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This week, Marques, Andrew, and David talk about the newest Spiderman x BMW collab that has everyone angry before debating whether the EU should make Apple share some features with Windows computers.

Marques BrownleehostAndrew Manganellihost
Aug 7, 20262h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Transcript

  1. 0:00 – 1:02

    Intro

    1. MB

      That's weird.

    2. SP

      [laughs]

    3. MB

      All right, well-

    4. SP

      [laughs] This is the weirdest thing I've ever seen

    5. MB

      ... I'm not a lawyer.

    6. SP

      I'm-

    7. MB

      I would not recommend doing this. [laughs]

    8. SP

      [laughs] I- This isn't legal advice, but, like- This is not legal advice. [laughs] ... I wouldn't do this.

    9. MB

      I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I personally would not do this. [laughs]

    10. SP

      [laughs] New soundbite just dropped. This is so ... [upbeat music]

    11. MB

      Yo, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques.

    12. SP

      I'm Andrew. And I'm David.

    13. MB

      This week, it's ... It feels like the calm before the storm of smartphone season. We have a bunch of different various topics that aren't too gigantic, but that's because we know it's around the corner. It's about to be mid-August and then September. So what do we got? Let's see. A couple different health trackers, including thoughts on Garmin Cirqa. Uh, ads in BMWs. That's fun. A new Ford EV truck. That's hopefully more fun. Uh, EU making Apple add more cross-platform features. We can talk about that, and a few other quick hits. But first...

  2. 1:02 – 11:37

    Did they even test this?

    1. SP

      Did they even test this?

    2. MB

      I have one for YouTube. Um-

    3. SP

      Oh.

    4. MB

      So we all know that on YouTube, you can send each other videos, right?

    5. SP

      Correct.

    6. MB

      They recently implemented this very weird feature-

    7. SP

      Oh, yeah

    8. MB

      ... where if you s- if you use the share sheet and you send it to a friend, whether it's through Slack, through text, whatever, and they click that link, it is now a special tracking link that knows that the friend sent it to you.

    9. SP

      Mm-hmm.

    10. MB

      So then, when you open the link, now you'll have the video, but below the video, instead of just seeing the comments or the description of the video, you'll see a little reply function, which has you reply directly to the person who sent it to you.

    11. SP

      Yeah.

    12. MB

      Which is really, really dumb. Um-

    13. SP

      This whole thing-

    14. MB

      In general

    15. SP

      ... did we talk about... Sorry to interrupt. This- Did we talk about this on the podcast? 'Cause the other day, I sent a video in Slack, and it, like, opened a DM with both of you guys-

    16. MB

      Yes.

    17. SP

      'Cause you- Yeah ... opened it through Slack. But I thought both of you were DM-ing me.

    18. MB

      This-

    19. SP

      And I just assumed it was because we were, you were testing a new feature.

    20. MB

      No.

    21. SP

      And I didn't realize it was 'cause I sent the link.

    22. MB

      Yeah. This is the other bad thing. Um, now... Yeah, it's, it's, v- it's very weird. I... We all know that they need... YouTube is trying to make itself more of a social media platform. There are better ways to do this. I have suggested implementations, such as a recommendation feed, where your friends just hit recommend on videos, and then it just-

    23. SP

      Mm

    24. MB

      ... shows all the videos your friends recommended. [buzzing sound] Dude, if Instagram... Okay, if Instagram's main feature is sending each other Reels, then-

    25. SP

      Which is what they're trying to copy with this

    26. MB

      ... which is... Yeah. Sort of what they're trying to copy with this, but there should just be a feed of your friends' recommended videos in YouTube. [buzzing sound]

    27. SP

      [laughs] That's Adam pressing that.

    28. MB

      Okay. Let me get around to the day-to-day business

    29. SP

      If that were the case, how would they make money? Answer me that.

    30. MB

      They would make a lot-

  3. 11:37 – 18:49

    BMW ads

    1. MB

      of free business ideas.

    2. SP

      [laughs]

    3. MB

      If you're a car company and you wanted to make a bunch of money, what if you just, like, put ads on all the cars-

    4. SP

      [laughs]

    5. MB

      ... as soon as they turned on? Wouldn't that be great? I think that would work.

    6. SP

      I need to buy a vintage car.

    7. MB

      I think if you had, like, a high enough tech car-

    8. SP

      Uh-huh

    9. MB

      ... maybe, like, all of your cars since 2022 have internet connections.

    10. SP

      2020.

    11. MB

      And maybe there's, like, a movie coming out. You just-

    12. SP

      [laughs]

    13. MB

      You just, like, put the trailer on the screen of the car.

    14. SP

      [laughs] So insane.

    15. MB

      And then you just make a ton of money. Like, that sound... That's, like, a great business idea, right?

    16. SP

      So insane.

    17. MB

      Am I overlooking anything? Isn't this-

    18. SP

      Ah

    19. MB

      ... great? [laughs]

    20. SP

      Every day we get closer to being there. I see no issues.

    21. MB

      I see-

    22. SP

      This is crazy.

    23. MB

      All right. Well, I guess I'll tell BMW to do that. Oh, wait, they already did that

    24. MB

      People got very annoyed.

    25. AM

      Yeah.

    26. SP

      Yeah, they, um, people were reporting that they got a Spiderman ad during their BMW startup this past week, and confirmed by BMW, this, quote, "special surprise"

    27. AM

      [laughs]

    28. SP

      ... is part of a, quote, "broader brand partnership," and is running from July 27th to August 10th. Um, basically, it's like certain BMW operating systems are all getting this, but essentially any car made after 2020. When you start it up, you got this little popup that was, says something about Spiderman, and if you click it, it then shows this like... It's not a trailer for the movie. It's this weird integration of, like, a BMW SUV driving down the street, going into the city, and then, like, Spiderman watching and, like, zipping around the city. Um, it, it, it even uses the ambient lighting in your car-

    29. MB

      Mm-hmm

    30. SP

      ... as part of it, and it's weird. It's-

  4. 18:49 – 20:49

    Reverse “did they even test this?”

    1. SP

      screen.

    2. MB

      I'm gonna buy a vintage car.

    3. SP

      Can't wait for BMW season 37, man.

    4. MB

      [laughs]

    5. SP

      Can I, can I have... I have a related reverse did they even test this before we move on?

    6. MB

      A reverse.

    7. SP

      Which is I have-

    8. SP

      A verse

    9. SP

      ... I've unlo- reverse, because they didn't test this, and it's improving my life.

    10. MB

      [laughs]

    11. SP

      [laughs]

    12. SP

      Where like-

    13. MB

      Okay

    14. SP

      ... I like-

    15. SP

      New segment

    16. SP

      ... I've gone from, like, I love my LG TV all the way around to, like, get this thing out of my house, I hate it so much, and it's because of how poorly made the hardware and software is. Um, but a little bit ago, part of the... So, okay, there's been a bunch of stuff coming out about how a lot of smart TVs are, like, doing lots of things on your network that you didn't give it permission to, and the, the modems are held up, and there's lots of traffic going in and out, and that's why a lot of them are, like, so slow and unresponsive. And my TV, a little bit ago, updated and then presented me with, like, a new u- user agreement, and the LG terms of service are, like, a million pages long, and they make you sign, like, 50 of them. Anyway, I realized that this time, with this user agreement, there was a later button.

    17. MB

      Hm.

    18. SP

      And I hit the later button, and I do this every time I turn on my TV. I'm like, "I'm not signing this," and it takes me-

    19. SP

      Oh [laughs] every time?

    20. SP

      ... straight to the home page. Every time. My TV has never run so smooth.

    21. SP

      [laughs]

    22. SP

      I... Somehow it does not have permission to do something it needs, it wants to do. Um, but my internet in my apartment, like, reads faster when I do speed tests. The TV is more responsive. Apps are more responsive.

    23. MB

      Hm.

    24. SP

      Hm.

    25. SP

      And it's-

    26. SP

      That's it

    27. SP

      ... there's some background process I have not g- And it, you know, I do have to hit later, but I'm pretty, I feel like I've slightly de- [beep] -ified-

    28. MB

      Yeah.

    29. SP

      Hm.

    30. SP

      ... my LG television.

  5. 20:49 – 26:38

    New Ford Truck EV

    1. MB

      keeps working. We talked about the Slate truck many times, um, especially because recently they have put out new pricing. But it turns out Ford has some competition coming.

    2. SP

      They have some competition. Um, they've unveiled the name and starting price of what they're gonna have as their, basically their ele- their mid-size electric truck platform. They're calling it Fathom, and it's gonna start at $28,350 plus destination and delivery. So call it right around $30,000 for a small-

    3. MB

      Hm

    4. SP

      ... or a mid-size electric truck. So basically I, you know, a lot of the people who are talking about the Slate being not competitive were comparing it to gas trucks. And, uh, like, the Maverick comes up a lot, being like a 28 to $30,000 truck, which is fully equipped obviously, because it doesn't need to spend money on the battery. So it can do all of the [laughs] screen, air conditioning, all the other, you know, power windows and stuff like that.

    5. MB

      Mm-hmm.

    6. SP

      Um, but there, the Slate was, I, I wa- I guess I was defending it because it kind of felt like it was a one of one without any real competition as a electric truck. Um, but now this will be a one-to-one competitor. This will be another small electric truck option at this low price from Ford.

    7. SP

      I'm already confused by that, 'cause midsize-

    8. SP

      For a mid... Yeah, officially the category is called midsize. I think that would be-

    9. SP

      Uh-

    10. SP

      ... bigger than the Slate truck.

    11. SP

      Well, so-

    12. SP

      Like, the Rivian is a midsize pickup truck.

    13. SP

      Yeah. But that's way, that's, like, significantly bigger than the Slate truck.

    14. SP

      Uh, yes.

    15. SP

      That's, like, four door.

    16. SP

      It's huge.

    17. SP

      So, like-

    18. SP

      Yeah, huge

    19. SP

      ... Google says, like, Tacoma, Ranger, Canyon, Frontier. Like-

    20. MB

      All about Rivian sized

    21. SP

      ... those are, yeah, closer to Rivian R1T.

    22. MB

      Yes. So yeah, that would, uh, naturally have still more seats than the Slate truck. This appears to be a more well-equipped truck than the Slate truck. But we're gonna get way more options later. This is gonna be coming in 2027. But it's int- it's just interesting to see us actually getting something responding to Slate and slotting into this absolutely baseline super cheap electric car category. We've been waiting for sub $30,000 EVs that don't suck for 10 years now, 15 years now.

    23. SP

      It would be really funny, and super American, if the first-

    24. MB

      [laughs]

    25. SP

      ... under 30K EV that, like, really slapped was a pickup truck.

    26. MB

      Sounds like that's what we're gonna get.

    27. SP

      [laughs]

    28. MB

      Like, 'cause we wanted a Model 2 for forever. We have a Model 3, obviously.

    29. SP

      No, you're getting a Cybercab.

    30. MB

      Knocking on the door of 30-something. Cybercab is still not here. Shocker.

  6. 26:38 – 52:16

    EU requires cross-platform copy-pasting

    1. MB

      what's the next story? The EU is requiring cross-platform clipboard from Apple to Windows.

    2. MB

      Oh, I saw this.

    3. SP

      Whoa. So Adam and Marques seemed interested in this.

    4. MB

      This is so interesting.

    5. SP

      I wrote down some notes really quick.

    6. MB

      Yeah. Okay, explain what it is.

    7. MB

      So I guess first, the cross, the, the clipboard feature. Like, you can copy and paste, obviously, on a Mac. There's a continuity feature built into macOS and iOS and iPadOS that lets you copy and paste between devices. So I use this all the time. I'll copy a password from 1Password on my Mac, and I go into the text field on my iPhone, and I hit paste, and it pastes it from my Mac. It's pretty nice.

    8. MB

      Really helpful.

    9. MB

      It's, it's a super useful feature. It's just for the devices in the Mac ecosystem, the Apple ecosystem. The s-

    10. SP

      Microsoft filed an EU interoperability request asking Apple to open ... It's called Universal Clipboard.

    11. MB

      Yeah.

    12. MB

      Mm-hmm.

    13. SP

      Um, which does what you just said. And according to MacRumors, it seems as Apple's currently working on that right now. Now, th- I guess the issue with if it happened right now with what it was, every time you went to paste something, you would have to grant permissions, which is awful. The thing they're working on-

    14. MB

      Sort of like accepting AirDrop. It's not, like, the worst thing ever

    15. MB

      ... yeah, it's a one-click maybe

    16. SP

      ... every time you paste, having to accept permissions would be terrible.

    17. MB

      Well, it's cross, it's cross device.

    18. MB

      Yeah.

    19. MB

      It's, like, one more click.

    20. MB

      It'd be annoying, but-

    21. SP

      I guess every time you're pasting would be really annoying. This would be ... So w- this would open it up to ... Well, that's what would happen if it were available now.

    22. MB

      Mm.

    23. SP

      What they're working on would be something where allowing copy and paste, the clipboard to be cross-platform through device pairing with a one-time permission.

    24. MB

      Oh.

    25. SP

      So, like, it would be a device pair. I think they said similar to something they did in iOS 26 with, uh, like, watch notifications. There's something ... I, I didn't fully ... I don't use Apple stuff. I didn't even know Universal Clipboard was a thing.

    26. MB

      Oh, it's amazing.

    27. SP

      [laughs] So I'm-

    28. MB

      Amazing

    29. SP

      ... learning about it through this.

    30. MB

      Yeah, it's dope.

  7. 52:16 – 55:14

    Firefox Split View

    1. MB

      Do you actually wanna hit this Firefox topic or no?

    2. SP

      I'll go really fast.

    3. MB

      Okay.

    4. SP

      Okay, Firefox.

    5. MB

      [laughs]

    6. SP

      It's the browser that I say I love all the time, yet could never answer a single reason as to why I love it other than pretty icon-

    7. MB

      And not-

    8. SP

      ... and I've been using it for a decade

    9. MB

      ... not Chrome.

    10. SP

      Um, yes, not Chrome.

    11. MB

      Not Google.

    12. SP

      They added a new feature, and I feel like this is the first time I've re- brought a browser feature-

    13. MB

      Whoa

    14. SP

      ... to the table, because you guys are all masochists when it comes to browsers. And-

    15. MB

      Yeah, I have-

    16. SP

      Anyways

    17. MB

      ... four browsers pinned to my dock right now. [laughs]

    18. SP

      Y'all are crazy. Um, anyways, they just added in the right-click menu open in split view-

    19. MB

      Oh

    20. SP

      ... which is where in any link you can right-click and then instead of, like, open a new tab, open a new window, there's a split view, and it will create a tab group of those two. You can click between the split view, and that will change the URL bar. So you can change it in that. It has been super helpful in writing the podcast, because earlier in the week I will just open a doc and throw the links to all the headlines we wanna talk about, and now just in the doc I can right-click and open each one, write down all my bullet points, um, and then it's there.

    21. MB

      Did you know that every browser has this feature? [laughs]

    22. SP

      Not Firefox. Firefox may have had this for years, I've just never seen that specific thing.

    23. MB

      [laughs]

    24. MB

      I was waiting for him to finish-

    25. SP

      Hold on, hold on

    26. MB

      ... saying that same thing. [laughs]

    27. SP

      Well, I still need to tell them a couple things they need to work out.

    28. MB

      [laughs]

    29. SP

      First of all.

    30. MB

      It's not perfect.

  8. 55:14 – 1:12:57

    Minimal phone 2

    1. MB

      They're already listening to me. [laughs]

    2. MB

      That's true. They preemptively listened to Myke.

    3. MB

      Okay, please go to the next thing. [laughs]

    4. MB

      All right. Um, Ellis will be excited about this. Uh-

    5. AM

      Oh, I saw this too.

    6. MB

      So we talked briefly about the Minimal Phone 2 last week. If you didn't know what the Minimal Phone was, we have-

    7. MB

      Shut off Marques's mic.

    8. MB

      Yeah, Marques's mic. [laughs]

    9. AM

      [laughs]

    10. MB

      Cut it. Cut it. Uh, we did a video on the Studio channel last, last year about minimal phones, uh, different kind of, like, phones that get you off of your phone. [air horn] Ironic. The Minimal Phone 1 was an E Ink phone, or at least an E-paper display phone.

    11. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    12. MB

      And it was very difficult to use on purpose. That was the whole point. Minimal is now back with the Minimal Phone 2. Uh, we talked about it briefly on the podcast last week because they showed a very, very brief teaser in which they just showed the outline of the device.

    13. AM

      Oh.

    14. MB

      Now, now [laughs] they have a full YouTube trailer for the Minimal Phone 2. Um-

    15. AM

      This worries me

    16. MB

      ... looks pretty nice. You know, it's, uh, it's got a keyboard. Uh, but instead of the E Ink or E paper display, it is now OLED, and the interesting thing about it is that the UX actually looks very nice. Um, it has this really specific, like, deep blacks OLED plus orange plus white aesthetic. It's very minimal, you might say.

    17. AM

      Mm-hmm.

    18. MB

      Um, and yeah, the full announcement and pre-orders are gonna go live on August 10th, which is next Monday, on Kickstarter. Uh, Ellis, do you have anything to add about this?

    19. AM

      So much. I don't know. Um, no, because they didn't really announce that many, like, things about it. Um-

    20. MB

      Yeah. The UX looks pretty cool.

    21. AM

      The-

    22. MB

      I have, I have two thoughts exactly. Only two.

    23. AM

      You can't... I, sh- I killed your mic. You can't share them. [laughs]

    24. MB

      [laughs]

    25. MB

      [laughs]

    26. AM

      I don't know. There's so much speculation about what it's gonna be able to do on Twitter. The thing that I'm kinda most interested in is one of the founders... So there's a notification light. They didn't mention this in the teaser.

    27. MB

      Mm-hmm.

    28. AM

      There's, like, a notification light, old school LED, and they showed a picture of it flashing blue, and one of the founders said it will flash blue specifically when you have an iMessage come in, and it was not explained how, and it-

    29. MB

      Oh

    30. AM

      ... was not explained why. And I had my iMessage working on the first Minimal Phone fine. Like-

  9. 1:12:57 – 1:13:56

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    1. MB

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    2. MB

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  10. 1:13:56 – 1:27:35

    CMF Clip Pro

    1. MB

      [bell dings] All right, welcome back. We got some more news for you. This week, CMF released brand-new headphones, or at least they announced them. They're called the CMF Clip Pro. It's their first open headphones. Um, this is a growing category of headphones. Bose made some last year that were fairly popular.

    2. MB

      There's been a ton in the last, like, two, three years.

    3. MB

      There's been a ton.

    4. MB

      Yeah.

    5. MB

      There's been a ton. So they're earbuds that basically clip onto the side of your ear, and they're open, so they don't go into your ear canal. They just shoot sound into your ear. This is for people that want to be able to just ambient play, play music and, you know, watch videos on their phones without bothering other people, but also hear other people talk to them so there's not something, like, blocking their ear canal.

    6. MB

      Good for commuting.

    7. MB

      Good for commuting.

    8. MB

      If you're, if you're biking or if you need to hear-

    9. MB

      Biking

    10. MB

      ... like, the street around you, stuff like that.

    11. MB

      Yes. Yeah.

    12. MB

      Yeah.

    13. MB

      So you don't get hit by a car.

    14. MB

      Transparency.

    15. MB

      Uh, so CMF is announcing their new line of it called the CMF Clip Pro. They put out some teasers for it on Twitter.

    16. MB

      They sure did.

    17. MB

      Um, they sure did.

    18. MB

      Yeah.

    19. MB

      Because-

    20. MB

      And everyone's talking about-

    21. MB

      [laughs]

    22. MB

      ... the headphones, right?

    23. MB

      Everyone's not talking about the headphones. So they put out these teasers on Twitter. They are, you know, teaser photos. Um, you know, the classic Nothing CMF sort of, like, British minimalism style that they've always kind of done with the, like, weird haircuts and, like, bright colored, uh-

    24. MB

      Blank canvas

    25. MB

      ... blank canvases and stuff like that. But you'll notice in some of these photos that there's a little watermark in the bottom corner that says, "Contains AI generated imagery." Now-

    26. MB

      Sure, sure does.

    27. MB

      They-

    28. SP

      Wait a minute. It says way more than that, sorry. Have you read the whole thing?

    29. MB

      What else?

    30. SP

      It says-

  11. 1:27:35 – 1:32:06

    OpenAI vs Apple lawsuit pt. 2

    1. SP

      one thing to learn from this episode is companies are not people.

    2. MB

      They're, they're not... Companies are not people in the EU, though. But they are in the United States, and we don't require the rule.

    3. SP

      True.

    4. MB

      Uh, okay. Speaking of a company that's trying to pretend like it's a person, OpenAI. Uh, we talked briefly last week about this lawsuit, this crazy lawsuit that's happening where Apple is suing OpenAI for alleged trade secret, um, stealing, and all these, like, LMAO, uh, texts that they have sent. They'd be like, "Ha ha, I still have access to the secret information inside of Apple even though I now open, work at OpenAI." So now OpenAI published this blog post, which is kinda nuts. Um, they're bringing it to the court of public opinion. The blog post is called Apple Is Getting This Wrong. It's not a super long blog post. It's basically just talking about the lawsuit and how they think that, um, Apple is wrong for bringing it, but they do share a bunch of iMessage conversations and a bunch of email history-

    5. SP

      Yeah

    6. MB

      ... to show that both, uh... Apple says that it contacted OpenAI in February and got no response, but now admits that its lawyer contacted the wrong person and that the person at the company confused two last names. So they emailed the wrong person because they had similar last names. That Apple claims it had a conversation with OpenAI's general counsel, but now Apple admits that never happened, that Apple's lawyer says that it told OpenAI it was resolving any issues, then went silent for five months until they randomly got hit with a lawsuit. This is all alleged by OpenAI. Um, we are not saying any of this is true. Uh, yeah, so they published the iMessages and the emails, and this is really weird. I don't think that usually companies come out and make blog posts about active litigation.

    7. SP

      Yeah.

    8. MB

      In fact, the number one thing you're supposed to not do is come out and just make a bunch of blog posts about active litigation.

    9. SP

      Yeah.

    10. MB

      So it's very irregular that this is happening. They're-

    11. SP

      It makes them seem very confident.

    12. MB

      They are, they seem very confident.

    13. SP

      Can I read to you my favorite message, or p- part of this very, very long... I, I was like, they only allege the, like, couple quick things. This thread is-

    14. MB

      There's a lot of redaction. [laughs]

    15. SP

      There's a lot of stuff. But yeah, my favorite part is, "Redacted Apple information will redacted Apple information prototype build, but too late for redacted Apple information," with the reply, "Awesome. I was thinking redacted Apple information for redacted Apple information, and redacted Apple information-

    16. MB

      [laughs]

    17. SP

      ... for redacted Apple information. But since redacted Apple f- information was pushed back, then it should get redacted Apple information also. I think we are aligned." Smiley face. [laughs]

    18. MB

      [laughs]

    19. SP

      [laughs] Same, bro.

    20. MB

      How this is supposed to-

    21. SP

      You know what's crazy about this? This is not unheard of for them to be publishing, or well, not unheard of, but, like, you can publish these transcripts, right?

    22. MB

      Yeah.

    23. SP

      We normally see that from court cases.

    24. MB

      Mm-hmm.

    25. SP

      And it'll just be texts, and that s- that says it's, like, redacted, Apple employee number one, whatever, blah, blah.

    26. MB

      Yeah, yeah.

    27. SP

      Someone had to Photoshop into-

    28. MB

      Yeah

    29. SP

      ... the form of iMessage-

    30. MB

      Yeah

  12. 1:32:06 – 1:36:23

    Google Fitbit with Apple Health

    1. SP

      Yeah.

    2. MB

      Anyway. All right. Quick little hit, um, just wanted to mention. Fitbit data can now sync to Apple Health. Let's clap.

    3. SP

      [claps]

    4. SP

      Yes. Yes. [claps]

    5. MB

      We've waited so long.

    6. SP

      Two things I don't use.

    7. MB

      Yeah. Come on.

    8. SP

      I don't know. I was told to clap. I clapped. [laughs]

    9. MB

      All right. I'm hyped about this, um, because I'm still using the Fitbit Air.

    10. SP

      And an iPhone.

    11. MB

      I'm still enjoying it. And an iPhone. And previously, you had to use a bridge app to bridge your H- uh, Fitbit health, Google Health information over to Apple Health. Now it's native. So that's good because I don't have my iPhone in my pocket all the time, so I don't always have my step information or my heart rate variability or stuff like that, and I don't like wearing an Apple Watch. So now my Fitbit can just give all this information to my Apple Health, and I can still use Apple Health. I like Google Health. I actually like it quite a bit, even on iOS.

    12. SP

      Mm-hmm.

    13. MB

      Um, and I've kind of come around to the dumb Gemini previews. But-

    14. SP

      Can I ask, what do you like about Apple Health?

    15. MB

      What I like about Apple Health.

    16. SP

      'Cause I've found that once I couldn't use Apple Health, I didn't miss it at all.

    17. MB

      One thing that's useful about Apple Health is that-

    18. SP

      You can copy and paste universally? [laughs]

    19. MB

      One thing that's useful about Apple Health is that a lot of apps use Apple Health as a data source.

    20. SP

      Source?

    21. MB

      Yes.

    22. SP

      That means it's getting it from your phone? Or from whatever's dumping into Apple Health?

    23. MB

      Like, other apps that I use will pull information from Apple Health.

    24. SP

      Like what?

    25. MB

      Like, uh, MacroFactor.

    26. SP

      So, like, if I use a Garmin-

    27. MB

      Oh

    28. SP

      ... and I go on a run, it all saves to Apple Health-

    29. MB

      Yeah

    30. SP

      ... and then other things can pull that information, like Strava-

  13. 1:36:23 – 1:47:04

    Garmin Cirqa first impressions

    1. MB

      So I'm glad I got over that. But yeah.

    2. SP

      The walking around is-

    3. MB

      But okay, speaking of other wearables, so David, you're wearing the Fitbit.

    4. SP

      Yeah, I'm wearing the Fitbit.

    5. MB

      I am... been wearing the Whoop. Andrew, which, uh... What was on your wrist a second ago? What was that thing? What is that? I haven't seen that before.

    6. SP

      The Garmin Cirqa.

    7. MB

      Oh.

    8. SP

      It's here.

    9. MB

      So you're how many days in?

    10. SP

      24 hours.

    11. MB

      24 hours in.

    12. SP

      Mm-hmm.

    13. MB

      Any thoughts?

    14. SP

      I have my extremely brief impressions because-

    15. MB

      Okay

    16. SP

      ... it was only [laughs] 24 hours and I haven't even done a workout with it, but-

    17. SP

      [laughs]

    18. SP

      ... I will try and quickly go through this because this is a long episode.

    19. MB

      Okay.

    20. SP

      Um, okay. So it's big.

    21. MB

      It is.

    22. SP

      It's thick. It's-

    23. MB

      Bigger

    24. SP

      ... I want to see it next to your Whoop-

    25. MB

      Ah

    26. SP

      ... 'cause now it actually doesn't look that big compared to the Whoop.

    27. MB

      It's just-

    28. SP

      I thought the Whoop was a little sl- slimmer profile.

    29. MB

      Dimensionally it's a little bit taller than the Whoop-

    30. SP

      Okay

  14. 1:47:04 – 1:52:42

    Casio Ring Watch

    1. MB

      Damn.

    2. MB

      I'm really waiting for some much nicer bands to hit the market, which they will.

    3. MB

      They will indeed.

    4. SP

      Patience.

    5. MB

      Um, well, before we get off of the health tracker thing and take a break, I just wanted to point out there's a new Casio Ring watch. So-

    6. SP

      Ring watch?

    7. MB

      Yeah.

    8. SP

      Okay.

    9. MB

      So Alex has the Casio Ring watch. Uh-

    10. MB

      Casio Ring.

    11. SP

      [laughs] This is so funny, 'cause I saw this-

    12. MB

      Or a watch ring, I guess. [laughs] It's a watch ring.

    13. SP

      That's the confusing part-

    14. MB

      Watch ring

    15. SP

      ... is I saw this on a Verge headline, I think, but didn't read that it was a ring.

    16. MB

      [laughs]

    17. SP

      And I was like, this is such a weird chunky watch.

    18. MB

      You watch people.

    19. MB

      So it's a, it's a watch-

    20. SP

      It's just ring people

    21. MB

      ... it's a ring that sha- that is a watch.

    22. MB

      What?

    23. MB

      It's like a Casio watch that you wear on your finger.

    24. SP

      It's a joke, right?

    25. MB

      And it's so... No, they sell it.

    26. SP

      I wish it was.

    27. MB

      And it's a-

    28. SP

      This is a real-

    29. MB

      It's amazing.

    30. SP

      I think it's so cute.

  15. 1:52:42 – 1:53:57

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    1. MB

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    2. SP

      All right, welcome back. Gonna go fast.

  16. 1:53:57 – 1:59:02

    Keychron

    1. SP

      Skip ahead 35 minutes to get to the end of this. Just kidding, we only have 20 minutes left on the card. Okay.

    2. MB

      [laughs]

    3. SP

      I just wanna say, Keychron, the keyboard company, kinda cooking lately.

    4. MB

      Mm-hmm.

    5. SP

      They, for whatever reason, their Twitter game, they're just tweeting every day.

    6. MB

      [laughs]

    7. SP

      And they're releasing stuff, and they're showing off prototypes of things, and something about it just looks like Keychron's on the up and up. Um, they just released a new really lightweight gaming mouse with a, a magnetic swappable battery, which is, like, something-

    8. MB

      Hmm

    9. SP

      ... I've seen in a couple random Chinese mouse companies, but, like, this is really cool.

    10. MB

      Is this the full mouse?

    11. SP

      No. David's looking at a prototype render that they're working on that's-

    12. MB

      Oh.

    13. SP

      A lot of, um, like, mice enthusiasts have built things like this, where it's a fingertip grip only mouse-

    14. MB

      Oh

    15. SP

      ... which is essentially only the-

    16. MB

      Yeah

    17. SP

      ... front half of the mouse.

    18. MB

      Yeah.

    19. SP

      It is, like, 30 grams, or supposed to be 30 grams. That has the magnetic swappable battery as well.

    20. MB

      Mm.

    21. SP

      They're posting that, and they're, like, posting all these things about, like, what are some things we should change? They have something they just released called the Kneip Pro, which is this really sick mini wireless trackball device-

    22. MB

      Oh, yeah, that looks cool

    23. SP

      ... that even Ellis came to me and was like, "Dude, did you see this thing Keychron's doing?" It has six customizable buttons. It fits kind of right at the bottom of your keyboard by the space bar to now be a trackball-

    24. MB

      Yeah, it's dope

    25. SP

      ... with all these different buttons. I think it's sweet.

    26. AM

      Yeah. Sweet c- concept, terrible name.

    27. SP

      [laughs]

    28. MB

      It is a weird name.

    29. SP

      Yeah, Kneip is a weird name.

    30. MB

      But-

  17. 1:59:02 – 2:07:24

    Trivia Scores

    1. MB

      My new Twitter king.

    2. AM

      David, relax.

    3. MB

      Sorry. [laughs]

    4. SP

      [laughs]

    5. AM

      Yeah.

    6. SP

      Uh, but yeah, we should get to trivia.

    7. MB

      Yeah. [upbeat music]

    8. AM

      Marques, it's kinda crazy that you'd ask us about-

    9. SP

      What? Look how cool this is.

    10. AM

      That is-

    11. SP

      It's a mouse.

    12. AM

      [laughs]

    13. MB

      And I said.

    14. SP

      I know, but, like-

    15. MB

      Is it a ring?

    16. SP

      It doesn't look like a mouse

    17. MB

      Is it a ring?

    18. SP

      It can be a mouse.

    19. MB

      Is it a ring? Is it a what?

    20. AM

      And, and it's showing us, like, things that progressively look less and less like mice, and being like, "You could control your computer cursor with this."

    21. MB

      [laughs]

    22. SP

      [laughs]

    23. AM

      That weird, like, two-button finger pad you showed us earlier.

    24. MB

      Yeah. This can of Chi Forest is also a mouse.

    25. AM

      Yeah. Guys, you can... Yeah.

    26. SP

      Oh, wait, we actually-

    27. AM

      Is this a mouse?

    28. SP

      Where's this other thing he's...

    29. MB

      [laughs]

    30. AM

      Marques, I was saying, uh, you know, you're quite the person to ask us about having your C- your company's CEO on Twitter because, uh, my company's CEO is on Twitter. [laughs]

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