Joe Rogan Experience #1373 - Kyle Kulinski

Joe Rogan Experience #1373 - Kyle Kulinski

The Joe Rogan ExperienceOct 30, 20192h 19m

Joe Rogan (host), Kyle Kulinski (guest), Guest (guest), Guest (guest), Guest (guest)

Persecution of whistleblowers and the case of Julian Assange and Chelsea ManningDrone warfare, U.S. foreign interventions, and Africa’s ‘shadow wars’Great‑power competition: U.S. empire, China’s Belt and Road, and corporate–state fusionSystemic political corruption: campaign finance, lobbying, and the military‑industrial complexMedia manipulation, Russiagate, and foreign social media influence operationsU.S. healthcare, Medicare for All, and student debt as structural economic trapsDirect democracy, party reform, and the populist vs. elitist divide in American politics

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Kyle Kulinski, Joe Rogan Experience #1373 - Kyle Kulinski explores kyle Kulinski Dissects U.S. Power, War, Corruption, and Democracy Reform Kyle Kulinski joins Joe Rogan to unpack U.S. foreign policy, the deep state, and how both parties enable war, empire, and corporate power while ignoring public will.

Kyle Kulinski Dissects U.S. Power, War, Corruption, and Democracy Reform

Kyle Kulinski joins Joe Rogan to unpack U.S. foreign policy, the deep state, and how both parties enable war, empire, and corporate power while ignoring public will.

They discuss whistleblowers like Assange and Manning, drone warfare, secret wars in Africa, and the bipartisan military‑industrial complex that profits from endless conflict.

Kulinski contrasts U.S. corporate imperialism with China’s Belt and Road strategy, critiques systemic corruption via lobbying and campaign finance, and explains how media narratives (Russiagate, social media psy‑ops) distort real policy debates.

He argues for Medicare for All, student debt cancellation, and a national direct‑democracy mechanism so citizens can vote directly on core issues, bypassing captured political elites.

Key Takeaways

Whistleblowers who expose U.S. war crimes are punished to deter future leaks.

Kulinski describes how Assange’s exposure of the ‘Collateral Murder’ video and Manning’s refusal to testify against him are met with extreme legal and financial pressure, signaling that revealing state crimes is treated as espionage rather than public service.

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Drone warfare and undeclared wars have normalized civilian casualties and constitutional violations.

They note Obama’s high civilian death rates and Trump’s 400%+ increase in drone strikes, often without formal war declarations or public debate, turning extrajudicial killing into a background feature of U. ...

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U.S. and Chinese empires use different but equally strategic methods to secure resources and influence.

While the U. ...

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Corporate money structurally distorts U.S. politics, regardless of party.

From Saudi payments at Trump’s D. ...

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Media and political elites over‑emphasize narratives like Russiagate while ignoring core policy failures.

He criticizes how Russia’s troll operations are used to delegitimize anti‑war or anti‑establishment voices and to avoid addressing material issues like wages, healthcare, and foreign policy, even though the U. ...

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Medicare for All would cut out a costly middleman and expand coverage.

Kulinski contends that replacing private insurers with a single public payer (plus optional supplemental insurance) would save trillions over a decade by eliminating profit‑seeking intermediaries, while guaranteeing comprehensive care including dental and vision.

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Direct democracy on key national issues could bypass corrupt elites and align policy with public will.

His proposal for nationwide ballot initiatives on 3–5 core issues every presidential election—such as legalizing marijuana or ending specific wars—aims to let citizens legislate directly on questions where overwhelming majorities already agree.

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Notable Quotes

They will throw the book at you and act like you're a spy… because they wanna keep that stuff under wraps; it really shows what U.S. empire is doing around the world.

Kyle Kulinski (on Julian Assange and war crimes)

When you look at foreign policy, it’s not just one person making all the decisions. It’s generals, it’s people at the CIA, and this complex web of people… that ends up being drastically negative.

Kyle Kulinski

It's a big club and you ain't in it.

Kyle Kulinski (quoting George Carlin on elite control of politics)

Politics would be beautiful if we actually disagreed on the substance and let people decide, instead of having elections run on competing special interests.

Kyle Kulinski

We’re a community. We’ve got to take care of each other.

Joe Rogan (on the logic behind universal healthcare and debt relief)

Questions Answered in This Episode

How realistic is Kulinski’s national direct‑ballot initiative idea within the current constitutional and party framework, and what safeguards would be needed against propaganda and corporate capture?

Kyle Kulinski joins Joe Rogan to unpack U. ...

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If the U.S. were to pivot away from militarized foreign policy, what concrete steps could unwind the military‑industrial complex without causing massive economic dislocation?

They discuss whistleblowers like Assange and Manning, drone warfare, secret wars in Africa, and the bipartisan military‑industrial complex that profits from endless conflict.

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Given how both U.S. and foreign actors manipulate social media, what reforms—if any—should be implemented to protect democratic discourse without stifling free speech?

Kulinski contrasts U. ...

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How could a transition to Medicare for All be structured to address legitimate concerns about job losses in the private insurance sector while still achieving cost savings?

He argues for Medicare for All, student debt cancellation, and a national direct‑democracy mechanism so citizens can vote directly on core issues, bypassing captured political elites.

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Is there a viable political path for an anti‑war, anti‑corruption populist movement that can transcend the traditional left–right divide, or will existing parties inevitably absorb and dilute it?

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Joe Rogan

Boop, here we go. Hello, Kyle.

Kyle Kulinski

Hey, man. What's going on?

Joe Rogan

What's going on, buddy?

Kyle Kulinski

Good to see you again.

Joe Rogan

Good to see you in your wonderful pink shirt.

Kyle Kulinski

Yeah. It's, uh, it's confident, right?

Joe Rogan

Pink and gray, it's like you're, you're confident, you got a lot of shit going on.

Kyle Kulinski

Yeah. The lowdown on this though is, uh, I was supposed to get this dry cleaned when I was in Tennessee for Politicon, which was just a few days ago, and then even when I got here. I was like, "I gotta get this dry cleaned, go on Rogan show." Of course I didn't, but it doesn't look too wrinkly.

Joe Rogan

It looks good.

Kyle Kulinski

Thanks, man.

Joe Rogan

It looks very good.

Kyle Kulinski

Appreciate it.

Joe Rogan

So, tell me what you were saying right when I walked in. I said, "Hold this thought." You were, you were saying that Chelsea Manning is locked up and they're charging her $1,000 a day.

Kyle Kulinski

Yeah. Chelsea Manning is locked up right now because they wanted her to say more stuff against Julian Assange. She's refusing to do it, and they're fining her, I think, it's over $1,000 a day. So that shows you, you know... 'Cause before that, we were talking about Snowden.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Kyle Kulinski

And that shows you that they do not mess around when they feel like you're uncovering their BS.

Joe Rogan

Yeah. Now, what are they trying to get from Julian Assange? Like, what do they have on him?

Kyle Kulinski

Well, Julian Assange, there's a, there's a couple reasons why they despise him. But, um, he has no political home right now, particularly because it used to be Democrats that defended him.

Joe Rogan

Right.

Kyle Kulinski

But then he pissed off the Democrats because he leaked on the DNC-

Joe Rogan

Right.

Kyle Kulinski

... and he showed, you know, what was going on with Hillary behind the scenes-

Joe Rogan

Mm-hmm.

Kyle Kulinski

... and how the primary was basically rigged against Bernie Sanders. So Democrats used to like him, now Democrats hate him. And Trump used to like him when he said, uh, when he was getting this information on Hillary, but they hate him as well because Trump has basically been convinced by the people around him in the White House that this guy is dangerous because this guy basically exposed US war crimes. That's why they're coming after him, because he released a video which showed that we were killing civilians and then we circled back around and did what's called a double tap where we killed the first responders. And the idea at the time was, "Oh, it's okay, we're going after Al-Qaeda." But come to find out that wasn't Al-Qaeda, they were innocent civilians, and then there were the medics that came afterwards. And so Julian Assange thought, "Hey, listen. This is not something we should be doing and the American people deserve to know about this. This shouldn't be top secret. This is a war crime." And so he released that, and then that's why they're coming after him and throwing the book at him. Because, you know, just like with, um, Mike Revell previously... Daniel Ellsberg actually is who I'm thinking of. Just like with Daniel Ellsberg when he, uh, showed the, what we were doing in Vietnam and how we were killing civilians, they do not want you to expose their war crimes. They will throw the book at you and act like you're a, a spy, you're working for a foreign country, you're a traitor. Because they wanna keep that stuff under wraps because it really embarrasses them and it really shows what US empire is doing around the world.

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