- OBOrlando Bloom
London would've been-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, like London, UK, everywhere in the UK is the least Vespa town-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... I can think. Like I ride bicycles everywhere I go in the world-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right
- TNTrevor Noah
... just to get around.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Love that.
- 10:44 – 12:11
The show’s three extreme disciplines: wingsuiting, freediving, and climbing—plus the family factor
- TNTrevor Noah
I'm, I'm, I'm fascinated by this. Did it, for those who know nothing about the show, you essentially choose three, I don't even know if you'd call them sports, 'cause they, they're all extreme. Yeah, I guess they're sports.
- OBOrlando Bloom
They're extreme sports.
- TNTrevor Noah
They're, they're extreme sports. I don't know, it just feels death-defying to me, you know, because you have, um, what, what, do they call it wingsuit flying? What do they call it?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah, wingsuiting.
- TNTrevor Noah
Wingsuiting.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Wingsuiting, yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
You have wing- wingsuiting, where you're basically like a giant squirrel.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
You jump out of a plane, and then you hope for the best.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. [laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
And then you do, um-
- OBOrlando Bloom
It feels like that
- TNTrevor Noah
... you do diving, but-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Freediving
- TNTrevor Noah
... no, freediving. No tanks.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. No tanks.
- TNTrevor Noah
No nothing.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. Terrifying.
- TNTrevor Noah
Essentially like, yeah, you might, might just die coming back up to the surface.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Feels like it, yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
Um, and then you have, uh, rock climbing.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Mm-hmm.
- TNTrevor Noah
But, uh, like all of these-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Kind of the, yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... t- w- talk me through this moment. So you're a dad.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right.
- TNTrevor Noah
Right? You, you are currently with someone.
- OBOrlando Bloom
I am.
- TNTrevor Noah
When you say to them, "Hey, you know what I'm gonna go do?"
- OBOrlando Bloom
[laughs]
- 12:11 – 14:56
Skydiving acceleration and the chute malfunction: protocol under pressure
- OBOrlando Bloom
[laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
'Cause how many jumps did you do in one day, for instance? There's, the, in the first episode, we just see you go jump for jump-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Jump for jump, yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... for jump for jump. How many do you think you did in one day?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Like, the first day was at least five, I think. And then, you know- I mean, the, the time, the accelerated timeframe. I mean, the thing is, is that what's crazy about that is that every increment, everything that you change technically with the gear-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
... whether it's a different chute, like we started with one chute, it's a beginner chute, then you change to another chute, which has a totally different feeling under canopy.
- TNTrevor Noah
Uh-huh.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right? The canopy is the chute. All of these different things come into play, and you're like, and your, and your, and my brain is moving, trying to keep up with the things that I'm learning, and it's a pretty straightforward thing. When you jump out of a plane, one, to release your chute. If that doesn't work, two, you release the chute that didn't work, and three, you're like, I've forgotten what it is.
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- OBOrlando Bloom
It's one, one to release the chute.
- TNTrevor Noah
Jesus. [laughs]
- OBOrlando Bloom
Two to release... Yeah, exactly.
- TNTrevor Noah
It's pretty straightforward.
- OBOrlando Bloom
One to release the chute.
- TNTrevor Noah
It's pretty straightforward, Trevor.
- OBOrlando Bloom
It's pretty straightforward. [laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
You see-
- OBOrlando Bloom
One, two, three.
- TNTrevor Noah
Let me tell you now in the, um, in the, uh, calm space that we, we're recording a podcast in, it's pretty simple, and I, I've forgotten it. And when I-
- OBOrlando Bloom
There are three moves
- TNTrevor Noah
... is this why you need to do it-
- OBOrlando Bloom
That's it, yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... you need to be like-
- OBOrlando Bloom
One, one out the back is the chute.
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Two to release it if it, that didn't work for whatever reason.
- TNTrevor Noah
And then three is on the other side.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah, three to re- to open the second chute. So you have two chutes when you jump.
- TNTrevor Noah
If, if the first chute doesn't open, in, it's a, it's like a one in 1,000 chance-
- 14:56 – 17:03
The paradox of extreme sports: risk-taking people as the most disciplined
- OBOrlando Bloom
It's, it's-
- TNTrevor Noah
Is it-
- OBOrlando Bloom
You know what is really interesting actually, Trevor, is I think what I learned most is that these kind of wild people who do these wild things, they are experts in this, this little area.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Like, people have asked me if I've done any of these things subsequently, and the truth is I haven't. Not because I haven't wanted to, but because I think it's a lifestyle choice. These people are experts. They are, they were the family, they were the people that taught me-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
... how to, how to navigate, and it's protocol. It's like-
- TNTrevor Noah
Well-
- OBOrlando Bloom
... everything you depend on is like, it's like, it's like there's a protocol. You follow that, so long as you're good with your, your, your, your maker.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
You know? Otherwise-
- TNTrevor Noah
But you, but you know what I found? That's a-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... that's actually one of the things I found, like, really fascinating about the show is there's this paradox. You know when you think of extreme sports-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... you think of all the people who are doing everything to risk their lives.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
And the one thing I noticed when watching your show was these people have more discipline-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... than we have-
- OBOrlando Bloom
That's right
- TNTrevor Noah
... when, like, driving on the highway.
- OBOrlando Bloom
That's so true.
- TNTrevor Noah
Like, you know the same way you'll go, "Oh, I'm gonna look at my phone."
- OBOrlando Bloom
That's right.
- TNTrevor Noah
"Let me check a few texts."
- OBOrlando Bloom
That's right.
- TNTrevor Noah
Or-
- OBOrlando Bloom
100%
- TNTrevor Noah
... "Did I put my seatbelt?" Eh. No. The people who do extreme sports are the most disciplined people-
- 17:03 – 24:01
Fame’s early peaks, burnout, and chasing feeling through edges
- TNTrevor Noah
Wait, even at this stage in your life?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
'Cause I, I would assume that you feel accomplished all the time.
- OBOrlando Bloom
No.
- TNTrevor Noah
I mean, that could be-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Not really.
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh.
- OBOrlando Bloom
I mean, I feel like, I think, you know, so young to have had so much great good fortune-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
... and to have come out the gate, but not really knowing, you know, my ass from my elbow and just, like... I mean, that's not true. I trained, I went to, I c- I always do this to myself. But somehow, yeah-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
... I think, you know, I think it's, I think it's only really getting interesting for me now in some ways in this, I don't know how, you're, you're, you're, you're a few years younger than me, right? You're, like, we're, you're like, I'm, I'm, like, 47.
- TNTrevor Noah
I just, I, oh, I just turned 40.
- OBOrlando Bloom
So there you go. Right. So it's like, yeah. So it's-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, but my, but my journey was, you know, as, as much as you, you went to school and you, and you studied, th- there's a strange curse I, I, I'll think about for people who experienced the pinnacle, and I mean the absolute pinnacle of success.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
Like, think about it. You, you come out of drama school. It, it was what? Your, your, your last week?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Two days before I finished, yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
There you go.
- OBOrlando Bloom
That I heard. But I mean, yeah, yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
And then you get Lord of the Rings, right?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. I mean, I'd been auditioning for months, but yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, but this is what, but they give you-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Still crazy
- TNTrevor Noah
... so they, no, they give you the announcement, so they go-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Crazy
- TNTrevor Noah
... "All right. Lord of the Rings. It's on."
- OBOrlando Bloom
Mm.
- TNTrevor Noah
Even at that point, people knew that this was gonna be one of the biggest films ever made because it was based on one of the biggest books ever. It was, it was-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right
- 24:01 – 26:42
Rebuilding the “skipped steps”: theater roots, craft, and finding meaning in less-seen work
- OBOrlando Bloom
... it's like, but you know what I think I was missing? Before I got cast in Lord of the Rings, my agent in London had called me and said, "The RSC's interested in you coming to work, you know, coming to be in rep and work with the RSC."
- TNTrevor Noah
Uh-huh.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And I was like, "Well, hey, baby, I've landed. This is it." Because in England, it was like you go to theater.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yes.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Maybe you get a bit of telly.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yes.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And then you go and do a movie.
- TNTrevor Noah
Right.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And I was like, "Well, let's go. What are we waiting for? Let's go. I'm ready. You know, pull me. Let's go." You know? But she, she never, she never let on a thing, by the way, about, you know, the, the, about what was happening with Rings. And I was, like, probably ADD still, just going out on all these auditions, which I get pulled out for. I think I auditioned on tape for Baz Luhrmann, like, five or six times for Moulin Rouge, and I, I kinda just did all of these, and I would go up for all sorts of auditions, and it was like, that's a skill as well. That's a muscle, right, to learn how to be in a room and audition.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yes. Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
So I was, like, not thinking about anything, and then she gave me that call about Rings. So I was like, "Wait, what?" But I often think, I wonder what my life would've been like, because in a way, I missed this part of my career. You know, so I went back and did Romeo and Juliet on Broadway. I went back and did a play in the West End. I went back t- a couple of times. I feel like, in a way, this, the, the things that I've been doing in the last few years, you know, I did this crazy movie called, they renamed it Retaliation. It was originally Romans. I got these cr- it, it dropped during COVID. I got these crazy reviews. I got some of the best reviews of my career, actually. It was wild. [laughs] It was like, it's a-
- TNTrevor Noah
It's beautiful
- OBOrlando Bloom
... it w-
- TNTrevor Noah
D- Did that-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Nobody, it w-
- TNTrevor Noah
Did that fill something in-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Literally, the thing, I think one of the reporters, just to say, said-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
... "Orlando Bloom must be really gutted right now because he's just done some of his best work and nobody's gonna see this movie." [laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
Oh, man. [laughs]
- OBOrlando Bloom
It was like, I was like, I was like, "Great."
- TNTrevor Noah
Do you think, do you think it filled something in you that you didn't know you needed filled? Because-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Filling. I think I'm filling.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah?
- OBOrlando Bloom
I think it's a tank where it's like, look, I think, you know, we're all on this journey, right? We're all in our own fields, in our own respective fields.
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- OBOrlando Bloom
We've all got goals that we maybe look to, and when you've, when you've had so many met at such a young age, then you're like, "I need to..." I kinda was going back to basics. I was like, "Okay, what, how am I gonna... I need to kinda do this." I, I, I skipped a step.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
You know what I mean?
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- 26:42 – 32:52
Falling three floors and crushing T12: the accident that almost ended his career—and walking again
- TNTrevor Noah
We're gonna continue this conversation right after this short break. One of the more interesting parts of the, of the show is learning that you essentially, did you break your back or did you, what did you do to it?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. I, I fell three floors and I, I crushed T12.
- TNTrevor Noah
I, I need to understand what happened because you-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... obviously you allude to it and then we see the pictures of you in the hospital and we-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... and essentially there's a moment where doctors said, "Hey, you're never gonna walk again."
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
So explain to me what happened. Where were you? How do you fall three floors? 'Cause they just say that in passing, "He fell three floors."
- OBOrlando Bloom
[laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
And I was like, how, where do you fall three floors? I've, I don't know-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah, yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... how that's possible.
- OBOrlando Bloom
So I was in my second year at drama school. I'd just finished a, like, s- we'd had this five-a-side soccer match with the other drama schools. We'd gone to a pub. I'd had one-
- TNTrevor Noah
Did you, wait, did you win or lose? I need the details. Any time there's, there's a football-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... match, I need to know the-
- OBOrlando Bloom
I can't imagine that we won. [laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- OBOrlando Bloom
We weren't, we weren't the winning side-
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay, got it
- OBOrlando Bloom
... in memory.
- TNTrevor Noah
Got it.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Um, I probably blank that out. Um, I'd gone to a pub with everyone afterwards, had a Sunday roast and maybe one pint. Not like I was a big drinker, never been a big drinker. And then I went over to these, these friends' house in, in Chepstow Villas in, in, in, in Notting Hill, and I, uh, they'd just moved in, these, these two girlfriends of mine, and they'd, they'd, they'd had this fourth floor apartment. And the s- the stairwell that went up to the flat had a landing below their fourth floor apartment, and the door, they said, "Oh, we, we can't get that door open, but there's a roof terrace for us to use and we're gonna put plants and stuff." And I was like, "Oh, it just needs to be kicked in from the outside." So anyway, I was like, "You'll have to get that." Anyway, we walked into the apartment. I was like, "Wow, this is such a great apartment." I looked out the window. This is the ADD impulsiveness, right?
- TNTrevor Noah
Yes.
- OBOrlando Bloom
This is a-
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay
- OBOrlando Bloom
... this is 100% what that is.
- TNTrevor Noah
I'm seeing it now.
- OBOrlando Bloom
I looked out the window. I was like, "Oh, wow." I looked to the south. I said, "Oh, wow, there's the roof terrace." And I kid you the l- the roof terrace is probably from this chair to where, you know, a meter and a half to the left.
- 32:52 – 41:52
Climbing as the real fear: knots, trust, adaptive athletes, and Buddhist chanting under stress
- TNTrevor Noah
When you are now climbing, it wa- it was interesting, of, of all the, of all the sports you were participating in, the first time you looked uncomfortable to me was when you had to climb. So jumping out of an airplane, you were like, "Ah, tell me the rules. How does this go?"
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right.
- TNTrevor Noah
There's even a point where you come in really hot o- o- on one of your parachute landings. I thought you were gonna break your legs.
- OBOrlando Bloom
[laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
And you were just like, "Ha ha. Did you guys see that? Did I scare you? Ha ha ha." And you just carry on.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
You really just carry on. The first time where it just felt like a little bit of your swag disappeared-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... was when you had to climb.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah. There, there's two things I wanted to know about that, is, like, one, what did you learn about getting over your fears or your traumas in that experience and in that moment, and did you? And then the second one is, how did you, how did you put that much trust in people who you'd never really met-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... never spent any time with-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right
- TNTrevor Noah
... but fundamentally had to believe-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... had your best interest at heart?
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah. Overcoming the fear was, um, was a sort of... I've had this sort of unique trust in life since I'm very young, and there's not really any rhyme or reason for it. But I just mentally went to that place, which I think you do when you're in, when it's game time. When you're like, "This is it. I'm on." The most challenging thing, the fearful thing about that, by the way, was, was for me, was with parts of my dyslexia and other things, was, like, these knots.
- TNTrevor Noah
Learning, learning to tie the knots.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And all these, these knots.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And these, and when you're gonna move these things.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
It, it's just like-
- TNTrevor Noah
The loop goes that way, and if you go the other way-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah
- TNTrevor Noah
... then it's wrong and, and it's, yeah, yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And then it's like, and if you go the wrong way... So that was, like, I just had to commit to the process and be as present to it as possible, and trust that this was something that was meant for me, and that I'm on this journey and I'm committing to it, so I'm gonna go like I do, 110%, you know, and I'm gonna go into it. And the really hard part was the second part to your question, which was trusting. And meeting Mo for the first time, and who is an adaptive climber, who has climbed since she's a child with one hand, born with one hand. So her spirit and her confidence and the twinkle in her eyes was really kind of leading me forward, and I was like, "Look, if she can do this and she's telling me I can do this, I can do this." But I was, I, I had terrible potty mouth on that shot. [laughs]
- TNTrevor Noah
[laughs]
- OBOrlando Bloom
They beeped me about a million times, because I was so, I was, there were points where p- p- p- muscles in my back and in my body that I didn't even, hadn't, you know, existed-
- 41:52 – 48:34
Katy Perry, purpose, and the push to evolve—plus Trevor’s take on risk and “no questions at my funeral”
- TNTrevor Noah
So the other thing I learned was you, one of the parts of the show that's, I mean, it, in, in time it probably takes no time in the show, but it has I think some of the most gravitas in the show. It's, it's the moments where you're talking to Katy.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah, yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
And it, it's, it's beautiful because it showed me something about the two of you that is very difficult for people to understand until you see it.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
And it's that you seem to be pursuing a life of purpose, a, a life of, of peace, and also strangely enough, like a li- a life of normalcy.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Yeah.
- TNTrevor Noah
Which is strange because, like, Katy Perry, one of the biggest pop stars that's ever lived, Orlando Bloom, one of the biggest actors that's ever been, you know, like the movies. No, really.
- OBOrlando Bloom
No.
- TNTrevor Noah
The blockbusters. You name it, trilogy after trilogy.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right, right.
- TNTrevor Noah
But it's, there's this strange thing where it seems like the two of you have found a connection that exists in peace and normalcy. And, like, and I could be wrong. You could just be like, "Nope-
- OBOrlando Bloom
No, no, you're right
- TNTrevor Noah
... wrong read."
- OBOrlando Bloom
I, I think one of the things that I fell in love with with Katy was, like, I didn't really ... Um, she hates when I say this, so I have to word it carefully, but, um, her music was everywhere, right? When I came up, it was just on every radio station. But I wasn't conscious of, like, I wasn't what I was listening to, but, like, I fell in love with this, with Catherine, this girl from Santa Barbara, you know? And by the way, parents pastors living on food stamps.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
We're not talking glamorous-
- TNTrevor Noah
Right
- OBOrlando Bloom
... Montecito, like, or Santa Barbara.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, it's, it's the side of Santa Barbara no one knows.
- OBOrlando Bloom
It's the side-
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
... that no one knows. And we both understand, I think, we both meet each other with understanding where we came from, what, what we worked to do, what we had to do to get to where we got to.
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm.
- OBOrlando Bloom
And she definitely demands that I evolve, [laughs] right? And I feel I do the same for her, and that makes for fireworks, pardon the pun, but it also makes for a lot of fun and a lot of growth. And, you know, I wouldn't change it for anything, even when sometimes it feels like, how do we do this?
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Because we've got these two giant careers and lives, and, and hers is even, you know, there's even, it's like a universe sometimes.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah, yeah.
- OBOrlando Bloom
But I think I just keep coming back to her and trying to, like, hold her hand and walk her back to the sandpit and be like, "Yeah, but this is, we're just gonna build a sandcastle," you know? And she loves to do that, too. She's like, she's like, "Oh, yeah, the sandcastle," or the ride of the bike. You know, the, the little, the little moments that, that, that ... And she's a master at helping to, you know, do, create the, help, help to keep building those moments, you know? So I try to, I try to hold a space big enough. I try to be big enough. I think even, you could even say in the show it was like me proving to myself-
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm
- OBOrlando Bloom
... that I was man enough, big enough, whatever, capable enough. 'Cause part of it was I learned to be capable in that show.
- 48:34 – 52:50
‘What now?’: Orlando’s trifecta—career, UNICEF, family—and simplifying for the next life
- TNTrevor Noah
Before I let you go, I'll ask you the question I ask everyone who comes on, on the podcast. And thank you again for joining me. You know, I, I-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Thanks for having me, man
- TNTrevor Noah
... appreciate the time, the, the conversation.
- OBOrlando Bloom
I love it.
- TNTrevor Noah
You, you being candid.
- OBOrlando Bloom
Love what you're doing here.
- TNTrevor Noah
What now? Like, what, what does, what does Orlando seek to do now? Because again, you, you have sort of- Done the same thing that you did with Lord of the Rings and Pir- this is another trilogy, but this is a personal trilogy
- OBOrlando Bloom
Right, right, right
- TNTrevor Noah
Where do you wanna see yourself going from here?
- OBOrlando Bloom
I have these, like, three visions. If I can make good on this promise that I made to myself that, that, for my career, right?
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
Like, if I can make good on this promise, then I'll be able to use what I've been doing there f- to, to support my work, like which, UNICEF, which I've done for like 20 years-
- TNTrevor Noah
Mm-hmm
- OBOrlando Bloom
... which I find, like, to be the most rewarding thing in my life, outside of my family.
- TNTrevor Noah
Right
- OBOrlando Bloom
So if I keep moving those three around, so it's just, it's a qui-
- TNTrevor Noah
Family
- OBOrlando Bloom
Family-
- TNTrevor Noah
The, the-
- OBOrlando Bloom
Not in any specific order, but family
- TNTrevor Noah
Normally, yeah, yeah, family
- OBOrlando Bloom
It's just like if I, if I, my career's going-
- TNTrevor Noah
Right
- OBOrlando Bloom
... if I'm con- if I keep just showing up for my career-
- TNTrevor Noah
Okay
- OBOrlando Bloom
... and it keeps working, then it gives me a, a greater platform to keep working on UNICEF, which is really something that I think they do amazing work.
- TNTrevor Noah
Yeah
- OBOrlando Bloom
And then, you know, and then my c- family will be taken care of, and that's the most important thing to me
- TNTrevor Noah
Interesting, and so it's a trifecta that keeps going, that keeps w-
- OBOrlando Bloom
It's a trifecta that just keeps working
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