E101: Ye acquires Parler, Snap drops 30%, macro outlook, VC metrics, valuing stocks & more

E101: Ye acquires Parler, Snap drops 30%, macro outlook, VC metrics, valuing stocks & more

All-In PodcastOct 22, 20221h 41m

Jason Calacanis (host), Brad Gerstner (guest), Chamath Palihapitiya (host), David Friedberg (host), Narrator, Jason Calacanis (host), Chamath Palihapitiya (host), Brad Gerstner (guest), David Friedberg (host), Narrator

Kanye West’s Parler acquisition, antisemitic remarks, and media ethics around mental illnessFragmentation of social media, content moderation, and the role of alternative platformsSnap’s 90% drawdown, Apple’s IDFA changes, ad economics, and platform governanceBig tech cost structures, zero-interest-rate distortion, and the coming era of efficiencyMacro outlook: rates, inflation, earnings resilience, and systemic “breakage” riskVenture capital performance (TVPI vs DPI), over-marking, and portfolio overlapRetail stock picking vs index investing, valuation discipline, and time arbitrageTax policy (California Prop 30), state-level competition, and long-run U.S. tax pressures

In this episode of All-In Podcast, featuring Jason Calacanis and Brad Gerstner, E101: Ye acquires Parler, Snap drops 30%, macro outlook, VC metrics, valuing stocks & more explores kanye, Parler, social media shakeout, venture math, and stock sanity The episode opens with Kanye West’s planned acquisition of Parler and a broader debate about mental health, media ethics, and the fragmentation of social media platforms. The conversation shifts to Snap’s stock collapse, Apple’s ad privacy changes, and what they reveal about social media business models, governance, and overstaffing in big tech. The besties and guest Brad Gerstner then dig into macroeconomics, interest rates, and why the next decade will reward true operating discipline and cash generation. In the back half, they unpack venture capital returns, fund construction, and why most stock pickers and many VCs will underperform simple indexes in a higher-rate world.

Kanye, Parler, social media shakeout, venture math, and stock sanity

The episode opens with Kanye West’s planned acquisition of Parler and a broader debate about mental health, media ethics, and the fragmentation of social media platforms. The conversation shifts to Snap’s stock collapse, Apple’s ad privacy changes, and what they reveal about social media business models, governance, and overstaffing in big tech. The besties and guest Brad Gerstner then dig into macroeconomics, interest rates, and why the next decade will reward true operating discipline and cash generation. In the back half, they unpack venture capital returns, fund construction, and why most stock pickers and many VCs will underperform simple indexes in a higher-rate world.

Key Takeaways

Media platforms should treat clearly manic public figures with restraint, not as ratings bait.

The hosts argue it’s unethical to feature someone in an acute mental health crisis for long-form interviews, both out of compassion for the person and to limit the spread of harmful antisemitic rhetoric that could inspire real-world violence.

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Social networks are less monopolies and more editorialized, replaceable app layers.

Friedberg frames Elon buying Twitter and Kanye buying Parler as evidence that users self-select into platforms with specific speech norms, and capital will continue to fund alternatives when groups feel “edited out” of mainstream networks.

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User metrics are strong; monetization and Apple’s privacy moves are the real pain points.

Snap, Twitter, and Meta still show sticky daily usage, but Apple’s IDFA changes have slashed ad targeting efficiency and ARPU, exposing how dependent these businesses are on precise tracking and how vulnerable their ad pricing is.

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Zero interest rates masked bad governance, bloated headcount, and weak leadership.

The panel stresses that a decade of free capital let tech companies overhire, tolerate poor cost discipline, and indulge dual-class control; higher rates are now forcing layoffs, return-of-capital strategies, and a reset in what governance investors accept.

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A huge chunk of recent venture “paper returns” will likely be marked down.

Gersten’s TVPI vs DPI analysis suggests that 2011–2020 vintages are massively over-marked; as funds age, he expects their ultimate cash returns to revert toward long-run averages, implying hundreds of billions in forthcoming write-downs.

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Portfolio construction and differentiation matter as much as picking hot deals.

Chamath shows that funds with highly overlapping portfolios will suffer more when markets correct, because the same crowded, momentum names get repriced together, while uncorrelated portfolios are less exposed to the “VC index trade.”

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Most investors—retail and professional—should default to low-cost index funds.

Friedberg warns that narrative-driven stock picking without financial statement fluency or valuation discipline leads to underperformance; citing Buffett’s long-term S&P 500 bet, they argue indexing plus modest, educational stock experiments is a better path.

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Notable Quotes

I find it abhorrent to interview somebody when they're in a manic episode like this. I wouldn't do it.

Jason Calacanis

It's not forgiving what they say, but it is having maybe a little bit more compassion in that moment to get them back to their true self.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Not all good companies are good investments. Price of entry matters.

Brad Gerstner

We've gone through an entire decade of under-training an entire generation of people in Silicon Valley.

Unnamed ‘star’ investor summarized by Chamath Palihapitiya

Everyone learns this lesson over time and everyone gets bonked on the head at some point... which is why nearly every stock picker underperforms the index over time.

David Friedberg

Questions Answered in This Episode

Where should media outlets draw the ethical line between free expression and exploiting someone’s mental health crisis for attention?

The episode opens with Kanye West’s planned acquisition of Parler and a broader debate about mental health, media ethics, and the fragmentation of social media platforms. ...

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If alternative platforms like Parler and Rumble grow, how will that change the balance between content moderation, radicalization risk, and true competition in social media?

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Given Apple’s power over mobile advertising, what realistic strategies do Snap, Meta, and others have to rebuild monetization without compromising user privacy?

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How can LPs and founders better detect when venture returns are just inflated marks rather than real, distributable value—and adjust behavior before the write-downs arrive?

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For an individual investor today, what specific skills and processes are truly required to justify picking stocks instead of just owning a global or S&P 500 index?

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Transcript Preview

Jason Calacanis

Welcome everybody to episode 101. David Sacks is on vacation. Sitting in, Brad Gerstner from Altimeter Group. Welcome back to the pod. Brad, how you doing?

Brad Gerstner

It's good to be back.

Jason Calacanis

Good to be back.

Brad Gerstner

I mean, first- first you guys, uh, you know, tilted Friedberg and now a little bit on, uh, Sacks is-

Jason Calacanis

Yeah.

Brad Gerstner

... is getting attacked on Twitter and so you roll me back in when-

Jason Calacanis

Yeah, absolutely.

Brad Gerstner

... when you've got a little problem.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Whenever the Brigadoons come out, Brad Gerstner comes on.

Brad Gerstner

(laughs)

Chamath Palihapitiya

(laughs)

David Friedberg

Brigadoons. I love that term.

Jason Calacanis

I think Sacks will be okay. But shout out to Sacks.

Chamath Palihapitiya

You know who probably hates the term Brigadoons? The nitwits that are in the Brigadoons.

Brad Gerstner

(laughs) Brigadoons.

Chamath Palihapitiya

Oh, the Brigadoons.

Jason Calacanis

It's all going to end at some point because I think-

Chamath Palihapitiya

The Brigadoons.

Jason Calacanis

... new ownership at Twitter is going to change, like, the whole span thing.

David Friedberg

That's a Rodgers and Hammerstein musical, right? Brigadoon?

Jason Calacanis

Brigadoon, yeah, yeah.

David Friedberg

Brigadoon. (laughs)

Chamath Palihapitiya

Yeah.

Jason Calacanis

Yeah, yeah. But I think- I think Brigadoons could stick. I don't know, I've never heard anybody use that for the verbatims.

David Friedberg

Yeah, calling- calling the Twitter mob the Brigadoons is a good new thing. I like it.

Jason Calacanis

Yeah.

David Friedberg

It's pejorative, it's funny, it'll- it'll- It softens everything a little bit, tones it down. I like it.

Jason Calacanis

It feels goofy.

Chamath Palihapitiya

It completely-

David Friedberg

Yeah.

Chamath Palihapitiya

... disempowers them. They really want to be taken seriously, but they're just a Brigadoon.

David Friedberg

(laughs)

Chamath Palihapitiya

Brigadoon.

Jason Calacanis

I mean, to be a Brigadoon though-

Brad Gerstner

(laughs)

Jason Calacanis

... you have to have four or more accounts and you have to reply-

David Friedberg

(laughs)

Jason Calacanis

... to each of those accounts as if it's an actual conversation.

David Friedberg

No, you don't.

Jason Calacanis

Can you be a solo Brigadoon?

Chamath Palihapitiya

Jakell, when you- Yeah, when you retweet something as a social justice warrior, as an example, you're trying to join the Brigadoon.

Jason Calacanis

Oh, got it.

Chamath Palihapitiya

It's just a different Brigadoon.

Jason Calacanis

It's a Brigadoon. (laughs)

David Friedberg

Jakell, uh, you're sometimes a Brigadoon, right?

Chamath Palihapitiya

Uh.

Jason Calacanis

You're part of Brigadoons, Jakell?

Chamath Palihapitiya

No, I'm not part of any Brigadoon. I- I-

David Friedberg

You totally Brigadoon, come on.

Chamath Palihapitiya

I do not, no.

David Friedberg

Brigadoon. (laughs)

Chamath Palihapitiya

(laughs)

Jason Calacanis

I never- I've never even Briga-done.

David Friedberg

(laughs)

Chamath Palihapitiya

(laughs)

Jason Calacanis

I've never Briga-done.

David Friedberg

(laughs)

Chamath Palihapitiya

(laughs)

Jason Calacanis

I mean, I may have Briga-done once or twice from my burner account, but that's it. I mean...

Narrator

We're going all in. Don't let your winners ride. Rain man, David Sacks. We're going all in. As I said, we open sourced it to the fans and they have just gone crazy with it.

David Friedberg

Love you, West.

Jason Calacanis

Queen of quinoa.

Narrator

We're going all in.

Jason Calacanis

Well, anyway. Uh, Kanye West can't leave, uh, an amazing career alone and he is going to buy Parler, which apparently Candace Owens' husband, George Farmer, had created. So, he's going to buy his own social network. If you don't remember, Parler is like a sh- really shitty version of Twitter that never seems to have worked or been stable. It crashed the first 10 times I used it. Miraculously, this steaming pile of garbage had raised $56 million in funding, and Kanye's on a social media/media tour saying horrific antisemitic stuff. He seems to be having a mental breakdown again. Uh, there's a big discussion now, I guess, should people be platforming them to the point, um, that he's doing three, four, five hour interviews with people, and it does seem like it's acute mental illness/breakdown. I don't wanna, like, diagnose anybody, uh, from afar here, and I'm not qualified to do that now.

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