Cybertruck Ending Production Next Year!

1. 0:00 – 0:45

   Intro

   1. SPSpeaker0:00

      Where's all the humanoid-shaped robot lovers now?

   2. AMAndrew Manganelli0:02

      I'd be more scared of a humanoid robot.

   3. SPSpeaker0:04

      Humanoid robot.

   4. AMAndrew Manganelli0:04

      If I broke into a house-

   5. SPSpeaker0:05

      If I saw a robot. Exactly. If I'm breaking into a house and I see a humanoid robot turn around [laughs] looking at me, I'm like, "You know what?"

   6. AMAndrew Manganelli0:11

      Get the hell out of there.

   7. SPSpeaker0:12

      "I'm leaving, man."

   8. AMAndrew Manganelli0:12

      Just pops up behind me.

   9. SPSpeaker0:13

      You got this one, bro. [upbeat music] Yo, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques.

   10. AMAndrew Manganelli0:24

       I'm Andrew.

   11. SPSpeaker0:24

       I'm David. Over at the producer table, Ellis is back, Adam is back. Were they ever not here? I don't know. Nope. But they're back. They're back. So it's good to see them. [laughs] We exist in all realms. And, uh, we got a good one for you this week. So, uh, we're gonna talk about the Cybertruck announcing that it's ending production next year, Adobe Max, and a closer look at Google Smart Glasses. Uh, but I do wanna ask.

   12. AMAndrew Manganelli0:44

       Mm-hmm.

2. 0:45 – 4:38

   Did they even test this?

   1. SPSpeaker0:45

      Has anybody thought of a, did they even test this for this week?

   2. AMAndrew Manganelli0:48

      I have one.

   3. SPSpeaker0:49

      Okay.

   4. AMAndrew Manganelli0:49

      If that's okay.

   5. SPSpeaker0:49

      That's great, yeah. You guys always have ... I, I feel like I ... It's been a while since I had one because- Yeah ... I don't know. The things that I use are heavily tested.

   6. AMAndrew Manganelli0:55

      Things just always work for you.

   7. SPSpeaker0:56

      Well, they're heavily tested before they're put in my hands, I think.

   8. AMAndrew Manganelli0:59

      [laughs] I would ... No.

   9. SPSpeaker1:00

      Yeah.

   10. AMAndrew Manganelli1:00

       I would argue it's just you need a note. Everyone needs a Google Notes for this because they happen, and if you don't write it down immediately-

   11. SPSpeaker1:06

       Mm

   12. AMAndrew Manganelli1:06

       ... you forget, 'cause so much, so much happens in your day where things-

   13. SPSpeaker1:09

       Yeah

   14. AMAndrew Manganelli1:09

       ... go right and wrong that it's very easy to go over that. That's why I really-

   15. SPSpeaker1:12

       Totally

   16. AMAndrew Manganelli1:13

       ... started this segment.

   17. SPSpeaker1:14

       Yeah.

   18. AMAndrew Manganelli1:14

       This is one that's been bugging me for a long time, and then I just crashed out about it at my desk.

   19. SPSpeaker1:18

       Bugging. Crashed out. Holy.

   20. AMAndrew Manganelli1:20

       Um.

   21. SPSpeaker1:21

       Holy puns. Wow.

   22. AMAndrew Manganelli1:22

       Like, I think at the desk when we were doing the MacBook Pro script the other day.

   23. SPSpeaker1:26

       Mm-hmm.

   24. AMAndrew Manganelli1:27

       Um, so I'm gonna paint you guys a picture.

   25. SPSpeaker1:28

       Yeah. What are you gonna use to do it?

   26. AMAndrew Manganelli1:31

       Um, words.

   27. SPSpeaker1:33

       Lyr- Whoa, whoa ... lyrical genius here.

   28. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35

       [laughs] Okay. You have two Google accounts.

   29. SPSpeaker1:39

       Mm-hmm.

   30. AMAndrew Manganelli1:39

       Let's say one of them is your Gmail, one of them is your @MKBHD.
3. 4:38 – 12:34

   Browser Wars Update

   1. SPSpeaker4:38

      the browser wars for 15 seconds? Sure, yeah.

   2. AMAndrew Manganelli4:40

      Yeah.

   3. SPSpeaker4:40

      Knew it. It's not even the bro- it's not even the browser wars, but a couple months ago, I remember we had this thing where there were ... It seemed like there were browser wars, right? 'Cause, uh, Chrome added their AI sidebar, and Bing had an AI si- Like, sorry. OpenAI made a- A explo- Yeah, all these browsers. Like, OpenAI made a browser, ChatGPT Atlas. Yeah. Like, oh. And then they stopped making it. One of the biggest, most talked about, rapidly growing companies made a browser, so they, they think that there's, like, land to grab here. Right. And so Chrome, obviously Edge, and then there's Safari, and then all the others, and then there were things like Arc happening. Yeah. So it felt, like, vibrant and interesting that there's a bunch of different browsers. For sure. Now fast-forward to now. Yeah. The landscape is- Yeah ... Arc just di- So yeah, Arc just died. Died. They just, like, stopped really supporting it. Yeah, they sunset it. Yeah. They sunset it, right? Yeah. So there were all these enthusiasts who were trying a bunch of different browsers who landed on Arc because it felt like the best one- Yeah ... who are now free agents- Yeah ... who are, like, going around to see, what's the closest thing to Arc? What we're all learning is Arc was really, really, really good and loved for a reason. Yeah. And now that it's gone, everyone is trying to make Arc again.

   4. AMAndrew Manganelli5:48

      Yes.

   5. SPSpeaker5:48

      So I've gotten ... I, I don't know if you've been on, like, Threads or Twitter or whatever- Yes ... where I, I keep seeing, like, every couple hours, a new browser to try because they've adopted 85% of Arc. Yeah. And then the last 15% will drive me crazy, and I'll move to another one. Yeah. So, like, I was on Dia for a bit, which is- A bunch of Arc-

   6. DIDavid Imel6:07

      Yeah

   7. SPSpeaker6:07

      ... but not all of it.

   8. DIDavid Imel6:08

      Yeah.

   9. SPSpeaker6:08

      It's kind of slow, too. And then, uh, yeah, there's like ... You know, Zen seemed to be the one for a while that-

   10. DIDavid Imel6:13

       Yes

   11. SPSpeaker6:13

       ... a lot of people tried.

   12. DIDavid Imel6:14

       Firefox based.

   13. SPSpeaker6:15

       Exactly, Gecko. So now I'm like, there's this one called Ardia-

   14. DIDavid Imel6:19

       Yeah, Ardia

   15. SPSpeaker6:19

       ... which is cleverly named.

   16. DIDavid Imel6:21

       Yeah.

   17. SPSpeaker6:21

       It's literally just called Arc and Dia.

   18. DIDavid Imel6:22

       Yeah. [laughs]

   19. SPSpeaker6:23

       Uh, it's much faster. It lets you switch, uh, engines between WebKit and Chromium-

   20. DIDavid Imel6:29

       Whoa.

   21. AMAndrew Manganelli6:29

       Hmm

   22. SPSpeaker6:29

       ... which I think is pretty cool.

   23. DIDavid Imel6:30

       Whoa.

   24. SPSpeaker6:31

       So I'm on Chromium most of the time, but certain websites I can decide to open in WebKit.

   25. DIDavid Imel6:34

       Really?

   26. SPSpeaker6:34

       Yeah, it's interesting.

   27. DIDavid Imel6:35

       That's very interesting.

   28. SPSpeaker6:36

       Right? So, like, but it's missing 10% of Arc, so like-

   29. DIDavid Imel6:39

       Yeah

   30. SPSpeaker6:39

       ... then another browser will pop up, and it'll be some other random weird name.
4. 12:34 – 14:24

   Did they even test this pt. 2

   1. AMAndrew Manganelli12:34

      [laughs]

   2. SPSpeaker12:34

      Like, when you look at this versus a Fold 8 and having like all that extra real estate from... Like, it just, uh-

   3. AMAndrew Manganelli12:39

      It drives me crazy

   4. SPSpeaker12:40

      ... it drives me crazy. Um, okay, wait.

   5. DIDavid Imel12:43

      Believe it or not-

   6. SPSpeaker12:43

      But before

   7. DIDavid Imel12:44

      Oh, okay

   8. SPSpeaker12:44

      ... before, really quick.

   9. DIDavid Imel12:45

      Okay.

   10. SPSpeaker12:46

       Sorry. I have to do one more did they even test this really fast. Instagram, I'm done.

   11. DIDavid Imel12:50

       [laughs]

   12. AMAndrew Manganelli12:51

       [laughs]

   13. SPSpeaker12:51

       On the iPhone, on the freaking-

   14. DIDavid Imel12:53

       The answer is no.

   15. AMAndrew Manganelli12:53

       The end

   16. SPSpeaker12:53

       ... on the iPhone Duo, they made a huge deal about how they optim- meta optimized all its apps for the iPhone Duo. They optimized the inner display for Instagram, nothing else.

   17. AMAndrew Manganelli13:03

       Yeah.

   18. SPSpeaker13:03

       The exterior display, still, when I'm like DM'ing people, all of the extra, like, controls-

   19. DIDavid Imel13:09

       Just like overlapping

   20. SPSpeaker13:10

       ... are floating over the send button-

   21. DIDavid Imel13:11

       Yeah

   22. SPSpeaker13:11

       ... are floating over the messages. Like, you can't use the app on the exterior display half the time.

   23. AMAndrew Manganelli13:16

       Yeah, 'cause you wanna watch long-form videos on the inside now.

   24. SPSpeaker13:18

       Ai yai yai, yai yai.

   25. AMAndrew Manganelli13:20

       [laughs]

   26. SPSpeaker13:20

       I'm only-

   27. DIDavid Imel13:20

       It's meta

   28. SPSpeaker13:20

       ... slightly salty. Like, I do have, obviously, there's like clips of me talking about the app optimization situation on the Duo, and people going like, "Wow, Marques, you're being way too hard. This is an app developer thing. They'll fix it in no time." And then a bunch of apps got updated for Duo, and they're like, "See, Marques, don't you feel dumb now for talking about it?"

   29. DIDavid Imel13:36

       It's like they-

   30. SPSpeaker13:36

       No
5. 14:24 – 23:30

   Goodbye Cybertruck

   1. AMAndrew Manganelli14:24

      Oh.

   2. SPSpeaker14:24

      Oh.

   3. AMAndrew Manganelli14:26

      No one would've guessed it, the Cybertruck. [laughs]

   4. SPSpeaker14:29

      Whoa.

   5. SPSpeaker14:30

      [laughs]

   6. AMAndrew Manganelli14:30

      We, last week we got a tweet from Elon that said, "Tesla will be winding down production of the Cybertruck at Gigafactory Texas around the middle of next year to make room for increased Cybercab production." Um, I mean, we've seen-

   7. SPSpeaker14:41

      Mm

   8. AMAndrew Manganelli14:41

      ... quite a few things get cut off from Tesla recently. S and X both-

   9. SPSpeaker14:44

      Yeah

   10. AMAndrew Manganelli14:45

       ... got deleted.

   11. SPSpeaker14:46

       And that was to make room for the robot, right?

   12. DIDavid Imel14:47

       For the Optimus.

   13. SPSpeaker14:48

       For the Optimus robots.

   14. DIDavid Imel14:49

       That was the reason it was given.

   15. AMAndrew Manganelli14:49

       Was that a... Okay. After-

   16. SPSpeaker14:50

       That was the reason it was given.

   17. DIDavid Imel14:51

       That was also on Elon's SOC-

   18. AMAndrew Manganelli14:52

       Well, 'cause they're gonna make a billion of those, right?

   19. DIDavid Imel14:55

       Of course.

   20. AMAndrew Manganelli14:55

       Okay.

   21. SPSpeaker14:55

       And you need room.

   22. DIDavid Imel14:56

       Yeah.

   23. AMAndrew Manganelli14:56

       Yeah.

   24. SPSpeaker14:56

       I mean, it seems like the company's pivoting to just everything is autonomous that they make now-

   25. AMAndrew Manganelli15:00

       Mm-hmm

   26. SPSpeaker15:00

       ... at this point.

   27. DIDavid Imel15:01

       Sure.

   28. SPSpeaker15:02

       I mean, they make-

   29. AMAndrew Manganelli15:02

       Yeah

   30. SPSpeaker15:02

       ... the, they make the 3 and the Y because they are high-volume, uh-
6. 23:30 – 41:13

   Ring Robitics

   1. DIDavid Imel23:30

      I didn't get trivia.

   2. AMAndrew Manganelli23:30

      Woof.

   3. SPSpeaker23:31

      Speaking of that, Ring Ring mother [beep] .

   4. AMAndrew Manganelli23:33

      [laughs]

   5. DIDavid Imel23:35

      Great segue in history.

   6. SPSpeaker23:36

      That was the planned segue? [laughs]

   7. AMAndrew Manganelli23:38

      We took a break for that?

   8. SPSpeaker23:39

      I guess I can't say that.

   9. AMAndrew Manganelli23:40

      No, I love that. Yeah, you-

   10. SPSpeaker23:41

       Am I allowed to?

   11. AMAndrew Manganelli23:41

       ... it's just gonna get bleeped.

   12. DIDavid Imel23:42

       Yeah.

   13. SPSpeaker23:42

       All right.

   14. AMAndrew Manganelli23:43

       I love it.

   15. SPSpeaker23:44

       Ring Ring drone robot.

   16. DIDavid Imel23:46

       [laughs]

   17. SPSpeaker23:47

       I was gonna say-

   18. AMAndrew Manganelli23:48

       I ... Okay

   19. SPSpeaker23:48

       ... I'm not gonna say it.

   20. AMAndrew Manganelli23:49

       I wanna cover this really fast because-

   21. SPSpeaker23:51

       Yeah

   22. AMAndrew Manganelli23:51

       ... Amazon just announced it, but I have ... There's a reason I want to cover it.

   23. SPSpeaker23:54

       Okay.

   24. AMAndrew Manganelli23:54

       Um, they announced their Ring Robitics, which are, you know, robots associated with the Ring brand inside of Amazon, which are, like, home security, home smart, uh, whatever-

   25. SPSpeaker24:04

       Surveillance

   26. AMAndrew Manganelli24:04

       ... surveillance. [laughs] Um, it's a new category of autonomous mobile security devices that patrol, investigate, and respond automatically. One of these products is the Ring Drone, which we talked about years ago. Um, now- You can't pre-order it, but it can, you can get notified for its availability. It's $250, and it's this small little drone that docks in your house, can have custom flight paths, and fly around your house to s-

   27. DIDavid Imel24:28

       Surveil

   28. AMAndrew Manganelli24:28

       ... make sure no intruders are there, or check if you left a stove on, or see if there's any issues when you're away.

   29. DIDavid Imel24:35

       Mm-hmm.

   30. AMAndrew Manganelli24:36

       But the thing I wanna talk about is the Ring Rover Cam, because we had not heard about this before. It's a, a purpose-built security robot for businesses that patrols autonomusly-
7. 41:13 – 42:16

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8. 42:16 – 43:09

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9. 43:09 – 44:12

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10. 44:12 – 1:11:10

    Google Gemini Glasses

    1. DIDavid Imel44:12

       .how/waveform. Welcome back, my friends. This week, um, and this is actually good timing, 'cause I believe the news about this drops tomorrow, AKA yesterday, for when y'all-

    2. SPSpeaker44:22

       [laughs]

    3. DIDavid Imel44:23

       ... all are listening to this.

    4. SPSpeaker44:24

       Okay.

    5. DIDavid Imel44:24

       Google finally, on God, for real this time, revealed its intelligent eyewear designs.

    6. SPSpeaker44:30

       The glasses.

    7. AMAndrew Manganelli44:31

       You're wearing them right now.

    8. DIDavid Imel44:32

       [laughs]

    9. SPSpeaker44:32

       If this gets delayed and it doesn't come out tomorrow/yesterday-

    10. AMAndrew Manganelli44:36

        It's gonna-

    11. SPSpeaker44:36

        ... I'm gonna blame you.

    12. DIDavid Imel44:37

        There is something on the next episode that we do that I'm sh- talking about that I really hope does not get delayed.

    13. SPSpeaker44:43

        [laughs] Okay.

    14. DIDavid Imel44:45

        Because they gave me a date, and they said, "We hope it doesn't get delayed," and I said, "I hope that for you, too."

    15. AMAndrew Manganelli44:49

        [laughs]

    16. DIDavid Imel44:50

        So, um-

    17. SPSpeaker44:51

        So this was Google making glasses with, like, Warby Parker and Gentle Monster-

    18. DIDavid Imel44:56

        Yeah, yeah

    19. SPSpeaker44:56

        ... and having the smarts in them.

    20. DIDavid Imel44:58

        Correct.

    21. SPSpeaker44:58

        Finally.

    22. DIDavid Imel44:59

        So Google calls this intelligent eyewear. Um, they clearly do not wanna use the Google Glass branding again, even though I think they should.

    23. SPSpeaker45:05

        I think they should.

    24. DIDavid Imel45:05

        I think they should.

    25. SPSpeaker45:06

        Hmm.

    26. DIDavid Imel45:07

        Like, Google Glass was not... It's not a negative connotation.

    27. AMAndrew Manganelli45:10

        Why don't you just be Google Glasses?

    28. DIDavid Imel45:12

        Yeah, they should just do that.

    29. AMAndrew Manganelli45:12

        That is the new version. It's great.

    30. DIDavid Imel45:15

        I think that the reason is because they're gonna be sold by all of these third parties-
11. 1:11:10 – 1:13:40

    Pixel Drop

    1. SPSpeaker1:11:10

       a heads-up. Just a heads-up. We live in surveillance state. Um, okay, one last Google thing. There is a November Pixel Drop that just came out, uh, yesterday, on Tuesday, uh, but three days ago by the time you're listening to this. The Pixel Drop for some reason includes the fact that the Pixel Tag is available, um, which is not a software thing- [laughs] ... but it is [laughs] available. Uh, Gemini Intelligence is now coming to Pixel 10, and includes things like Rambler and Automations. Nice. It also includes Create My Widget, new icon, new custom icon styles. Highlight- [gasps]

    2. AMAndrew Manganelli1:11:44

       Mm-hmm

    3. SPSpeaker1:11:44

       ... is now available- Uh-huh ... in Google Messages- [clapping] ... and glows when you receive a text from- [clapping] ... one of your favorite contacts. You did it, Google.

    4. AMAndrew Manganelli1:11:56

       Mm.

    5. SPSpeaker1:11:56

       Almost. You made Highlight slightly more useful. Yeah, for one app.

    6. AMAndrew Manganelli1:12:02

       The babiest of steps.

    7. SPSpeaker1:12:02

       For one single app. For the texting app, and it has, it still has to be your, your favorite contact. Still has to be a favorite.

    8. AMAndrew Manganelli1:12:08

       Yeah. I still wish it was app independent. I wish I had notif-

    9. SPSpeaker1:12:13

       Yeah, every-

    10. AMAndrew Manganelli1:12:14

        Never mind.

    11. SPSpeaker1:12:14

        Yeah. Things that we had with-

    12. AMAndrew Manganelli1:12:15

        Colors based on apps

    13. SPSpeaker1:12:16

        ... the Nexus 6. I forgot I had that feature. I don't even use it.

    14. AMAndrew Manganelli1:12:19

        [laughs]

    15. SPSpeaker1:12:19

        Nexus 1. Nexus 1. Yeah, true. Damn. I don't know. I mean, yeah, there's, there's apps. The original Droid. There's apps you can sideload now. Well, that's that. I think that we should have another, um, Chinese spy question. [upbeat music]

    16. AMAndrew Manganelli1:12:34

        [laughs]

    17. SPSpeaker1:12:35

        All right. We now associate Nvidia with inventing the modern GPU, but- I need a point so bad ... what electronics giant was making what they called a GPU one year before Nvidia's first chip, the NV1? But-

    18. AMAndrew Manganelli1:12:51

        When you say they called a GPU-

    19. SPSpeaker1:12:53

        The company that invented it.

    20. AMAndrew Manganelli1:12:54

        No, but, like, they, this could just be something a company calls a GPU, or you mean, like, what we know as a-

    21. SPSpeaker1:12:59

        They called it a GPU, which stands for Graphics Processing Unit. Oh, yeah.

    22. AMAndrew Manganelli1:13:02

        Oh.

    23. SPSpeaker1:13:02

        I was gonna say, like- It's not like a frame generator

    24. AMAndrew Manganelli1:13:03

        ... it would be so funny if it was just a-

    25. SPSpeaker1:13:04

        This is a GPU

    26. AMAndrew Manganelli1:13:05

        ... totally different acronym.

    27. SPSpeaker1:13:06

        Yeah, it's like a bidet. Mm. [laughs]

    28. AMAndrew Manganelli1:13:08

        [laughs]

    29. SPSpeaker1:13:09

        Our GPU. A company made a GPU before Nvidia. Interesting. I have an idea. Which company?

    30. AMAndrew Manganelli1:13:14

        There's two acceptable answers.
12. 1:13:40 – 1:14:16

    Verizon (Sponsored)

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13. 1:14:16 – 1:15:16

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15. 1:16:22 – 1:35:23

    Adobe Max

    1. SPSpeaker1:16:22

       and you can be up and running in minutes.

    2. DIDavid Imel1:16:24

       Welcome back. Uh, we also gotta talk about Adobe Max. We talk about this every year. This is their big conference in which they unveil, uh, a lot of things.

    3. SPSpeaker1:16:33

       Mm-hmm.

    4. DIDavid Imel1:16:33

       You know, the last few years have been very, very gen AI-focused, which, um, felt very conflicting with what Adobe has always been about.

    5. SPSpeaker1:16:41

       What their users probably wanted.

    6. DIDavid Imel1:16:42

       What their users wanted.

    7. SPSpeaker1:16:44

       Mm-hmm.

    8. DIDavid Imel1:16:44

       Uh, the last few years, people have been pretty mad at them.

    9. SPSpeaker1:16:47

       Mm-hmm.

    10. DIDavid Imel1:16:48

        This year, the vibe-

    11. SPSpeaker1:16:50

        Redemption arc?

    12. DIDavid Imel1:16:50

        Uh, half r- there was, it was half redemption arc. So I, I went-

    13. SPSpeaker1:16:54

        That's not, isn't, isn't that just, like, being the same?

    14. DIDavid Imel1:16:57

        [laughs]

    15. SPSpeaker1:16:58

        Like, if I have half a redemption arc, I'm still evil.

    16. DIDavid Imel1:17:00

        [laughs]

    17. SPSpeaker1:17:00

        That's true. The first half of the redemption arc- Yeah ... is not the good part.

    18. DIDavid Imel1:17:04

        Well-

    19. SPSpeaker1:17:04

        You just kind of stay evil. Yeah. [laughs]

    20. DIDavid Imel1:17:06

        I don't know. I, I went this year because I wanted-

    21. SPSpeaker1:17:10

        The first half is the one that takes you to the bottom. [laughs] Oh, the arc.

    22. DIDavid Imel1:17:13

        Yeah.

    23. SPSpeaker1:17:14

        Maybe two, two-thirds of a redemption arc is interesting.

    24. DIDavid Imel1:17:17

        But the redem- the redemption arc is the second part of the arc, right?

    25. SPSpeaker1:17:19

        The second part of the arc, right. Okay, so when you refer to the redemption arc, you're only referring to the second half of the redemption arc.

    26. DIDavid Imel1:17:25

        Is it still an arc if it's only half an ar- arc?

    27. SPSpeaker1:17:27

        I, I guess technically the arc is still a thing. Or is that just a... Yeah, an arc can be any-

    28. DIDavid Imel1:17:32

        Oh, you're right

    29. SPSpeaker1:17:33

        ... amount of radius-

    30. DIDavid Imel1:17:34

        You're right
16. 1:35:23 – 1:39:11

    Trivia

    1. SPSpeaker1:35:23

       Yeah, or something like that

    2. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:23

       ... that was when, like, the first AI image generator came out-

    3. SPSpeaker1:35:26

       Yeah

    4. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:26

       ... and it was horrible.

    5. SPSpeaker1:35:27

       That was Adobe Max. You know what it's time for?

    6. SPSpeaker1:35:29

       This is Trivia Max.

    7. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:31

       Trivia maxing.

    8. SPSpeaker1:35:31

       I'm points maxing today. All right?

    9. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:33

       Well, I, I already got the first one, so technically you're not maxing it.

    10. SPSpeaker1:35:36

        You know what?

    11. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:36

        [laughs]

    12. SPSpeaker1:35:38

        It was a mentality.

    13. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:40

        What decade was the first one, right?

    14. SPSpeaker1:35:42

        Yeah, Andrew?

    15. SPSpeaker1:35:43

        What decade was-

    16. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:45

        Decade

    17. SPSpeaker1:35:45

        ... AMD founded?

    18. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:47

        Founded

    19. SPSpeaker1:35:47

        ... founded? Huh, AMD. Advanced Micro Devices?

    20. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:54

        Yeah.

    21. SPSpeaker1:35:57

        17.

    22. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:57

        [laughs]

    23. AMAndrew Manganelli1:35:59

        [laughs] 38.

    24. SPSpeaker1:36:00

        [laughs] Exactly. A- AMD powered the covered wagons that brought people out west.

    25. AMAndrew Manganelli1:36:08

        Yeah. [laughs]

    26. AMAndrew Manganelli1:36:09

        Is this, uh, closest without going over or a delta?

    27. SPSpeaker1:36:13

        I was just gonna give it to everyone who got the question right. There's one decade-

    28. AMAndrew Manganelli1:36:17

        So potentially nobody gets points

    29. SPSpeaker1:36:18

        ... uh-

    30. AMAndrew Manganelli1:36:20

        Yeah. Old school trivia.

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