Joe Rogan Experience #1303 - Tommy Chong

Joe Rogan Experience #1303 - Tommy Chong

The Joe Rogan ExperienceMay 23, 20191h 42m

Joe Rogan (host), Tommy Chong (guest), Guest (unidentified third voice, likely producer/companion) (guest), Guest (unidentified fourth voice, likely producer/companion) (guest)

Aging, health, cancer treatments, and hormone therapyTango, exercise, and the connection between movement, sex, and vitalityPrison experience, probation, and systemic injustice in U.S. law enforcementCannabis culture: legalization, stigma, Chong’s arrest, and Chong’s Choice brandPolitics: Trump, Obama, taxes, racism, gun culture, and mediaSpirituality, the I Ching, AI, the Bible as code, and multiple universesCheech & Chong’s origin story, early improv, albums, and movie success

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Tommy Chong, Joe Rogan Experience #1303 - Tommy Chong explores tommy Chong on Tango, Cancer, Jail, Weed, and Cosmic Wisdom Tommy Chong joins Joe Rogan for a wide‑ranging conversation that drifts from aging, health, and tango dancing to cannabis, politics, and spirituality. He describes how tango became his primary exercise, his battles with prostate and rectal cancer, and his belief that stress and quitting weed may have worsened his health. Chong recounts his federal prison sentence for selling bongs, using that time to study, write, and treat jail like a spiritual retreat while observing systemic injustice. The two also explore gun culture, Trump and taxes, mystical tools like the I Ching, and how Chong’s lifelong relationship with cannabis and counterculture shaped his comedy, career, and outlook on life.

Tommy Chong on Tango, Cancer, Jail, Weed, and Cosmic Wisdom

Tommy Chong joins Joe Rogan for a wide‑ranging conversation that drifts from aging, health, and tango dancing to cannabis, politics, and spirituality. He describes how tango became his primary exercise, his battles with prostate and rectal cancer, and his belief that stress and quitting weed may have worsened his health. Chong recounts his federal prison sentence for selling bongs, using that time to study, write, and treat jail like a spiritual retreat while observing systemic injustice. The two also explore gun culture, Trump and taxes, mystical tools like the I Ching, and how Chong’s lifelong relationship with cannabis and counterculture shaped his comedy, career, and outlook on life.

Key Takeaways

Treat physical activity as both health maintenance and emotional nourishment.

Chong uses tango as his primary exercise, describing it as ‘old folk sex’ that offers balance, coordination, intimacy, and a reason to keep his body engaged and alive, which he links directly to longevity and vitality.

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Stress management and mental state meaningfully affect how you experience serious illness.

He believes stress, quitting weed, and medical procedures contributed to his rectal cancer progression, and argues that cannabis helped calm his mind, reduce fear, and support his body through radiation, surgery, and recovery.

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Time in confinement can be reframed as an opportunity for rigorous self‑study.

In prison, Chong read extensively, wrote, learned about tango and spirituality, helped others with tools like the I Ching, and treated incarceration as a monastic‑style retreat rather than solely as punishment.

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Systems of punishment often ensnare nonviolent people and are intertwined with economic power.

He describes doctors, accountants, and speechwriters imprisoned for tax or technical offenses, and notes the U. ...

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Cannabis is a flexible tool: it can enhance life or enable avoidance depending on use.

Both men stress that weed doesn’t inherently make people lazy or stupid; when used intentionally it can deepen focus, creativity, sex, and sleep, but used compulsively it can also become a crutch or a way to do nothing.

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Cultural narratives about drugs and guns are heavily shaped by propaganda and fear.

Chong contrasts Reefer Madness‑style hysteria with Cheech & Chong’s playful depictions of weed, and criticizes gun culture as rooted in paranoia, pointing out how mass shootings, media, and entertainment normalize violence.

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Spiritual and divination practices can function as psychological mirrors and guides.

Through the I Ching and metaphysical readings of the Bible, Chong believes ‘spirit’ communicates with people, providing surprisingly specific insights in jail that helped him and others contextualize trauma and make decisions.

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Notable Quotes

I found out the fountain of youth is the pussy.

Tommy Chong

When you calm the brain, you allow your body to take over and heal.

Tommy Chong

I turned prison into a religious retreat.

Tommy Chong

Pot is like a hammer. You can build a house with it, or you can hit yourself in the dick.

Joe Rogan

What if everything we’re doing is right and you’re wrong?

Tommy Chong

Questions Answered in This Episode

How much of Chong’s health improvement can reasonably be attributed to cannabis versus conventional treatments and lifestyle changes?

Tommy Chong joins Joe Rogan for a wide‑ranging conversation that drifts from aging, health, and tango dancing to cannabis, politics, and spirituality. ...

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In what ways does treating incarceration as a ‘spiritual retreat’ help, and where might that framing obscure the structural harms of the prison system?

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How should we evaluate Chong’s politically charged theories about Trump, the FBI, and taxes—what’s speculation versus documented fact?

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Can practices like the I Ching be understood as useful psychological tools without assuming a literal ‘spirit world’ is communicating?

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What responsibility do comedians and entertainers have for shaping public perceptions of drugs, guns, and authority, given the influence Cheech & Chong clearly had?

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Transcript Preview

Joe Rogan

(claps) Tommy Chong, ladies and gentlemen.

Tommy Chong

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

How are you, sir?

Tommy Chong

(laughs) I'm fine, man.

Joe Rogan

It's great to see you again, man.

Tommy Chong

You too, Joe.

Joe Rogan

I tell everybody that one of my first ever experiences with comedy recordings was listening to Big Bambu when I was a kid.

Tommy Chong

Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan

My parents had it, and, uh, they'd let us listen to it. We'd open it up like a big old packet of rolling papers-

Tommy Chong

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

... and pull out the albums back then-

Tommy Chong

Sure.

Joe Rogan

... the, the actual record.

Tommy Chong

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

You know? And so I've been a fan for a long time.

Tommy Chong

Okay. Yeah. I can tell, man. I can tell.

Joe Rogan

(laughs) How are you?

Tommy Chong

The lover of the weed. I'm, I'm fine, man. I, I'm... couldn't be better. You know? I'm... I'll be 81 Friday.

Joe Rogan

Wow.

Tommy Chong

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

That's amazing.

Tommy Chong

It is.

Joe Rogan

Does it sound crazy to say? 'Cause I'm 51, that sounds crazy to say. When I say it, I'm like, "Jesus, is that true?"

Tommy Chong

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

Fuck.

Tommy Chong

I'm 30 years older than you.

Joe Rogan

Wow.

Tommy Chong

Wow. That's something. But I feel good, man. You know? All the systems are go again, you know, and that, that makes a big difference in your life, you know?

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tommy Chong

That's when I found out the fountain of youth is, uh, the pussy.

Joe Rogan

That's it?

Tommy Chong

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

That's all it is?

Tommy Chong

Drink out of the fountain of youth and you'll live forever.

Joe Rogan

Really?

Tommy Chong

Yep.

Joe Rogan

Okay.

Tommy Chong

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

What about if you're gay?

Guest (unidentified third voice, likely producer/companion)

Mm-hmm.

Tommy Chong

Well, I guess-

Joe Rogan

Long pause. (laughs)

Tommy Chong

... the fountain of y- Yeah, I had to think about that one.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tommy Chong

(laughs) Well, I guess-

Joe Rogan

It might be dick for them.

Tommy Chong

... I guess it... No. I... No, no.

Joe Rogan

It might-

Tommy Chong

It has to be the fountain. It has to be the fountain.

Joe Rogan

So even for gay folks, it's gotta be pussy too?

Tommy Chong

Well, how long... What's the longest living gay guy that you know?

Joe Rogan

That's a good question. Huh.

Tommy Chong

Like Bob Hope, man. He-

Joe Rogan

Was he gay?

Tommy Chong

No. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tommy Chong

At least, at least one night I knew him, he wasn't. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tommy Chong

No, that's my fountain of youth.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tommy Chong

You know? Because it, uh-

Joe Rogan

Sure. Romance.

Tommy Chong

Well, what happens is, uh, your body, when it reaches a certain stage, it, it starts disintegrating because it's getting ready for the recall-

Joe Rogan

Mm-hmm.

Tommy Chong

... and the reboot.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tommy Chong

And, and you get a new body, and away you go again. But if you keep this body healthy, uh, it, it feels that there's no need to, uh, to leave because then you s- obviously still got more shit to do.

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