Joe Rogan Experience #2320 - Tom Segura

Joe Rogan Experience #2320 - Tom Segura

The Joe Rogan ExperienceMay 13, 20252h 34m

Narrator, Tom Segura (guest), Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Tom Segura’s Netflix series “Bad Thoughts” and his original dream of making moviesState of modern comedy, studio risk‑aversion, and the economics of comediesStandup craft: breaks, writing, hypnosis, genuine joy vs manufactured performanceHealth, fitness, touring, addiction, and food quality in America vs abroadTechnology and AI: deepfakes, synthetic media, future of film and actorsGambling culture in sports, pool, and combat sports judging/corruptionExistential questions: free will vs determinism, identity, and simulation‑like reality

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Tom Segura, Joe Rogan Experience #2320 - Tom Segura explores tom Segura on filthy new Netflix series, comedy, risk, and reality Joe Rogan and Tom Segura dive into Tom’s new Netflix sketch-anthology series “Bad Thoughts,” how he backdoored it into existence with self‑funded short films, and why it feels like finally realizing his original dream of making comedy movies. They expand into a broader critique of modern comedy and studio risk‑aversion, the economics of making truly funny R‑rated films, and Tom’s upcoming summer comedy movie project. The conversation then sprawls through standup craft, hypnosis‑like crowd control, killing material, and the pressures of touring, before veering into health, addiction, fitness, food, AI, gambling, combat sports, and even simulation theory. Throughout, it’s a long, loose hang between two veteran comics reflecting on careers, risk‑taking, and the strange incentives shaping entertainment and society.

Tom Segura on filthy new Netflix series, comedy, risk, and reality

Joe Rogan and Tom Segura dive into Tom’s new Netflix sketch-anthology series “Bad Thoughts,” how he backdoored it into existence with self‑funded short films, and why it feels like finally realizing his original dream of making comedy movies. They expand into a broader critique of modern comedy and studio risk‑aversion, the economics of making truly funny R‑rated films, and Tom’s upcoming summer comedy movie project. The conversation then sprawls through standup craft, hypnosis‑like crowd control, killing material, and the pressures of touring, before veering into health, addiction, fitness, food, AI, gambling, combat sports, and even simulation theory. Throughout, it’s a long, loose hang between two veteran comics reflecting on careers, risk‑taking, and the strange incentives shaping entertainment and society.

Key Takeaways

If you can’t get a green light, build proof of concept yourself.

Segura knew Netflix would never buy his show from a script, so he self‑funded several short films, showed them finished episodes, and only then did they agree to a six‑episode order. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Remember your original dream and realign your career accordingly.

Tom’s initial dream was movies, not standup; touring success accidentally pulled him away from that. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Great comedy requires risk, low budgets, and backing the funniest material—not committees.

They argue studio comedies faltered because budgets ballooned and executives became too risk‑averse and tone‑policing. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Standup is partly ‘hypnosis’: audience feels when you’re genuinely invested.

Rogan and Segura describe comedy as a trance created by confidence, rhythm, and authentic enthusiasm for the subject. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Strategic breaks from touring strengthen both material and mental health.

They both note that nonstop touring leads to scrambling for material and performing sets you’re not emotionally invested in. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Environment and food systems matter as much as personal discipline.

Comparing Japan/Italy to the US, they blame America’s metabolic health crisis on ultra‑processed food, glyphosate, and corporate incentives to keep people fat and addicted. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

AI will radically change film, acting, and authenticity—soon.

They review early examples of AI‑generated actors and full scenes, predicting studio‑quality movies for under $500K and uncontrolled foreign markets using star likenesses. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Notable Quotes

Sometimes you have to remind yourself of what your original dream was.

Tom Segura

They sent me to film school and said, ‘Make your fucked up movies.’

Tom Segura

So many studio comedies fail because they’re not actually funny. It’s not a funny comedy.

Tom Segura

A lot of standup is kind of unspoken. I think a lot of it is hypnosis.

Joe Rogan

Our society is infested with bitches, like an apartment filled with roaches.

Joe Rogan

Questions Answered in This Episode

How does “Bad Thoughts” differ creatively from Tom Segura’s standup, and what risks did he take on screen that he wouldn’t attempt onstage?

Joe Rogan and Tom Segura dive into Tom’s new Netflix sketch-anthology series “Bad Thoughts,” how he backdoored it into existence with self‑funded short films, and why it feels like finally realizing his original dream of making comedy movies. ...

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

If low‑budget, high‑risk comedies are such an opportunity, what’s actually stopping more comics from independently making them the way Tom did?

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Where’s the line between being hypnotically confident onstage and becoming formulaic or manipulative with an audience?

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Given the corruption and subjectivity in combat sports judging they discussed, how could scoring systems be redesigned to protect fighters’ careers and earnings?

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

As AI makes fully synthetic performances and deepfakes trivial, how should audiences—and laws—adapt to preserve artistic value and consent in entertainment?

Get the full analysis with uListen AI

Transcript Preview

Narrator

(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Tom Segura

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays)

Joe Rogan

(laughs) What's wrong with you?

Tom Segura

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

How? First of all, how did Netflix let you make this show?

Tom Segura

Well, they wouldn't have-

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tom Segura

... let me make it if I just pitched it to them. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

(laughs) What did you do?

Tom Segura

I made a few- (laughs)

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tom Segura

I made a few and showed it to them.

Joe Rogan

Oh my God.

Tom Segura

'Cause I, I knew. I knew that I, like-

Joe Rogan

Dude.

Tom Segura

... that if, like-

Joe Rogan

You can't give anybody, like, the script.

Tom Segura

No.

Joe Rogan

No.

Tom Segura

The script won't work. The script won't work.

Joe Rogan

(sighs)

Tom Segura

I mean, that's just-

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tom Segura

(laughs) That's the thing is, like-

Joe Rogan

That's very funny. Very funny.

Tom Segura

Thanks, man. It's, um-

Joe Rogan

So ridiculous.

Tom Segura

It's pretty ridiculous. You know, it was a few years ago that I made the, like, the initial one. It was, um, I was on that crazy tour, that real crazy tour-

Joe Rogan

Mm-hmm.

Tom Segura

... where it was, like, you know, fucking 10 shows a week, and I had a break coming up. And so, I've always liked movies, like, features, right? But it's, it's a lot, it's a huge undertaking to get a feature made, but I liked short films 'cause it feels like you're making a movie, you know, like, a mini-movie, right?

Joe Rogan

Right.

Tom Segura

And it feels much more accessible to do. So, I had written all these, like, short stories, short films, and I called my friend Rami Hashash, and I was like, "Hey, I have a break coming up on tour. Let's shoot a short film." 'Cause we'd done other things before. And when I sent him, I sent him, like, 10 different scripts. He was like, "What if we did three of these?" I was like, "How can we do three of them?" He's like, "We'll shoot, like, 11 days in a row, and we can do three of these stories." And even then, I wasn't thinking of, like, having a television series. I was just like, oh, it'll be fun to make these, these stories, you know? And so, after we shot those three, it was clear that we had, like, like, the, you know, the bones of a show. Like, what if we, what if we did a, a show that was based on short stories, you know? Like, short films, basically. And I don't know, I, I... there's, there was another, there's another few that were in the original, and when I sent them in to Netflix, they were like, "This is fucking insane, but, like, we'll make six episodes of this." (laughs)

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tom Segura

And (laughs) yeah, they were just like, "This is crazy." But it's been, it's been the most fun I've ever had, dude.

Install uListen to search the full transcript and get AI-powered insights

Get Full Transcript

Get more from every podcast

AI summaries, searchable transcripts, and fact-checking. Free forever.

Add to Chrome