JRE MMA Show #58 with Brendan Schaub
Joe Rogan (host), Brendan Schaub (guest), Jamie Vernon (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Brendan Schaub (playing a clip) (guest)
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Brendan Schaub, JRE MMA Show #58 with Brendan Schaub explores rogan and Schaub Break Down UFC Chaos, Icons, And Controversies Joe Rogan and Brendan Schaub bounce between gaming addiction, current UFC storylines, and broader combat sports politics in a loose, comedic conversation.
Rogan and Schaub Break Down UFC Chaos, Icons, And Controversies
Joe Rogan and Brendan Schaub bounce between gaming addiction, current UFC storylines, and broader combat sports politics in a loose, comedic conversation.
They analyze recent UFC performances (Diego Sanchez, Usman–Woodley, Askren–Lawler, Jones–Smith, Walker’s rise), debating fighter IQ, refereeing, and career trajectories.
The pair also dive into promotion and matchmaking issues around stars like Tyron Woodley, Stipe Miocic, Conor McGregor, DC, Jon Jones, Tyson Fury, and Deontay Wilder.
Along the way they veer into cultural topics like the Michael Jackson and R. Kelly documentaries, fame, and media responsibility, keeping everything framed by fighter mentality and risk–reward thinking.
Key Takeaways
Fight IQ and emotional control are as critical as physical talent.
Rogan and Schaub repeatedly cite Cody Garbrandt’s brawling against Pedro Munhoz and Tony Ferguson/Anthony Smith scenarios as examples where abandoning strategy or chasing emotion leads to avoidable damage and losses.
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Longevity in MMA comes from adapting style and recovery methods.
Diego Sanchez’s 17-year career, recent dominance, and his embrace of CBD are used to illustrate how evolving training, health tools, and mindset let older fighters stay competitive against younger prospects.
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Referee decisions can materially change careers and narratives.
The Askren–Lawler choke stoppage, Demian Maia–Usman stand‑ups, and debates around Mark Goddard vs. ...
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Matchmaking is driven by business, not just sporting merit.
They argue that Stipe Miocic’s sidelining despite an historic run, Woodley’s difficult road back, and stalled super-fights like Fury–Wilder II or Conor–Cowboy are largely about drawing power, network deals, and timing, not pure rankings.
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Weight class and body type fundamentally shape style and ceiling.
Comparisons between Woodley’s dense muscle vs. ...
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New contenders can quickly revitalize “stale” divisions.
They frame Kamaru Usman at 170 and Johnny Walker, Thiago Santos, Dominick Reyes at 205 as proof that a few explosive, marketable contenders can suddenly make a weight class must‑watch again.
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Fame and media framing deeply impact how we judge allegations.
Their discussion of the Michael Jackson and R. ...
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Notable Quotes
“This is one of the greatest title fight performances I’ve ever seen. Ever.”
— Joe Rogan (on Kamaru Usman vs. Tyron Woodley)
“He is such a savage. He's as savage as they get.”
— Joe Rogan (on Diego Sanchez)
“There’s nothing worse in professional sports than in the UFC when you get mounted on national TV.”
— Brendan Schaub (on Usman mounting Woodley)
“Rematches are tough… when you get outclassed for 25 minutes and there’s two 10‑8 rounds, it’s tough.”
— Brendan Schaub (on Woodley’s chances of an immediate rematch)
“I think it's all of the above… Usman is absolutely a bad motherfucker and who knows? He might have been able to do that anyway even if Tyron was in perfect condition.”
— Joe Rogan (on why Woodley lost to Usman)
Questions Answered in This Episode
How much responsibility should fighters bear for protecting their own long-term health when refereeing and matchmaking incentives push them toward risky choices?
Joe Rogan and Brendan Schaub bounce between gaming addiction, current UFC storylines, and broader combat sports politics in a loose, comedic conversation.
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In cases like Askren–Lawler or Maia–Usman, what standardized criteria could commissions implement so stand‑ups and stoppages become more consistent and defensible?
They analyze recent UFC performances (Diego Sanchez, Usman–Woodley, Askren–Lawler, Jones–Smith, Walker’s rise), debating fighter IQ, refereeing, and career trajectories.
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Where is the line between smart “business decisions” in matchmaking (e.g., Fury’s ESPN deal, Conor’s fight choices) and outright avoidance of the best fighting the best?
The pair also dive into promotion and matchmaking issues around stars like Tyron Woodley, Stipe Miocic, Conor McGregor, DC, Jon Jones, Tyson Fury, and Deontay Wilder.
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Given Usman’s style and mindset, which welterweights (Colby, Till, Masvidal, Wonderboy, Askren) actually pose the most realistic threats to his title reign?
Along the way they veer into cultural topics like the Michael Jackson and R. ...
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Does the sport need to change how it rewards past champions like Woodley and Stipe so that historically great runs guarantee more respectful paths back to title contention?
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Five, four, three, two, ah! And we're live. Dude, I brought you to the dark side. Now you're playing Quake.
I got my ass whooped.
Yeah. Well, you were in a fucking melee. There's three other dudes in there blasting. It's a one-on-one map.
(laughs)
That map's chaos. It's so fun though. How fun is that shit?
It's fun. It reminds me of GoldenEye. Did you ever get into that?
How dare you, first of all.
Nintendo 64. That was a great game, bro.
That game c- that game can suck all the dicks. You're using those stupid Xbox things. Listen, you-
You mean a controller. (laughs)
... mouse and keyboard is where you're at. That's why you're getting fucked up. You don't even know how to move.
(laughs) It was hard for me to move back and forth.
(laughs)
(laughs) If it was a controller, game on.
(laughs) What?
For sure.
Yeah. Yeah, 'cause nobody can move. Yeah, if nobody can move, then you're all right.
With controllers?
Listen, th- dude, that fucking-
It's fun.
... that game's chaos. Jamie and I have been going back and forth for fucking four or five days now.
You'd be surprised. There are a couple guys that can compete, a few, that can compete with the mouse and keyboard guys with the way that they, uh, control everything.
I wouldn't be surprised. I'm sure they can but they have zero life and th- they don't even know what pussy looks like.
(laughs)
(laughs)
They see- (laughs)
But q- but Quake is, Quake is old school.
(laughs)
Quake's old school, right? Yeah. Q- we're on Quake 4, but there's Quake Champions that you play online. We've been playing Quake 4 because we can set it up on what's called a local area network, a LAN, and it's real easy, and there's no latency. It's just direct from computer to computer.
It's fun.
(sighs)
I was just thinking of the one guy. He's a, he's a really aggressive workout dude.
(laughs) What's that?
The guy that I'm thinking of, he's a, he's a vide- video game player. Very popular.
Oh, is he really good?
Yeah, his name is Nick Merksy. He's like a workout dude.
I'm only kidding. I'm sure he gets pussy.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. There's s- there's some good-looking dudes in game.
Yeah, I'm sure there are. I'm sure there are.
(laughs)
But it's not fun to say.
No.
It's fun to say that they weigh four pounds.
(laughs)
You like to picture them as trolls.
Yeah. Yeah, they can't find their dick.
Yeah.
(laughs)
Yeah.
But now those kids make bank-
(laughs) They do. They make so much money.
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