There’s No I In Trevor Noah | What Now? with Trevor Noah Podcast

1. 0:00 – 5:13

   WhatsApp Banter and Episode Setup

   1. TNTrevor Noah0:00

      Social media is, is so multifaceted, right? So sometimes you're using social media to connect with family that are living abroad.

   2. TNTrevor Noah0:06

      Mm-hmm.

   3. TNTrevor Noah0:06

      Sometimes you're living s- you're on social media-

   4. TNTrevor Noah0:08

      Use WhatsApp

   5. TNTrevor Noah0:08

      ... to get your-

   6. TNTrevor Noah0:09

      Use WhatsApp, mate

   7. TNTrevor Noah0:09

      ... to get your news.

   8. TNTrevor Noah0:09

      WhatsApp is the-- I would ban WhatsApp before-

   9. TNTrevor Noah0:11

      Why would you ban WhatsApp?

   10. TNTrevor Noah0:12

       'Cause-

   11. TNTrevor Noah0:13

       Why, WhatsApp, what's WhatsApp got-

   12. TNTrevor Noah0:14

       ... African, African aunties use it-

   13. TNTrevor Noah0:15

       What's this, what's WhatsApp ever done to you?

   14. TNTrevor Noah0:16

       They just use it-

   15. TNTrevor Noah0:17

       Love a bit of WhatsApp

   16. TNTrevor Noah0:18

       ... let me tell you something. During COVID-

   17. TNTrevor Noah0:20

       Nothing sends photos faster

   18. TNTrevor Noah0:22

       ... the misin- now, listen, Ben.

   19. TNTrevor Noah0:23

       Yeah.

   20. TNTrevor Noah0:24

       The misinformation that African aunties spread about COVID during COVID-19 was-

   21. TNTrevor Noah0:29

       It actually is one of the biggest-

   22. TNTrevor Noah0:30

       Uh.

   23. TNTrevor Noah0:30

       It's one of the biggest spreaders of-

   24. TNTrevor Noah0:32

       Guys

   25. TNTrevor Noah0:32

       ... but you know why it became that?

   26. TNTrevor Noah0:33

       They were like, "Gargle with salt and vinegar instead of getting the vaccine," and I'm like, "This is not gonna work."

   27. TNTrevor Noah0:37

       But that's just, you've got a, that's just the wrong family. That's-

   28. TNTrevor Noah0:40

       [laughs]

   29. TNTrevor Noah0:41

       ... that's not my fault.

   30. TNTrevor Noah0:41

       No, it's across the diaspora
2. 5:13 – 8:29

   Where Has Trevor Been? Travels and the CIA

   1. TNTrevor Noah5:13

      and where I am in the world is actually the perfect question to ask for our brand-new segment. It's time for Where in the World?, brought to you by T-Mobile, who can help you experience travel better. They have a whole host of travel perks that you'll love, whether you're on a day trip or your dream trip. Okay. I've debated whether or not I should tell you this.

   2. TNTrevor Noah5:38

      Oh, wow.

   3. TNTrevor Noah5:39

      This is one of those moments in life where I l- I like to be honest with my friends.

   4. CHChristiana5:43

      Okay.

   5. TNTrevor Noah5:43

      [laughs]

   6. TNTrevor Noah5:44

      But I also like to be right.

   7. CHChristiana5:45

      By the way, if a man tells you he likes to be honest, that means he's a liar. But-

   8. TNTrevor Noah5:50

      What? Wait, I can't believe you'd say that.

   9. CHChristiana5:52

      It's just that when men are like, "Oh, I'm really honest," it's because they're liars.

   10. TNTrevor Noah5:54

       No, no, I didn't say I'm really honest. I said I like to be honest. There's a difference.

   11. CHChristiana5:58

       Okay. All right.

   12. TNTrevor Noah5:58

       What's this got to do with where you've been?

   13. TNTrevor Noah6:01

       I've been traveling-

   14. BEBen6:02

       Yeah

   15. TNTrevor Noah6:02

       ... quite a bit.

   16. BEBen6:03

       Yeah.

   17. TNTrevor Noah6:04

       In part of my travels, I had a, a meeting and a conversation with, uh, uh, the, the, the assistant, assistant, uh-

   18. BEBen6:15

       [laughs]

   19. TNTrevor Noah6:15

       ... director of military operations at the CIA. [laughs] So yeah.

   20. CHChristiana6:21

       Interesting.

   21. BEBen6:22

       Is that what you've been doing? You've been having a conversation with the CIA?

   22. TNTrevor Noah6:25

       I think you've truncated everything I've said and made it sound a lot more-

   23. BEBen6:28

       Yeah

   24. TNTrevor Noah6:28

       ... um, clickbaity than, than it is.

   25. BEBen6:31

       What did you meet the CIA about?

   26. TNTrevor Noah6:33

       Again, you've just moved on from, you've now made it the whole organization. I just met an individual. Lovely, lovely gentleman.

   27. CHChristiana6:40

       Okay.

   28. TNTrevor Noah6:41

       And yeah, it was just, I... But I wanted to tell you this g- because if I, if I omitted it, I would always feel like I had kept something from you that sort of made you right.

   29. CHChristiana6:51

       And why did he reach out to you?

   30. BEBen6:52

       Mm.
3. 8:29 – 14:46

   Trevor's Pitch: Shut Down Social Media

   1. TNTrevor Noah8:29

      I think it is time for us to jump into this week's podcast, which is really exciting for me because sometimes I think we limit ourselves in how we think because we think through the lens of what is and what could be. And every now and again, I like to think to myself, "What would I do if I ruled the world?" And that's when I find the magic happens. That's when the true magic happens. So I'm gonna kick it off. Uh, so I've been thinking about it this week. If I ruled the world, I know this is gonna be controversial, but if I ruled the world, I would shut down social media. It's done. It's finished.

   2. BEBen9:00

      Ooh.

   3. CHChristiana9:01

      Oof.

   4. TNTrevor Noah9:01

      There is no more.

   5. BEBen9:02

      Ooh.

   6. CHChristiana9:02

      Oof.

   7. BEBen9:03

      Oof. Considering especially people are probably watching a lot of this on social media-

   8. TNTrevor Noah9:06

      Yeah, it's done

   9. BEBen9:07

      ... it, but it feels like you're being hypocritical 'cause how much stuff you're putting out on social media.

   10. TNTrevor Noah9:10

       I'm not being h- no, I'm not being hypocritical at all.

   11. BEBen9:12

       Okay.

   12. CHChristiana9:12

       All of it?

   13. TNTrevor Noah9:14

       Yeah. Now, let's be clear about what I consider social media.

   14. BEBen9:16

       Be clear. Be clear.

   15. TNTrevor Noah9:17

       So it is, um, Instagram, Facebook, um, Snapchat, uh-

   16. BEBen9:22

       TikTok

   17. TNTrevor Noah9:22

       ... TikTok-

   18. CHChristiana9:23

       Yeah

   19. TNTrevor Noah9:23

       ... uh-

   20. CHChristiana9:23

       X

   21. TNTrevor Noah9:23

       ... Twitter, and are there any others?

   22. CHChristiana9:26

       There's WeChat, which is, like-

   23. TNTrevor Noah9:28

       I don't think that's... No, no.

   24. BEBen9:29

       Truth Social.

   25. TNTrevor Noah9:29

       That's-

   26. BEBen9:29

       I'm big on Truth Social.

   27. TNTrevor Noah9:30

       [laughs]

   28. CHChristiana9:30

       [laughs]

   29. BEBen9:31

       I love, I, I love Truth Social. As the white member of this panel, I'm-

   30. TNTrevor Noah9:35

       [laughs]
4. 14:46 – 17:59

   Trevor's List of Reasons and the Pushback

   1. TNTrevor Noah14:46

      So, yeah-

   2. BEBen14:47

      No, I'm just saying that your reason on the one hand is because we're unhappy, and I can take that.

   3. TNTrevor Noah14:51

      Yes.

   4. BEBen14:51

      And, and then you moved on to the algorithm is damaging, and now you're saying there's crazy people on the corner-

   5. TNTrevor Noah14:56

      Okay, okay, so-

   6. BEBen14:56

      ... we're giving a megaphone to. That's a wide spray of bullets you're going with.

   7. CHChristiana14:59

      Yeah.

   8. TNTrevor Noah14:59

      Ex- because I think it's a wide spray of bullets that's affected us. So let's break them down really quickly.

   9. BEBen15:03

      Uh-huh.

   10. TNTrevor Noah15:03

       So I'll, I'll give them to you as a list.

   11. BEBen15:04

       Sure.

   12. TNTrevor Noah15:04

       The reasons I say we should get rid of it, right? In my world, if I ruled the world. Number one-

   13. BEBen15:09

       Yeah

   14. TNTrevor Noah15:09

       ... misinformation and disinformation spreading at a rate that is far, far, far quicker than any other traditional-

   15. CHChristiana15:15

       Yeah

   16. TNTrevor Noah15:15

       ... media could be. Number two, limiting people's ability to live a life online that is making them more alone, more lonely, and feel artificially connected when in fact they're not.

   17. BEBen15:27

       That's fair.

   18. TNTrevor Noah15:27

       Right? Because it presents, it presents the veneer of connection-

   19. CHChristiana15:31

       Mm-hmm

   20. TNTrevor Noah15:31

       ... that isn't in fact there. Number three, I would go with it's fracturing our collective reality. Now, I'm not saying we have to agree on it or disagree.

   21. CHChristiana15:40

       Yeah.

   22. TNTrevor Noah15:40

       I'm not saying that.

   23. BEBen15:41

       Yeah.

   24. TNTrevor Noah15:41

       I'm just saying we all have to agree that it happened or it didn't happen, and I think social media is fracturing that.

   25. CHChristiana15:49

       Yeah.

   26. TNTrevor Noah15:49

       Social media is breaking it down. I'm not saying my world would be perfect.

   27. CHChristiana15:52

       But Trevor, but Trevor, don't you think that, like-

   28. TNTrevor Noah15:54

       Wait, so neither of you agree with me here?

   29. CHChristiana15:55

       N- well, but my, I think-

   30. TNTrevor Noah15:56

       Wow. You guys are parents, by the way.
5. 17:59 – 23:01

   Ben's Under-16 Ban and the Vote on Trevor's World

   1. TNTrevor Noah17:59

      Why would you ban it for under 16s and not for over 16s if it is such a good thing for the world?

   2. BEBen18:04

      I didn't say it was such a good thing for the world. I said I don't think it needs to be banned.

   3. TNTrevor Noah18:06

      If I remember correctly-

   4. BEBen18:07

      I think it needs to be, I think it needs to be regulated

   5. TNTrevor Noah18:08

      ... if we, if, if we rewind the tape- You will hear Ben Winston say, "I love it. It is the best thing in the world."

   6. BEBen18:13

      I love social-

   7. TNTrevor Noah18:13

      "I wanna dance with dictators."

   8. BEBen18:14

      No. You see, that's the problem with AI. You've made me say that-

   9. TNTrevor Noah18:17

      [laughs]

   10. BEBen18:17

       ... and I never said that.

   11. TNTrevor Noah18:18

       No, but really, why would you, why would you, why would you-

   12. BEBen18:19

       'Cause you're da- 'cause you're having lunch with the CIA.

   13. TNTrevor Noah18:20

       [laughs] Why would you ban it?

   14. BEBen18:22

       I would ban it because I actually think the biggest problem with social media isn't about what you've said. I actually think the biggest problem with it is the insecurity that kids feel and the bullying that can happen on there, and that's what worries me about social media far more than, like, an adult reading a Twitter feed, and they should just know better to believe and research facts that they're getting that are true or false.

   15. TNTrevor Noah18:44

       So if I'm hearing you correctly, you're saying that children are affected by the bullying and the shaping of their reality, but adults are not?

   16. BEBen18:56

       I think adults have a freedom of being able to not feel as pressurized, and if they wanna enter into that world where they're bullied... Like, when people say, and this is gonna, this is gonna be brutal when I say this-

   17. TNTrevor Noah19:05

       Hmm

   18. BEBen19:05

       ... but I'm saying it anyway. Like, you know when people go in the news and they're like, "I've had death threats. I've had death threats. On, on my Twitter, I've had death threats." I'm like, "Well, just don't go on Twitter." [laughs]

   19. TNTrevor Noah19:17

       [laughs]

   20. BEBen19:18

       We're not talking about somebody sending a letter to your house where they've cut up, like, magazine letters and, like, real death threats.

   21. TNTrevor Noah19:23

       I see, I was just-

   22. BEBen19:23

       We're just saying, like, some dickhead-

   23. TNTrevor Noah19:24

       And that-

   24. BEBen19:25

       ... on Twitter who's, like, DM... I'm like, "Just don't go on social media if it's so upsetting for you." But, like, for me, I had... I was on a flight yesterday. I had an hour to kill. I went on TikTok-

   25. TNTrevor Noah19:34

       And you saw death threats

   26. BEBen19:34

       ... I had a lovely time. No, I just had a lovely time.

   27. TNTrevor Noah19:36

       [laughs]

   28. BEBen19:36

       I looked at Arsenal scores. I watched clips. It- the algorithm, what is frightening about it is the algorithm now knows me better than I know me.

   29. CHChristiana19:45

       Yeah.

   30. BEBen19:45

       'Cause, like, it started sending me this show about a porn shop, not, not, like, sexual porn-
6. 23:01 – 28:06

   Christiana's Plan: Abolish Private Schools

   1. CHChristiana23:01

      If I ruled the world, I would abolish private schools-

   2. BEBen23:05

      Wow

   3. CHChristiana23:05

      ... and say that every child goes to s- a school assigned by a blind lottery. So you don't know where in your city or your district where your child would go to school 'cause I believe that would incentivize rich parents to make sure all schools are good 'cause you don't know where your child is gonna end up. And I'd make it mandatory for people in the community to volunteer in the school. You'd have to get, like, a CRB check. We'd have to make sure you're not a pedophile or a weirdo and stuff like that.

   4. TNTrevor Noah23:35

      Hmm.

   5. CHChristiana23:36

      Abolish private schools.

   6. TNTrevor Noah23:38

      Hmm. I-

   7. BEBen23:38

      Now, Trevor, without children, has probably never considered schooling or what it would mean-

   8. TNTrevor Noah23:42

      I'm, I'm sorry

   9. BEBen23:43

      ... for stages

   10. TNTrevor Noah23:44

       ... I spent 20 years of my life in schools-

   11. CHChristiana23:47

       [laughs]

   12. TNTrevor Noah23:47

       ... my friend. I'll have you know that.

   13. BEBen23:48

       Okay.

   14. CHChristiana23:49

       [laughs]

   15. TNTrevor Noah23:50

       [laughs] Fair enough.

   16. CHChristiana23:50

       So it's not a lot about schools, though.

   17. BEBen23:52

       It's not a lot about schools.

   18. TNTrevor Noah23:52

       I spent half of my life-

   19. BEBen23:53

       Okay

   20. TNTrevor Noah23:53

       ... in schools. I'll be honest, my initial instinct is yes. Like, you, you, you know, I, I, I like this idea quite a bit, but, but let me ask you a few questions.

   21. CHChristiana24:03

       Sure.

   22. TNTrevor Noah24:04

       Are you afraid that you'll rob kids- Of community. Because a lot of the time schools represent the communities that they're in. And while they may not be perfect when it comes to the education-

   23. CHChristiana24:17

       Yeah

   24. TNTrevor Noah24:17

       ... that they dole out, but I do think we shouldn't take for granted what it feels like to be in a school that is part of your community-

   25. BEBen24:25

       Yeah

   26. TNTrevor Noah24:25

       ... and what it's like to hang out with kids that speak your languages or-

   27. CHChristiana24:28

       Yeah

   28. TNTrevor Noah24:28

       ... come from your cultures or y- you know, you know what I mean? W- how would, how would you deal with that?

   29. CHChristiana24:31

       My counter is that, like most rich people, like the idea of a neighborhood school is collapsed for rich people. It doesn't exist. Rich people like will drive, in LA, they'll go 45 minutes across town-

   30. TNTrevor Noah24:41

       Literally, literally many places
7. 28:06 – 32:13

   Funding, Zip Codes and Diversity Dilemmas

   1. BEBen28:06

      The knock-on effect for the government funding for schooling if we put your plan into place if you ruled the world, where are you going to get the absolute millions that it takes? Because-

   2. CHChristiana28:15

      Where they get, where they get the money for the bombs.

   3. TNTrevor Noah28:17

      I agree.

   4. CHChristiana28:17

      I'm gonna, like, you see those bombs-

   5. TNTrevor Noah28:18

      I agree with that

   6. CHChristiana28:19

      ... we're gonna buy?

   7. BEBen28:19

      You take the money for the bombs. You take the-

   8. CHChristiana28:19

      The bomb, the bomb money.

   9. BEBen28:20

      You agree with Hart?

   10. CHChristiana28:21

       Yeah.

   11. BEBen28:21

       The bombs or the, or the, or the my point?

   12. TNTrevor Noah28:23

       No, no, no, Christiana's point-

   13. CHChristiana28:24

       They've got the money

   14. TNTrevor Noah28:24

       ... I think she's right here.

   15. CHChristiana28:25

       They've got the money.

   16. TNTrevor Noah28:25

       There's, the, the money's there.

   17. CHChristiana28:26

       They had the money when they wanted us all to take the C- COVID vaccine shot-

   18. TNTrevor Noah28:29

       The money's there

   19. CHChristiana28:29

       ... which I took. I'm not an anti-vaxxer, guys, b- before you get on me.

   20. BEBen28:32

       Oh, God. I thought I was selling out Joe Rogan.

   21. CHChristiana28:33

       The money, the money-

   22. TNTrevor Noah28:35

       [laughs]

   23. CHChristiana28:35

       ... the, but I'm saying, the money is there.

   24. TNTrevor Noah28:37

       You're right, you're right.

   25. CHChristiana28:38

       The money's there.

   26. TNTrevor Noah28:38

       They spent a trillion dollars on the F-35 jet that didn't work. They've got the money.

   27. CHChristiana28:42

       They've got the money.

   28. BEBen28:42

       That is, that is such a ridiculous way of playing politics.

   29. CHChristiana28:45

       No, but they have the money.

   30. BEBen28:45

       You're going, so you're going, let's create a huge problem that we're-
8. 32:13 – 39:16

   Loopholes, Public Pools and the Vote Against Schools

   1. TNTrevor Noah32:13

      ... so, okay. Wait. So wait, wait, wait. So here's, here's something I w- I w- I would want to ask about your, your, your magical world.

   2. CHChristiana32:18

      Yeah.

   3. TNTrevor Noah32:18

      Right? This is you ruling this world. Unfortunately, when you look at history, you will see that time and time again, if you try to do this type of system, people who are rich, people who may be a little bit racist, I'm not even saying racist people, I'm just saying a little bit racist.

   4. CHChristiana32:34

      Yeah.

   5. TNTrevor Noah32:35

      Like, you know? Just like-

   6. CHChristiana32:35

      Racist-lite.

   7. TNTrevor Noah32:36

      Yeah, just sprinkled with racism.

   8. CHChristiana32:37

      Sprinkled racism.

   9. TNTrevor Noah32:38

      Those types of people will find ways to get their kids out of or into something else.

   10. CHChristiana32:44

       Yeah, yeah.

   11. TNTrevor Noah32:44

       Let's look at a recent example.

   12. CHChristiana32:45

       Yeah.

   13. TNTrevor Noah32:45

       COVID. COVID came.

   14. CHChristiana32:47

       Yeah.

   15. TNTrevor Noah32:47

       A lot of parents didn't agree with what was happening, and what did these parents do? They were like, "You know what? We're actually taking our kids out of this little Zoom system you have."

   16. CHChristiana32:55

       Yeah, yeah.

   17. TNTrevor Noah32:55

       "And we're gonna create little pods." I believe you now may create with your system-

   18. CHChristiana33:00

       Yeah

   19. TNTrevor Noah33:00

       ... you may actually create a bootlegger movement of schools-

   20. CHChristiana33:04

       [laughs]

   21. TNTrevor Noah33:05

       ... where parents are gonna be underground with, like, speakeasy schools.

   22. CHChristiana33:08

       Listen, that's happening in this country already with, you know, with you've got this homesteading movement, unschooling movement, homeschool movement. I think-

   23. TNTrevor Noah33:15

       You don't think yours would accelerate it more?

   24. CHChristiana33:16

       Well, I think, I think there's always gonna be, like, the people who say, "I'm gonna pull my kid out, I'm gonna try and get around the system." But most humans, especially parents, are lazy. This is what you underestimate.

   25. TNTrevor Noah33:27

       [laughs]

   26. CHChristiana33:27

       People are very lazy, and no one wants to be with their kid all day.

   27. TNTrevor Noah33:31

       That's true.

   28. CHChristiana33:31

       Oh, my God. No, no, no. If, like, if you're like, okay, you say to the moms and the dads, "You have to be a parent who teaches your kid," they'll, they'd rather kill themselves. So [laughs] they're gonna start it, I'm sure, but some people will be like, "Okay, we're gonna do our pod." Week two they're gonna be like, "Send these bastards back to that integrated lottery school," and they're gonna figure it out. I just think-

   29. TNTrevor Noah33:52

       I, I will, I'll throw this last thing from myself out. Just from history you would think this would be the case, but don't ever forget.

   30. CHChristiana33:59

       Mm-hmm.
9. 39:16 – 45:01

   Ben's Plan: A Mandatory Day of Rest

   1. BEBen39:16

      Well, I thought about a few things on the way in, and they were, you know, flushes on toilets should be on the floor rather than on the wall, like, for hygiene. And then I was thinking about, like, you know-

   2. TNTrevor Noah39:28

      I like this. I've used one of those. They're great

   3. BEBen39:29

      ... much better, like a slow lane for people who are walking slowly. Like, stuff was annoying me, and then I sort of sat here-

   4. TNTrevor Noah39:33

      Japan does that naturally. I love it.

   5. BEBen39:35

      Do you know what I mean?

   6. TNTrevor Noah39:35

      Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

   7. BEBen39:35

      It's like there was stuff, like ... Or, like, the fact that the plug changes depending on where you are in the world, and there should just be one u- you know, straightforward one.

   8. TNTrevor Noah39:43

      Fantastic, fantastic.

   9. BEBen39:43

      And then I realized you two were coming up with really intelligent things-

   10. CHChristiana39:45

       [laughs]

   11. BEBen39:45

       ... and I was like, "Oh, shit, I better think about this."

   12. CHChristiana39:47

       [laughs]

   13. BEBen39:47

       So I was quite glad I came last. Um-

   14. CHChristiana39:49

       [laughs]

   15. TNTrevor Noah39:51

       [laughs]

   16. BEBen39:51

       It's given me a good 40 minutes to work out-

   17. CHChristiana39:53

       [laughs]

   18. TNTrevor Noah39:54

       [laughs]

   19. BEBen39:54

       ... what I was gonna do. Um, I'm gonna go for something that has, I think, been a positive effect in many people's lives, which came from religion, but for me it isn't religious. And I think that we should make the seventh day, and not for religious reasons, because we're worried about God or whatever else. I think the seventh day should be a day of rest, where we go extreme. No electricity, no phones, no driving. Where for one day, for 24 hours, we switch off. We exist with our family and friends. We eat together. We drink together. We don't go down to the shops and get the stuff. We had to prepare for it in advance. We don't work. We exist with whatever we've got. We go for walks. We enjoy each other's company. We switch off from everything else in the world. And I think that actually it comes from something that came in my childhood. I grew up Orthodox Jewish, right? So my family, they wouldn't use cars on Saturday. We wouldn't use phones. We wouldn't work. And my dad is quite a well-known d- sort of inf- infertility specialist. He would be working from 7:00 AM till 11:00 PM six days a week. But from a Friday night to a Saturday night, as a religious family, we were just with each other. The time we would spend together, the joy that that would bring us, the switch off that we knew for 24 hours I just had my dad and, like, nothing else mattered, uh, and we would all be together and exist together, I think is such a beautiful thing to have, and to almost, like, reset. Because whatever job you do, whether you work down the store, whether you host a podcast, whether you're a doctor, a nurse, whether you do something silly like make TV shows like I do, it's always the most important thing in the world. And if for one day you just turn off and just breathe for a minute, I actually think that could be great for society, and family values, and everything.

   20. TNTrevor Noah41:51

       Okay. This is, this is very beautiful. I'm gonna, I'm gonna start by asking some questions just to-

   21. BEBen41:56

       Sure

   22. TNTrevor Noah41:56

       ... sort of to clarify-

   23. BEBen41:57

       Yeah

   24. TNTrevor Noah41:57

       ... to understand.

   25. BEBen41:58

       Yeah.

   26. TNTrevor Noah41:59

       Is everyone resting on the same day?

   27. BEBen42:01

       Correct. Everybody does the same day, because otherwise, uh, uh, because we need other people. So what we would have to do on this day is we would go, "Right, w-" All day Saturday or Sunday or Friday, doesn't matter, we can choose. I'm, I'm open to whatever my cabinet feels about it when we discuss it in government.

   28. TNTrevor Noah42:15

       [laughs]

   29. BEBen42:15

       But the one day that we choose, everything stops.

   30. TNTrevor Noah42:19

       Okay. Wow.
10. 45:01 – 52:38

    Enforcement Questions and Trevor's Objections

    1. TNTrevor Noah45:01

       So maybe, maybe let's start at the top then, 'cause you are ruling this world.

    2. BEBen45:05

       Okay.

    3. TNTrevor Noah45:05

       What happens to people who don't rest?

    4. BEBen45:08

       Oof.

    5. TNTrevor Noah45:08

       Do you arrest them? Da-dum-tss.

    6. BEBen45:11

       I'll be here all week, folks. Dip, dippy, dip, dippy, dip.

    7. CHChristiana45:13

       [laughs]

    8. TNTrevor Noah45:14

       Tre- Tre- Trevor Noah with the jokes. Beep, beep, beep, beep.

    9. BEBen45:16

       Well-

    10. TNTrevor Noah45:16

        What do you do to them?

    11. BEBen45:17

        Well, what, what happens to somebody who drops somebody a l- line on your internet that has no social media? I mean, like, are we talking about discipline-

    12. TNTrevor Noah45:23

        No, but they can't

    13. BEBen45:24

        ... and punishment now?

    14. TNTrevor Noah45:24

        No, they can't. Yeah, no, I'm, and I'm being serious.

    15. BEBen45:26

        Oh, Mr.-

    16. TNTrevor Noah45:26

        I'm asking, I'm asking what do you do? 'Cause no one can use my social media-

    17. BEBen45:29

        Well, well-

    18. TNTrevor Noah45:29

        ... 'cause it's banned.

    19. BEBen45:30

        Okay.

    20. TNTrevor Noah45:30

        So I'm saying, what do you do to people who don't rest?

    21. BEBen45:32

        Well, roads are shut, so they can't drive, right? They're not allowed to drive.

    22. TNTrevor Noah45:35

        Who, who shut the roads?

    23. BEBen45:36

        The po- the police.

    24. TNTrevor Noah45:37

        So they shut them the night before?

    25. CHChristiana45:38

        [laughs]

    26. TNTrevor Noah45:39

        But now what are-

    27. BEBen45:39

        No, no, you can't, you just can't drive that, the roads are-

    28. TNTrevor Noah45:41

        But how do you, how do you can't drive? What are you... I'm telling you-

    29. BEBen45:43

        You can't drive. Oh, you can drive actually for emergencies.

    30. TNTrevor Noah45:45

        So this is what I'm saying. So I'm t- I'm talking about the, like, the pandemic is a perf... You know what I love about the pandemic? It was one of the most powerful natural experiments that humans will probably never be able to conduct ever again.
11. 52:38 – 57:48

    Amendments, Generators and the Final Vote

    1. TNTrevor Noah52:38

       I, I, I'm not saying-

    2. BEBen52:38

       Is that what I'm hearing?

    3. TNTrevor Noah52:39

       I'm ... Forget I.

    4. BEBen52:40

       Okay.

    5. TNTrevor Noah52:40

       There's no I in this.

    6. BEBen52:41

       Okay. Well-

    7. TNTrevor Noah52:43

       What we're looking at-

    8. BEBen52:43

       [laughs] It does have your name on the mug

    9. TNTrevor Noah52:45

       ... but it doesn't have I.

    10. BEBen52:46

        No. And it says with.

    11. TNTrevor Noah52:47

        What we're, what we're looking at is with each other.

    12. BEBen52:49

        Sure.

    13. TNTrevor Noah52:49

        We're looking at-

    14. BEBen52:50

        Yeah

    15. TNTrevor Noah52:50

        ... what happens when your world-

    16. BEBen52:53

        Mm

    17. TNTrevor Noah52:53

        ... suits some more than others.

    18. BEBen52:56

        Yeah.

    19. TNTrevor Noah52:56

        What happens then?

    20. BEBen52:57

        Well, that is life, isn't it? S-

    21. TNTrevor Noah52:58

        And who decides then-

    22. BEBen53:00

        Well, it's I Ruled the World. That's the name of the game.

    23. TNTrevor Noah53:02

        [laughs]

    24. BEBen53:02

        So when you say who decides, if you're gonna do a podcast, and you're gonna invite me here as the 15th choice guest, and you're gonna say, "If you ruled the world, what would you do?" And then when I give you a very, very well thought out plan that's much better than banning social media or scrapping schooling systems as we know it-

    25. TNTrevor Noah53:23

        [laughs]

    26. CHChristiana53:23

        Not too much now, Ben. Not too much

    27. BEBen53:24

        ... and then you go, and then you go, and then you go, "Who's gonna be in charge?" I'm gonna say, "Well, you just told me I am because you created a stupid game called If You Ruled the World."

    28. TNTrevor Noah53:34

        Well, I'm gonna put my vote in.

    29. BEBen53:36

        [laughs]

    30. TNTrevor Noah53:37

        And I'm gonna say if I was voting-

Episode duration: 57:48