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South Africa Sessions: Staring Down Death Twice in One Week ft. Khaya Dlanga

Why do your shoes always fly off in a car accident? Trevor, Eugene, and Khaya chase that question straight into Eugene’s own wild motorbike crash story, involving a T-bone, a second accident two days later, and somehow living to tell the tale. From there, the conversation takes its usual unexpected turns, from South African taxi stickers and quick funerals to a rumor involving Stevie Wonder and Nelson Mandela. And the guys take a moment to remember Dolly Parton, reflecting on the music, humor, and humanity that made her so beloved. Subscribe for more conversations from What Now? with Trevor Noah: http://bit.ly/SubscribeTrevorNoah Or follow the podcast on your other favorite platforms... SiriusXM Apple Podcasts - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnApplePodcasts Spotify - https://bit.ly/WhatNowOnSpotify #WhatNow #TrevorNoah #KhayaDlanga 0:00 - Cold Open: Dolly Parton's Funeral Plans 2:00 - South African "Clap Once" Culture 3:30 - Trevor Derails Meetings in America 5:30 - Testifying Before Congress (SA Style) 9:00 - State Capture & The Zondo Commission 12:00 - The Guy Arrested 7 Times (With a Lunch Box) 16:00 - Do South African Commissions Have Teeth? 19:00 - Right to Remain Silent: SA vs USA 21:00 - Why South Africa Needs Juries 25:00 - Legal Twitter & Springbok Pilots 27:00 - The Flyover: Were Those Planes Too Low? 34:00 - Malcolm Gladwell, Hierarchy & Plane Crashes 36:30 - Taxi Stickers: South Africa's First Comedy 43:00 - No Fat People in the Front Seat 45:00 - The Emergency Exit That Said "Kick Here" 48:00 - Why Shoes Come Off in Accidents 55:00 - Eugene's Motorcycle Crash (Somersault x2) 1:03:00 - Two Crashes in Two Days 1:06:00 - Do You Know When You're Dying in Your Sleep? 1:08:00 - Eugene's "Inception" — Vaseline in the Nose 1:12:00 - Funerals in Eswatini vs South Africa 1:18:00 - Trevor's Grandmother's Funeral on Zoom 1:24:00 - The Church Spam-Pam: Trevor's First Instrument 1:32:00 - Prayer Shade: Grannies Throwing Hands in Prayer 1:38:00 - Khaya's Revelation: "I Thought I'd Die at 41" 1:44:00 - Dolly Parton, Black South Africa & Stevie Wonder 1:51:00 - Stevie Wonder Wrote That Song for Mandela?? 1:55:00 - Khaya's New Life: Marriage, Kids & Starting Over 1:58:00 - How Khaya Ends Conversations (Sitcom Style) 2:02:00 - Outro & Stevie Wonder Fact Check

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EVERY SPOKEN WORD

  1. 0:002:00

    Cold Open: Dolly Parton's Funeral Plans

    1. TN

      [upbeat music] 'Cause me and I was there, Khaya, participating, like we are all sad that Dolly died. So then my mom, she like flips immediate- she goes from like mourning the loss, the whole thing, and then she's like, "Yo, by the way," she's like, "Did you see that she planned her whole funeral and, like, uh, rehearsed it and..." I was like, "What are you talking about?" She's like, "Yeah."

    2. KD

      Mm.

    3. TN

      She saw this thing where planned it, rehearsed it, told everyone what it's gonna be, how she's gonna dress, whatever. She's wanna be buried in high heels, whatever. Then I was like, "Oh, that's cool." Then my mom was like, "No." She's like, "What? Control freak." Somersault one.

    4. KD

      Wow.

    5. TN

      Ah. Somersault two.

    6. KD

      Damn.

    7. TN

      Land on my head.

    8. KD

      Yoh.

    9. TN

      On my back, pass out.

    10. KD

      My god.

    11. TN

      Now I'm on the side of oncoming traffic.

    12. KD

      Ah.

    13. TN

      So I can't hear the beep, but this guy's selling... You know, that's why I'll never support informal small businesses again.

    14. KD

      [laughs]

    15. TN

      Now-

    16. KD

      People

    17. TN

      ... now imagine if there's a thing here. Now I'm this guy.

    18. KD

      Ah. [laughs]

    19. TN

      Nah, bro. There's no swag here. Here, I'm gonna stop at red lights.

    20. KD

      Mm.

    21. TN

      Here, ah, fuck.

    22. KD

      [laughs]

    23. TN

      Every few months there's those pilots who do, like, a trick and something.

    24. KD

      The HAM. Mm-hmm.

    25. TN

      And they fly past the people. There was the one... Did you see the one where they, um, they do the supersonic boom? You know, when they go like that fast?

    26. KD

      Oh, I saw it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

    27. TN

      And they did it too close to the people.

    28. KD

      Yeah.

    29. TN

      I like that. Blew kids away, everything.

    30. KD

      [laughs]

  2. 2:003:30

    South African "Clap Once" Culture

    1. KD

      Wait, wait, wait, wait.

    2. TN

      Uh-huh.

    3. KD

      Wait.

    4. TN

      Uh, uh.

    5. KD

      If une clap, yeah.

    6. TN

      Yeah. Isn't there the-

    7. KD

      That's the one, init?

    8. TN

      Yeah.

    9. KD

      And then if they are clap amanje, aren't we ruining the clap?

    10. TN

      Oh, no, we're fine. No. In fact, any clap is fine. Yeah. Even the one that comes after the first, I think. Yeah, but any clap. Yes.

    11. KD

      [laughs]

    12. TN

      [laughs]

    13. KD

      Education for some of us.

    14. TN

      Yeah.

    15. KD

      This type of clap.

    16. TN

      Any clap is fine.

    17. KD

      Oh, man, I thought-

    18. TN

      Yeah

    19. KD

      ... you could only clap once.

    20. TN

      No, no, no, no, no. The clap-

    21. KD

      Claps once

    22. TN

      ... is, is just to signify something.

    23. KD

      That claps once means something else than to clapping once. The one... He has claps once.

    24. TN

      That's a good one. [laughs]

    25. KD

      He knows claps once.

    26. TN

      I know claps once.

    27. KD

      [laughs]

    28. TN

      Yeah, no, claps once.

    29. KD

      But it's an SA thing, clap once, né?

    30. TN

      Yeah, clap, yeah. It's like-

  3. 3:305:30

    Trevor Derails Meetings in America

    1. TN

      hand? Are you holding something? What are you doing?" That-

    2. KD

      Sam, Sam, Sam

    3. TN

      ... do you explain?

    4. KD

      [laughs]

    5. TN

      Yeah, but it, like, derails meetings.

    6. KD

      Ah, then-

    7. TN

      I'm not even lying

    8. KD

      ... everything's over

    9. TN

      ... it completely throws everything off.

    10. KD

      Save it for when you testify in Congress.

    11. TN

      Né?

    12. KD

      That is funny.

    13. TN

      That would be dope, actually.

    14. KD

      That'd be amazing.

    15. TN

      Sitting in front of the senators there.

    16. KD

      Yeah. "And Mr. Noah, where did the money go?"

    17. TN

      "So, okay, the money came in, né?"

    18. KD

      [laughs]

    19. TN

      "Next thing you know, yatsi."

    20. KD

      "Yatsi."

    21. TN

      Then they're like, "Wait, wait, hold on."

    22. KD

      "That car." [laughs]

    23. TN

      "Yatsi. Yatsi."

    24. KD

      "That's your partner."

    25. TN

      "Next thing, debit order."

    26. KD

      [laughs]

    27. TN

      "Next thing, car. Next thing, next thing, ah, Senator, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me not lie to you guys, eh? Ah, Senator."

    28. KD

      "International sweep like-"

    29. TN

      "And I thought it was gonna last forever, Senator. Ah, next thing, hlawa. Next thing, yatsi. Next thing, yatsi. Aye, Senator, let me tell you something, yeah? I, I, I, I, I regret that I stole that money-

    30. KD

      [laughs]

  4. 5:309:00

    Testifying Before Congress (SA Style)

    1. KD

      seven times. [laughs]

    2. TN

      Well, this is now-

    3. KD

      During the commission. [laughs]

    4. TN

      Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

    5. KD

      Yes.

    6. TN

      Wait, wait.

    7. KD

      Julius Malema.

    8. TN

      Yeah. Yeah.

    9. KD

      Yes.

    10. TN

      What do you mean he's been arrested seven times?

    11. KD

      He's been arre- bail, then-

    12. TN

      Another case

    13. KD

      ... and then another ca- someone else testifies-

    14. TN

      You're lying

    15. KD

      ... in the commission.

    16. TN

      You're lying.

    17. KD

      He is implicated again, bam, arrested again.

    18. TN

      They fetch him again.

    19. KD

      They fetch him again.

    20. TN

      Put him in a car.

    21. KD

      Bail, puts him in a car again, ba. Like one-

    22. TN

      Appears again

    23. KD

      ... and one again, like one-

    24. TN

      He gets bail

    25. KD

      ... two, three, four, five.

    26. TN

      Five now. We're on number five.

    27. KD

      Number five. [laughs]

    28. TN

      Five different cases.

    29. KD

      Do, do they not go at some point, "Ah, my man, just stay."

    30. TN

      [laughs] Just stay.

  5. 9:0012:00

    State Capture & The Zondo Commission

    1. TN

      do. They're just like, "No, we're, we're coming after you for not testifying."

    2. EU

      Yeah, but so, and yet you wanna... Zondo writes a report.

    3. TN

      Yeah.

    4. EU

      Makes recommendations, sends the recommendation to NPA, so National Prosecuting Authority.

    5. TN

      Okay.

    6. EU

      Department of Justice, basically. "Ngenandla"

    7. TN

      Yeah

    8. EU

      ... prosecute these people.

    9. TN

      Yeah.

    10. EU

      Now, there, the state prosecutors, that's where they all live. But then it turns out ukuthi there, there were, there was no willingness to prosecute in the first place. Enter Mkhwanazi. Mm. Mkhwanazi's like, "No, the police are captured." Not only the police-

    11. TN

      Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait

    12. EU

      ... the judiciary.

    13. TN

      Okay, you guys are building the story nicely for me.

    14. KD

      Yeah.

    15. EU

      Mm.

    16. TN

      Is Mkhwanazi the guy that came out-

    17. EU

      The general.

    18. KD

      The press conference

    19. TN

      ... the, the press conference?

    20. KD

      That thing.

    21. TN

      Yo, this was one of the most gangster things I've ever seen.

    22. KD

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    23. EU

      Mm, mm.

    24. TN

      'Cause I just saw a video-

    25. KD

      Mm

    26. TN

      ... where this top cop came out-

    27. EU

      Mm-mm

    28. TN

      ... with no, um-

    29. EU

      Warning, nothing

    30. TN

      ... warning, no-

  6. 12:0016:00

    The Guy Arrested 7 Times (With a Lunch Box)

    1. EU

      did you do that?"

    2. TN

      Okay, got it.

    3. EU

      And then you reply.

    4. KD

      Yeah.

    5. EU

      That's already part of your statement.

    6. TN

      Yes, that's why, that's why you're not... Because it's, like, it's, it's, uh, against what your counsel might have told you to say or not say.

    7. KD

      Yes.

    8. EU

      Yes, so you must just keep quiet.

    9. KD

      But also-

    10. TN

      But it's different if you're in, like, court now.

    11. EU

      In court you can say

    12. TN

      I invoke the right not to incriminate myself

    13. KD

      However, even then-

    14. TN

      Okay, but no, guys, can we-

    15. KD

      Even then there is a blanket

    16. TN

      ... let, let, but wait, can we-

    17. KD

      It's, it's going to be something very specific

    18. TN

      ... yeah, but can we talk about this for a second?

    19. EU

      Yeah. Yeah.

    20. TN

      Like, okay, here we don't have juries.

    21. EU

      Yes.

    22. TN

      I'm not gonna lie.

    23. EU

      Yeah.

    24. TN

      If I was on a jury-

    25. EU

      Your Twitter

    26. TN

      ... let me tell you something.

    27. EU

      [laughs]

    28. TN

      I wish South Africa had juries.

    29. EU

      Me too.

    30. KD

      Yo.

  7. 16:0019:00

    Do South African Commissions Have Teeth?

    1. EU

      our thing in South Africa.

    2. KD

      It's almost like you can just touch it. Like, I was there.

    3. EU

      Yeah.

    4. KD

      I was like, "I think I can touch this thing."

    5. EU

      I think this might have been actually the smallest flyover plane-wise, 'cause th- those were Embraers, né?

    6. KD

      Small plane.

    7. TN

      Yes.

    8. KD

      Yeah, it was two.

    9. TN

      Maybe that's why they could fly so low, because they were Embraers. They weren't, um-

    10. EU

      Yes, 747s.

    11. TN

      Yeah, they weren't 747s or 737s.

    12. EU

      Yes.

    13. KD

      But, but, but isn't... Is it, is it the first time we were flying two?

    14. EU

      Yeah, because they were small.

    15. KD

      I think... But I know small.

    16. EU

      They're usually one.

    17. KD

      Yes, 'cause they always fly one.

    18. TN

      'Cause they're small. 'Cause I think it's-

    19. KD

      And I think that's what made it-

    20. TN

      Yeah

    21. EU

      ... 'cause this is SA-

    22. KD

      ... bad

    23. EU

      ... it's Airlink

    24. KD

      ... Airlink, yeah.

    25. EU

      It, it's not a, it's... Airlink is like a, a regional carrier.

    26. KD

      Yeah. Yeah.

    27. TN

      Yes.

    28. EU

      It's not a long-haul-

    29. KD

      Yeah

    30. EU

      ... international carrier.

  8. 19:0021:00

    Right to Remain Silent: SA vs USA

    1. TN

      No, no, no, no, no.

    2. EU

      There's, there's four people now.

    3. TN

      I'm completely in agreement with you now.

    4. EU

      Yes. 100%.

    5. KD

      And I'm glad you should say this. Uh, remember Outliers, uh, Malcolm Gladwell?

    6. TN

      Yeah.

    7. KD

      So in his book there, he specifically speaks actually about, uh, safety protocols and all of that when it comes to airlines.

    8. TN

      Yeah.

    9. KD

      Because he was talking about, like, South Korea used to have, like, insane-

    10. TN

      They had a lot of crashes, yeah

    11. KD

      ... number of crashes.

    12. TN

      Mm.

    13. KD

      And one of the reasons that happened was because the pilots, the co-pilots, 'cause of the hierarchy struc- you know, hierarchy-

    14. TN

      Yes, yes, yes

    15. KD

      ... the co-pilot, you were not allowed to tell your boss or your captain-

    16. TN

      Yes

    17. KD

      ... "You're going to kill us now."

    18. TN

      Oh.

    19. EU

      Yeah.

    20. KD

      So you have to imply, and they must figure out what you're trying to say. So you can't really tell Jonga, "You're gonna kill us," right?

    21. TN

      Yes, yes, yes.

    22. KD

      But then, and they found that the countries that had the, uh, hierarchy, hi- high rates of hierarchy-

    23. TN

      Yes

    24. KD

      ... you were more likely to have, uh, crashes than countries that did not. And South Africa-

    25. EU

      Kind of like a flat structure.

    26. KD

      Yeah. South Africa-

    27. EU

      Like on this podcast

    28. KD

      ... South Africa does not... It's not that we don't respect authority, we question authority, and because South Africa questions authority, we have one of the lowest fatalities in the world.

    29. TN

      And you know what also-

    30. EU

      'Cause here our co-pilots are like-

  9. 21:0025:00

    Why South Africa Needs Juries

    1. TN

      remember that one?

    2. KD

      No.

    3. TN

      It was on the outside.

    4. KD

      That one. That's outside.

    5. TN

      Yeah. "This taxi can stop anywhere at any time."

    6. KD

      Yes.

    7. EU

      I think we still need it today.

    8. KD

      [laughs] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    9. TN

      But there was one-

    10. KD

      Yeah

    11. TN

      ... that used to say... It was something to the effect of, "Just because you are in the front seat seeing something with me does not mean you are driving this taxi." It was something to that effect.

    12. KD

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true.

    13. TN

      Yeah.

    14. KD

      Yeah.

    15. TN

      Because people in the front seat would always be like... 'Cause now you're sitting right next to the taxi driver, and remember, taxis in South Africa, they're not like normal cars in that-

    16. EU

      Yes

    17. TN

      ... there's no hood.

    18. KD

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    19. TN

      There's no... It's just-

    20. EU

      They're in the front

    21. TN

      ... there's no-

    22. KD

      It's just like... Yeah

    23. TN

      ... yeah, so you, it's like being in the front seat of a rollercoaster.

    24. KD

      Yeah, actually, yeah. [laughs]

    25. TN

      You know what I mean?

    26. KD

      It's, it's different.

    27. TN

      So everything's here.

    28. KD

      Yeah.

    29. TN

      So then everyone next to the taxi driver would be like, "Hey, hey, hey, hey."

    30. KD

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  10. 25:0027:00

    Legal Twitter & Springbok Pilots

    1. TN

      going-

    2. KD

      [laughs]

    3. TN

      ... "What is, what am I doing with my life?"

    4. EU

      And you're being shouted over the shoulder.

    5. KD

      Yeah.

    6. TN

      Yeah.

    7. EU

      You know those, "Hey wena, ‘salanto neh."

    8. KD

      Yeah. [laughs]

    9. TN

      Guys, this is the trauma we've lived.

    10. KD

      Hey.

    11. EU

      Yo, man.

    12. TN

      Yeah, so there was, so there were those ones, and then there was the stickers on the windows-

    13. KD

      Mm

    14. TN

      ... that gave you general etiquette. There was another one about speaking loud.

    15. KD

      I know the- I don't remember what-

    16. TN

      There was a, there was a, there was a sticker

    17. KD

      ... there was also, there was also a music one.

    18. TN

      Yes.

    19. KD

      But like-

    20. TN

      Yes

    21. KD

      ... but you can't request, yeah.

    22. TN

      Yes.

    23. KD

      Yeah.

    24. TN

      Don't request music.

    25. KD

      Don't request music.

    26. TN

      And then there was-

    27. KD

      'Cause there were some people who tell the, tell, tell, tell the, tell the taxi driver and say, "Oh, can you play this song?"

    28. TN

      Yeah, no.

    29. KD

      It's like, "Listen, I'm not a DJ. I'm a driver." [laughs]

    30. TN

      There were, there were a lot of them.

  11. 27:0034:00

    The Flyover: Were Those Planes Too Low?

    1. TN

      Even if you get bumped by a car.

    2. EU

      Yeah, shoes, but socks are on.

    3. TN

      Shoes.

    4. KD

      Just flying.

    5. TN

      Shoes are always like-

    6. KD

      Yeah

    7. EU

      ... but shoe-

    8. TN

      Yeah

    9. EU

      ... yeah, shoes leave the chat first.

    10. TN

      Yeah.

    11. KD

      [laughs]

    12. EU

      Why?

    13. KD

      I've never noticed that.

    14. TN

      I think it's because maybe as people, when we're in, like, a very, very... When, whenever humans are in a situation-

    15. EU

      Our feet get small

    16. TN

      ... no. Whenever humans are in, like, a very, like, exciting, stressful situation, I think our feet, like, do things.

    17. EU

      Ah, ah, nah.

    18. TN

      I'm telling you.

    19. EU

      Every accident, nigga, there's shoes every- strewn.

    20. TN

      Yes, yes.

    21. EU

      I've always wanted to use that word.

    22. TN

      You used it correctly.

    23. EU

      Strewn everywhere.

    24. TN

      Yes.

    25. EU

      All sorts, shoes.

    26. TN

      You're not wrong.

    27. EU

      Shoes with no socks.

    28. TN

      You're not wrong.

    29. EU

      Why?

    30. TN

      And I'm saying-

  12. 34:0036:30

    Malcolm Gladwell, Hierarchy & Plane Crashes

    1. EU

      their business. So finally I come to inside my helmet, I'm like, "Oh, what's going on?" Then I'm like, "Why am I looking at the sky? Why is, why am I hot here?" Yeah. I get up, bike is T-boned to the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The driver's side. Oh, the bike is in the car? Yeah, it went in. Yeah. Phelang it went, craba. Yeah. The driver's out, came out. She came out on the other side. Now she's towering over me as a teacher, you know, she's wearing those teacher skirts, those long ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's asking me questions about what was I thinking. [laughs] And then she asked me-

    2. TN

      I don't have time to think now.

    3. EU

      Yeah, she asked me-

    4. TN

      Yeah, yeah

    5. EU

      ... "What, what were you thinking?" And I'm like, "I don't know who you are."

    6. TN

      Yeah.

    7. EU

      "I don't know what's going on, and why is my bed so hard?"

    8. TN

      [laughs]

    9. EU

      Kanti, an accident had happened.

    10. TN

      Wow.

    11. EU

      Damn, bro. So I look around, I'm finally going, "Okay, let me do check," 'cause I need to know the rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You must first check if your neck is fine.

    12. TN

      Yeah.

    13. EU

      'Cause you can cause more damage.

    14. TN

      Mm.

    15. EU

      So I try move my feet first and I'm like, "Okay, feet can move." Yeah. I'm like, "Hands can move." Then I'm like, "Okay, I'm gonna try twist my back without turning my neck." Twist my back, twist my back. I'm like, "I'm grand." Then I whoop, get up.

    16. TN

      Undertaker style.

    17. EU

      Yeah.

    18. TN

      Uh.

    19. EU

      Then where I am versus where the bike is, maybe there where the tables are, that's where the bike is and the car. So I went all the way opposite direction of oncoming traffic.

    20. TN

      San Maria.

    21. EU

      I get up, then I'm all good again. Where were your shoes?

    22. TN

      [laughs]

    23. EU

      [laughs] I'm like... [laughs]

    24. TN

      Clap once. [laughs]

    25. EU

      [laughs]

    26. TN

      Yo, dude, I'm glad you're okay though.

    27. EU

      Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm also glad I'm okay.

    28. TN

      Oh, man.

    29. EU

      So, dude, so it's the helmet that obviously helped you as well? I think it was God. 'Cause, 'cause, 'cause- I think it was the fall ... 'cause you hit your, your head first, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but hit- The helmet, yeah. Yeah, kwang, and then, [whistles] 'cause I still have the scar. I'll show you.

    30. TN

      You, you also wearing jackets.

  13. 36:3043:00

    Taxi Stickers: South Africa's First Comedy

    1. EU

      No, no.

    2. TN

      Are you serious?

    3. EU

      I know.

    4. TN

      Yo, bro, are you serious?

    5. EU

      And Khaya, you know how production managers care about the shoot only.

    6. TN

      [laughs]

    7. EU

      I'm like, "Guys, I'm in an accident." They're like, "Yeah, so we are figured, man."

    8. TN

      [laughs]

    9. EU

      No way, you're lying. I'm telling you

    10. KD

      Oh my goodness

    11. TN

      A week later, I was like, "No, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine." Now then I can feel numbness on my back, numbness on my back. I'm like, "No, I'm not fine." Went for a scan. They were like, "Oh, you've got an acute pinched nerve. What happened here?" It was the accident and then the-

    12. KD

      Multiplied by-

    13. TN

      Yeah

    14. KD

      ... the being rammed from the back. Mm, mm, mm. Two lives.

    15. TN

      In two days. If you, if you were telling this to your American friends, they'd be like, "Man, Eugene, you were super unlucky."

    16. KD

      [laughs]

    17. TN

      If you tell it to your African friends-

    18. KD

      Eh

    19. TN

      ... they'd be like, "Somebody was trying to kill you."

    20. KD

      [laughs]

    21. TN

      "There is some witchcraft somewhere in the world and somebody was trying to kill you."

    22. KD

      [laughs]

    23. TN

      "I hope you prayed after that."

    24. KD

      [laughs]

    25. TN

      I prayed. I, I, I was like-

    26. KD

      Yo. Oh, that is insane

    27. TN

      ... there's no way you survive something like that and think everything is normal. Don't press anything. We've got more What Now? after this. The reason your life flashes before your eyes before you die is because your brain is searching for any, um-

    28. KD

      For news

    29. TN

      ... memory that could save you from this moment.

    30. KD

      Oh.

  14. 43:0045:00

    No Fat People in the Front Seat

    1. EU

      the correct-

    2. TN

      ... is the, is the correct translation.

    3. EU

      Mm.

    4. KD

      Yes

    5. TN

      But if you say it in Vaneck, if you say like in Zulu-

    6. EU

      Mm

    7. TN

      ... if you go like Benjani or like, you know the-

    8. EU

      The Benjani, yeah

    9. TN

      ... the Benjani. Like you-

    10. EU

      Yeah

    11. TN

      ... you would go-

    12. EU

      Yeah

    13. TN

      ... it's more like how did it unfold?

    14. EU

      Yeah.

    15. TN

      How, how did it turn out to be?

    16. EU

      You know, yeah, so-

    17. TN

      As opposed to like, how was it?

    18. EU

      Yes. Yes. You're right.

    19. KD

      'Cause, 'cause what you say is like usually people will say like, Simbekile-

    20. TN

      Yeah

    21. KD

      ... which is we have put him-

    22. TN

      Yes

    23. KD

      ... or her-

    24. TN

      Yeah

    25. KD

      ... the direct translation.

    26. TN

      Yes.

    27. KD

      Right? But actually, 'cause I'd never been to a funeral service like that in my entire life.

    28. TN

      Why? What was different?

    29. KD

      Hm. Because Eswatini-

    30. TN

      There was a DJ. [laughs]

  15. 45:0048:00

    The Emergency Exit That Said "Kick Here"

    1. KD

      unusual."

    2. TN

      You know, you know where Khaya was like-

    3. KD

      Yeah

    4. TN

      ... "'cause that's one of those weird situations-

    5. KD

      Eh

    6. TN

      ... where you gotta be like, "Guys, guys, guys, you're killing me here."

    7. KD

      [laughs]

    8. EU

      [laughs]

    9. TN

      "I can't... Wait, sorry, let me rephrase. What I mean is I can't live like this. Sorry, let me rephrase."

    10. KD

      [laughs]

    11. TN

      "Uh, guys, what I mean-"

    12. KD

      Oh, hey. [laughs] Hello.

    13. EU

      It is, it is-

    14. KD

      Oh, to check his card? Yeah.

    15. EU

      Yeah.

    16. KD

      It is very interesting.

    17. TN

      [laughs]

    18. KD

      And I remember thinking, I was like, "Guys, in the Eastern Cape, nè, we're already having breakfast. It would not have started, a funeral wouldn't have started by-"

    19. TN

      So did you-

    20. KD

      On a Sat- yeah

    21. TN

      ... did you prefer it, or did you-

    22. KD

      Ja, that's what I was-

    23. TN

      How did you-

    24. KD

      I did not app- you know, like, you know, you know, may my friend rest in peace. I did not appreciate waking up so early. [laughs] I was like, "Why the-"

    25. TN

      It's the least you can do for him

    26. KD

      ... I was like, "Hey, what's this?"

    27. TN

      Khaya.

    28. KD

      I was like, "Wake up." But they accommodated, I think, people from out of town. They actually made the service at 6:00 rather than-

    29. TN

      Oh

    30. KD

      ... 4:00.

  16. 48:0055:00

    Why Shoes Come Off in Accidents

    1. TN

      happening in the background.

    2. EU

      Yes. Yes.

    3. TN

      Great. Some of the songs I like stage four.

    4. EU

      You can sing along.

    5. KD

      Yeah.

    6. TN

      No, some of them I've... Like the ones that I knew-

    7. EU

      Oh, yeah, it hits there

    8. KD

      Yeah

    9. TN

      ... so the ones that I knew-

    10. EU

      Oh, yeah, that hits

    11. TN

      ... no, the ones that I knew were my gran's favorites-

    12. KD

      Yeah

    13. EU

      You stick, you stick around for that

    14. TN

      ... that I had known-

    15. KD

      Mm

    16. TN

      ... then I would sing those. You know what I mean?

    17. KD

      [sings]

    18. TN

      [sings]

    19. EU

      Expose me.

    20. TN

      [sings]

    21. EU

      You stick around for that one.

    22. TN

      [sings]

    23. KD

      Ah.

    24. TN

      Then I'm, ah, 'cause that like fully brought my gran back to me.

    25. EU

      Sure.

    26. TN

      Does that make sense?

    27. EU

      Yeah.

    28. KD

      Yeah.

    29. TN

      So those ones where I was like, "Ah, Gogo would be here."

    30. KD

      Mm.

  17. 55:001:03:00

    Eugene's Motorcycle Crash (Somersault x2)

    1. TN

      you're just like, you're like, "Yo, these prayers don't end."

    2. EU

      And they used to come during cartoon time, eh?

    3. TN

      My man, I wish it was cartoon time. That wasn't even about cartoon time, 'cause we w- it was at my gran's house in Orlando. We didn't have, like, a TV in that way. I don't even remember us having a TV- So it was at night

    4. KD

      Oh, it was one of those.

    5. TN

      It was the evening ones-

    6. KD

      Ah

    7. TN

      ... where everyone would, all the other grannies would come over

    8. KD

      Ah, I know those. Those. Yeah.

    9. EU

      The Thursday one.

    10. TN

      And then the ones where not only that, but remember they would all throw shade at each other in the prayers.

    11. EU

      Yes. [laughs]

    12. TN

      Do you remember that one?

    13. KD

      I remember. Prayer off.

    14. TN

      Prayer... Guys-

    15. KD

      [laughs]

    16. TN

      Guys-

    17. KD

      Prayer off

    18. TN

      ... that was the most, the most gay... 'Cause I remember as a kid being like-

    19. EU

      [laughs]

    20. TN

      'Cause what they would do is they would go-

    21. KD

      That's funny. Prayer off. [laughs]

    22. TN

      They would, they would pray. They would pray, but they would be like, "Oh, but we to Summer's Lynn."

    23. KD

      Yeah.

    24. TN

      "Oh, Heavenly Father up above." Then they'd be like, "Oh. Oh Heavenly Father, we thank you for being here with us." You know, they do the introductions.

    25. KD

      Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

    26. TN

      But so my gran would always be like, "Wait, Kamala, Matthew, Francis, Noah, and Clara up at 6236 Orlando Estate," where they should give the full address. Every- And even as a kid, I used to be like, "Ow, he doesn't know where we are." [laughs]

    27. EU

      [laughs]

    28. KD

      [laughs]

    29. TN

      But I, but can I tell you, I appreciated the humility.

    30. KD

      Yeah. Yeah.

  18. 1:03:001:06:00

    Two Crashes in Two Days

    1. TN

      is to-

    2. EU

      It's not a, it's not a head continental pillow.

    3. TN

      Hey, my man.

    4. EU

      It's a headrest.

    5. TN

      Hey, my man. My man.

    6. EU

      Yeah, but they, they pass it.

    7. TN

      Hey, my man. My man.

    8. EU

      Okay, do this. Do this, Khaya. Do this. Hit the back of your... That's all I need.

    9. TN

      No, bruh.

    10. EU

      Well, now why is yours covering the whole entire thing?

    11. TN

      No, bruh. Also, like, as a taxi driver, you want to sit like this.

    12. KD

      Yeah.

    13. TN

      Now headrest here is killing me-

    14. KD

      Yeah

    15. TN

      ... 'cause this is the middle seat already.

    16. KD

      Yeah.

    17. TN

      This... I need this room to stake my claim. This is how I roll.

    18. EU

      Guys, but do we know what headrests are for?

    19. TN

      Yeah, but look at me.

    20. KD

      Yeah, but as a matter of taxi drivers.

    21. TN

      Look at me. Look at me.

    22. KD

      But they're not seat belts.

    23. TN

      See this? This is it.

    24. EU

      [laughs]

    25. KD

      Yeah.

    26. TN

      Yeah, but. Yeah, but.

    27. EU

      Yeah.

    28. KD

      Yeah.

    29. TN

      Yeah, but.

    30. EU

      Yeah.

  19. 1:06:001:08:00

    Do You Know When You're Dying in Your Sleep?

    1. TN

      [upbeat music] Did you find out what the, what the story is behind the shoes?

    2. KD

      Yeah, I did.

    3. TN

      Yeah, what is it?

    4. KD

      It's the violence of the impact it, uh, really has the human body, so-

    5. TN

      [laughs]

    6. KD

      ... the force of the shoes.

    7. TN

      This guy just said it's the violence of the impact.

    8. KD

      I'll give you the exact-

    9. EU

      No.

    10. KD

      I'll give you the exact one myself.

    11. TN

      But I said that in the beginning.

    12. EU

      Yeah, yeah.

    13. TN

      I did say in the beginning.

    14. EU

      Wait, but there must be... But-

    15. KD

      I'll give you the exact-

    16. EU

      Guys, remember-

    17. TN

      Yeah

    18. EU

      ... there must be something about-

    19. TN

      No, but okay. This, but, okay, let me, let me elaborate on what I meant.

    20. EU

      Yes.

    21. TN

      Let, let's go further.

    22. EU

      Mm-hmm.

    23. TN

      The reason I'm saying that is because the, the thing... So the reason-

    24. EU

      No, you must read it.

    25. TN

      No.

    26. EU

      [laughs]

    27. TN

      So the-

    28. KD

      I'll read it for you.

    29. EU

      Yeah.

    30. TN

      No, but the reason I'm saying that is because-

  20. 1:08:001:12:00

    Eugene's "Inception" — Vaseline in the Nose

    1. TN

      sudden stopping, and violent body movements overcome the hold of the footwear.

    2. KD

      Ah.

    3. TN

      So this makes complete sense. You know why? Because if I think about it as well- Yes. Thank you, Simmi.

    4. KD

      You're welcome.

    5. TN

      And one of the times when I would also lose my shoes the most is if I would try isipantsula dancing.

    6. KD

      [laughs]

    7. TN

      Read all the descriptions there.

    8. KD

      Violent movement. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    9. TN

      Violent movements. Say them again.

    10. KD

      Extreme physical forces.

    11. TN

      Wait, wait, I'll show you. I'll show on each one.

    12. KD

      Yeah.

    13. TN

      Extreme physical forces.

    14. KD

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    15. TN

      Yes, and?

    16. KD

      Sudden stopping.

    17. TN

      Yeah, yeah. [laughs] And?

    18. KD

      And violent body movements.

    19. TN

      [laughs]

    20. KD

      [laughs] Yeah, okay.

    21. TN

      Oh, man. You, you laugh, but you know what? To help people who watch this, you must put on a little isipantsula video-

    22. KD

      That's... Yeah, yeah

    23. TN

      ... under me while I'm talking, and you must show the feet and everything-

    24. KD

      Isipantsula

    25. TN

      ... so people can see. Yes. The violent stops.

    26. KD

      The violent-

    27. TN

      The violent stopping.

    28. KD

      Yeah, 'cause they're sudden. You're right

    29. TN

      ... and the sudden movement.

    30. KD

      Yeah.

  21. 1:12:001:18:00

    Funerals in Eswatini vs South Africa

    1. KD

      [laughs]

    2. TN

      If I think of like how Eugene would think of it, 'cause I'm like that's a person who's like, "So when you say-

    3. KD

      [laughs]

    4. TN

      ... when you say were-

    5. KD

      [laughs]

    6. TN

      ... were you, were you, what word do you mean?"

    7. KD

      [laughs]

    8. TN

      W- when you say were.

    9. KD

      Where.

    10. TN

      When you say who is she, what do you mean by she?

    11. KD

      Who do you mean by she? What does the word she mean?

    12. TN

      Do you mean who, who she is she as a person?

    13. KD

      [laughs]

    14. TN

      Who is she-

    15. KD

      To me

    16. TN

      ... to her family?

    17. KD

      [laughs]

    18. TN

      Who is she? [laughs] That's what that sounds like to me.

    19. KD

      Yeah. Yeah.

    20. TN

      Wait, so what's beyond... Angithi you live your whole life thinking 45, that's it.

    21. KD

      Yeah.

    22. TN

      Then what's beyond 45?

    23. KD

      41.

    24. TN

      I mean, 41.

    25. KD

      No.

    26. TN

      What's beyond that?

    27. KD

      Beyond...

    28. TN

      For honesty. What do you replace that with?

    29. KD

      Can I tell... It's like, it's confusion.

    30. TN

      Oh.

  22. 1:18:001:24:00

    Trevor's Grandmother's Funeral on Zoom

    1. KD

      and I like the discomfort of wanting to try new things, you know? Um, things that... I mean, for example, there, there's a thing that I've always said to myself, which is like, "The one thing I know I'll never ever be able to do is to start a business." Like, I don't think that I have the capacity for it. I don't think I have the, the, the, the, the, you know, the, the mental aptitude for it. But now I'm actually seriously considering, like, you know, doing something, like in that sign w- you, you know, a business that I'd love to, you know, to, to be involved in and start in, which is completely different from anything I've ever done in my life.

    2. TN

      Hmm.

    3. KD

      Like completely outside-

    4. TN

      I love that for you

    5. KD

      ... of my scope.

    6. TN

      I will say one thing.

    7. KD

      Yeah.

    8. TN

      If there's one thing that will kill you-

    9. KD

      Yeah

    10. TN

      ... it's starting a business.

    11. KD

      [laughs] Yeah.

    12. TN

      I'm just gonna tell you as your friend.

    13. KD

      [laughs] Yes.

    14. TN

      [laughs]

    15. KD

      [laughs]

    16. TN

      That... Man.

    17. KD

      Yeah, yeah.

    18. TN

      Death is such a, an interesting... E- Eugene and I were, uh, were hanging with my mom yesterday.

    19. KD

      Hmm.

    20. TN

      And it was so funny. She was so annoyed. So my mom was devastated, and I mean devastated at the news of Dolly Parton's passing.

    21. KD

      Oh, yes.

    22. TN

      My mom, she sort of lives in a time capsule. There's the life she lived before finding Christ-

    23. KD

      Mm

    24. TN

      ... and then there's her life in Christ.

    25. KD

      Hmm.

    26. TN

      That period is almost like stasis because it's like the Bible doesn't change, the scripture doesn't change, you know, and she's comfortable in that world. But then there's this world that she still loves and fondly remembers-

    27. KD

      Right

    28. TN

      ... and all of that. So that's when she was listening to secular music, and she was, like, part of the world and all. Those things hold a special place in her heart. Mm-hmm. Bro, let me tell you something. People have died, and my mom will be like, "Oh, I heard whoever passed away. Oh, I'm... You... I can't believe it. I can't believe it." Oh, oh, Sam Mandela died. Oh, Sam. Yeah, those vibes, those- [laughs] Guys. Jeez, Khaya, you took it there.

    29. KD

      [laughs]

    30. TN

      Let me tell you something. Anawa ndoda. Let me tell you something. Hey, hey, khuzeka.

  23. 1:24:001:32:00

    The Church Spam-Pam: Trevor's First Instrument

    1. KD

      as to Madiba while he was in prison.

    2. TN

      That song to Nelson Mandela?

    3. KD

      Yes. "I just called to say I love you." Yeah.

    4. TN

      Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

    5. KD

      Yes.

    6. TN

      Stevie Wonder-

    7. KD

      Stevie Wonder

    8. TN

      ... wrote that song-

    9. KD

      It's dedicated to Madiba

    10. TN

      ... to Nelson Mandela?

    11. KD

      To Nelson Mandela.

    12. TN

      What?

    13. KD

      Yes.

    14. TN

      Damn.

    15. KD

      [laughs] Yeah. And, and, and, and of course, happy birthday to you, MLK.

    16. TN

      Yo, that's crazy.

    17. KD

      Yeah.

    18. TN

      Yo.

    19. KD

      But then-

    20. TN

      Sorry, wait. So my- You know what I'm thinking now? Uh, uh-

    21. KD

      The comedian part of my brain.

    22. TN

      Don't, don't- The comedian part of my brain ... don't you dare. The comedian- Don't you. Just for comedy. Okay. [laughs] Just for comedy. Not for real life.

    23. KD

      Yeah. Cut. Okay, cut.

    24. TN

      Simi, comedy disclaimer. [laughs] The following is not appropriate for sensitive viewers. [laughs]

    25. KD

      [laughs]

    26. TN

      Viewer discretion is advised. Yeah.

    27. KD

      Yeah.

    28. TN

      Just for comedy.

    29. KD

      Mm.

    30. TN

      I'm picturing now the song comes out, mega hit all over the world. Nelson Mandela's in Robben Island. He's in prison. The, the, the guard comes through, busy playing it on a mini radio. "I just called to say-"

  24. 1:32:001:38:00

    Prayer Shade: Grannies Throwing Hands in Prayer

    1. KD

      throwing that and-"

    2. TN

      An outfit

    3. KD

      ... you know what I mean?

    4. TN

      Pay your baba in advance.

    5. KD

      Yeah

    6. TN

      [laughs]

    7. KD

      And then, but then we were having a discussion. We're like, "Maybe it's because we've never had the luxury-

    8. TN

      Mm

    9. KD

      ... but we don't know of any, like, Black people doing that ever."

    10. TN

      Yeah, I can't, I can't think of anybody, unless you are state president.

    11. KD

      But that's what I mean. Like-

    12. TN

      Mm

    13. KD

      ... we couldn't think of anyone-

    14. TN

      Yeah

    15. KD

      ... saying, "Yeah, we're going. It's our last family trip because Grandpa's going soon."

    16. TN

      Yeah.

    17. KD

      You'd be like, "Going where?"

    18. TN

      Eish, yeah, but when your grandmother stops drinking Tab [laughs] that's funny. Uh, we ask-

    19. KD

      That's when you know

    20. TN

      ... yeah

    21. KD

      ... yeah.

    22. TN

      She starts, she starts-

    23. KD

      Coke straight

    24. TN

      ... y- y- you are so funny. Like, I remember like-

    25. KD

      [laughs]

    26. TN

      ... you know, like, in twen- 2014 for the World Cup-

    27. KD

      Oh, man

    28. TN

      ... in Brazil, my grandmother, you know, from my dad's side, you know, she was getting sick and, and, you know, she was being hospitalized, and you could see it as like the last few days.

    29. KD

      Mm-hmm.

    30. TN

      And I remember thinking, "This woman better not die before I go to Brazil for the World Cup." [laughs]

  25. 1:38:001:44:00

    Khaya's Revelation: "I Thought I'd Die at 41"

    1. TN

      He's like, "No, chap, I thought we were done." I was like, "My man, my man."

    2. KD

      [laughs]

    3. TN

      "Ah, bruh. No, brother."

    4. KD

      Wait. [laughs]

    5. TN

      "No, brother."

    6. EU

      Wait, why, why, why is Khaya treating every conversation like it's a Morse code?

    7. KD

      [laughs]

    8. EU

      Do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

    9. KD

      That's how Khaya does it.

    10. EU

      Wait, how do you determine when it's over, Khaya?

    11. KD

      I, I, I just think it's over [laughs] .

    12. EU

      [laughs]

    13. KD

      I, I don't have, I don't have, I don't, I, I don't have, like, a thing, but I just... There's a moment, ah, I think this conversation's over. And it's so funny because it's something I've been told before that I end conversations awkwardly. And then for a while, I was, "Okay, I need to be conscious actually of how I end conversations now," 'cause I know I've got to wait for that, "Okay, by- bye, bye, bye, ba, ba, ba, okay."

    14. EU

      Yes.

    15. KD

      "Okay, bye, bye, bye."

    16. EU

      And you're a tosser, dude, come on.

    17. KD

      And then I'm like, "So for the-"

    18. EU

      On top of all of these things, what tosser, Khaya.

    19. KD

      [laughs] I know.

    20. EU

      We've never said goodbye ever-

    21. KD

      That-

    22. EU

      ... like, one time.

    23. KD

      Yeah, yeah, no, that's true. I, I... And then I, then I-

    24. EU

      We said goodbye to my mom how many times yesterday?

    25. KD

      Yeah. Hey, that's true.

    26. EU

      Six?

    27. KD

      Yeah.

    28. EU

      Seven times?

    29. KD

      Wait, wait, wait, at the house.

    30. EU

      All over.

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