
Joe Rogan Experience #2317 - Cody Tucker
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In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #2317 - Cody Tucker explores joe Rogan And Cody Tucker Dive Into History, AI, Giants, And Dinosaurs Joe Rogan interviews historian‑content creator Cody Tucker on the day Tucker’s book *And Now You Know* is released, exploring how he turned obscure historical facts into viral Instagram videos and a career. Their wide‑ranging conversation jumps from podcast origins and internet culture to nicotine, data privacy, AI psy‑ops, and driverless cars. They unpack dark and bizarre history—KKK splinter groups, MKUltra, Liberia’s cannibal warlords, medical corruption, overeager oncologists, and historical oddities like people surviving executions or eating preserved royal hearts. The episode repeatedly returns to big-picture themes: how little we truly know about ancient history, how malleable public belief is in the age of AI and bots, and how future tech (genetic engineering, transhumanism, resurrected species) could radically change what it means to be human.
Joe Rogan And Cody Tucker Dive Into History, AI, Giants, And Dinosaurs
Joe Rogan interviews historian‑content creator Cody Tucker on the day Tucker’s book *And Now You Know* is released, exploring how he turned obscure historical facts into viral Instagram videos and a career. Their wide‑ranging conversation jumps from podcast origins and internet culture to nicotine, data privacy, AI psy‑ops, and driverless cars. They unpack dark and bizarre history—KKK splinter groups, MKUltra, Liberia’s cannibal warlords, medical corruption, overeager oncologists, and historical oddities like people surviving executions or eating preserved royal hearts. The episode repeatedly returns to big-picture themes: how little we truly know about ancient history, how malleable public belief is in the age of AI and bots, and how future tech (genetic engineering, transhumanism, resurrected species) could radically change what it means to be human.
Key Takeaways
Organic authenticity can still beat algorithmic clout‑chasing.
Tucker built his audience by telling strange, well‑researched stories without begging for likes or chasing virality, echoing Rogan’s claim that his show grew purely by word of mouth—not by aggressive self‑promotion.
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AI‑driven manipulation is already warping online debate.
The Zurich 'Dead Internet' Reddit experiment showed how AI chatbots can pose as real people—including vulnerable identities—and tailor arguments using users’ histories, underscoring how fragile online discourse has become.
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Our medical systems often incentivize profit over patient well‑being.
They discuss oncologists giving chemotherapy to healthy patients, OxyContin’s marketing, vaccine and prescription incentives, and ADHD meds for kids, showing how structural incentives can drive overtreatment and abuse.
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People trade enormous privacy and control for convenience.
From Uber’s arbitration clauses and foreign legal jurisdictions to Google’s data collection and driverless cars, Rogan and Tucker highlight how willingly we surrender rights and data in exchange for cheap rides, search, and automation.
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Ancient myths may be distorted echoes of real events.
Flood myths (Noah, Gilgamesh), Atlantis‑like structures in Mauritania, Amazonian cities hidden by jungle, and recurring giant legends suggest that some 'myths' may preserve garbled memories of lost civilizations and cataclysms.
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Genetic engineering is poised to transform what humans are.
Experiments like inserting tardigrade DNA into human cells, gene‑edited babies in China, and companies resurrecting dire wolves hint at a future where 'super‑soldiers' or engineered humans and dinosaurs are technically feasible.
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Curiosity plus good storytelling can make complex history accessible.
Tucker’s approach—digging through obscure sources for the strangest, most human details (e. ...
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Notable Quotes
““I could care less about having anyone know who the fuck I am… which, granted, here I am.””
— Cody Tucker
““If you go down the CIA rabbit hole, you’ll find a city. Like a civilization stuck in it.””
— Joe Rogan
““Getting drunk is you just buying happiness from tomorrow.””
— Cody Tucker (paraphrasing a quote he likes)
““We are allowing them to come to get us. We’re paying for them. We’re psyched. We’re like, ‘Whoa, this is cool.’””
— Joe Rogan, on autonomous tech and AI
““You can’t be an expert in the entire history of the human race… we don’t have all the information, so you’re bullshitting.””
— Joe Rogan
Questions Answered in This Episode
How should platforms and researchers ethically study persuasion and belief online without deceiving or destabilizing real communities?
Joe Rogan interviews historian‑content creator Cody Tucker on the day Tucker’s book *And Now You Know* is released, exploring how he turned obscure historical facts into viral Instagram videos and a career. ...
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At what point does genetic engineering for resilience or performance cross the line into creating an entirely new category of human?
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What responsibility do doctors and regulators have to redesign incentives that currently reward overtreatment and pharmaceutical dependence?
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How can non‑experts realistically distinguish between legitimate historical revision (like new evidence on Atlantis or Amazon cities) and pure pseudo‑history?
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Is society ready to accept widespread human‑machine integration (brain implants, AI assistants, driverless everything), and what rights or safeguards should come first?
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(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) All right, we're up. What up, dog? What are the odds that I contact you on Instagram- (laughs) ... and the fucking day you're here is the day your book comes out? It's, uh, pretty unlikely. Kind of crazy. Little bit. Right? Yeah, yeah. You know, it's kind of like the universe smiled upon us. (laughs) You know what I mean? It's like, it, it- Yeah. ... synchronicity, if you wanna believe in the simulation. Sometimes I do. I'm with you. I, sometimes you just see something, you're like, "This is, this is a simulation, right?" Right. "We're not in the real..." Yeah. There's, there's a second and a third and a fourth and so on. Sometimes just things seem like God is showing you satire. Like, the- (laughs) ... like, there's, like, just a little fun thrown in there with- I'm with you. ... and a lot of it is on your Instagram page. Mm-hmm. I have to tell you, dude, I have s- wasted so much fucking time- (laughs) ... so much time watching your videos going- Yeah. ... "What the fuck?" (laughs) "Is that real?" Yeah, yeah. And so many things I've learned from it. It's actually, it's very educational. Yeah. But it's also very fun. Thank you. Um, Cody Tucker. I love to, like- Your book is called And Now You Know. And, uh- And Now You Know. ... I didn't even know you had a book when I reached out to you. I just said, "This guy's gotta be interesting." Like... Yeah, I mean, that remains to be seen, I think. (laughs) But we'll, we'll find out together. Well, you are on Instagram. Thank you. How did you get started doing that, uh, type of a page? 'Cause it's very specific. Yeah. I, I mean, I've always been interested in, like, random facts, like, you know, m- origin stories of words, like movies, all these different things, like the, you know, dark side of history. Right. And I like telling people those stories. And they seem to enjoy it whenever I tell them, so I was like, well why don't I just, like, make little videos and clip 'em, you know, clip 'em up, make 'em look all right. What were you doing before you were doing that? I mean, I've always had a podcast. No one watches this thing, so it's all right. (laughs) Well, let's, we'll bump that bitch up now. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, it might change now, but, um, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily recommend watching the podcast, but it is, it exists. Ah, that's hilarious. So, that's all right. But, uh, yeah. That is, by the way, so much better than, "Please watch my podcast. Like and subscribe." Whenever a video gets interrupted by- Nah. ... "Like and subscribe," the last thing I wanna do is like and subscribe. Like, come on. No. I s- I mean, I'd rather you just, if you watch it and like it, well, thank you. If you don't, get- you get in line. There's others. Well, that's how podcasts get good. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's what I started out doing with this. I never advertised this thing once. Yeah. This, this- (laughs) ... thing got where it is 100% word of mouth. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. 'Cause I m- I started watching pretty early, and it was, but it still had, like, a pretty decent following then. But I know you, like, you started, like, even earlier. We started in 2009. Yeah, so this would've been, like, year, couple years after that, even, that I started watching what it was. But when I started, you know, me and my friend, Brian, when we started, we weren't even thinking it was a podcast. We- Yeah. ... we had already done these things where we'd stream live from the green room at comedy clubs. Right. Yeah. Back when it was on Justin.tv, which became what, Jamie? Twitch. Twitch. So we would just be- Okay. ... you know, like, Joey would be talking shit in the green room. Yeah, yeah. And we'd be having fun, and, you know, we'd just film it just for fun. Gotcha. And then, um, I had a few friends that started doing internet shows. Tom Green was the big one. 'Cause Tom Green- Yeah. ... had it all set up at his house. He's incredible, too. Oh, he's the best. Yeah. He's such a sweetheart, too. Yeah. So, like, such a s- everything you would hope he'd be, that's who he is. Great, great fucking guy. Yeah. And, you know, like, really a forward-thinker early on. He was like- Yeah. ... "I think I can just do this from my house. Why don't I just do..." Yeah. But it was too early. Like, this is 2007, and the internet sucked. It wasn't ready yet. Yeah, yeah. You know, no one had smartphones yet. It was, like ... Yeah. But he was patient zero, I think. Gotcha. Him, and then there was this, uh, Opie and Anthony Show that I used to do. Oh, they were amazing. They were amazing. And, but- Yeah. ... Anthony Cumia started doing this thing live from the compound in his basement- Uh-huh. ... where he would do karaoke with a green screen, holding a machine gun. He was fucking- That's incredible. ... he's nuts. He's out of his mind. (laughs) And he had, like- Yeah. ... beers on tap, so they'd be getting hammered. Jesus. He's playing video games. He's a maniac. Yeah. And, and I was like, "That looks like so much fun." I was like- Yeah. ... "He just has a studio that he set up in his basement." Yeah. And so we just started fucking around with the m- most bare of equipment. It was a fucking laptop webcam. Yeah. Jesus Christ. And, uh, we had, like, a USB mic. Yeah. Okay. We had one of them blue mics. Yeah, the blue, yeah. The big, stupid silver ones. We had one of those. It's, like, 30 bucks at Walmart. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. That's how we started. And then- Oh. ... it, you know, we just kept doing it. But s- telling people not to go to your podcast is classic. That's very fun. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's, yeah, that's usually my thing. 'Cause if, there are people that do watch it, and I think they like it. And I like those people. (laughs) I'm glad, I'm glad those people are around. But it's not f- it's not something that should ever become popular. Well, you know, there's two schools of thought today with, uh, the youngins like yourself. Yeah. It's like, just get famous at any cost. Yeah. Get on TikTok. Yeah. Share your dick on OnlyFans. What, whatever you have to do. Yeah, been there, done that, yeah. Or not. Right? Yeah. Or fuck that. Right. And that, you're in the fuck that category. Yeah. I d- I could care less about being f- having anyone know who the fuck I am. Which, granted- Good. ... here, you know, here I am, which stuff's kinda odd. I know, it's nuts. But ... That's the, but that's also why you're here, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's also why your book came out today. It's like, there's a synchronicity going on. Yeah. Something. There's something, where like- Something's happening. ... things are crossing over that I didn't ... So you just d- you did your podcast. Yeah. And in those stories that you would tell on the podcast- Mm-hmm. ... where you would drop some crazy information- Exactly. Yeah, I did, yeah. ... then you s- decided to start clipping them up. Exactly. So the, I would end it with just, like, oh, here's some, like, half-assed history, which is what I called, like, the segment. And then, uh, I was like, oh, here's, like, a half-assed cig- half-assed history segment and just ramble about some bullshit from, like, Napoleon or something. I binged 'em today. (laughs) And, uh, what- Serious? Sorry. 'Cause, you know, was getting ready for you to come in. No, it was fun. It was fun. (laughs) You, you really freaked me out with the whole Outlaw Josey Wales thing. Like, I love that movie. Dude. And now I'm like, "Oh, no." Yeah, can't watch it anymore. Oh, no. It's the guy who wrote the book that turned into the, I mean, I mean ... Tell the story, 'cause it's so crazy.
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