Curing All Human Diseases & the Future of Health & Technology | Mark Zuckerberg & Dr. Priscilla Chan

Curing All Human Diseases & the Future of Health & Technology | Mark Zuckerberg & Dr. Priscilla Chan

Huberman LabOct 23, 20232h 15m

Andrew Huberman (host), Mark Zuckerberg (guest), Dr. Priscilla Chan (guest), Narrator, Narrator

Chan Zuckerberg Initiative’s mission to cure, prevent, or manage all diseasesCell biology, single-cell atlases, and AI-powered “virtual cells”New scientific tools: imaging, software platforms, Biohubs, and AI clustersMeta’s social platforms and mental health, especially for teensVR, AR, and mixed reality for exercise, education, and workRay-Ban Meta smart glasses and always-available AI assistantsEthics, safety, and future of AI personas and digital identity

In this episode of Huberman Lab, featuring Andrew Huberman and Mark Zuckerberg, Curing All Human Diseases & the Future of Health & Technology | Mark Zuckerberg & Dr. Priscilla Chan explores mark Zuckerberg, Priscilla Chan Map Radical Future Of Curing Disease Andrew Huberman speaks with Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Priscilla Chan about the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI) and its mission to help the scientific community cure, prevent, or manage all human disease by the end of the century.

Mark Zuckerberg, Priscilla Chan Map Radical Future Of Curing Disease

Andrew Huberman speaks with Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Priscilla Chan about the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (CZI) and its mission to help the scientific community cure, prevent, or manage all human disease by the end of the century.

They explain CZI’s strategy: fund collaborative basic science, build advanced hardware and software tools (including AI and imaging), and operate cross-institutional Biohubs that tackle grand biological challenges like cell atlases, inflammation, and engineered immune-cell ‘endoscopes.’

The conversation then shifts to Meta’s technologies—social media, VR, AR, and smart glasses—covering mental health impacts, safety and parental controls, and how mixed reality and AI assistants may transform education, exercise, and daily life.

Throughout, Zuckerberg and Chan emphasize optimism, long time horizons, and using engineering plus philanthropy to accelerate discovery, while leaving drug development and commercialization to the broader ecosystem.

Key Takeaways

CZI Focuses On Tools And Infrastructure, Not Owning All Discoveries

Chan and Zuckerberg are clear that CZI does not aim to personally cure every disease; instead, they want to greatly accelerate the entire scientific ecosystem by building tools (software, hardware, AI, Biohubs) and funding basic research. ...

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Single-Cell Biology Plus AI Is Reshaping How We Understand Disease

CZI invests heavily in single-cell RNA sequencing and tools like CellxGene to map how each cell type in the body interprets DNA. ...

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Biohubs Show The Power Of Cross-Institution, Cross-Discipline Teams

CZI Biohubs force collaboration across at least three institutions and multiple disciplines. ...

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Modern LLMs Are Best Used As Hypothesis Generators, Not Oracles

Zuckerberg emphasizes that current large language models hallucinate and shouldn’t be treated as ground truth. ...

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Social Media’s Impact Depends Heavily On *How* It’s Used

Zuckerberg distinguishes between social media as connection versus passive consumption. ...

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Mixed Reality Can Make Computing Physical, Social, And Health-Positive

The latest Quest headsets blend VR with live passthrough of the physical room, enabling engaging fitness (e. ...

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Always-On AI + Smart Glasses Could Redefine Daily Interaction With Tech

Ray-Ban Meta glasses combine camera, audio, and AI so users can capture moments, live-stream, or query an assistant (“Hey Meta…”) hands-free while staying present in real-world interactions. ...

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Notable Quotes

We don’t think at CZI that we’re going to cure, prevent, or manage all diseases. The goal is to give the scientific community the tools to accelerate the pace of science.

Mark Zuckerberg

Right now, say we have a recipe for a cake. We know there’s a typo in the recipe, and then the cake is awful. That’s all we know. We don’t know how the chef interprets the typo, we don’t know what happens in the oven… a lot of that is unknown.

Dr. Priscilla Chan

There’s this funny thing in basic science: we’ve basically cured every single disease in mice. But they are not humans.

Dr. Priscilla Chan

Optimists tend to be successful and pessimists tend to be right.

Mark Zuckerberg

My grandparents paired up their kids, one from each family, and sent them out on these little boats before the internet, before cell phones, and just said, ‘We’ll see you on the other side.’

Dr. Priscilla Chan

Questions Answered in This Episode

For the virtual cell project, what specific biological questions do you expect it to answer first that current lab methods struggle with (e.g., drug toxicity prediction, off-target effects, early cancer transformation)?

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How will the New York Biohub’s engineered immune ‘endoscopes’ be controlled and recalled in the body to avoid off-target damage or long-term safety issues?

They explain CZI’s strategy: fund collaborative basic science, build advanced hardware and software tools (including AI and imaging), and operate cross-institutional Biohubs that tackle grand biological challenges like cell atlases, inflammation, and engineered immune-cell ‘endoscopes.’

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Given the influence of recommendation algorithms on teen mental health, would Meta ever expose a public ‘nutrition label’ for feeds that quantifies positive vs. negative content exposure over time?

The conversation then shifts to Meta’s technologies—social media, VR, AR, and smart glasses—covering mental health impacts, safety and parental controls, and how mixed reality and AI assistants may transform education, exercise, and daily life.

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What safeguards will Meta put in place so that creator-linked AI personas cannot be used for deepfake scams, unauthorized endorsements, or medical/financial advice outside the creator’s expertise?

Throughout, Zuckerberg and Chan emphasize optimism, long time horizons, and using engineering plus philanthropy to accelerate discovery, while leaving drug development and commercialization to the broader ecosystem.

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If you succeed in dramatically accelerating basic science via tools and AI, how do you prevent the bottleneck simply moving downstream to regulation and clinical trials—and should CZI play any role there?

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Andrew Huberman

Welcome to the Huberman Lab podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life. I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. My guest today are Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Priscilla Chan. Mark Zuckerberg, as everybody knows, founded the company Facebook. He is now the CEO of Meta, which includes Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and other technology platforms. Dr. Priscilla Chan graduated from Harvard and went on to do her medical degree at the University of California San Francisco. Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Priscilla Chan are married and the co-founders of the CZI, or Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, a philanthropic organization whose stated goal is to cure all human diseases. The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative is accomplishing that by providing critical funding, not available elsewhere, as well as a novel framework for discovery of the basic functioning of cells, cataloging all the different human cell types, as well as providing AI or artificial intelligence platforms to mine all of that data to discover new pathways and cures for all human diseases. The first hour of today's discussion is held with both Dr. Priscilla Chan and Mark Zuckerberg, during which we discuss the CZI and what it really means to try and cure all human diseases. We talk about the motivational backbone for the CZI that extends well into each of their personal histories. Indeed, you'll learn quite a lot about Dr. Priscilla Chan, who has, I must say, an absolutely incredible family story leading up to her role as a physician and her motivations for the CZI and beyond, and you'll learn from Mark how he's bringing an engineering and AI perspective to discovery of new cures for human disease. The second half of today's discussion is just between Mark Zuckerberg and me, during which we discuss various Meta platforms, including of course social media platforms, and their effects on mental health in children and adults. We also discuss VR, virtual reality, as well as augmented and mixed reality, and we discuss AI, artificial intelligence, and how it stands to transform not just our online experiences with social media and other technologies, but how it stands to potentially transform every aspect of everyday life. Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize that this podcast is separate from my teaching and research roles at Stanford. It is, however, part of my desire and effort to bring zero cost to consumer information about science and science-related tools to the general public. In keeping with that theme, I'd like to thank the sponsors of today's podcast. Our first sponsor is Eight Sleep. 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We have limited tickets still available for the event in Melbourne on February 10th, as well as the event in Brisbane on February 24th. Our event in Sydney at the Sydney Opera House sold out very quickly, so as a consequence, we've now scheduled a second event in Sydney at the Aware Super Theatre on February 18th. To access tickets to any of these events, you can go to hubermanlab.com/events and use the code Huberman at checkout. I hope to see you there, and as always, thank you for your interest in science. And now for my discussion with Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Priscilla Chan. Priscilla, Mark, so great to meet you and thank you for having me here in your home.

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