Jared Kushner: Israel-Hamas War, paths forward, macro picture, AI

Sacks, what essay were you writing last night till 3:00 in the morning?

Oh, I was blasting people on Twitter yesterday. I was collecting scalps.

(laughs)

(laughs)

Collecting scalps (laughs) .

I keep these receipts of people who attack me on Ukraine and then, like, six months later, you know, they'll write a tweet admitting they were wrong, so I'll rub it in their face.

You have a little Google Doc and you just go through one by one?

No, I just, like, bookmark them. I just bookmark them.

(laughs)

(laughs) Yeah. You have, like, your Kill Bill list.

Yeah.

You are so petty. Oh my God.

Yeah.

I love it.

Well, I mean-

I love that about you.

Some would say that's a good defense mechanism, right?

(laughs)

(laughs)

(laughs) Yeah. They gotta know they're not gonna take any free shots 'cause if they do and then-

They're coming back.

... you know, invariably I, I'm proven correct, then, uh-

(laughs)

I'm gonna smack 'em. Very Trumpian, isn't it?

Yeah, it's a very hard burden for you to carry, just being right all the time.

(laughs)

I, I, I respect the way you do it with such grace and, uh, magni- magnanimity, so.

Let your winners ride. Rain Man, David Sachs. I'm going all in. And I said we open source it to the fans and they've just gone crazy with it.

Love you, bestie.

Queen of quinoa.

I'm going all in.

All right. Welcome back to the All-In Pod. Really excited to have a guest with us today, Jared Kushner. I'm sure everyone knows who he is. We obviously talked about Jared's interview with Lex Fridman on the pod a couple of weeks ago. And what happened, Chamath, you DM'd Jared and started chatting and said, "Hey, would you be interested in coming to talk with us-"

Yeah.

"... about these matters?"

Yeah.

And Jared very, you know, kindly agreed to do it. So we're really excited to, uh, have Jared join us today. Jared, welcome.

Thank you for having me.

So, I don't think you need much of an introduction. Obviously, uh, you were a senior advisor to, uh, President Trump from 2017 to 2021 and, uh, you worked on the US Mexico relationship as well as led the Middle East peace efforts, which I think is gonna make up the bulk of what we're excited to talk about today. Uh, just really briefly, since leaving, um, office, you've been investing, running a firm called Affinity Partners, is that right? Um, maybe you can share with us just a little bit about what you've been up to and then we'll, you know, kind of get into it here.

Perfect. Affinity Partners is a private equity firm that I started when we left, uh, doing growth investing, private equity investing. Globally, we raised just over 3.1 billion, uh, doing a lot of investments, trying to, uh, bring Gulf money into Israel, into the US, trying to figure out how, through, uh, investments you could bring countries closer together, people closer together, uh, looking at a lot of areas where there's, uh, structural transitions happening, uh, at large in the global economy, whether it's nearshoring, from offline to online, uh, you know, software, a lot of, uh, different interesting areas, a lot in the, the fintech space and financial services right now. Uh, but, you know, enjoying it and, uh, the goal is really to bring the experience that we had from the previously being an investor and, um, then the time in government, and then thinking through how you could use those macro, uh, learnings and connections and relationships, uh, and navigational skills to the investing side.