Joe Rogan Experience #1424 - Tom Papa
Joe Rogan (host), Tom Papa (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Tom Papa, Joe Rogan Experience #1424 - Tom Papa explores joe Rogan And Tom Papa Explore Meat Diets, Ghosts, And Comedy Joe Rogan and comedian Tom Papa have a long, loose conversation that ranges from diets and health to ghosts, Native American history, homelessness, and the evolution of stand-up comedy.
Joe Rogan And Tom Papa Explore Meat Diets, Ghosts, And Comedy
Joe Rogan and comedian Tom Papa have a long, loose conversation that ranges from diets and health to ghosts, Native American history, homelessness, and the evolution of stand-up comedy.
Rogan details his month on the carnivore diet, connecting it to reduced inflammation and autoimmune improvements, while Papa talks about his bread-baking obsession and the tension between pleasure and discipline.
They discuss the brutality of Comanche warfare, the neglect of inner cities and homelessness, and how mental illness and policy shaped modern street life.
The episode also dives deep into comedy culture: the Comedy Store’s unique community, Howard Stern and Opie & Anthony’s influence on podcasting, the pressures of fame on comics, and Papa’s new Netflix special and writing process.
Key Takeaways
Elimination-style diets can reveal hidden inflammation triggers.
Rogan reports that a strict month of eating only meat (plus eggs and fish) dramatically reduced his back and knee pain and improved his vitiligo, while a brief return to sugar and carbs made aches flare up again—suggesting refined carbs and junk food may be major inflammation drivers for him.
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Discipline and routine are crucial for creative output.
Papa describes treating book writing like a job—same time every morning, revising continually—and says that scheduled, consistent work sessions are what allow a special or a manuscript to get truly polished.
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Pleasure and health require a personal balance, not absolutism.
They contrast Rogan’s carnivore month with Papa’s artisanal sourdough, landing on the idea that long-term success likely comes from periods of rigidity (e. ...
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Cultures can normalize extreme violence—and then move beyond it.
Rogan’s reading on the Comanches shows how torture, raids, and brutal warfare were once culturally standard, underscoring how much everyday violence has actually declined in modern societies despite what media images suggest.
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Neglected inner cities represent a massive missed opportunity.
Through stories about Newark, New Jersey, and Papa’s sister’s urban gardening nonprofit, they argue that early intervention—especially with young kids via education, nature, and mentorship—can dramatically change life trajectories, yet receives far less investment than foreign interventions.
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Mental illness and policy choices heavily shape homelessness.
Rogan traces a wave of street homelessness to the Reagan-era deinstitutionalization of psychiatric patients, and both note how today’s tent cities often combine mental illness, addiction, and economic stress, demanding more nuanced solutions than “get a job.”
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The modern comedy boom is fueled by independence and consistency.
They credit Howard Stern, Opie & Anthony, and satellite radio for normalizing uncensored talk, which paved the way for podcasts; Rogan stresses that the key to a successful podcast or act is simply grinding consistently so audiences learn to rely on you.
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Notable Quotes
“I think the problem is not plants as much as the problem really is refined sugar, carbohydrates, and bullshit.”
— Joe Rogan
“There’s something to be said for pleasure, right? You just can’t have too much discipline and no pleasure or too much pleasure and no discipline.”
— Tom Papa (paraphrased from the bread vs. diet discussion)
“It’s amazing that there hasn’t been more time and effort invested by the government to try to clean up these terrible neighborhoods.”
— Joe Rogan
“Comedy’s the most fun thing to do. Once you’ve done it a bunch, that’s it—you start getting weird when you don’t do it.”
— Tom Papa
“Things need to be mocked. Including us.”
— Joe Rogan
Questions Answered in This Episode
How much of Rogan’s positive carnivore experience is reproducible for others versus highly individual to his biology and baseline diet?
Joe Rogan and comedian Tom Papa have a long, loose conversation that ranges from diets and health to ghosts, Native American history, homelessness, and the evolution of stand-up comedy.
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If refined carbs and sugar are such strong inflammation drivers, what practical middle-ground diet could balance health benefits with food enjoyment for most people?
Rogan details his month on the carnivore diet, connecting it to reduced inflammation and autoimmune improvements, while Papa talks about his bread-baking obsession and the tension between pleasure and discipline.
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What specific interventions—beyond sports and gardens—are most effective at giving inner-city kids a viable alternative to gangs, drugs, and homelessness?
They discuss the brutality of Comanche warfare, the neglect of inner cities and homelessness, and how mental illness and policy shaped modern street life.
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How should we ethically balance belief in ghosts, spirits, and “room energy” with scientific skepticism when we interpret weird experiences and footage?
The episode also dives deep into comedy culture: the Comedy Store’s unique community, Howard Stern and Opie & Anthony’s influence on podcasting, the pressures of fame on comics, and Papa’s new Netflix special and writing process.
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In a world with 900,000+ podcasts, what genuinely differentiates a meaningful, lasting show from the vast majority that never gain traction?
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Transcript Preview
Tommy Papa.
Joey.
What's going on, buddy? You looking at that, uh, tarantula hawk?
Yeah.
Look at the size of that sucker, huh?
I know. I f- I found one of those in my tub once.
That's straight from Maynard's farm. Maynard from, uh, Tool.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, he sent me that.
Oh, wow.
He found that fucking thing.
(laughs) Jesus.
Yeah. He was explaining it to me and then he sent me one 'cause he's, uh-
(laughs)
... that's how he rolls.
That's how he rolls. (laughs)
(laughs) Bro.
They're the coolest.
You brought bread. You know I'm on this all meat diet.
I know.
You decided to bring bread to fuck with me, man.
But you have a family.
Oh.
You have a family.
No, I, I ... I'll, I'll deviate a little bit. I'll deviate.
You might wanna take a look at it later. It's a little wrinkly.
I deviated over this weekend.
You did?
I went to ... Yeah. I went to Disneyland and, uh, I had ice cream.
Oh, boy.
And then, and then Friday night ... Or Saturday night? Saturday night I had pasta. I had, uh-
(laughs)
... all kinds ... I had Girl Scout cookies. I ate a bunch of Girl Scout cookies. And dude, I'm telling you, Sunday my back was hurting.
Really?
Mon- Monday my back was hurting. Everything was like ... My knee was hurting. All, all this, like, inflammation. It's crazy.
Achy? Puffy?
Yeah. One day back ... Two days, 'cause today's Tuesday, so I ate carnivore Monday and Tuesday ... Everything's normal again.
Really?
No, no more, no more aches and pains.
So, you were full on meat for-
For a whole month.
A whole month.
Yeah. But once-
How many meals a day?
Two, usually.
Two?
Yeah. Usually a-
And just-
... small meal around noon-
Mm-hmm.
... after I work out, and then dinner.
All right. And th- ... No eggs? No-
Yeah, I would eat eggs. Eggs and fish.
Eggs, fish.
Eggs, fish, meat.
Meat.
Just no carbohydrates.
No vegetables at all?
No vegetables at all.
No fruits?
No.
No-
Nothing.
... bread, of course.
No. I had an olive. No, two olives.
(laughs)
And, uh, two pieces of chili mango the entire month.
Two glorious olives. (laughs)
But the pieces of chili mango, I legitimately felt guilty. I love chili mango.
(laughs)
Don't you li-
I've never had chili mango.
Oh my God, really?
No.
It is one of the greatest creations.
What is it?
Um, it's ch-
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