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Orlando Bloom's Life On The Edge! - What Now? with Trevor Noah Podcast

Re-Release For YouTube. This episode of What Now? with Trevor Noah originally aired on 04/18/2024.

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Transcript

0:00 – 0:01

Intro

Trevor Noah 0:00 [upbeat music]

0:01 – 1:40

Zombie-apocalypse banter and Orlando’s “weapon skills” as an actor

Trevor Noah 0:01 If there was a zombie apocalypse and we had essentially just the tools on the ground, I would hope to be near you.

Orlando Bloom 0:09 I don't know if that would be-

Trevor Noah 0:09 No, no, no, you, you, you, you're pretty nice with it.

Orlando Bloom 0:11 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 0:11 I've seen you with almost every weapon. You're pretty nice with it.

Orlando Bloom 0:15 Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I'll take it.

Trevor Noah 0:17 You could, you could kill-

Orlando Bloom 0:17 I'm not sure it's, uh-

Trevor Noah 0:18 You could kill a few zombies

Orlando Bloom 0:18 You know, it is called acting as well. You know, there's my Camarus aspect.

Trevor Noah 0:21 No, no, no, no, no, no. [upbeat music] This is What Now? With Trevor Noah. You know, one of the weirdest things about doing an introduction when somebody's sitting next to you is that you want to give an introduction that's as honest as possible, but also as effusive as possible without making it seem like you're doing it to them. So just act like you're not here-

Orlando Bloom 0:53 Right, right

Trevor Noah 0:53 ... while I speak about you.

Orlando Bloom 0:54 [laughs] I'm not here.

Trevor Noah 0:55 Yeah. I'm chatting to Orlando Bloom today, um, who is arguably one of the most recognizable faces in the world because he has been, I mean, the lead in some of the biggest movies that have shaped our lives, I was thinking about the other day. And, uh, we're gonna be chatting today on the podcast because today he's, uh, he's, he's, uh, embarking on a different journey where it's a, it's a different type of trilogy. As epic, I would say, as, as Lord of the Rings and Pirates of the Caribbean, only in this story he could actually die.

Orlando Bloom 1:28 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 1:29 He doesn't. Spoiler alert, he's here. This is the great news.

Orlando Bloom 1:31 I'm still here. Yeah, yeah.

Trevor Noah 1:32 He's here.

Orlando Bloom 1:32 Came close, though. Came close a couple of times.

Trevor Noah 1:33 Yeah, yeah. Came close, but, but spoiler alert, he's here.

Orlando Bloom 1:36 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 1:36 So, uh, Orlando Bloom, welcome to the podcast.

Orlando Bloom 1:38 Thanks for having me, man. It's great to see you.

1:40 – 2:36

Haircuts, physical transformations, and the risk of committing to a bad project

Trevor Noah 1:40 By the way, when did you, when did you cut the hair?

Orlando Bloom 1:42 I just finished working in London, um, on this, this movie, and, um, we cut it for that. So, um-

Trevor Noah 1:48 Wait, you cut your hair for the project?

Orlando Bloom 1:50 Yeah. Yeah.

Trevor Noah 1:51 This is probably why I'd never get into acting.

Orlando Bloom 1:53 Well, you've got beautiful hair.

Trevor Noah 1:54 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 1:54 You would want to-

Trevor Noah 1:55 You've got, you've got-

Orlando Bloom 1:55 'Cause you're Sam- you're like Samson, right?

Trevor Noah 1:56 No, you've got beautiful hair.

Orlando Bloom 1:57 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 1:58 You've got ... I, like, I don't know if I would like the idea of me having to change my appearance for somebody else's ... Also because it might be shit.

Orlando Bloom 2:06 Which is sometimes, as you get, like, a little older, you go, "Oh, that could work really well, though. You need to embrace that shit look, right?"

Trevor Noah 2:12 [laughs] No, what I mean is, like, imagine, imagine making something that's shit, and I cut my hair for it.

Orlando Bloom 2:18 Oh, yeah. Right. Oh, I've done so much of that. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 2:22 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 2:22 I've done so much of that. And you go, and well, forget just looking shit, it's, like, the time that you put in.

Trevor Noah 2:26 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 2:26 Like, I attack everything, like, yeah, 110%.

Trevor Noah 2:29 I can tell.

Orlando Bloom 2:30 I'm, like-

Trevor Noah 2:30 I can tell

Orlando Bloom 2:30 ... I'm, like, fully loaded, committed. So if it doesn't work, it's just a lot of egg on my face and a really bad hairdo.

2:36 – 5:12

Extreme weight-cutting for ‘The Cut’: keto, tuna-and-cucumber, and Epsom-salt baths

Trevor Noah 2:36 What's the thing you regret doing the most to your body for a project?

Orlando Bloom 2:40 Oof. Well, I don't know the answer to that quite yet, but the thing that I just did that I did extreme for my body was a movie I just produced and starred in called The Cut-

Trevor Noah 2:53 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 2:55 ... which, um, it's, it's a boxing movie, but kind of it focuses, the fight is not the fight, the fight is the battle to cut, lose the weight.

Trevor Noah 3:02 Oh, man.

Orlando Bloom 3:03 Cutting is, cutting is losing weight.

Trevor Noah 3:04 It's terrible.

Orlando Bloom 3:05 Yeah, it's brutal.

Trevor Noah 3:05 It's terrible.

Orlando Bloom 3:06 And I'm, I'm a boxer kinda having, I've, I'm, I'm a boxer coming out of retirement to have-

Trevor Noah 3:10 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 3:10 ... a last moment of title fight, but what I had to do was transform my body in a major way. And so I'm about, I'm s- as I sit in front of you, I'm about 185. Probably similar to you-ish, right?

Trevor Noah 3:19 What, what is that in kilograms?

Orlando Bloom 3:19 In pounds. So what is-

Trevor Noah 3:20 I don't use fake numbers.

Orlando Bloom 3:22 Ooh, I don't know.

Trevor Noah 3:22 What's-

Orlando Bloom 3:22 I don't know. I don't work in kilograms, but-

Trevor Noah 3:23 Oh, do you work in stone?

Orlando Bloom 3:25 Yeah. [laughs] I used to work in stone.

Trevor Noah 3:26 I still don't understand that.

Orlando Bloom 3:26 But now I'm like, yeah, I don't understand stone either.

Trevor Noah 3:29 Like, the English seem, everything seems correct, and then it's like, "What do you weigh? Stone?"

Orlando Bloom 3:33 Stone? I know.

Trevor Noah 3:35 2024 and people are-

Orlando Bloom 3:36 Well, don't you feel like it was probably 'cause they just had a bag of stones-

Trevor Noah 3:38 Yeah, but it feels like that

Orlando Bloom 3:39 ... and they'd be like, back in the day-

Trevor Noah 3:40 But it-

Orlando Bloom 3:40 ... in medieval times, they had a bag of stones

Trevor Noah 3:42 But it's weird for that to be now.

Orlando Bloom 3:43 Still.

Trevor Noah 3:43 Like, literally in this day and age-

Orlando Bloom 3:44 Oh, there's a lot of things that are quite unusual about-

Trevor Noah 3:45 You, you know, it's like, "Oh, the economy. Oh, there's the GDP."

Orlando Bloom 3:48 Yeah. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 3:48 And, you know, "Oh, yeah, the, the new Teslas. Oh, yeah, electricity."

Orlando Bloom 3:51 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 3:51 "How many stones does he weigh?"

Orlando Bloom 3:53 [laughs] Yeah, how many stones? So but anyway, 185 pounds, I dropped to 152.

Trevor Noah 4:00 185 pounds.

Orlando Bloom 4:01 So I dropped 35-

Trevor Noah 4:02 If that's, like-

Orlando Bloom 4:03 30, 30-ish pounds

Trevor Noah 4:03 Okay. I think I know what that is. That's, like-

Orlando Bloom 4:05 Which is-

Trevor Noah 4:05 ... 70-something, 80, 80-something kilograms.

Orlando Bloom 4:07 It was brutal. Um-

Trevor Noah 4:08 How long did that take you?

Orlando Bloom 4:10 I worked with, uh, a really great nutritionist in Santa Monica. He basically tethered me. He sort of tiered me down on food, and so I started just stripping out carbs and basically was running mostly keto, if you've heard of that.

Trevor Noah 4:23 Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 4:23 You know, that kind of fat thing.

Trevor Noah 4:25 Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 4:25 And then I ended up just eating tuna and cucumber-

Trevor Noah 4:28 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 4:29 ... was basically it.

Trevor Noah 4:30 Not worth it.

Orlando Bloom 4:30 And-

Trevor Noah 4:31 Not worth it

Orlando Bloom 4:32 ... and then what I did to make the last step, I actually had this hot Epsom salt bath, which is a technique that boxers use. I dropped 10 pounds in one night. I had 25 pounds of Epsom salt in a boiling hot bath up to my neck.

Trevor Noah 4:46 So what, what does it, what does it do exactly? I've heard about this, but I don't understand what it does.

Orlando Bloom 4:49 It's like osmosis of some sort, I think. It's like, 'cause I had to basically drink two liters of water afterwards. I went to bed, and I woke up, and I stepped on the scale, and I'd been on the scale, like, looking at my weight obsessively.

Trevor Noah 4:59 Right.

Orlando Bloom 4:59 So the movie really is, is about the complexities of, you know-

Trevor Noah 5:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah

Orlando Bloom 5:05 ... the masculine as it looks at weight loss, weight gain, all of those things. But yeah, it was brutal.

5:12 – 6:49

Why make an extreme-sports series at all? A COVID-era fear response and a pivot in concept

Trevor Noah 5:12 Okay, but l- so, so here's a, this is, this is maybe the perfect segue to get into your new show, um, on Peacock. You, you, you've made this new show.

Orlando Bloom 5:22 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 5:22 And what, maybe, maybe why is the f- the most important question for me. I mean-

Orlando Bloom 5:27 Not a bad question. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 5:28 Yeah, like, like, you, you already make movies.

Orlando Bloom 5:30 Right.

Trevor Noah 5:31 Okay?

Orlando Bloom 5:31 Mm.

Trevor Noah 5:32 And you're living your life. You're a dad. You're a husband. You ... How and why does Orlando Bloom decide to make a show that isn't, it isn't, like, a cute, easy show, which is what I thought it was gonna be when I first heard of it, you know?

Orlando Bloom 5:47 Right.

Trevor Noah 5:47 They were like, "Oh, this is gonna be, you're gonna be skydiving-

Orlando Bloom 5:49 Right

Trevor Noah 5:49 ... and you're gonna be, you're gonna be, you know-

Orlando Bloom 5:51 Yeah

Trevor Noah 5:51 ... free diving, and-

Orlando Bloom 5:52 Right

Trevor Noah 5:52 ... you're gonna be climbing." I was like, "Oh, this is adorable."

Orlando Bloom 5:54 Yeah. Yeah.

Trevor Noah 5:54 "I wanna see you do this."

Orlando Bloom 5:55 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 5:55 And then I watched it. I was like, "This is, this is work. This is horrible."

Orlando Bloom 5:59 Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot. I sorta came up with this idea during COVID, but it was, I was just feeling all the fear, you know, around me all the time. You know, we were all, I think that was a really challenging time for the planet, for the world. I mean, actually probably a wonderful time for the planet [laughs] because we, nobody was doing anything. But for the, for, for us humans on the planet-

Trevor Noah 6:17 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 6:17 ... it was a super challenging time, I think we can all agree. And I actually have had this Buddhist practice since I'm 16, and I thought what I'd like to do is meet people, like elders, like wise people, and people who live a long time, because I think we're all so afraid of dying because of this COVID disease, and talk to them. But the, uh, but we didn't really get any bites on that. [laughs] They were like, "How about we just throw you out of a plane down to the bottom of the ocean and, and you know, you can try climbing something?" And I was like, "Yeah, that works with my sort of, uh, that works." That's the other thing that I would sort of probably find-

6:49 – 8:58

Adrenaline, dyslexia/ADD, and the focus that comes with fear

Trevor Noah 6:49 'Cause you're, you're a, you're an adventure junkie.

Orlando Bloom 6:52 You know, I'm, I'm definitely, um, I definitely enjoy the thrills and the adrenaline and the high octane moments in life. And I think part of that is probably down to being, you know, I was diagnosed dyslexic as a kid, but I'm also wasn't diagnosed ADD. There's loads of labels you can give people.

Trevor Noah 7:12 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 7:12 But like, you know, I think, like that definitely played into who I am, and often, you know, when you're ... Like, when I was a kid, when I was on stage, I was terrified as a, as a child performing on stage. It's where I learned to perform was just at school theaters and stuff.

Trevor Noah 7:28 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 7:29 But I was never more focused. I was never more present. I was never more in my element-

Trevor Noah 7:33 Oh, interesting

Orlando Bloom 7:33 ... than when I was absolutely shitting myself.

Trevor Noah 7:36 You, you, like you didn't have time. I c- I can relate to this, um, as somebody who has ADHD. Your, your brain doesn't have the luxury-

Orlando Bloom 7:44 Right

Trevor Noah 7:44 ... of being distracted because you have to con- it's life or death.

Orlando Bloom 7:48 Right. Right.

Trevor Noah 7:48 You know what I mean?

Orlando Bloom 7:49 Right.

Trevor Noah 7:49 There's no, like, checking your texts.

Orlando Bloom 7:51 No.

Trevor Noah 7:51 There's no-

Orlando Bloom 7:52 No

Trevor Noah 7:52 ... you know, me- meandering off.

Orlando Bloom 7:53 You are on this game time.

Trevor Noah 7:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 7:54 And if you're not in the moment-

Trevor Noah 7:55 Did you, did you feel that as a child? Like, were you, were you, were you cognizant of that as a child, or is it something that you now understand in hindsight?

Orlando Bloom 8:02 Do you know, I only really in the last two years started to look at, and this is even before the show, I kind of realized that ADD was something that was definitely part of my life. When I actually had a conversation, and I remember sitting down in an office with somebody, and they gave me a list, and I was like, I started going through the list, and it was just like tick the boxes.

Trevor Noah 8:20 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 8:21 And I was like, and I just stopped ticking, and I just looked, and then I flipped over, and I just looked, and I went, "Okay, I don't need to ... [laughs] Okay."

Trevor Noah 8:29 It was you.

Orlando Bloom 8:29 Yeah, I was like, "This is everything." And then I was like, "I don't wanna take a pharmaceutical." I'm English, and I think America has, you know, got a lot of stuff that they do with [laughs] pharmaceuticals.

Trevor Noah 8:39 You're, you're not wrong, I'll tell you that much.

Orlando Bloom 8:40 So I was like, "I don't wanna take an amphet- a, like something that's gonna get me-

Trevor Noah 8:44 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 8:44 ... um, fired from coffee.

Trevor Noah 8:45 You didn't want to take like a stimulant.

Orlando Bloom 8:46 I didn't want to take a stimulant.

Trevor Noah 8:48 You didn't want to take a-

Orlando Bloom 8:48 And I'd been raw dogging it for so long that I was like, "Listen, this is my character, guys. You know, love me or leave me." But I think my partner was like, "Okay, you know, like, that doesn't work for somebody who's got OCD." [laughs]

Trevor Noah 8:57 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 8:58 You know what I mean?

8:58 – 10:44

Motorcycles, aggressive focus, and the appeal of anonymity

Trevor Noah 8:58 Yeah. 'Cause, 'cause what are-

Orlando Bloom 8:59 It could have-

Trevor Noah 8:59 Like what are some of the things you do? So you, you race motorbikes. I saw you-

Orlando Bloom 9:03 Right, yeah

Trevor Noah 9:03 ... you race around the track.

Orlando Bloom 9:04 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 9:04 Right, what, do you have a bike right now?

Orlando Bloom 9:06 I have, I, I have more than one. I do.

Trevor Noah 9:07 What do you, what's your, what's your goat?

Orlando Bloom 9:09 Uh, um-

Trevor Noah 9:09 I saw the, I saw, I saw the Ducati and the-

Orlando Bloom 9:11 Yeah. I, I, I'm not riding super fast. I've got an Aprilia that's for track.

Trevor Noah 9:15 Oh, those are fun though.

Orlando Bloom 9:16 Yeah, it's fast and-

Trevor Noah 9:16 Those are nice.

Orlando Bloom 9:17 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 9:17 I've al- I always loved the way the, the engine, like it's such a specific vibration in the engine.

Orlando Bloom 9:22 Vibration, yeah. I mean, that whole feeling, I think that, like motorcycles, you know, I started riding motorcycles when I was a kid. I really, um, you know, I had a, I got my, my license when I was 16. I rode a Vespa around town and, you know, I thought I was a cool kid and, you know, then I rode a motorbike in London.

Trevor Noah 9:36 Around which, which town is this?

Orlando Bloom 9:38 Canterbury. [laughs] Happily on the wall.

Trevor Noah 9:41 I feel like London-

Orlando Bloom 9:41 That's a joke

Trevor Noah 9:42 ... London is the least-

Orlando Bloom 9:42 London would've been-

Trevor Noah 9:43 Yeah, like London, UK, everywhere in the UK is the least Vespa town-

Orlando Bloom 9:47 Yeah

Trevor Noah 9:47 ... I can think. Like I ride bicycles everywhere I go in the world-

Orlando Bloom 9:49 Right

Trevor Noah 9:50 ... just to get around.

Orlando Bloom 9:51 Love that.

Trevor Noah 9:51 London, I'm terrified.

Orlando Bloom 9:52 Yes. Yes.

Trevor Noah 9:53 I'm ter- there's more ... I, I remember even seeing the stats once, and it's like it's one of the most dangerous places to ride bicycles in.

Orlando Bloom 9:59 Yes. It is.

Trevor Noah 9:59 'Cause your-

Orlando Bloom 10:00 I'm sure

Trevor Noah 10:00 ... your drivers in the UK, they have like a, they're almost angry at you for being on a bicycle and passing them in the traffic.

Orlando Bloom 10:08 For, yeah.

Trevor Noah 10:09 Do you know what I mean?

Orlando Bloom 10:09 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 10:09 There's like a, "Ugh."

Orlando Bloom 10:11 Yeah. It's like, "Mm." Yeah, yeah.

Trevor Noah 10:13 You know?

Orlando Bloom 10:13 It's true. It's true. You're getting ahead of us. It's like a massive-

Trevor Noah 10:16 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 10:16 ... it's like a sort of a race, which actually I've, I think I've, I inherited a bit of that in my driving style, which is like, like aggressive, and it's you're racing through the streets. I mean, I'm, people hate being in the car with me. They think I'm dangerous, but I think I'm super focused. [laughs] But I am, it is like I'm racing everybody, so it's like, I'm like, "Okay, I need to just take a chill pill." Um, because I think there's a lot to learn from that as well, right? A bit of grace.

Trevor Noah 10:42 Yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 10:42 A bit of grace. I'm considering more.

10:44 – 12:11

The show’s three extreme disciplines: wingsuiting, freediving, and climbing—plus the family factor

Trevor Noah 10:44 I'm, I'm, I'm fascinated by this. Did it, for those who know nothing about the show, you essentially choose three, I don't even know if you'd call them sports, 'cause they, they're all extreme. Yeah, I guess they're sports.

Orlando Bloom 10:58 They're extreme sports.

Trevor Noah 10:59 They're, they're extreme sports. I don't know, it just feels death-defying to me, you know, because you have, um, what, what, do they call it wingsuit flying? What do they call it?

Orlando Bloom 11:07 Yeah, wingsuiting.

Trevor Noah 11:08 Wingsuiting.

Orlando Bloom 11:09 Wingsuiting, yeah.

Trevor Noah 11:09 You have wing- wingsuiting, where you're basically like a giant squirrel.

Orlando Bloom 11:12 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 11:13 You jump out of a plane, and then you hope for the best.

Orlando Bloom 11:15 Yeah. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 11:15 And then you do, um-

Orlando Bloom 11:16 It feels like that

Trevor Noah 11:16 ... you do diving, but-

Orlando Bloom 11:18 Freediving

Trevor Noah 11:19 ... no, freediving. No tanks.

Orlando Bloom 11:20 Yeah. No tanks.

Trevor Noah 11:20 No nothing.

Orlando Bloom 11:20 Yeah. Terrifying.

Trevor Noah 11:21 Essentially like, yeah, you might, might just die coming back up to the surface.

Orlando Bloom 11:24 Feels like it, yeah.

Trevor Noah 11:25 Um, and then you have, uh, rock climbing.

Orlando Bloom 11:28 Mm-hmm.

Trevor Noah 11:29 But, uh, like all of these-

Orlando Bloom 11:32 Kind of the, yeah

Trevor Noah 11:33 ... t- w- talk me through this moment. So you're a dad.

Orlando Bloom 11:36 Right.

Trevor Noah 11:37 Right? You, you are currently with someone.

Orlando Bloom 11:39 I am.

Trevor Noah 11:40 When you say to them, "Hey, you know what I'm gonna go do?"

Orlando Bloom 11:43 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 11:44 "I'm gonna go learn how to jump out of a plane, and I'm gonna do this in two weeks. I'm gonna get my jumping license."

Orlando Bloom 11:50 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 11:51 "My skydiving license. You know the one that normally takes months?"

Orlando Bloom 11:53 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 11:53 "Yeah, I'm gonna do that in, in a week."

Orlando Bloom 11:55 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 11:55 "I'm gonna get qualified."

Orlando Bloom 11:57 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 11:57 "And then I'm gonna start wingsuiting." Which I don't-

Orlando Bloom 11:59 Which I don't think anyone's done before, actually.

Trevor Noah 12:00 No, I don't think, I don't, I've never-

Orlando Bloom 12:01 We're gonna find out.

Trevor Noah 12:02 I've never heard of anybody doing this.

Orlando Bloom 12:03 Do you think I could get a, do you think I could ... Somebody said to me the other day, "Maybe you could go for, like, one of those, uh, Guinness Book of Records for, like, the quickest to, uh, to wingsuit."

Trevor Noah 12:09 You might, you might actually have it.

12:11 – 14:56

Skydiving acceleration and the chute malfunction: protocol under pressure

Orlando Bloom 12:11 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 12:11 'Cause how many jumps did you do in one day, for instance? There's, the, in the first episode, we just see you go jump for jump-

Orlando Bloom 12:16 Jump for jump, yeah

Trevor Noah 12:17 ... for jump for jump. How many do you think you did in one day?

Orlando Bloom 12:19 Like, the first day was at least five, I think. And then, you know- I mean, the, the time, the accelerated timeframe. I mean, the thing is, is that what's crazy about that is that every increment, everything that you change technically with the gear-

Trevor Noah 12:35 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 12:35 ... whether it's a different chute, like we started with one chute, it's a beginner chute, then you change to another chute, which has a totally different feeling under canopy.

Trevor Noah 12:42 Uh-huh.

Orlando Bloom 12:42 Right? The canopy is the chute. All of these different things come into play, and you're like, and your, and your, and my brain is moving, trying to keep up with the things that I'm learning, and it's a pretty straightforward thing. When you jump out of a plane, one, to release your chute. If that doesn't work, two, you release the chute that didn't work, and three, you're like, I've forgotten what it is.

Trevor Noah 13:01 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 13:01 It's one, one to release the chute.

Trevor Noah 13:03 Jesus. [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 13:04 Two to release... Yeah, exactly.

Trevor Noah 13:06 It's pretty straightforward.

Orlando Bloom 13:06 One to release the chute.

Trevor Noah 13:07 It's pretty straightforward, Trevor.

Orlando Bloom 13:08 It's pretty straightforward. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 13:08 You see-

Orlando Bloom 13:09 One, two, three.

Trevor Noah 13:10 Let me tell you now in the, um, in the, uh, calm space that we, we're recording a podcast in, it's pretty simple, and I, I've forgotten it. And when I-

Orlando Bloom 13:16 There are three moves

Trevor Noah 13:16 ... is this why you need to do it-

Orlando Bloom 13:17 That's it, yeah

Trevor Noah 13:18 ... you need to be like-

Orlando Bloom 13:18 One, one out the back is the chute.

Trevor Noah 13:20 Okay.

Orlando Bloom 13:20 Two to release it if it, that didn't work for whatever reason.

Trevor Noah 13:23 And then three is on the other side.

Orlando Bloom 13:24 Yeah, three to re- to open the second chute. So you have two chutes when you jump.

Trevor Noah 13:28 If, if the first chute doesn't open, in, it's a, it's like a one in 1,000 chance-

Orlando Bloom 13:35 Yeah

Trevor Noah 13:35 ... that the chute doesn't open.

Orlando Bloom 13:36 That's right.

Trevor Noah 13:37 We're watching you jump.

Orlando Bloom 13:39 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 13:39 On the seventh jump, I think, if I remember correctly-

Orlando Bloom 13:42 Oh my God, I've give, I'm, I'm getting PTS just thinking about it

Trevor Noah 13:45 ... on the seventh jump, your chute doesn't open.

Orlando Bloom 13:48 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 13:48 Or it, like, opens and then it's like a weird-

Orlando Bloom 13:50 So it opened, actually, which is not as insane as if it hadn't opened, which would've been, I'd have been thinking in, in, in seconds.

Trevor Noah 13:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 13:57 So the protocol is one, two, doesn't work. One, two, I'm going. So I was like, "Right, baby. Here we go. One, two." And then I was like, one, my, the other chute fell away, and I was into free fall again. And then two, and then I felt the canopy came out, and I was like, I was just like, "Oh."

Trevor Noah 14:21 You, you don't even realize how terrifying this is until you see the look on the face of the guy who was driving by.

Orlando Bloom 14:29 Can you believe we got that?

Trevor Noah 14:30 You land by the side of the road.

Orlando Bloom 14:32 Mm.

Trevor Noah 14:32 And there's some good, like, just some good Samaritan-

Orlando Bloom 14:35 Yeah

Trevor Noah 14:35 ... who drives up. And he-

Orlando Bloom 14:36 Don't you love that?

Trevor Noah 14:37 You saw his face.

Orlando Bloom 14:38 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 14:38 He, he was like, "How are you alive?" 'Cause all he saw was somebody falling out the sky, parachute not working-

Orlando Bloom 14:43 And then a sh-

Trevor Noah 14:44 ... parachute snap.

Orlando Bloom 14:45 And then a, a parachute land in the field.

Trevor Noah 14:47 Yeah. In that moment, did your, did your life flash be- like, people always talk about what, what, what happened in that moment to you? Is it fear? Is it adrenaline? Is it, is it practice?

14:56 – 17:03

The paradox of extreme sports: risk-taking people as the most disciplined

Orlando Bloom 14:56 It's, it's-

Trevor Noah 14:56 Is it-

Orlando Bloom 14:56 You know what is really interesting actually, Trevor, is I think what I learned most is that these kind of wild people who do these wild things, they are experts in this, this little area.

Trevor Noah 15:11 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 15:12 Like, people have asked me if I've done any of these things subsequently, and the truth is I haven't. Not because I haven't wanted to, but because I think it's a lifestyle choice. These people are experts. They are, they were the family, they were the people that taught me-

Trevor Noah 15:24 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 15:24 ... how to, how to navigate, and it's protocol. It's like-

Trevor Noah 15:28 Well-

Orlando Bloom 15:28 ... everything you depend on is like, it's like, it's like there's a protocol. You follow that, so long as you're good with your, your, your, your maker.

Trevor Noah 15:37 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 15:37 You know? Otherwise-

Trevor Noah 15:38 But you, but you know what I found? That's a-

Orlando Bloom 15:39 Yeah

Trevor Noah 15:39 ... that's actually one of the things I found, like, really fascinating about the show is there's this paradox. You know when you think of extreme sports-

Orlando Bloom 15:47 Yeah

Trevor Noah 15:47 ... you think of all the people who are doing everything to risk their lives.

Orlando Bloom 15:51 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 15:52 And the one thing I noticed when watching your show was these people have more discipline-

Orlando Bloom 15:57 Yeah

Trevor Noah 15:57 ... than we have-

Orlando Bloom 15:58 That's right

Trevor Noah 15:58 ... when, like, driving on the highway.

Orlando Bloom 15:59 That's so true.

Trevor Noah 16:00 Like, you know the same way you'll go, "Oh, I'm gonna look at my phone."

Orlando Bloom 16:02 That's right.

Trevor Noah 16:02 "Let me check a few texts."

Orlando Bloom 16:03 That's right.

Trevor Noah 16:04 Or-

Orlando Bloom 16:04 100%

Trevor Noah 16:05 ... "Did I put my seatbelt?" Eh. No. The people who do extreme sports are the most disciplined people-

Orlando Bloom 16:12 Yeah

Trevor Noah 16:12 ... because they, they acknowledge the fact that at any moment it can end, and it ends.

Orlando Bloom 16:16 Yeah, it's out.

Trevor Noah 16:16 And then ironically in life, we're running around.

Orlando Bloom 16:19 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 16:20 Like, people cross the street.

Orlando Bloom 16:21 Headless chickens.

Trevor Noah 16:21 Yeah, we cross the-

Orlando Bloom 16:21 Yeah, run over. Yeah

Trevor Noah 16:22 ... we cross the street, we don't even pay attention, you know? Do, do, do you think that changed something in you at any point? Like, did it make you, even if it lasted for a few weeks, was there m- was there a part of you that was-

Orlando Bloom 16:31 Huge

Trevor Noah 16:31 ... a little more meticulous now?

Orlando Bloom 16:33 Huge. Huge. I mean, it was, it was huge for me in that respect because it, it, like, I like to think that when I, I'm, I overly prepare partly because of dyslexia or whatever else-

Trevor Noah 16:43 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 16:43 ... when I, when I'm preparing to go into a, into a movie or a character of some sort. But this was like, okay, this is life stuff. This is, these are, these are tools for life, like, and confidence. Like, it gave me a certain sense of like, oh man, I, I've, I did that. I can do this. This isn't... And I think-

17:03 – 24:01

Fame’s early peaks, burnout, and chasing feeling through edges

Trevor Noah 17:03 Wait, even at this stage in your life?

Orlando Bloom 17:06 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 17:07 'Cause I, I would assume that you feel accomplished all the time.

Orlando Bloom 17:10 No.

Trevor Noah 17:11 I mean, that could be-

Orlando Bloom 17:11 Not really.

Trevor Noah 17:12 Oh.

Orlando Bloom 17:12 I mean, I feel like, I think, you know, so young to have had so much great good fortune-

Trevor Noah 17:19 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 17:19 ... and to have come out the gate, but not really knowing, you know, my ass from my elbow and just, like... I mean, that's not true. I trained, I went to, I c- I always do this to myself. But somehow, yeah-

Trevor Noah 17:28 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 17:29 ... I think, you know, I think it's, I think it's only really getting interesting for me now in some ways in this, I don't know how, you're, you're, you're, you're a few years younger than me, right? You're, like, we're, you're like, I'm, I'm, like, 47.

Trevor Noah 17:40 I just, I, oh, I just turned 40.

Orlando Bloom 17:41 So there you go. Right. So it's like, yeah. So it's-

Trevor Noah 17:43 Yeah, but my, but my journey was, you know, as, as much as you, you went to school and you, and you studied, th- there's a strange curse I, I, I'll think about for people who experienced the pinnacle, and I mean the absolute pinnacle of success.

Orlando Bloom 17:59 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 18:00 Like, think about it. You, you come out of drama school. It, it was what? Your, your, your last week?

Orlando Bloom 18:05 Two days before I finished, yeah.

Trevor Noah 18:06 There you go.

Orlando Bloom 18:06 That I heard. But I mean, yeah, yeah.

Trevor Noah 18:08 And then you get Lord of the Rings, right?

Orlando Bloom 18:09 Yeah. I mean, I'd been auditioning for months, but yeah.

Trevor Noah 18:11 Yeah, but this is what, but they give you-

Orlando Bloom 18:12 Still crazy

Trevor Noah 18:12 ... so they, no, they give you the announcement, so they go-

Orlando Bloom 18:13 Crazy

Trevor Noah 18:14 ... "All right. Lord of the Rings. It's on."

Orlando Bloom 18:16 Mm.

Trevor Noah 18:16 Even at that point, people knew that this was gonna be one of the biggest films ever made because it was based on one of the biggest books ever. It was, it was-

Orlando Bloom 18:22 Right

Trevor Noah 18:22 ... massive, massive-

Orlando Bloom 18:23 Yeah

Trevor Noah 18:23 ... massive, massive.

Orlando Bloom 18:24 Yeah, yeah.

Trevor Noah 18:24 The cost, the, the everything, the budgets. But in a strange way, it's almost like dreaming of being a mountain climber, and then your first mountain is Everest.

Orlando Bloom 18:34 Yeah. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 18:35 And then-

Orlando Bloom 18:36 Yeah

Trevor Noah 18:36 ... you know, then you go on to do Pirates of the Caribbean-

Orlando Bloom 18:38 Right, right

Trevor Noah 18:38 ... and it's like, oh, your second mountain is Kilimanjaro.

Orlando Bloom 18:40 [laughs] Right.

Trevor Noah 18:41 I, I often wonder, like, how you keep yourself motivated-

Orlando Bloom 18:45 Yeah

Trevor Noah 18:46 ... or even stimulated-

Orlando Bloom 18:47 Yeah

Trevor Noah 18:48 ... when those are your first peaks.

Orlando Bloom 18:49 Yeah. That's-

Trevor Noah 18:49 Like, what, like, w- how- what's that been like in life?

Orlando Bloom 18:52 Kinda a good question. It's been a real, uh, it's been a, it's a l- it's been a lot about evolving. I think, I think that there was a period where I was just, it just never ended. I was either on a, on a set or I was doing publicity for a movie. If you think that there were three Rings, so I was, for three years I was releasing a huge movie with Lord of the Rings-

Trevor Noah 19:11 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 19:11 ... and there were, like, three Hobbits, two of which I did, and then there were, like, Troy and Kingdom of, all these giant m-

Trevor Noah 19:17 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 19:17 ... I just hit the juggernaut-

Trevor Noah 19:18 It was all every epic you can imagine

Orlando Bloom 19:19 ... of all these epic-style movies

Trevor Noah 19:20 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 19:20 ... right? I think I had just gotten kind of like, um, I'd lost a, a, I love what I do, and I think I, I, I just love what I do.

Trevor Noah 19:31 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 19:31 You know, I'd, I'd all of this amazing opportunity, and I think a little bit like that kind of Tolkien quote of it f- like, where, where Bilbo says he felt like a piece of toast that was spread a little thin.

Trevor Noah 19:42 Oof.

Orlando Bloom 19:42 You know? I just had, I just had, I just had lost, I'd lost a sense of w- y- who I was and where I was, 'cause it, the, it, it, with, with all of the, those huge movies came all of this attention that I-

Trevor Noah 19:54 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 19:54 ... that I didn't really know what to do with, and it was, you know, there was always people following me, and, you know, I couldn't go anywhere in the world.

Trevor Noah 20:00 Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 20:00 And I like to be in the world. I like to go to places, you know? It's like I like to be amongst people, and I like to ask pe- I'm curious about people.

Trevor Noah 20:07 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 20:08 So I was suddenly, like, you know, not able to do those things. It's why I picked up motorcycling again, actually, 'cause I could actually get to one place without being followed.

Trevor Noah 20:15 The helmet, right?

Orlando Bloom 20:16 You know, the helmet and-

Trevor Noah 20:17 Can I tell you? I, one of my favorite things when, when riding-

Orlando Bloom 20:19 Yeah, yeah

Trevor Noah 20:19 ... my friends used to ask me this. They'd go, like, "Why do you like riding so much?" You know, when I used to ride back in the day.

Orlando Bloom 20:23 Mm.

Trevor Noah 20:24 And I said, "One of my favorite things about riding a motorbike-

Orlando Bloom 20:26 Mm

Trevor Noah 20:26 ... is you don't exist."

Orlando Bloom 20:29 Mm.

Trevor Noah 20:29 It's just the helmet.

Orlando Bloom 20:30 Mm.

Trevor Noah 20:31 And I found it was one of the few instances where there literally was no race. There was no gender.

Orlando Bloom 20:37 No.

Trevor Noah 20:37 There was no where you from.

Orlando Bloom 20:38 Right.

Trevor Noah 20:38 There were, and all motorcyclists-

Orlando Bloom 20:40 That is so, yeah

Trevor Noah 20:40 ... we have, like, a, a camaraderie about us.

Orlando Bloom 20:42 Yeah. I agree.

Trevor Noah 20:42 We all know what's happening. We all know that we-

Orlando Bloom 20:44 We've got our life in our hands-

Trevor Noah 20:44 Yeah, I know, right

Orlando Bloom 20:44 ... every time we get on the bike.

Trevor Noah 20:45 And it's this, it's this interesting connection that you have, but it, but that anonymity is also a special thing.

Orlando Bloom 20:50 Yeah. And I, I, I had, you know, a child with my, my ex now, and, and I was very present for him, and then when we separated, I was sort of, I was living kind of like, you know, and not, and not really working, and, and then I sort of went on a bit of a journey at that time, and I was, I did a lot of stuff with Laird Hamilton. I was living in Malibu, and I did this crazy swim training with him, and then I was sort of, like, flying on motorcycles on tracks, learning a few kind of-

Trevor Noah 21:20 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 21:20 ... I was doing a lot of adrenaline things. I was really pushing my edges-

Trevor Noah 21:22 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 21:22 ... like, trying to f- I'd like, I think-

Trevor Noah 21:23 Do, do you think, do you think you were trying to feel? What do you, what do you think that-

Orlando Bloom 21:25 I think I was trying to feel-

Trevor Noah 21:26 What do you think that moment was?

Orlando Bloom 21:26 ... 'cause I was numb, and I was probably depressed and didn't really know that I was depressed, um, 'cause I had everything.

Trevor Noah 21:33 Mm.

Orlando Bloom 21:33 I'd a- I'd attained everything.

Trevor Noah 21:34 Yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 21:34 And everyone looked at me like I had everything, and I was like, you know. But then it felt like, you know, I remember Alec Baldwin telling me on this, on this movie set when we worked on, um, Elizabethtown, he said, uh, "They'll give you the keys to the executive bathroom. Take the keys."

Trevor Noah 21:49 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 21:49 I was like, "What does that mean?" He was like, "If you don't, there's a queue right behind you." I was like, "Okay, bro."

Trevor Noah 21:56 What does that mean?

Orlando Bloom 21:57 Um, it means you, you can go into, like, the studio, and you can go into the executive bathroom-

Trevor Noah 22:00 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 22:00 ... instead of going where everyone else goes to the bathroom, you know.

Trevor Noah 22:03 Right.

Orlando Bloom 22:03 If that's a big deal. Anyway, I don't know. But I think the analogy is if you don't take the key, if you don't keep taking that to, making the most of that moment, there will be a bunch of guys who are ready to go.

Trevor Noah 22:12 Ah.

Orlando Bloom 22:12 And they're gonna take that place-

Trevor Noah 22:13 Yeah, but, but can I tell, can I tell you-

Orlando Bloom 22:15 Yeah

Trevor Noah 22:15 ... I, I'm torn.

Orlando Bloom 22:15 That's like, I'm-

Trevor Noah 22:16 I'm, so I'm torn on this idea.

Orlando Bloom 22:17 I, I agree.

Trevor Noah 22:18 I'm torn on this idea. I, I feel like one of the worst things we've done in the world today, and, you know, I, part of it is a byproduct of capitalism. Part of it is, like-

Orlando Bloom 22:28 Yeah

Trevor Noah 22:28 ... the competitive nature of, like, you know, it, it, it exists more in America, but it's not like a, it's not a, a quote-unquote bad America thing. It just, it happens in many places. I think we threaten people who dare to take a break or try to find balance in their lives by telling them that if they do, there's other people who are gonna take what they're taking for granted when they're not taking it for granted. Do, do you know, do you know what I'm saying?

Orlando Bloom 22:52 Yeah. That happens, but in this instance, I think even, like, an energy-wise, like, I think I had personally shut down.

Trevor Noah 22:58 Oh.

Orlando Bloom 22:58 Energetically, I had closed shop. I was like, I was just like, "I'm toast right now," and I energetically didn't know which way to move.

Trevor Noah 23:08 That's a scary place to be.

Orlando Bloom 23:10 And it created in me, I think, a very deep sense of, you know, uh, like, what, what was my next m- all of these things that had been so mapped out.

Trevor Noah 23:21 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 23:21 And I didn't have the work-life balance right, so you know, that was part of the problem, and I always think I was work, you know, that old adage, are you working to live or living to work kind of thing.

Trevor Noah 23:30 Yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 23:30 And, you know.

Trevor Noah 23:30 Definitely.

Orlando Bloom 23:31 So at the time of doing this show as well, it's like, how do I just, how do I grow? How do I k- I'm, I'm all about evolving.

Trevor Noah 23:38 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 23:38 Trying to grow.

Trevor Noah 23:39 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 23:39 Trying to be, you know, I've h- like, as you said, I had a pretty r- unique experience.

Trevor Noah 23:43 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 23:43 So how do I stay kind of creatively involved? I mean, I basically now for the last few years, I've done movies that probably that's, you know, considering what, how many people saw the first half of my career, virtually nobody's seen the second half. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 23:56 Right, right.

Orlando Bloom 23:57 As, you know, the second chapter.

Trevor Noah 23:58 It's a comp- it's really-

Orlando Bloom 23:59 It's like, it's-

Trevor Noah 23:59 It's artisanal

Orlando Bloom 24:00 ... it's, it's like-

Trevor Noah 24:01 Yeah

24:01 – 26:42

Rebuilding the “skipped steps”: theater roots, craft, and finding meaning in less-seen work

Orlando Bloom 24:01 ... it's like, but you know what I think I was missing? Before I got cast in Lord of the Rings, my agent in London had called me and said, "The RSC's interested in you coming to work, you know, coming to be in rep and work with the RSC."

Trevor Noah 24:12 Uh-huh.

Orlando Bloom 24:12 And I was like, "Well, hey, baby, I've landed. This is it." Because in England, it was like you go to theater.

Trevor Noah 24:18 Yes.

Orlando Bloom 24:19 Maybe you get a bit of telly.

Trevor Noah 24:20 Yes.

Orlando Bloom 24:20 And then you go and do a movie.

Trevor Noah 24:21 Right.

Orlando Bloom 24:22 And I was like, "Well, let's go. What are we waiting for? Let's go. I'm ready. You know, pull me. Let's go." You know? But she, she never, she never let on a thing, by the way, about, you know, the, the, about what was happening with Rings. And I was, like, probably ADD still, just going out on all these auditions, which I get pulled out for. I think I auditioned on tape for Baz Luhrmann, like, five or six times for Moulin Rouge, and I, I kinda just did all of these, and I would go up for all sorts of auditions, and it was like, that's a skill as well. That's a muscle, right, to learn how to be in a room and audition.

Trevor Noah 24:50 Yes. Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 24:51 So I was, like, not thinking about anything, and then she gave me that call about Rings. So I was like, "Wait, what?" But I often think, I wonder what my life would've been like, because in a way, I missed this part of my career. You know, so I went back and did Romeo and Juliet on Broadway. I went back and did a play in the West End. I went back t- a couple of times. I feel like, in a way, this, the, the things that I've been doing in the last few years, you know, I did this crazy movie called, they renamed it Retaliation. It was originally Romans. I got these cr- it, it dropped during COVID. I got these crazy reviews. I got some of the best reviews of my career, actually. It was wild. [laughs] It was like, it's a-

Trevor Noah 25:21 It's beautiful

Orlando Bloom 25:22 ... it w-

Trevor Noah 25:23 D- Did that-

Orlando Bloom 25:23 Nobody, it w-

Trevor Noah 25:23 Did that fill something in-

Orlando Bloom 25:24 Literally, the thing, I think one of the reporters, just to say, said-

Trevor Noah 25:26 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 25:26 ... "Orlando Bloom must be really gutted right now because he's just done some of his best work and nobody's gonna see this movie." [laughs]

Trevor Noah 25:32 Oh, man. [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 25:32 It was like, I was like, I was like, "Great."

Trevor Noah 25:36 Do you think, do you think it filled something in you that you didn't know you needed filled? Because-

Orlando Bloom 25:42 Filling. I think I'm filling.

Trevor Noah 25:43 Yeah?

Orlando Bloom 25:43 I think it's a tank where it's like, look, I think, you know, we're all on this journey, right? We're all in our own fields, in our own respective fields.

Trevor Noah 25:50 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 25:50 We've all got goals that we maybe look to, and when you've, when you've had so many met at such a young age, then you're like, "I need to..." I kinda was going back to basics. I was like, "Okay, what, how am I gonna... I need to kinda do this." I, I, I skipped a step.

Trevor Noah 26:03 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 26:03 You know what I mean?

Trevor Noah 26:03 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 26:03 I skipped the, skipped the theater. I skipped the small independent movies.

Trevor Noah 26:07 Yes.

Orlando Bloom 26:07 But I, there was something I felt was missing, so I've sort of been building that part of my life and career-

Trevor Noah 26:13 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 26:13 ... because I think, I, you know, hopefully I'll have, you know, it'll, it'll, it'll only kinda keep getting better is my hope. You know what I mean? And I wanna, I wanna fill the gaps-

Trevor Noah 26:20 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 26:21 ... in the foundation that I felt were m- were maybe missing, and even if that's true or not. So that's kind of what I've been doing, and it's been, there's been a few roll of the dice, and some of them have worked, [laughs] some of them haven't. But, you know, I love every time I stand on a set. I always think, like, "Where would I rather be?" And unless it's with family and my kids or something, even, I'm just like, it's just I'm in my happy place there. [upbeat music]

26:42 – 32:52

Falling three floors and crushing T12: the accident that almost ended his career—and walking again

Trevor Noah 26:42 We're gonna continue this conversation right after this short break. One of the more interesting parts of the, of the show is learning that you essentially, did you break your back or did you, what did you do to it?

Orlando Bloom 27:04 Yeah. I, I fell three floors and I, I crushed T12.

Trevor Noah 27:07 I, I need to understand what happened because you-

Orlando Bloom 27:09 Yeah

Trevor Noah 27:09 ... obviously you allude to it and then we see the pictures of you in the hospital and we-

Orlando Bloom 27:13 Yeah

Trevor Noah 27:13 ... and essentially there's a moment where doctors said, "Hey, you're never gonna walk again."

Orlando Bloom 27:15 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 27:16 So explain to me what happened. Where were you? How do you fall three floors? 'Cause they just say that in passing, "He fell three floors."

Orlando Bloom 27:21 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 27:21 And I was like, how, where do you fall three floors? I've, I don't know-

Orlando Bloom 27:24 Yeah, yeah

Trevor Noah 27:24 ... how that's possible.

Orlando Bloom 27:25 So I was in my second year at drama school. I'd just finished a, like, s- we'd had this five-a-side soccer match with the other drama schools. We'd gone to a pub. I'd had one-

Trevor Noah 27:33 Did you, wait, did you win or lose? I need the details. Any time there's, there's a football-

Orlando Bloom 27:37 Yeah

Trevor Noah 27:37 ... match, I need to know the-

Orlando Bloom 27:38 I can't imagine that we won. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 27:39 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 27:40 We weren't, we weren't the winning side-

Trevor Noah 27:42 Okay, got it

Orlando Bloom 27:42 ... in memory.

Trevor Noah 27:42 Got it.

Orlando Bloom 27:43 Um, I probably blank that out. Um, I'd gone to a pub with everyone afterwards, had a Sunday roast and maybe one pint. Not like I was a big drinker, never been a big drinker. And then I went over to these, these friends' house in, in Chepstow Villas in, in, in, in Notting Hill, and I, uh, they'd just moved in, these, these two girlfriends of mine, and they'd, they'd, they'd had this fourth floor apartment. And the s- the stairwell that went up to the flat had a landing below their fourth floor apartment, and the door, they said, "Oh, we, we can't get that door open, but there's a roof terrace for us to use and we're gonna put plants and stuff." And I was like, "Oh, it just needs to be kicked in from the outside." So anyway, I was like, "You'll have to get that." Anyway, we walked into the apartment. I was like, "Wow, this is such a great apartment." I looked out the window. This is the ADD impulsiveness, right?

Trevor Noah 28:24 Yes.

Orlando Bloom 28:24 This is a-

Trevor Noah 28:25 Okay

Orlando Bloom 28:25 ... this is 100% what that is.

Trevor Noah 28:26 I'm seeing it now.

Orlando Bloom 28:26 I looked out the window. I was like, "Oh, wow." I looked to the south. I said, "Oh, wow, there's the roof terrace." And I kid you the l- the roof terrace is probably from this chair to where, you know, a meter and a half to the left.

Trevor Noah 28:36 Uh-huh.

Orlando Bloom 28:36 And I'm like, "Oh, I could just jump. I could jump that. That's no problem." But then instead I saw this piece of metal running down the wall, which was not a drain pipe that you could hold onto. It was a piece of metal, like, coming out the wall like, like this. And I was like, "Oh, well, if I just pinch it like this, I'll grab hold of it like this-

Trevor Noah 28:52 You've watched movies, clearly

Orlando Bloom 28:53 ... and I'll shimmy across."

Trevor Noah 28:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 28:54 Right? Somehow I was like, "I'll pull it and just pull across." And I got out of the window, held onto this thing, and of course there's nothing for my feet, and I just fell. And I landed on a, from a fourth floor window, on a first floor balcony that had, you know, in England they have those-

Trevor Noah 29:07 Jesus

Orlando Bloom 29:08 ... so there's, the railings are going around with those, like, you know, spear heads.

Trevor Noah 29:11 Oh, with, like, the spikes.

Orlando Bloom 29:12 The spear heads.

Trevor Noah 29:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 29:13 And the, and the, uh, an old washing machine, and I landed, like, plumb between the middle of it, and I was, like, I think out for a couple of minutes. My best friend, who's actually in the show-

Trevor Noah 29:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah

Orlando Bloom 29:21 ... the, the, he was like, "Gibbo. Gibbo!" I was like, and I was out, and then I kind of remember coming around and I was like, "Uh..." I think my first thought was, "Who's gonna play Orsino in Twelfth Night?" 'Cause I was having a really good time playing Orsino.

Trevor Noah 29:33 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 29:33 I was like, "I'm not gonna be doing that." And I was like, "I can wiggle my toes," but nothing else. And I was obviously in shock, and y- your body, I think, when you, you know, the pain came later.

Trevor Noah 29:45 Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 29:46 But, but, um, but essentially, London is amazing by the... This is, this is why I'll pay taxes for the rest of my life, wherever I am. But I'm like, in London it's specifically, 'cause, like, there was nobody in that first floor flat-

Trevor Noah 29:56 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 29:56 ... uh, I was on the balcony. They got, so they ended up getting a fireman, winching him in. He kicked open the doors to the, somebody's house, br- d- destroying their doors no doubt. They opened and got the special services in. So they called this the Royal Stamford Orthopedic Hospital, and they said they'd just got a hospital flu, so they were taking no more inpatients. There was, like, no more. But they were like, "We have a 20-year-old kid, may never walk again unless you take him."

Trevor Noah 30:20 Wow.

Orlando Bloom 30:20 And they were like, so they took me at walking pace in an ambulance. My parents were in the car b- a car behind following, like, with police escorts. Took five hours to get from Paddington to North London to this other hospital so that I would- Be able to be seen and treated at this, you know, much better hospital, um, where, like, that could handle my, my case. And so when I got in, it was like, yeah, for four days they were like, "Yeah, yeah, that's..." You know.

Trevor Noah 30:48 Were, were you, were you present when they were saying... Were they saying this to you?

Orlando Bloom 30:51 Yeah. Yeah, I was, I was, I was very present. I was in a lot of pain. I basically had almost severed my ni- spinal cord, but I hadn't quite. So I, like, I remember this sensation. They had a cage over my legs, 'cause if I touched my legs, it was like razor blades coming up under the skin or like electricity. It was crazy. The nerves had gone. Um, there was this wonderful nurse actually who, um, she used to come in at night and move my legs, move my body, 'cause she was like... I don't even know where she came from. This is, this is the, the, the, the NHS care staff, you know? Amazing. Amazing. But so I'm in this hospital, I'm looking at the bed o- opposite me, and there's a, there's a guy with a cage, one of these, they call it a halo. It's a cage. Young 18-year-old guy, jumped into a lake. He used to be in the army. His parents were just weeping by his bed 'cause he was never gonna walk again. And there was a guy to my left who'd fallen off a ladder and broken his back, and he was wearing this plastic cast. And he turned to us and he looked, and we were chatting, and I was just getting used to looking at, like, the ceilings and thinking, "Oh, I could get used to looking at ceilings, I suppose. I mean, you know, they're kind of interesting. It's a different perspective," right? He said, he knocked on his chest and he goes, "If you get one of these, mate, you're gonna be good." And I was like, "What?" He goes, "This, this, this..." So the surgeon came. At first they were like, "You're not walking again." They said, "We're gonna do an MRI, 'cause you're, you're physically able to move you to-

Trevor Noah 32:08 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 32:08 ... to the MRI."

Trevor Noah 32:08 Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 32:09 And they were like, "It's hanging on by a thread, so we're gonna try opening your spine. We will pin and plate above this one crushed vertebrae and the two below that are fractured. But we will put a structure around it, a titanium structure, so that you can m- move. And, and then we'll see what happens." And basically, I got this, finally got this plastic cast and, and I, you know. I mean, I was 20, so admittedly youth was on my side and-

Trevor Noah 32:37 Yeah, but still. Youth and then, you know-

Orlando Bloom 32:40 Yeah

Trevor Noah 32:40 ... as you said, your, your maker/your-

Orlando Bloom 32:43 Yeah

Trevor Noah 32:43 ... /your ancestors-

Orlando Bloom 32:44 Yeah

Trevor Noah 32:44 ... /whatever you wanna, whatever you wanna call it.

Orlando Bloom 32:46 Angels, whatever you wanna call it. They came in hard.

Trevor Noah 32:47 That, that clearly changes how you see the world, and it changes how you see life.

Orlando Bloom 32:51 Yeah.

32:52 – 41:52

Climbing as the real fear: knots, trust, adaptive athletes, and Buddhist chanting under stress

Trevor Noah 32:52 When you are now climbing, it wa- it was interesting, of, of all the, of all the sports you were participating in, the first time you looked uncomfortable to me was when you had to climb. So jumping out of an airplane, you were like, "Ah, tell me the rules. How does this go?"

Orlando Bloom 33:08 Right.

Trevor Noah 33:08 There's even a point where you come in really hot o- o- on one of your parachute landings. I thought you were gonna break your legs.

Orlando Bloom 33:13 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 33:13 And you were just like, "Ha ha. Did you guys see that? Did I scare you? Ha ha ha." And you just carry on.

Orlando Bloom 33:18 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 33:18 You really just carry on. The first time where it just felt like a little bit of your swag disappeared-

Orlando Bloom 33:22 Yeah

Trevor Noah 33:22 ... was when you had to climb.

Orlando Bloom 33:23 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 33:24 Yeah. There, there's two things I wanted to know about that, is, like, one, what did you learn about getting over your fears or your traumas in that experience and in that moment, and did you? And then the second one is, how did you, how did you put that much trust in people who you'd never really met-

Orlando Bloom 33:42 Yeah

Trevor Noah 33:42 ... never spent any time with-

Orlando Bloom 33:44 Right

Trevor Noah 33:45 ... but fundamentally had to believe-

Orlando Bloom 33:47 Yeah

Trevor Noah 33:48 ... had your best interest at heart?

Orlando Bloom 33:49 Yeah. Overcoming the fear was, um, was a sort of... I've had this sort of unique trust in life since I'm very young, and there's not really any rhyme or reason for it. But I just mentally went to that place, which I think you do when you're in, when it's game time. When you're like, "This is it. I'm on." The most challenging thing, the fearful thing about that, by the way, was, was for me, was with parts of my dyslexia and other things, was, like, these knots.

Trevor Noah 34:21 Learning, learning to tie the knots.

Orlando Bloom 34:23 And all these, these knots.

Trevor Noah 34:23 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 34:23 And these, and when you're gonna move these things.

Trevor Noah 34:25 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 34:26 It, it's just like-

Trevor Noah 34:26 The loop goes that way, and if you go the other way-

Orlando Bloom 34:28 Yeah

Trevor Noah 34:28 ... then it's wrong and, and it's, yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 34:29 And then it's like, and if you go the wrong way... So that was, like, I just had to commit to the process and be as present to it as possible, and trust that this was something that was meant for me, and that I'm on this journey and I'm committing to it, so I'm gonna go like I do, 110%, you know, and I'm gonna go into it. And the really hard part was the second part to your question, which was trusting. And meeting Mo for the first time, and who is an adaptive climber, who has climbed since she's a child with one hand, born with one hand. So her spirit and her confidence and the twinkle in her eyes was really kind of leading me forward, and I was like, "Look, if she can do this and she's telling me I can do this, I can do this." But I was, I, I had terrible potty mouth on that shot. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 35:20 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 35:20 They beeped me about a million times, because I was so, I was, there were points where p- p- p- muscles in my back and in my body that I didn't even, hadn't, you know, existed-

Trevor Noah 35:31 Yeah. Climb- everyone says when you climb-

Orlando Bloom 35:33 Were like-

Trevor Noah 35:33 ... you learn parts of your body you never knew you had.

Orlando Bloom 35:35 And, you know, I knew if I fell, I was gonna fall on a rope. So in some ways it didn't have the same ab- abject terror, right-

Trevor Noah 35:42 Okay

Orlando Bloom 35:42 ... of standing on the edge of something. But the climbing was just, it was so challenging to overcome. At one point, I'm climbing this in this video bit, and I completely, I've had, I chant Nam Myoho Renge Kyo since I'm a kid, and this woman goes, "So what do you do?" I go, "I breathe." And she goes, "Well..." 'Cause my head was so spinning, it was like, "I chant Nam Myoho Renge Kyo."

Trevor Noah 36:04 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 36:04 And then I'm like, "Nam Myoho Renge Kyo." And then suddenly I was like, "Okay, I'm doing it. I can do it." You know what I mean? It's like my magic kind of-

Trevor Noah 36:10 Yeah, yeah

Orlando Bloom 36:11 ... tape, if you like. And so I'm like, just like chanting my way through, which is like, basically just saying, "I'm grateful, I'm grateful, I'm grateful."

Trevor Noah 36:17 Yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 36:18 I've got this, I've got this. You know.

Trevor Noah 36:18 I don't know if my read was correct, but when I was watching the show, I felt, I felt like I learned a lot more about you as a person. You reveal parts of yourself that are forcefully drawn out by the, the severity of the situation.

Orlando Bloom 36:32 Right.

Trevor Noah 36:33 You know? So- So when, when, when you, when you're wing suiting and you, you're skydiving and you're getting, you know, accredited in, in the space of a week, I see, I see a side of you that is, um, like, you, you, you really push yourself. I couldn't help but wonder where you get that from. You, you have, like, such a... It's like, are you hard on yourself?

Orlando Bloom 36:50 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 36:50 Are you-

Orlando Bloom 36:52 Yeah, probably. You know, I, I, I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I don't wanna ever look back and think I didn't suck the marrow, right? Because I feel like, I feel like there's, there's, there's... Like, I would always take the, the r- the harder path, right?

Trevor Noah 37:06 Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 37:06 Because-

Trevor Noah 37:07 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 37:08 ... I would get something from that, you know? And I think that that's what the show represented for me, taking the hardest path possible to confront this fear-

Trevor Noah 37:15 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 37:16 ... at a time where I'd felt so much fear, and it's just that. Like, for me, I'm, I'm super privileged. You know, I'm super blessed. I've had this insane life. What is it gonna take for me to be out of that to... It, it, it took this insanity.

Trevor Noah 37:31 Huh.

Orlando Bloom 37:31 Hopefully the takeaway is let's step outside of our, whatever it is is our comfort zone-

Trevor Noah 37:37 Mm

Orlando Bloom 37:38 ... so that we can... And, and, and trust and engage and be curious and learn and sort of try to... That was, you know, that's what I'm, that's me, right? Trying to do that stuff. That's just, you know. And, and I think the hardness is, like, it's, it's probably just an, an ancestral thing and, like, you know. I think partly having so many remarkable experiences so early.

Trevor Noah 38:04 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 38:05 Like, I, my whole life played out on giant movies that everyone watches-

Trevor Noah 38:09 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 38:09 ... had watched, and I was just still learning, you know? Like, I look at some of my peers and, you know, like, some of my friends who are in the business who started in the Disney Club, you know what I mean?

Trevor Noah 38:18 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 38:18 So, like, acting was, like, second nature to them. They're, like, all directors now or, like, wanting... You know, they're, like, literally they started at 12, and they were in the Dis- so they, they have timing. They have comedy. They have dance. They have everything that they... I was like, I was doing school plays, you know, playing The Pirates of Penzance and the police officer. I didn't even play the pirate. I played the fu-

Trevor Noah 38:35 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 38:35 You know, I played the character, you know?

Trevor Noah 38:37 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 38:37 And I was like, you know, I went to the National Youth Theatre, and I didn't get the lead roles. I was, like, the spear carrier. And by the way, Chiwet- Chiwetel, I'm not, shouldn't, Chiwetel, who was, like, he played Othello, right? And he was, like, I was, like, on stage with him when he was doing it, and he was, like, chewing-

Trevor Noah 38:49 And he's phenomenal

Orlando Bloom 38:49 ... the scenery. Oh, my goodness.

Trevor Noah 38:50 Yes.

Orlando Bloom 38:51 He's just, like, chewing the scenery. We all looked up to him, and he was just, like, crushing it as Othello. He... I've, I've never seen an animal on stage like it as a kid, right? He's just dominating. And I'm like, so I'm, like, with my spear, and-

Trevor Noah 39:03 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 39:03 ... and the guy was like, "Just pipe down with the spear, Orlando."

Trevor Noah 39:05 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 39:05 You're not, like... Do you know what I mean? I'm like, you know, it was like that. So I'm learning everything but, like, in these tiny bits of moments. So then I'm suddenly 18, no, 20, and I'm going off, and I'm, I mean, it was the most amazing education. And thankfully Peter Jackson and, and Fran, his partner, and that whole team in New Zealand were just, like-

Trevor Noah 39:22 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 39:22 ... and Ian McKellen, Ian Holm, you know, Christopher Lee. Viggo Mortensen was my, was my mentor, basically.

Trevor Noah 39:29 Yeah. Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 39:29 He didn't even know it. I used to sit next to him and just, like, absorb his... And that guy, there's a guy who's committed. There's a guy who knows. Like, there's a guy who's an artist.

Trevor Noah 39:37 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 39:38 I think I felt s- like, maybe it was, like, people would like to say, and people probably think or said it was a layup. They don't know the work that went into it before.

Trevor Noah 39:45 Yeah, okay.

Orlando Bloom 39:46 So in a way-

Trevor Noah 39:46 Okay, the, yeah

Orlando Bloom 39:47 ... so in a way it's like they don't know the amount of auditions I went through-

Trevor Noah 39:50 This makes a lot of sense

Orlando Bloom 39:51 ... or the fact that I left home at e-

Trevor Noah 39:52 Yes

Orlando Bloom 39:52 ... you know, I left home at 16 to move to London on my own-

Trevor Noah 39:54 Yes

Orlando Bloom 39:55 ... to hustle like a crazy person-

Trevor Noah 39:56 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 39:56 ... to get into drama school, fail the first time, second time get in.

Trevor Noah 39:59 Right.

Orlando Bloom 39:59 Then to get myself through drama school, to work on the weekends folding clothes, to sell, you know, to get... I, you know what I mean? It's like-

Trevor Noah 40:06 There's a, there's a beautiful, um, phrase I, uh, a, a friend said it to me once. She said, um, Anele, she was actually on the podcast a fe- a few episodes ago, um, for my birthday, but she was saying, she, I love this line. She said, um, she said, "Overnight success does happen overnight, but the preparation leading up to that point takes a lifetime."

Orlando Bloom 40:23 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 40:24 And I think that's sort of what you're speaking to is-

Orlando Bloom 40:26 I, I, I was, I w-

Trevor Noah 40:27 Because it's zero to everything-

Orlando Bloom 40:29 I was a, I was-

Trevor Noah 40:30 But not for you

Orlando Bloom 40:30 ... probably eight or six, and I used to sit in the school gym and imagine that I was Superman flying in to get my girlfriend or something.

Trevor Noah 40:38 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 40:38 It was like I had, like, fantasies of playing, like, the fool guy, right?

Trevor Noah 40:43 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 40:44 Like Lee Majors. I used to watch that or, you know, like, it was things like Dallas and LA Law. I was very, like, you know, watching TV of American, the American style.

Trevor Noah 40:52 Yeah, yeah, I see that.

Orlando Bloom 40:52 You know what I mean? Like, it was all of that that led to the... And I think breaking my back, you know, I think if anything, I remember going back to drama school, and I sat in this circle of friends, and it was all, like, everybody had to speak about what they were gonna do, and we all had to speak about what the other, what we, how we saw the other person, right? So everybody said, like, "What are the..." When we come out of drama school, you know, we talked about, and everybody went round, and we were like, "Oh, this is what Maya does. She's this amazing Italian actress-

Trevor Noah 41:15 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 41:16 ... who I, who I love and adore still." And, and, and you're sort of imbuing all of these people with, like, your, their dreams.

Trevor Noah 41:21 This is beautiful. I like this.

Orlando Bloom 41:22 It was really special, and people said wonderful thing, even though I'd broken my back, and they were like, and, and people who I didn't even think liked me, honestly, and they were saying these wonderful things about, about what they thought I could, I was capable of, and it was as if I didn't know that. It's a very weird thing. You, you, you mentioned this earlier. I think there's, there is a disconnect, which is probably why I keep going back to, like-

Trevor Noah 41:41 Yeah, no, this makes sense

Orlando Bloom 41:42 ... to building it out, you know what I mean?

Trevor Noah 41:43 This makes a lot of sense.

Orlando Bloom 41:43 And I'm good with that. It's like I work. I just work, you know? It's like just keep showing up. I think Tom Hanks said that, right? It's like, and something will give.

Trevor Noah 41:49 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 41:49 And it's like in a weird way I like that though.

41:52 – 48:34

Katy Perry, purpose, and the push to evolve—plus Trevor’s take on risk and “no questions at my funeral”

Trevor Noah 41:52 So the other thing I learned was you, one of the parts of the show that's, I mean, it, in, in time it probably takes no time in the show, but it has I think some of the most gravitas in the show. It's, it's the moments where you're talking to Katy.

Orlando Bloom 42:10 Yeah, yeah.

Trevor Noah 42:10 And it, it's, it's beautiful because it showed me something about the two of you that is very difficult for people to understand until you see it.

Orlando Bloom 42:21 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 42:22 And it's that you seem to be pursuing a life of purpose, a, a life of, of peace, and also strangely enough, like a li- a life of normalcy.

Orlando Bloom 42:34 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 42:34 Which is strange because, like, Katy Perry, one of the biggest pop stars that's ever lived, Orlando Bloom, one of the biggest actors that's ever been, you know, like the movies. No, really.

Orlando Bloom 42:41 No.

Trevor Noah 42:41 The blockbusters. You name it, trilogy after trilogy.

Orlando Bloom 42:43 Right, right.

Trevor Noah 42:44 But it's, there's this strange thing where it seems like the two of you have found a connection that exists in peace and normalcy. And, like, and I could be wrong. You could just be like, "Nope-

Orlando Bloom 42:53 No, no, you're right

Trevor Noah 42:53 ... wrong read."

Orlando Bloom 42:54 I, I think one of the things that I fell in love with with Katy was, like, I didn't really ... Um, she hates when I say this, so I have to word it carefully, but, um, her music was everywhere, right? When I came up, it was just on every radio station. But I wasn't conscious of, like, I wasn't what I was listening to, but, like, I fell in love with this, with Catherine, this girl from Santa Barbara, you know? And by the way, parents pastors living on food stamps.

Trevor Noah 43:21 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 43:21 We're not talking glamorous-

Trevor Noah 43:23 Right

Orlando Bloom 43:23 ... Montecito, like, or Santa Barbara.

Trevor Noah 43:26 Yeah, it's, it's the side of Santa Barbara no one knows.

Orlando Bloom 43:28 It's the side-

Trevor Noah 43:28 Yeah, yeah

Orlando Bloom 43:28 ... that no one knows. And we both understand, I think, we both meet each other with understanding where we came from, what, what we worked to do, what we had to do to get to where we got to.

Trevor Noah 43:38 Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 43:39 And she definitely demands that I evolve, [laughs] right? And I feel I do the same for her, and that makes for fireworks, pardon the pun, but it also makes for a lot of fun and a lot of growth. And, you know, I wouldn't change it for anything, even when sometimes it feels like, how do we do this?

Trevor Noah 44:04 Mm-hmm.

Orlando Bloom 44:05 Because we've got these two giant careers and lives, and, and hers is even, you know, there's even, it's like a universe sometimes.

Trevor Noah 44:13 Yeah, yeah.

Orlando Bloom 44:13 But I think I just keep coming back to her and trying to, like, hold her hand and walk her back to the sandpit and be like, "Yeah, but this is, we're just gonna build a sandcastle," you know? And she loves to do that, too. She's like, she's like, "Oh, yeah, the sandcastle," or the ride of the bike. You know, the, the little, the little moments that, that, that ... And she's a master at helping to, you know, do, create the, help, help to keep building those moments, you know? So I try to, I try to hold a space big enough. I try to be big enough. I think even, you could even say in the show it was like me proving to myself-

Trevor Noah 44:47 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 44:47 ... that I was man enough, big enough, whatever, capable enough. 'Cause part of it was I learned to be capable in that show.

Trevor Noah 44:54 Hmm.

Orlando Bloom 44:55 In life, in a way that, like, and it's like, see? I can do it.

Trevor Noah 44:59 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 44:59 Mom, I can do it.

Trevor Noah 45:00 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 45:01 See this, babe? I can do it. You know, if you thought I couldn't, I drive too fast, look at this. You know what I mean?

Trevor Noah 45:06 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 45:06 Um, but in a way, you know, that's me. That's my journey.

Trevor Noah 45:10 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 45:10 That's my journey of evolution, to, like, constantly remind myself that, you know, of the things that, you know, 'cause I, sometimes I forget. I mean, maybe-

Trevor Noah 45:17 But it, but it seems like she never forgets. That, that's what I mean is so powerful.

Orlando Bloom 45:21 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 45:21 And I hope, I hope people watch the show even if it's just for that moment and that reason.

Orlando Bloom 45:24 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 45:25 Every time you do something amazing in the show, and it's amazing not just because you've done it, but because of the timeframe that you've done it in, you seem to be surprised, and you seem grateful, and you seem happy. She seems like it was a confirmation of something she always believed about you. Do you know what I mean?

Orlando Bloom 45:41 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 45:42 There's always a moment where ... And she either says it or she intimates. She almost has a vibe of like, "All right. Now, come home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You jumped."

Orlando Bloom 45:48 Right.

Trevor Noah 45:48 "You did it. I knew you were gonna do it."

Orlando Bloom 45:49 Right.

Trevor Noah 45:49 "Now come ... Don't..."

Orlando Bloom 45:50 Right.

Trevor Noah 45:50 You know what I mean?

Orlando Bloom 45:50 Yeah, yeah.

Trevor Noah 45:50 And, and it, it, it really is, it really is stunning. [upbeat music] Don't go anywhere 'cause we got more What Now? after this. [upbeat music] I, I could talk to you forever about this.

Orlando Bloom 46:07 I love it.

Trevor Noah 46:07 But, you know, unfortunately, time is time.

Orlando Bloom 46:09 Yeah, that's right.

Trevor Noah 46:10 Some people say it doesn't exist.

Orlando Bloom 46:10 Are you gonna come jump with me then, Trevor?

Trevor Noah 46:12 Jump where?

Orlando Bloom 46:13 We'll jump out of a plane together.

Trevor Noah 46:15 Let's do that.

Orlando Bloom 46:16 I'll get you with Luke. You'll love it. Confront some of those fears. Have you done it before? Maybe you've done it before, am I right?

Trevor Noah 46:21 I, I haven't done it before.

Orlando Bloom 46:22 Let's do it. Let's go jump out of a plane.

Trevor Noah 46:24 So here's the thing.

Orlando Bloom 46:25 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 46:25 Here's the thing, um, Orlando. I, I come from an African family, and there's one thing I've promised myself and my family, that they won't, all they'll need to do if they ever, God forbid, have to come to my funeral, all they'll have to do is cry.

Orlando Bloom 46:40 [laughs] Okay.

Trevor Noah 46:40 They won't have to ask questions.

Orlando Bloom 46:42 Hmm.

Trevor Noah 46:43 They won't have to justify why I'm there or how I'm there.

Orlando Bloom 46:46 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 46:46 They will just, they'll just get to cry and go, "Trevor's..." Now, God willing, none of them will ever be coming to my funeral because they're older than me.

Orlando Bloom 46:53 What would be your fear, then?

Trevor Noah 46:55 Uh-

Orlando Bloom 46:55 What would be, what would be the one that you would do?

Trevor Noah 46:58 No, no, all of them are my ... Are they ... You ... But, but it's not, like, my ... What I mean by it's not my fear is I don't, I don't have a fear of jumping out of a plane.

Orlando Bloom 47:06 Right.

Trevor Noah 47:07 I just think in-

Orlando Bloom 47:07 You also don't have a desire, either. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 47:09 Yeah, exactly.

Orlando Bloom 47:09 Okay.

Trevor Noah 47:09 So I, I think of it this way. I think in life-

Orlando Bloom 47:11 You don't have to prove anything to anyone

Trevor Noah 47:12 ... we have, we have a limited amount of luck, and we have a limited amount of-

Orlando Bloom 47:16 I don't believe that

Trevor Noah 47:16 ... this, this magical life force thing.

Orlando Bloom 47:18 I think I've got-

Trevor Noah 47:19 And so as, and so as-

Orlando Bloom 47:20 That's, that's my brain

Trevor Noah 47:20 ... Oh, really?

Orlando Bloom 47:21 Yeah, it's endless.

Trevor Noah 47:21 This is what hap- If you break your back and then you walk, I mean, after that you go like, "I can probably do it again."

Orlando Bloom 47:27 Please do not.

Trevor Noah 47:27 You know? No, and then it's great.

Orlando Bloom 47:28 I don't believe it.

Trevor Noah 47:28 It's great for you. Um, but yeah, I don't know. I, I ... Look, I'm not saying I won't ever do it.

Orlando Bloom 47:32 Right.

Trevor Noah 47:33 You know?

Orlando Bloom 47:33 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 47:33 I, I bungee jumped and-

Orlando Bloom 47:35 Oh, yeah? Well, there you go. Now, that's, I've done, that's, that's an intense feeling. You, y- so it's-

Trevor Noah 47:39 It's safer than skydiving, but it is more terrifying.

Orlando Bloom 47:42 Yes, it is.

Trevor Noah 47:43 It is, it's terrifying.

Orlando Bloom 47:44 It is terrifying.

Trevor Noah 47:45 And I'd, I'd never want to do it again. I don't need to do it again.

Orlando Bloom 47:47 No.

Trevor Noah 47:47 The people that love it, I hated it.

Orlando Bloom 47:49 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 47:49 I hated all-

Orlando Bloom 47:49 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 47:49 I hated jumping.

Orlando Bloom 47:50 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 47:50 I hated waiting to jump.

Orlando Bloom 47:51 Where'd you jump?

Trevor Noah 47:51 I hated falling. In South Africa.

Orlando Bloom 47:53 Yeah, yeah. That's crazy.

Trevor Noah 47:53 At the time it was the highest jump.

Orlando Bloom 47:54 Yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah.

Trevor Noah 47:55 It's ter- it's just terrifying.

Orlando Bloom 47:57 Terrifying, yeah.

Trevor Noah 47:57 And then there's a moment where you're just hanging upside down. You're just, this is all that's happening.

Orlando Bloom 48:01 Dangling. Blood rushing to your head.

Trevor Noah 48:01 You're dangling. The blood's rushing to your head.

Orlando Bloom 48:02 And you're thinking, "Why did I do this?"

Trevor Noah 48:04 And then it feels like your feet are slipping out-

Orlando Bloom 48:05 It's so fun

Trevor Noah 48:05 ... and then you f- and then you get to the top and they're like, "Huh? Huh?"

Orlando Bloom 48:08 "How was that?"

Trevor Noah 48:09 And I'm, I'm like, "No."

Orlando Bloom 48:10 You're like, "I'm good. Thanks."

Trevor Noah 48:10 It felt like I jumped off a bridge.

Orlando Bloom 48:11 [laughs]

Trevor Noah 48:12 Do you know what I mean?

Orlando Bloom 48:13 Yeah, I do.

Trevor Noah 48:13 There was nothing that changed in me off ... Like, I ... 'Cause let me put it this way. I, I believe as Trevor I can jump off a bridge if I need to.

Orlando Bloom 48:21 Right. Yeah.

Trevor Noah 48:21 I believe this.

Orlando Bloom 48:22 Hmm.

Trevor Noah 48:23 So nothing changed after that. I didn't walk away from it going, "You see? I can jump off a br- I knew I could. If I need to, I will jump off of a bridge."

Orlando Bloom 48:31 Right.

Trevor Noah 48:31 But I'm, I'm not, I hope I don't need to.

Orlando Bloom 48:33 Right.

48:34 – 52:50

‘What now?’: Orlando’s trifecta—career, UNICEF, family—and simplifying for the next life

Trevor Noah 48:34 Before I let you go, I'll ask you the question I ask everyone who comes on, on the podcast. And thank you again for joining me. You know, I, I-

Orlando Bloom 48:40 Thanks for having me, man

Trevor Noah 48:40 ... appreciate the time, the, the conversation.

Orlando Bloom 48:41 I love it.

Trevor Noah 48:42 You, you being candid.

Orlando Bloom 48:43 Love what you're doing here.

Trevor Noah 48:44 What now? Like, what, what does, what does Orlando seek to do now? Because again, you, you have sort of- Done the same thing that you did with Lord of the Rings and Pir- this is another trilogy, but this is a personal trilogy

Orlando Bloom 48:57 Right, right, right

Trevor Noah 48:57 Where do you wanna see yourself going from here?

Orlando Bloom 48:59 I have these, like, three visions. If I can make good on this promise that I made to myself that, that, for my career, right?

Trevor Noah 49:05 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 49:05 Like, if I can make good on this promise, then I'll be able to use what I've been doing there f- to, to support my work, like which, UNICEF, which I've done for like 20 years-

Trevor Noah 49:14 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 49:14 ... which I find, like, to be the most rewarding thing in my life, outside of my family.

Trevor Noah 49:20 Right

Orlando Bloom 49:20 So if I keep moving those three around, so it's just, it's a qui-

Trevor Noah 49:23 Family

Orlando Bloom 49:24 Family-

Trevor Noah 49:24 The, the-

Orlando Bloom 49:25 Not in any specific order, but family

Trevor Noah 49:26 Normally, yeah, yeah, family

Orlando Bloom 49:26 It's just like if I, if I, my career's going-

Trevor Noah 49:28 Right

Orlando Bloom 49:28 ... if I'm con- if I keep just showing up for my career-

Trevor Noah 49:31 Okay

Orlando Bloom 49:31 ... and it keeps working, then it gives me a, a greater platform to keep working on UNICEF, which is really something that I think they do amazing work.

Trevor Noah 49:37 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 49:37 And then, you know, and then my c- family will be taken care of, and that's the most important thing to me

Trevor Noah 49:41 Interesting, and so it's a trifecta that keeps going, that keeps w-

Orlando Bloom 49:42 It's a trifecta that just keeps working

Trevor Noah 49:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you. Keep going

Orlando Bloom 49:44 It's like, "Okay, keep doing this, do this"

Trevor Noah 49:45 I'm with you

Orlando Bloom 49:46 And, you know, and then, then you're good. Do you know what I mean?

Trevor Noah 49:48 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 49:48 And, and you know, I think simplify, honestly.

Trevor Noah 49:52 Oh

Orlando Bloom 49:52 Like I'm, you know, I think, I'm, I'm seven years more older than you, and I think it's like I've got, oh, fuck, I sound, I just need to ... Like, who wants to sift through this stuff when I'm gone? [laughs] You know what I mean?

Trevor Noah 50:03 [laughs]

Orlando Bloom 50:04 Like, get rid of it. You know what I mean? Like I'm like, "But it's so valuable" Is it? Does anyone really know? Um, but you know, just thing. It, it, the, the, the over, my attachment to things-

Trevor Noah 50:14 Yes. Right, right

Orlando Bloom 50:14 ... and just like, just simplify so that you can just ... The one thing my mom did say to me is, "He who travels light travels far" I don't know where I missed that lesson-

Trevor Noah 50:23 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 50:23 ... 'cause I keep saying it, and I did not, I do not travel light. But I like to think I travel far, and, and mostly in my head. So I'm just, you know, slowly preparing for death. [laughs]

Trevor Noah 50:35 Damn. I mean, that is, that is both, um, you know, I, I recently meditated with some monks-

Orlando Bloom 50:41 Yeah

Trevor Noah 50:41 ... who sa- and it's funny because, you know, you, you practice Buddhism.

Orlando Bloom 50:44 Yeah

Trevor Noah 50:44 That is one of the fundamental principles-

Orlando Bloom 50:46 Yeah

Trevor Noah 50:46 ... is understanding that it is all fleeting.

Orlando Bloom 50:50 Yeah

Trevor Noah 50:50 Understanding that it is all temporary.

Orlando Bloom 50:52 Yeah

Trevor Noah 50:53 But having more appreciation for it because of that

Orlando Bloom 50:56 It's like we keep, we, you know, some of us just keep focused on this life. It's like, like, let's, I'm thinking about the next life.

Trevor Noah 51:02 Mm-hmm

Orlando Bloom 51:02 You know what I mean? I'm like, n- this life, let me just, don't fuck it up. I've already been given some plate, I've been dealt some pretty nice hand.

Trevor Noah 51:09 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 51:10 Don't F it up. But like, let's build for the next one, so when you drop in next time, you've like, you've done enough to be able to go, "Okay, I, am I good here? Do you want me back?" You know what I mean?

Trevor Noah 51:23 Right, right, right

Orlando Bloom 51:23 In a way, you know what I mean? Like in my brain I'm like, "Did I, did I get flying colors last time around?"

Trevor Noah 51:29 Oh, I like that. I like that

Orlando Bloom 51:29 Or enough to bring me back

Trevor Noah 51:30 Nice

Orlando Bloom 51:30 You know what I mean? So that's-

Trevor Noah 51:32 Yeah. What, what seeds do you plant today to enjoy the forest tomorrow, essentially

Orlando Bloom 51:35 Correct. Yeah, correct.

Trevor Noah 51:36 Yeah

Orlando Bloom 51:36 And um, but even if for lifetimes.

Trevor Noah 51:39 Yeah, no, I, I like that philosophy

Orlando Bloom 51:39 I always say to, I, I used to say to Katie, you know, like, "We're doing lifetimes, baby. Like, you're here, and we're doing lifetimes. It's not this one, so let's, you know." It's like we're doing life- I, I think everything is myst- I think we're all interconnected, you know? So yeah.

Trevor Noah 51:53 Well, thank you

Orlando Bloom 51:53 I like that. Thanks, man.

Trevor Noah 51:54 Thank you. Thank you for, for this lifetime, for this moment, and uh-

Orlando Bloom 51:57 Thank you

Trevor Noah 51:57 ... here's to the next one

Orlando Bloom 51:58 Yeah.

Trevor Noah 51:59 I'm glad you're alive

Orlando Bloom 52:00 Thanks, dude.

Trevor Noah 52:00 Yeah.

Orlando Bloom 52:00 Appreciate you. We'll do this again another time.

Trevor Noah 52:03 We will, definitely.

Orlando Bloom 52:05 Love it. Oh, Trevor, you're a sweet man. [upbeat music]

Trevor Noah 52:13 What Now? with Trevor Noah is produced by Spotify Studios in partnership with Day Zero Productions and Fullwell 73. The show is executive produced by Trevor Noah, Ben Winston, Sanaa Yaman, and Jody Avigan. Our senior producer is Jess Hackel. Marina Henke is our producer. Music mixing and mastering by Hannis Brown. Thank you so much for listening. Join me next Thursday for another episode of What Now? [upbeat music]

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