JRE MMA Show #106 with Leon Edwards

JRE MMA Show #106 with Leon Edwards

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 27, 20242h 5m

Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Leon Edwards (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Leon Edwards’ recent layoff, Belal Muhammad eye injury, and title-shot debateTraining philosophy: no head coach, sparring approach, and skill developmentMindset evolution from “just winning” to seeking finishes and damageHype, promotion, and matchmaking politics in the UFC welterweight divisionTechnical striking discussion: calf kicks, front kicks, spinning back kicks, elbowsCareer longevity, CTE concerns, sparring intensity, and rule-set issues (knees, elbows, gloves)Edwards’ background: family, gang environment, knife crime, and community charity work

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Narrator, JRE MMA Show #106 with Leon Edwards explores leon Edwards Discusses Adversity, Mindset Shifts, And Title Aspirations Leon Edwards joins Joe Rogan to unpack his turbulent recent years: canceled fights, COVID, the Belal Muhammad no-contest, and the stalled Khamzat Chimaev matchup, all while sitting on a long unbeaten streak at welterweight.

Leon Edwards Discusses Adversity, Mindset Shifts, And Title Aspirations

Leon Edwards joins Joe Rogan to unpack his turbulent recent years: canceled fights, COVID, the Belal Muhammad no-contest, and the stalled Khamzat Chimaev matchup, all while sitting on a long unbeaten streak at welterweight.

He explains how the layoff forced a shift from ‘fighting to win’ to ‘fighting to hurt,’ refining his skill set, mindset, and training structure without a traditional head coach.

The conversation ranges widely across MMA culture: hype and promotion, sparring philosophies, weight cutting, rule debates, and technical striking—especially kicks and elbows.

Edwards also opens up about his upbringing around gang violence in Jamaica and Birmingham, his father’s murder, and his motivation to become UFC champion as a role model for at‑risk youth in the UK.

Key Takeaways

Use downtime and setbacks as structured growth periods.

Edwards turned a year-and-a-half of canceled fights into focused improvement—rebuilding skills, mindset, and conditioning instead of fixating on matchmaking politics he couldn’t control.

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Define a clear competitive mindset, not just a game plan.

He consciously shifted from ‘fighting to win on points’ to ‘fighting to hurt and finish,’ which changed how he trains, how he takes risks, and how he views his path to a title.

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Build a decentralized coaching structure that fits your style.

Rather than a single head coach, Edwards uses specialized coaches (striking, wrestling, S&C), synthesizes their input, and vetoes tactics that don’t feel natural—showing one size doesn’t fit all in elite preparation.

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Train hard but intelligently: listen to your body and manage sparring.

He sparrs hard only in camp, mixes in lighter technical rounds, and takes days off when his body feels depleted—aiming to preserve longevity and avoid the constant-damage model that ruined some careers.

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Winning isn’t enough—visibility and narrative matter in combat sports.

Despite a long unbeaten streak, Edwards’ low-profile persona and bad luck kept him under the radar; he discusses balancing authenticity with the promotional reality that hype and personality sell fights.

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Technical nuance can transform familiar weapons like kicks and elbows.

They dissect calf kicks, front kicks to the face, spinning back kicks, and clinch elbows, emphasizing timing, setups, and reading habits (like where opponents look or how they enter range) rather than just raw power.

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Personal hardship can be converted into long-term resilience and purpose.

Growing up around gangs, losing his father to gun violence, and seeing friends killed by knives shaped Edwards’ mental toughness and his drive to succeed publicly so he can inspire and actively support at-risk youth.

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Notable Quotes

“I’m not fighting to win no more. I’ve won enough… I’m fighting to hurt them.”

Leon Edwards

“If you work hard and you win, they can’t deny you.”

Leon Edwards

“You’ve been, like, the best-kept secret in the division.”

Joe Rogan

“I used that time off to grow… I can’t control Masvidal or Colby not fighting me, but I can control turning up to training.”

Leon Edwards

“Coming from the UK, everyone tells you, ‘You can’t wrestle,’ and I’m proving it fight by fight.”

Leon Edwards

Questions Answered in This Episode

Has the eye-poke no-contest with Belal Muhammad permanently changed how Leon thinks about finishing urgency and risk-taking early in fights?

Leon Edwards joins Joe Rogan to unpack his turbulent recent years: canceled fights, COVID, the Belal Muhammad no-contest, and the stalled Khamzat Chimaev matchup, all while sitting on a long unbeaten streak at welterweight.

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Could Edwards’ ‘no head coach’ model become more common among elite fighters, or does it depend on a very specific personality and experience level?

He explains how the layoff forced a shift from ‘fighting to win’ to ‘fighting to hurt,’ refining his skill set, mindset, and training structure without a traditional head coach.

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What specific technical or tactical adjustments would Leon prioritize for a rematch with Kamaru Usman compared to their first fight?

The conversation ranges widely across MMA culture: hype and promotion, sparring philosophies, weight cutting, rule debates, and technical striking—especially kicks and elbows.

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How much should matchmaking reward merit (win streaks, skill) versus marketability (hype, personality) in divisions like welterweight?

Edwards also opens up about his upbringing around gang violence in Jamaica and Birmingham, his father’s murder, and his motivation to become UFC champion as a role model for at‑risk youth in the UK.

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Given his background and charity work, how might Leon’s eventual retirement role as a coach or mentor reshape the UK MMA scene and youth violence interventions?

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Joe Rogan

(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Leon, what's up?

Leon Edwards

I'm good. How are you?

Joe Rogan

I'm... Dude, uh, first of all, fun hanging with you last night.

Leon Edwards

It was a good night.

Joe Rogan

It was good time.

Leon Edwards

Definitely the first time seeing you, um, live. I, I was saying to my, my man- manager, he's so eff- effortless. He's, like, talking, right, but it's still funny. It was like, if you can approach fighting like that, like make it eff- e- um, effortless, then that... You're doing a good job.

Joe Rogan

Well, I think some guys can at certain stages, right? Like, there's moments in fights where... Don't you feel like you're in a zone sometimes and it just... Everything's flowing?

Leon Edwards

Saturday night.

Joe Rogan

Saturday night, yeah.

Leon Edwards

Saturday night, I'm like, I felt good. All backstage 'cause, um, leading up to the fight everyone's like, "Ring rust, ring rust." So I was kinda waiting for some feeling to say, "Where's ring rust?" Right? But I felt great backstage and I preferred fighting with, with no crowd.

Joe Rogan

Did you really?

Leon Edwards

Yeah. I, I... 'Cause y- you get, you get to the, to the apex and it's like you get there, you wrap your hands, you warm up, you fight. There's no hanging around for five hours backstage and just... It's like a gym, right? You just... You get there, you warm, then you just go compete, so I, I preferred it for sure.

Joe Rogan

Did you prefer it because of the- there's no noise, no distractions, no nothing?

Leon Edwards

And you can hear your coaches clearly.

Joe Rogan

Oh, yeah.

Leon Edwards

Yeah?

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Leon Edwards

Instructions clearly and-

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Leon Edwards

I'm, I'm, I'm a very good listener to my coaches, so I wouldn't say I prefer it, but it was... I, it was good. I enjoyed it.

Joe Rogan

You have been in a very interesting position over the last few years where you are one of the top UFC welterler- uh, welterweights. But just be- be- because of bad fortune, just things just haven't totally lined up correctly.

Leon Edwards

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

Fights have fallen apart, injuries and sicknesses and a bunch of shit went down and you're... Until Saturday night you, you had been kind of ignored by a lot of fans.

Leon Edwards

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

Like, a lot of people don't understand what level you're at. They don't understand. I think they saw it for the brief moment-

Leon Edwards

That happened.

Joe Rogan

... that you fought Saturday night, but then unfortunately there's the injury. You know?

Narrator

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

Belal has the accidental eye poke and it's another, you know, another unfortunate situation. But at least during that l-

Leon Edwards

First round?

Joe Rogan

Yeah, the first round, they got to see your skill level.

Leon Edwards

Yeah, for sure. And I was just getting warmed up as well. I got... Over the last year and a half I've learned so much that I, I wanted to show and to have that, that incident happen, it's like... It's one in a million, right? When you, when you prepare, when you camp, you're like, "I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that." And then when that happened I was like... I thought... I thought it was like, "Okay, take five minutes. Let it, let it, let it, let it play out a little bit and then hopefully you can fight again." But he just... He's always that bad

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