Sheryl Sandberg, plus open-source AI gene editing explained
Jason Calacanis (host), Chamath Palihapitiya (host), David Friedberg (host), David Sacks (host), Sheryl Sandberg (guest), Narrator
In this episode of All-In Podcast, featuring Jason Calacanis and Chamath Palihapitiya, Sheryl Sandberg, plus open-source AI gene editing explained explores sheryl Sandberg Confronts Hamas Rape Denial, Open-Source Gene Editing Emerges The episode features Sheryl Sandberg discussing her documentary *Screens Before Silence*, which documents sexual violence committed by Hamas on October 7th and the disturbing global denial that has followed. She describes traveling to Israel, interviewing first responders and a released hostage, and why most victims cannot speak: they were killed. The conversation broadens into campus protests, feminist organizations’ silence, antisemitism, and the need to hold two truths simultaneously: Israeli victims’ trauma and Palestinian civilian suffering. In a hard pivot, the hosts close with a technical segment on Profluent Bio’s open-source AI-designed CRISPR system and its implications for democratizing gene editing.
Sheryl Sandberg Confronts Hamas Rape Denial, Open-Source Gene Editing Emerges
The episode features Sheryl Sandberg discussing her documentary *Screens Before Silence*, which documents sexual violence committed by Hamas on October 7th and the disturbing global denial that has followed. She describes traveling to Israel, interviewing first responders and a released hostage, and why most victims cannot speak: they were killed. The conversation broadens into campus protests, feminist organizations’ silence, antisemitism, and the need to hold two truths simultaneously: Israeli victims’ trauma and Palestinian civilian suffering. In a hard pivot, the hosts close with a technical segment on Profluent Bio’s open-source AI-designed CRISPR system and its implications for democratizing gene editing.
Key Takeaways
Denial of sexual violence is being driven by rigid political narratives, not lack of evidence.
Sandberg argues that some activists view October 7th as legitimate ‘resistance’ and thus cannot integrate evidence of mass rape, genital mutilation, and torture into their worldview. ...
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Most sexual-violence victims from October 7th are dead, so testimony comes from first responders and a tiny number of survivors.
Critics ask ‘where are the victims,’ citing lack of living complainants or rape kits. ...
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Failure of feminist and human-rights organizations to speak clearly has damaged their credibility.
Sandberg notes some major feminist and human-rights NGOs did condemn the sexual violence, but others stayed silent or privately admitted they feared staff backlash if they acknowledged Hamas’s crimes. ...
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Universities are enabling escalation by failing to enforce their own rules while students seek identity through absolutist politics.
The hosts and Sandberg distinguish between legitimate ‘Free Palestine’ protests and chants like ‘We are Hamas’ or ‘Go back to Poland,’ which cross into hate and intimidation. ...
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Moral clarity requires holding two truths at once: condemning atrocities while empathizing with all civilian suffering.
Sandberg, Friedberg, and Calacanis repeatedly emphasize you can simultaneously be horrified by October 7th and deeply concerned about Palestinian civilians killed or starving in Gaza. ...
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Systematic documentation of atrocities is critical to counter mis/disinformation and shape historical understanding.
Drawing parallels to Holocaust documentation and the Sri Lankan civil war, Chamath stresses that thorough, credible evidence—eyewitness accounts, photos, structured archives—is the only way to move issues from ‘contested narrative’ into the realm of established fact. ...
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AI-designed, open-source CRISPR tools could profoundly democratize gene editing and reduce dependence on proprietary IP.
In the science segment, Friedberg explains how Profluent Bio trained a ‘protein language model’ on 26 terabases of genetic data to design novel Cas proteins not found in nature. ...
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Notable Quotes
“There are multiple sides to the Middle East story… There are not two sides on this. This is sexual violence. There is one side.”
— Sheryl Sandberg
“Where are the victims? They’re dead. That is why we called this film ‘Screens Before Silence.’”
— Sheryl Sandberg
“Screaming at each other’s not gonna get to progress. I don’t have an answer for peace in the Middle East, but we’re not gonna get there when we are apologizing for or denying crimes against humanity.”
— Sheryl Sandberg
“I’m totally in support of standing up for the things that you believe in. I’m not in support of overlooking atrocities.”
— Chamath Palihapitiya
“We basically created software engineering for DNA, for life, with this capability.”
— David Friedberg (on CRISPR)
Questions Answered in This Episode
For *Screens Before Silence*, what specific criteria did you use to vet eyewitness testimony so it would meet international legal standards for documenting war crimes?
The episode features Sheryl Sandberg discussing her documentary *Screens Before Silence*, which documents sexual violence committed by Hamas on October 7th and the disturbing global denial that has followed. ...
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If the organizations that hold the graphic October 7th photos eventually agree to release some, how would you structure that disclosure to maximize truth-telling while minimizing retraumatization and propaganda misuse?
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You mentioned some feminist and human-rights leaders privately agreed with you but feared staff backlash—what, concretely, would have to change in those organizations’ cultures for them to speak publicly next time?
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Looking at Harvard, Columbia, and similar campuses, what governance model or set of enforcement principles would you implement today to allow robust protest while drawing clear, consistently applied lines against intimidation and hate speech?
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On the CRISPR front, if open-source tools like OpenCRISPR-1 become as ubiquitous as Linux, what regulatory or ethical frameworks do we need now to prevent misuse of cheap, powerful gene editing outside formal labs?
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Transcript Preview
David Sacks had a last minute board meeting, so he will not be joining us.
I'll be David Sacks.
Please do your best impression.
Can you imagine? Hi, Jason.
Hello, sister. How are you?
Jason, do you know what I'm about to do? I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
Tell me.
Do you remember Fake Chamath?
Of course, yes. Do we have the login?
Do you know who that is, of course, right?
Oh, you're gonna reveal who Fake Chamath is? (laughs)
I'm revealing.
Oh, wow, it's a big reveal. I mean, if we-
Nine years later.
I gotta get... 90 years.
I want that handle. I- I would like to get that handle and give it to someone to be... I- I hand it to you, whoever you want.
Well, trust me, there's a lot of people who would love to have the Fake Chamath handle.
Well, how do I get it? Do I ask the Tw- can I ask Linda at Twitter for it?
Yeah.
I, you know, we might know somebody at Twitter who can reset the password.
Maybe you can help me. I'm so credible as the person who deserves that password.
Of all the people who've suffered spending time with Chamath, you're- you're at the top...
(laughs)
... of that list. If anybody has the right to, to mock Chamath, I mean, you've had to watch his growth over 20 years.
(laughs)
You've had to suffer.
I raised him. I raised Chamath and he raised me right back.
We're going all in.
Let your winners ride.
Rain Man David Sacks. I'm going all in.
And I said-
We open sourced it to the fans and they've just gone crazy with it.
Love you, man. Nice.
Queen of Kinwah. I'm going all in.
All right. Welcome back to the program, everybody. One of the guests we've always dreamed about having on the show is considered one of the great business operators of all time in Silicon Valley. For the past 20 years, Sheryl Sandberg was a key, some might say the key, piece in building the two largest advertising and technology companies in the world, Google and Facebook. Paradoxically, they- they don't go by those names anymore, Alphabet and Meta. When she joined Google in 2001, it had $20 million in revenue. They were private. And when she left in 2008, they had $22 billion in revenue. When she joined Facebook in 2008, it was at $270 million in revenue. When she left, it was at $117 billion. Market caps of those two companies have grown 100 billion and 950 billion during her tenures. And today, both are worth over $3 trillion combined, and are the number four and number seven market cap companies in the world. However, to our crew, she will always be bestie Dave Goldberg's dream girl, as he once described it to me. He told me he pursued her relentlessly until she finally gave in, dated, and then married him, and started a beautiful family together. Dave Goldberg passed away nine years ago this week, uh, in 2015. In an alternate universe, on a different timeline, Goldie would have been one of the four people on this panel 'cause he was the most wise, funny super mensch of the entire ten person core poker group, the original poker group. In fact, he was twice the man of any of us, which, given the low benchmark we've set-
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