How to Master Growth Mindset to Improve Performance | Dr. David Yeager

How to Master Growth Mindset to Improve Performance | Dr. David Yeager

Huberman LabApr 15, 20242h 26m

Andrew Huberman (host), Dr. David Yeager (guest)

Accurate definition and mechanisms of growth mindsetShort mindset interventions and long-term academic outcomesStress-is-enhancing mindset and challenge vs. threat physiologyEffort beliefs and reappraisal of struggle and failureMentor mindset: high-standards/high-support feedback (wise feedback)Purpose and contribution as motivators for effort and learningCulture of growth vs. culture of genius in organizations and schools

In this episode of Huberman Lab, featuring Andrew Huberman and Dr. David Yeager, How to Master Growth Mindset to Improve Performance | Dr. David Yeager explores harness Growth And Stress Mindsets To Turn Struggle Into Success Andrew Huberman interviews psychologist Dr. David Yeager about the science of growth mindset and the “stress can be performance‑enhancing” mindset, and how combining them improves learning and performance. Yeager explains what growth mindset actually is (and is not), how brief, well‑designed interventions create long‑term academic gains, and why effort beliefs and stress reappraisal are crucial missing pieces. They also explore mentor and organizational mindsets—how teachers, coaches, parents, and managers can give critical feedback that motivates rather than demoralizes. Throughout, Yeager emphasizes purpose and contribution as powerful drivers of persistence, especially for adolescents and people facing real setbacks.

Harness Growth And Stress Mindsets To Turn Struggle Into Success

Andrew Huberman interviews psychologist Dr. David Yeager about the science of growth mindset and the “stress can be performance‑enhancing” mindset, and how combining them improves learning and performance. Yeager explains what growth mindset actually is (and is not), how brief, well‑designed interventions create long‑term academic gains, and why effort beliefs and stress reappraisal are crucial missing pieces. They also explore mentor and organizational mindsets—how teachers, coaches, parents, and managers can give critical feedback that motivates rather than demoralizes. Throughout, Yeager emphasizes purpose and contribution as powerful drivers of persistence, especially for adolescents and people facing real setbacks.

Key Takeaways

Growth mindset is about potential under the right conditions, not “you can do anything if you try hard.”

Yeager defines growth mindset as the belief that abilities in a domain can change with the right conditions and support, not as magical thinking that effort alone guarantees success. ...

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Brief, well‑timed mindset interventions can create multi‑year academic gains when environments support growth.

In a large 2019 Nature study, two 20–25‑minute online growth‑mindset sessions for 9th graders led to better grades 8–9 months later, increased enrollment in advanced math by 10th grade, and unpublished data show higher rates of graduating high school with college‑ready coursework four years later. ...

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How you interpret stress physiology determines whether it helps or hurts performance.

Building on work by Alia Crum and Jeremy Jamieson, Yeager explains the “stress is debilitating” vs. ...

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Pairing growth mindset with stress‑reappraisal closes the loop from taking on challenges to staying with them.

Growth mindset encourages people to seek challenges and persist after setbacks; stress‑is‑enhancing mindsets help them tolerate and harness the inevitable arousal that comes with those challenges. ...

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High‑standards plus high‑support feedback (“wise feedback”) makes criticism motivating instead of crushing.

Drawing on Geoff Cohen and Claude Steele’s “mentor’s dilemma” work, Yeager shows that simply criticizing work often leads students to infer bias or rejection, while withholding criticism sacrifices growth. ...

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Purpose and contribution make effort and boredom feel meaningful, increasing persistence and learning.

In experiments with adolescents, framing schoolwork as a way to get good grades and make money in the future increased motivation less than framing it as gaining skills to help others or make a difference. ...

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Cultures of growth outperform “genius” cultures that reward ego and punishment.

Mary Murphy’s work (which Yeager cites) shows that organizations with a fixed “genius” culture—where intelligence is idolized and mistakes are punished—tend to foster defensiveness, reputation‑protection, and even unethical behavior (hiding errors). ...

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Notable Quotes

In a fixed mindset, your goal is to defend your ego. In a growth mindset, a mistake is just an opportunity to grow.

David Yeager

You can’t just abstractly tell someone ‘your brain is a muscle’ and assume that in the midst of stress and frustration, they’re going to immediately say, ‘Yes, I love doing this.’

David Yeager

If you were about to do well, you wouldn’t feel this way—that’s the belief people have about stress. And it’s wrong.

David Yeager

We’re not giving someone motivation in a growth mindset intervention. We’re presuming people already want to do well, and we’re trying to remove the garbage beliefs they’ve learned that get in the way.

David Yeager

The person who knows the ‘why’ for their existence is able to bear almost any ‘how.’

David Yeager (quoting Viktor Frankl and applying it to his data)

Questions Answered in This Episode

In your large 2019 Nature study, what specific classroom or school practices distinguished the “supportive” environments where the growth mindset intervention had the biggest four‑year effects?

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When combining growth mindset with a stress‑is‑enhancing intervention, what exact language or exercises do you use to help students reinterpret their racing heart and anxiety as resources rather than warning signs?

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How should a teacher or parent respond in the moment when a teenager explicitly rejects the idea that they can improve in a domain because they see that belief as invalidating their past struggles or current identity?

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For managers trying to shift a team from a ‘genius’ culture to a ‘growth’ culture, what are the first three concrete changes you would recommend in feedback, evaluation, and meeting structure to reduce defensiveness and hidden errors?

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Your work on purpose shows that contribution framing can make teens choose boring math over online entertainment; how might we adapt that paradigm for adults stuck in unfulfilling jobs who feel their effort no longer makes a meaningful difference to anyone?

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Transcript Preview

Andrew Huberman

Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life. I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. My guest today is Dr. David Yeager. Dr. David Yeager is a professor of psychology at the University of Texas at Austin and one of the world's leading researchers into mindsets, in particular growth mindset, which is a mindset that enables people of all ages to improve their abilities at essentially anything. He is also a world expert into the "stress is performance-enhancing" mindset, which is a mindset that allows people to cognitively reframe stress, and that when combined with growth mindset can lead to dramatic improvements in performance in cognitive and physical endeavors. Dr. Yeager is also the author of an important and extremely useful new book entitled Ten to Twenty-Five: The Science of Motivating Young People. The book is scheduled for release this summer, that is the summer of 2024. And we provided a link to the book in the show note captions. During today's discussion, Dr. Yeager explains to us exactly what growth mindset is through the lens of the research into growth mindset, and he explains also how to apply growth mindset in our lives. He also shares the research from his and other laboratories on the "stress can be performance-enhancing" mindset and how that can be combined with growth mindset to achieve the maximum results. So while I assume that most people have heard of growth mindset, today's discussion will allow you to really apply it in your life, not just from the perspective of you, the person trying to learn, but also for teachers and coaches. In fact, Dr. Yeager shares not just the optimal learning environments for us as individuals, but also between individuals and in the classroom, in families, in sports teams, and in groups of all sizes and kinds. Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize that this podcast is separate from my teaching and research roles at Stanford. It is, however, part of my desire and effort to bring zero-cost-to-consumer information about science and science-related tools to the general public. In keeping with that theme, I'd like to thank the sponsors of today's podcast. Our first sponsor is AeroPress. AeroPress is like a French press, but a French press that always brews the perfect cup of coffee, meaning no bitterness and excellent taste. AeroPress achieves this because it uses a very short contact time between the hot water and the coffee, and that short contact time also means that you can brew an excellent cup of coffee very quickly. The whole thing takes only about three minutes. I started using an AeroPress over 10 years ago, and I learned about it from a guy named Alan Adler, who's a former Stanford engineer who's also an inventor. He developed things like the Aerobie Frisbee. In any event, I'm a big fan of Adler inventions, and when I heard he developed a coffee maker, the AeroPress, I tried it, and I found that indeed it makes the best possible tasting cup of coffee. It's also extremely small and portable. So I started using it in the laboratory, when I travel on the road, and also at home. And I'm not alone in my love of the AeroPress coffee maker. With over 55,000 five-star reviews, AeroPress is the best-reviewed coffee press in the world. If you'd like to try AeroPress, you can go to aeropress.com/huberman to get 20% off. AeroPress currently ships in the USA, Canada, and to over 60 other countries around the world. Again, that's aeropress.com/huberman. Today's episode is also brought to us by ROKA. ROKA makes eyeglasses and sunglasses that are of the absolute highest quality. Now, I've spent a lifetime working on the biology of the visual system, and I can tell you that your visual system has to contend with an enormous number of different challenges in order for you to be able to see clearly. ROKA understands this and has developed their eyeglasses and sunglasses so that regardless of the conditions you're in, you always see with the utmost clarity. ROKA eyeglasses and sunglasses were initially designed for use in sport, in particular things like running and cycling. Now as a consequence, ROKA frames are extremely lightweight, so much so that most of the time you don't even remember that they're on your face. They're also designed so that they don't slip off if you get sweaty. Now even though they were initially designed for performance in sport, they now have many different frames and styles, all of which can be used in sport but also when out to dinner, at work, essentially any time and in any setting. If you'd like to try ROKA glasses, you can go to ROKA, that's roka.com, and enter the code Huberman to get 20% off. Again, that's roka.com and enter the code Huberman to get 20% off. And now for my discussion with Dr. David Yeager. Dr. David Yeager, welcome.

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