E135: Wagner rebels, SCOTUS ends AA, AI M&A, startups gone bad, spacetime warps & more

E135: Wagner rebels, SCOTUS ends AA, AI M&A, startups gone bad, spacetime warps & more

All-In PodcastJul 1, 20231h 36m

David Friedberg (host), Jason Calacanis (host), Chamath Palihapitiya (host), David Sacks (host), Narrator, Jason Calacanis (host), Narrator, David Friedberg (host), Guest (guest), Narrator, Narrator

Wagner Group rebellion in Russia and its impact on the Ukraine warSupreme Court decision ending race-based affirmative action in college admissionsLegacy admissions, athletic preferences, and equity versus meritocracy in higher educationRole of unions, school choice, and early education in addressing inequalityAI infrastructure boom: Databricks–MosaicML deal, Neeva acquisition, Inflection AI fundingVenture capital dynamics, fund size incentives, and ZIRP-era startup distortions (IRL, Byju’s, crypto)NanoGrav’s pulsar data revealing gravitational waves and warping of spacetime

In this episode of All-In Podcast, featuring David Friedberg and Jason Calacanis, E135: Wagner rebels, SCOTUS ends AA, AI M&A, startups gone bad, spacetime warps & more explores geopolitics, Supreme Court shifts, AI gold rush, and cosmic ripples The hosts open with analysis of the Wagner Group’s brief mutiny in Russia, debating its implications for Putin’s regime, the Ukraine war, and Western narratives about Russian instability. They then dissect the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision striking down race-based affirmative action, exploring ethics, legacy admissions, unions, and school choice as deeper levers of equality of opportunity. The conversation shifts to the AI boom, covering Databricks’ acquisition of MosaicML, Inflection AI’s massive raise, and how infrastructure players are racing to assemble full-stack AI capabilities, while warning of ZIRP-era excess and weak venture discipline. They close with examples of startup fraud and overvaluation, and a “science corner” on new evidence of universe-scale gravitational waves subtly warping spacetime.

Geopolitics, Supreme Court shifts, AI gold rush, and cosmic ripples

The hosts open with analysis of the Wagner Group’s brief mutiny in Russia, debating its implications for Putin’s regime, the Ukraine war, and Western narratives about Russian instability. They then dissect the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision striking down race-based affirmative action, exploring ethics, legacy admissions, unions, and school choice as deeper levers of equality of opportunity. The conversation shifts to the AI boom, covering Databricks’ acquisition of MosaicML, Inflection AI’s massive raise, and how infrastructure players are racing to assemble full-stack AI capabilities, while warning of ZIRP-era excess and weak venture discipline. They close with examples of startup fraud and overvaluation, and a “science corner” on new evidence of universe-scale gravitational waves subtly warping spacetime.

Key Takeaways

The Wagner mutiny exposed cracks but did not destabilize Putin’s regime.

Prigozhin’s march toward Moscow lacked elite or popular support, ended in a negotiated exile, and ultimately seemed to consolidate Russian power centers around Putin, even as it embarrassed the regime.

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Western hopes for a ‘liberal coup’ in Russia are likely misguided.

The hosts argue pressure on Russia is more likely to strengthen nationalist hardliners than produce a Gorbachev- or Navalny-style successor; a figure like Prigozhin could easily be worse for the West.

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The end of affirmative action will likely accelerate scrutiny of legacy and athletic admissions.

With race-based preferences struck down, unequal but unprotected advantages for legacies, donors’ children, and recruited athletes become more glaring, setting up future legal and reputational challenges.

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Fixing inequality at college admissions is too late; early education is the real leverage point.

Several hosts argue real opportunity gaps open in pre-K and K–12, advocating school choice, competition with teachers’ unions, and intensive early support (e. ...

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AI infrastructure is in a land-grab phase, driving aggressive M&A and mega-fundraises.

Deals like Databricks–MosaicML and Snowflake–Neeva, plus Inflection AI’s GPU-heavy raise, reflect a race by data and cloud players to own the end-to-end AI toolchain, from data to model training to deployment.

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Venture excesses from the zero-interest era are still unwinding and will repeat in AI.

Cases like IRL’s fake users and Byju’s down-round spiral illustrate how oversized funds, weak diligence, and inexperienced board members drove mispricing and fraud—patterns the hosts expect to reappear in AI hype.

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New pulsar measurements suggest the universe is filled with slow, massive gravitational waves.

NanoGrav’s 15-year dataset indicates spacetime itself is gently rippling due to supermassive black hole activity, reinforcing general relativity and opening paths to map the large-scale gravitational structure of the cosmos.

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Notable Quotes

Be careful what you wish for. Why in the world would Americans want Prigozhin in charge of Russia’s nuclear arsenal?

David Sacks

Trying to fix it when they’re 18 is a little too late. Fixing it when these kids are three, four, and five years old—that’s when they deserve and need all the help in the world.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Fund size is destiny. For SoftBank, a $10–20 million check doesn’t even make sense, so they had to write $200 million checks into essentially seed-stage companies.

David Sacks

This time it is not different. Replace AI with crypto, coworking, or SaaS—it’s the exact same thing.

Chamath Palihapitiya

We’re starting to see that spacetime itself is slowly vibrating, being stretched and compressed because of very large gravitational events happening around the universe.

David Friedberg

Questions Answered in This Episode

How should Western policy toward Russia change if internal coups are more likely to produce hardliners than liberal reformers?

The hosts open with analysis of the Wagner Group’s brief mutiny in Russia, debating its implications for Putin’s regime, the Ukraine war, and Western narratives about Russian instability. ...

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If affirmative action is off the table, what concrete policies could most effectively expand opportunity for disadvantaged students before college age?

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Where should universities draw the line between building a diverse class and maintaining strict academic meritocracy, especially around legacies and athletes?

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In the AI boom, how can investors and founders distinguish truly durable infrastructure businesses from hype-driven, capital-intensive bets that mainly enrich chip and cloud vendors?

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What practical breakthroughs might eventually flow from mapping the universe’s gravitational-wave background—could it ever inform propulsion, navigation, or even concepts like time dilation in real systems?

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David Friedberg

This is going to be a feisty episode.

Jason Calacanis

Is it?

David Friedberg

Two of us are on Greenwich Mean Time, two of us are on Pacific. J Cal's still asleep in his head.

Jason Calacanis

I'm good actually.

David Friedberg

You good?

Jason Calacanis

I'm good.

David Friedberg

All right. Well, great to be back. Welcome to the All Conspiracy podcast, where we repeat false statements and help spin them into tales of struggling against the establishment, the elite, and the mainstream media. We will deliver to you, the people, the revolution against the powers that be.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Unless it offends (censored) .

Jason Calacanis

(laughs)

David Friedberg

(laughs)

Jason Calacanis

In this case, ...

David Friedberg

Mums the word.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Beep. Beep. Beep.

Jason Calacanis

Still trying to get my invite for next week.

David Friedberg

All right, we also enjoy-

Chamath Palihapitiya

Mums the word, Friedberg. Mums the word.

Jason Calacanis

Woo-hoo.

David Friedberg

Mums the word. We'll also enjoy sharing with you fantastic stories of opulence-

Chamath Palihapitiya

Let's be neutral.

David Friedberg

... opulence, leisure, and benevolent greed. Here we go. Joining me today are my co-hosts, General David Sacks, commander of the-

Jason Calacanis

(coughs)

David Friedberg

... Fourth Battalion of the Internet Tweet Brigade. General, welcome. Joining us from a remote location.

Jason Calacanis

In Moscow.

David Sacks

Has there been, like, an establishment takeover of the pod? I mean-

Jason Calacanis

Yes. (laughs)

David Sacks

... what, what's up with this intro?

Jason Calacanis

Yeah.

David Sacks

Every argument they make against us, you're basically just conceding is true.

Jason Calacanis

Yeah, I know. Exactly.

David Friedberg

From his 12th century Mediterranean castle, Il Duce, Chamath Palihapitiya. Welcome, Chamath. How is the Mediterranean diet treating you?

Chamath Palihapitiya

Uh, blue.

David Friedberg

Blue?

Chamath Palihapitiya

Blue.

David Friedberg

And Emperor Nero Calacanis, ruler over podcasts, paid events, entrepreneurial universities-

Jason Calacanis

Mm.

David Friedberg

... and dental SPVs. Emperor, thank you for letting me sit in your throne today.

Jason Calacanis

It's good to be here. Thank you.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Dental SPVs (laughs) .

Jason Calacanis

Shout out to my dentists.

David Sacks

Wait, did you say king of STDs?

Jason Calacanis

(laughs)

David Friedberg

(laughs)

David Sacks

What, what'd you say? (laughs)

Jason Calacanis

SPVs.

David Sacks

Oh, SPVs.

Jason Calacanis

Dental SPVs, yeah.

Chamath Palihapitiya

That's the thing with certain STDs, where once you are king-

Jason Calacanis

(laughs)

Chamath Palihapitiya

... you're gonna be king for life.

Jason Calacanis

Absolutely.

David Sacks

(laughs)

Narrator

(instrumental music plays) Let your winners ride. Rain Man, David Sachs. I'm going all in. And I said, we open source it to the fans and they've just gone crazy with it. Love you, best nightie. Queen of quinoa. I'm going all in.

Jason Calacanis

TheSyndicate.com. Yeah, thank you.

David Friedberg

You've been doing, you said, five shows a week lately. Your voice is shot.

Jason Calacanis

(sighs) I, my voice-

David Friedberg

You're worn out.

Jason Calacanis

... is starting to go, so I, I asked you if you'd moderate and you, you thankfully said yes.

David Friedberg

I've got the energy I missed last week. I enjoyed listening to you guys with, uh, BG. Great episode. Sorry I couldn't join. But let's kick it off.

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