Joe Rogan Experience #2057 - Dale Brisby
Dale Brisby (guest), Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Dale Brisby and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #2057 - Dale Brisby explores cowboys, Carnivore Diets, and Freedom: Dale Brisby Meets Joe Rogan Joe Rogan and Dale Brisby dive into the modern cowboy lifestyle, rodeo culture, and the deep appeal of ranching as a way of life, contrasting it with city living and overregulated environments.
Cowboys, Carnivore Diets, and Freedom: Dale Brisby Meets Joe Rogan
Joe Rogan and Dale Brisby dive into the modern cowboy lifestyle, rodeo culture, and the deep appeal of ranching as a way of life, contrasting it with city living and overregulated environments.
They spend significant time on health and nutrition—especially meat, the carnivore diet, and the corruption of mainstream nutrition science—along with concerns about sugar, processed foods, and glyphosate in agriculture.
Brisby describes the realities and risks of bull riding, bronc riding, and cowboy work, from catastrophic injuries to the mental addiction to high-stakes competition, and draws parallels to MMA fighters and special operations soldiers.
The conversation broadens to bowhunting, firearms, jiu-jitsu, personal responsibility, and political freedom, with both men emphasizing self-reliance, resilience, and living as an example rather than preaching.
Key Takeaways
Rodeo is a high-risk, deeply addictive way of life, not a stunt show.
Brisby explains that bull and bronc riders face severe injuries—broken necks, back surgeries, dislocations, and unmeasured CTE—but keep returning because the purity of the “fight” and the camaraderie behind the chutes become central to their identity.
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Mainstream nutrition narratives around fat and cholesterol are deeply flawed.
Rogan and Brisby argue that a key 1960s sugar-industry-funded paper wrongly blamed saturated fat for heart disease, distorting public policy for decades, while sugar and processed carbs are the real drivers of obesity and heart problems for most people.
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Meat and regenerative ranching can be ethical and environmentally sound.
They distinguish brutal factory farming from pasture-based, regenerative systems where animals live naturally, recycle nutrients, can be close to carbon-neutral, and often have better lives and deaths than wildlife, challenging simplistic 'meat is killing the planet' claims.
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The carnivore-leaning diet can dramatically improve energy and clarity for some.
Both men describe feeling best on meat-heavy or carnivore diets—steady energy, less brain fog, fewer crashes—and see cutting sugar, processed foods, and most carbs as more impactful than obsessing over dietary cholesterol.
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High-stakes pursuits train emotional control under pressure.
Brisby parallels bronc riding, MMA, and combat: success depends on executing fundamentals while terrified—ignoring intuition that screams 'get away'—which builds a unique mental toughness that carries into other areas of life.
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Hunting and ranching reconnect people to nature’s real life–death cycle.
They argue that bowhunting and raising livestock force you to confront death honestly, realize that wild deaths are often far more brutal than a quick kill, and expose the illusion that grocery store meat or plant agriculture is bloodless.
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The best way to influence culture is by example, not lectures.
When Brisby asks how to 'help' as a public figure, Rogan emphasizes living a life of hard work, freedom, and responsibility; people are most inspired by watching someone who clearly loves what they do and takes ownership of their choices.
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Notable Quotes
“People had kids before they figured out floors. That’s why we’re here.”
— Joe Rogan
“Rodeo will grab ahold of your soul and not let go.”
— Dale Brisby
“If meat was killing everybody, it would’ve killed us off a long time ago.”
— Joe Rogan
“It’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.”
— Dale Brisby (quoting Lonesome Dove / cowboy logic)
“The cowboy way of life isn’t dying—you just can’t see us from the road.”
— Dale Brisby
Questions Answered in This Episode
How would public opinion of rodeo change if more people understood the actual training, breeding, and handling of bucking bulls and horses?
Joe Rogan and Dale Brisby dive into the modern cowboy lifestyle, rodeo culture, and the deep appeal of ranching as a way of life, contrasting it with city living and overregulated environments.
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What would mainstream dietary guidelines look like if they were rebuilt from scratch using modern, uncorrupted science instead of legacy studies influenced by industry?
They spend significant time on health and nutrition—especially meat, the carnivore diet, and the corruption of mainstream nutrition science—along with concerns about sugar, processed foods, and glyphosate in agriculture.
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How can someone living in a city realistically adopt the self-reliance and satisfaction that cowboys and ranchers seem to have?
Brisby describes the realities and risks of bull riding, bronc riding, and cowboy work, from catastrophic injuries to the mental addiction to high-stakes competition, and draws parallels to MMA fighters and special operations soldiers.
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Where should the ethical line be drawn between necessary animal suffering in food production and unnecessary cruelty, especially in both ranching and plant agriculture?
The conversation broadens to bowhunting, firearms, jiu-jitsu, personal responsibility, and political freedom, with both men emphasizing self-reliance, resilience, and living as an example rather than preaching.
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In a highly polarized climate, how can public figures talk about guns, freedom, and personal responsibility without immediately being dismissed as partisan?
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What is going on with this, man? What's going on, man? Joe Rogan, it's good to be here.
It's a pleasure. Pleasure to meet you.
Likewise.
I feel like I shouldn't have these on either. Show me that hat, bro. Let's go.
Oh.
(laughs)
There's a couple ... I hope I didn't overdo it.
I've been here for three years. It's about time I wore one of these fucking hats.
(laughs) This is, uh, my brother made this belt end buckle.
Oh, nice. Oh, that's pretty sweet.
That was an idea I had.
Oh, that's very cool. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, it's got my name on it and everything? Ooh.
Yeah, it's a, it's a handmade ...
It's got a little elk antler. Look at that, folks. It's Christmas.
Lee Willard Gibbons made that.
Christmas early.
I hope that fits.
I hope it fits too. Here we go. I got a fat head.
Oh, it's backwards.
Oh. (laughs)
(laughs)
Is that good?
Oh my gosh.
Is that good?
Bro, that fits.
It fits. How's it look, Jamie?
All right.
You fucking ...
That face. (laughs)
(laughs) (claps)
Honestly, I don't know how they're supposed to fit. That's pretty close. 'Cause they like, they stick up a lot, and I feel like that's not how it's supposed to be, but everybody says that is how it's supposed to be. So, it does, there's, there's like two modes that you can put it in.
Yeah?
You know, like, there's just like, if you're just out honky-tonking, or then if you're about to like, you know, get on a bronc or something.
About to get serious. Cinch that bitch down.
And you like pull it down, and it makes your ears crunch.
No. It's not-
That's like, that's like a fight mode.
I think maybe his is too small. Does it stretch?
I was thinking, it's a 3/8ths.
Does it stretch?
A little bit, but- Have to heat it up to stretch- I'll get you a half.
You gotta heat it up?
You gotta steam it and I don't know.
Steam it.
The whole thing, I don't know. Made here in Texas.
Are they?
It's an American hat made in Texas.
Feels like an American hat made in Texas.
I'll get you, I'll get you a s- a half. That's a 3/8ths.
It's pretty close.
But it's pretty close.
It's right about there.
How's it feel? You can al-
Feels like I'm a fucking real Texan, goddammit.
(laughs)
(laughs)
That's what I was thinking. I was like, "My mans needs a cowboy hat."
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