Joe Rogan Experience #1580 - Andrew Schulz

Joe Rogan Experience #1580 - Andrew Schulz

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 27, 20242h 52m

Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Andrew Schulz (guest), Jamie Vernon (guest), Narrator, Andrew Schulz (guest), Narrator, Narrator

Schulz’s pandemic pivot: building Netflix show and online specialsComedy, cancel culture, and saying taboo things on big platformsMedia bias, political theater, and social justice branding (BLM, defund the police, socialism)COVID responses, lockdown policies, and government hypocrisyCombat sports culture: boxing, MMA, Jake/Logan Paul, Mayweather, McGregor, Adesanya, KhabibWealth, power, and influence: tech billionaires, Theranos, Hollywood, ScientologySystemic issues: student loan debt, healthcare, education, and economic “fakeness”

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Narrator, Joe Rogan Experience #1580 - Andrew Schulz explores andrew Schulz on Comedy, Controversy, Hustle, and a Broken America Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz spend a long, freewheeling conversation talking about how Schulz used the pandemic to reinvent his comedy through fast‑cut, highly produced social and Netflix content, and what it took behind the scenes to make it work.

Andrew Schulz on Comedy, Controversy, Hustle, and a Broken America

Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz spend a long, freewheeling conversation talking about how Schulz used the pandemic to reinvent his comedy through fast‑cut, highly produced social and Netflix content, and what it took behind the scenes to make it work.

They dive deep into cancel culture, media narratives, identity politics, COVID policies, and the way politicians, legacy media, and social platforms manipulate public perception.

A large portion centers on combat sports and spectacle—Jake Paul, Conor McGregor, Mayweather, Adesanya, Khabib—and how trolling, promotion, and real skill intersect in modern fighting.

They close by unpacking structural issues like student debt, healthcare, political hypocrisy, and why independent creators and podcasters have displaced traditional institutions as trusted voices.

Key Takeaways

Use chaos as an opportunity to create new formats.

Schulz describes how he mentally treated the pandemic as something he and his team would “win,” doubling down on building a studio and inventing a high-density, news‑driven comedy format rather than waiting for clubs to reopen.

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High joke density and platform-native pacing matter online.

Instead of pausing for laughs like a live set, Schulz packs punchlines into every line, using filler words (“now”) and rapid editing so the viewer is never waiting—something Rogan contrasts with awkward Zoom monologues.

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Independent leverage lets you resist corporate creative control.

Because Schulz had already proven audience demand on YouTube and social media, Netflix gave him near-total freedom; the only meaningful note was removing a potentially defamatory STD line about Stormy Daniels.

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Media and politics are increasingly driven by branding, not truth.

They argue that networks, politicians, and activists chase clicks and tribal approval rather than accuracy, using wedge issues (voter fraud, defund the police, socialism) as marketing hooks that alienate the broad middle.

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Spectacle and trolling now drive combat sports economics.

Rogan and Schulz break down how Jake and Logan Paul blend genuine training with calculated provocation—calling out McGregor, Diaz, Danis—to manufacture huge paydays that traditional fighters and promoters can’t ignore.

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Structural economic problems are real, even if the money is ‘fake.’

They frame student debt, healthcare costs, and money-printing as symptoms of a system where debt is abstract at a macro level but brutally concrete for individuals—like retirees having Social Security docked for old loans.

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Competent, hungry collaborators are more valuable than résumés.

Schulz explains that his core team were an intern, a self-taught editor, a lawyer friend, and a little-known comic; what mattered was competence, shared standards, and a willingness to work 100-hour weeks to ship something exceptional.

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Notable Quotes

When the shutdown happened, I told the guys, ‘We’ll win. Guaranteed.’

Andrew Schulz

I’m never married to my opinions. If I get something wrong, I have to say it.

Joe Rogan

They’re just the newest liar. Every four years we get the newest liar.

Andrew Schulz (on politicians)

Talking shit is an integral part of being a man.

Joe Rogan

I don’t care about your credits. Are you competent, and will you stay up all night with me?

Andrew Schulz

Questions Answered in This Episode

How much of Schulz’s success is replicable for other comics, and how much depends on his specific mix of risk tolerance, timing, and team?

Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz spend a long, freewheeling conversation talking about how Schulz used the pandemic to reinvent his comedy through fast‑cut, highly produced social and Netflix content, and what it took behind the scenes to make it work.

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Are Rogan and Schulz underestimating the potential harm of normalizing ultra-provocative humor on massive platforms, or is that risk overstated?

They dive deep into cancel culture, media narratives, identity politics, COVID policies, and the way politicians, legacy media, and social platforms manipulate public perception.

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What would a realistic, politically viable healthcare and student-debt plan look like that incorporates their critiques but avoids the pitfalls of ‘democratic socialism’ branding?

A large portion centers on combat sports and spectacle—Jake Paul, Conor McGregor, Mayweather, Adesanya, Khabib—and how trolling, promotion, and real skill intersect in modern fighting.

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To what extent are figures like Jake Paul good or bad for combat sports in the long term—do they elevate the sport or distort it into pure spectacle?

They close by unpacking structural issues like student debt, healthcare, political hypocrisy, and why independent creators and podcasters have displaced traditional institutions as trusted voices.

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Is the loss of trust in institutions (media, universities, government) a healthy correction or a dangerous slide toward total cynicism, and what replaces those institutions as shared sources of truth?

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Joe Rogan

(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Narrator

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Andrew.

Andrew Schulz

Hi, Joe.

Joe Rogan

What's up, brother? How are you?

Andrew Schulz

I'm good, man. How you doing?

Joe Rogan

Are you going no headphones? I'll go no headphones too.

Andrew Schulz

I always go no headphones, man.

Joe Rogan

Why is that? Why no headphones?

Andrew Schulz

I don't know. It just... It- it locks me in, in a weird way.

Joe Rogan

In a weird way?

Andrew Schulz

Yeah, the headphones, I don't know, I don't feel like I'm talking to you.

Joe Rogan

Like-

Andrew Schulz

Now, like, I feel like we're having a conversation and there's just the microphone in the way.

Joe Rogan

Okay.

Andrew Schulz

But this feels like it's on the phone.

Joe Rogan

Yeah, I noticed on your show, you never do headphones-

Andrew Schulz

No.

Joe Rogan

... on any of your podcasts.

Andrew Schulz

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

No headphones.

Andrew Schulz

Never.

Joe Rogan

Okay.

Andrew Schulz

It is what it is.

Joe Rogan

Okay. Dude, your show is fucking badass.

Andrew Schulz

Mm.

Joe Rogan

That Netflix show is very, very good.

Andrew Schulz

Did you watch it?

Joe Rogan

You are... Yes, I did.

Andrew Schulz

Let's go.

Joe Rogan

You- you are i-... my favorite example of someone who took this pandemic and fucking rose through it. You- you elevated through it. You- you raised your stock while all the comedy clubs are shut down-

Andrew Schulz

Mm.

Joe Rogan

... no one's out... Everybody else is, like, trying to figure out what to do, they're doing Zoom standup, which is-

Andrew Schulz

(laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan

... which lowers you.

Andrew Schulz

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

Look, because people get to see your standup, like, it's gross.

Andrew Schulz

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

You know? You- you figured out how to do it, man. You really did and you did it in a- a multimedia presentation form that really other people weren't doing, man.

Andrew Schulz

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

You fucking nailed it. It was awesome.

Andrew Schulz

Thank you, man. Thank you. And thank you for being so supportive, man. Like those videos popped off because you started reposting them, so-

Joe Rogan

Oh, my pleasure.

Andrew Schulz

... I'm very grateful.

Joe Rogan

I love when people just get after it. I love that you do that-

Andrew Schulz

Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan

... you hustle.

Andrew Schulz

Yeah, like it-

Joe Rogan

You work hard.

Andrew Schulz

Yeah, obviously it's super tragic, Corona and everything like that. But like, when... I don't know, for some reason I kind of thrive in chaos. I don't know if that's like a New York thing but like I... When it happened, the- part of me was like, "Oh, yeah, we're going to win."

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Andrew Schulz

We- we... Literally, I remember I told the guys, right, that I was like, when they said everything is getting shut down, I go, "We'll win, guaranteed." We had just put the studio in there, like I paid all this money to do the studio and I had no clue how I was gonna like make the money back. It was like, you know when like the- the colonizers or whatever, like they'd stop on the island and then they'd like burn the ships?

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