Joe Rogan Experience #1516 - Post Malone
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In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Post Malone and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #1516 - Post Malone explores post Malone and Joe Rogan Free‑range on Aliens, Art, Drugs, Tech, Death Joe Rogan and Post Malone, openly high on mushrooms and sleep‑deprived, have a sprawling four‑hour conversation that ping‑pongs between creativity, psychedelics, UFOs, ghosts, ancient history, nature, and future tech. They dig into how altered states and solitude (like Post’s life in Utah) influence artistic ‘flow’ and the quasi‑mystical feeling of ideas arriving from nowhere. The pair speculate about aliens, government secrecy, genetic engineering, superhumans, and the ethics of brain–computer integration and microchipping. Woven through are stories about horror movies, predators in nature, combat sports, COVID restrictions, and what it means to stay human in an increasingly technological world.
Post Malone and Joe Rogan Free‑range on Aliens, Art, Drugs, Tech, Death
Joe Rogan and Post Malone, openly high on mushrooms and sleep‑deprived, have a sprawling four‑hour conversation that ping‑pongs between creativity, psychedelics, UFOs, ghosts, ancient history, nature, and future tech. They dig into how altered states and solitude (like Post’s life in Utah) influence artistic ‘flow’ and the quasi‑mystical feeling of ideas arriving from nowhere. The pair speculate about aliens, government secrecy, genetic engineering, superhumans, and the ethics of brain–computer integration and microchipping. Woven through are stories about horror movies, predators in nature, combat sports, COVID restrictions, and what it means to stay human in an increasingly technological world.
Key Takeaways
Environment profoundly shapes creativity and mental health.
Post moved to rural Utah to escape LA’s constant social pull and anxiety, finding that mountains, quiet, and slower pace let him focus deeply on making music rather than being drained by perpetual events and nightlife.
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Altered states can catalyze original ideas — but they’re unpredictable tools, not guarantees.
Both describe how weed, alcohol, and mushrooms sometimes unlock surprising melodies, bits, or concepts that feel like “gifts,” yet they also acknowledge you can’t force genius and you can create great work sober too.
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Art is a form of ‘magic’: engineered sound and story that reliably changes human state.
They frame music and comedy as alchemy — turning private accidents and experiments into patterns (songs, jokes) that reliably trigger dopamine, goosebumps, or catharsis in thousands of strangers at once.
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We’re heading toward a biologically and ethically fraught tech future.
From CRISPR babies to brain–computer interfaces and implanted microchips, they stress that once enhancement is possible, some state or corporation somewhere will pursue superhumans and body-integrated tech, raising huge questions about control and consent.
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Nature is far more brutal and alien than we like to admit.
Their fascination with centipedes eating mice, killer hornets decapitating bees, sharks, mountain lions, and orcas underscores that our insulated human world sits on top of an ecosystem where pain, predation, and indifference are the norm.
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Human narratives about aliens and ghosts often fill gaps in our understanding and fear.
From UFO sightings and Pentagon admissions to ghost stories and the ‘stone tape’ idea, they suggest some accounts may be real, some misperceptions, and some cultural coping mechanisms for the unknown and for mortality.
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Safety measures have hidden trade‑offs in meaning, freedom, and resilience.
They question both COVID policies (closures, mask fines, snitch hotlines) and future autonomous cars, worrying that prioritizing safety and control above all else might erase risk but also erode responsibility, joy, and the capacity to handle adversity.
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Notable Quotes
“With a great song, man, you're giving a person a drug.”
— Joe Rogan
“I think all of my ideas are kinda like mistakes… it's all about right moment, right time.”
— Post Malone
“If you do the right drugs, you can meet the aliens.”
— Joe Rogan
“Technology does not go with the human body. This is organic.”
— Post Malone
“Imagine history before pictures… the only way you could see something was someone had to draw it for you.”
— Joe Rogan
Questions Answered in This Episode
How much of genuine artistic ‘flow’ depends on environment versus internal mindset, and could Post have found the same output if he’d stayed in LA?
Joe Rogan and Post Malone, openly high on mushrooms and sleep‑deprived, have a sprawling four‑hour conversation that ping‑pongs between creativity, psychedelics, UFOs, ghosts, ancient history, nature, and future tech. ...
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Where should we personally draw the line between using substances as creative tools and relying on them in ways that erode long‑term mental or physical health?
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If governments or corporations start offering implanted tech that prevents disease or enhances cognition, what safeguards would you demand before considering it?
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Do widespread beliefs in aliens, ghosts, and demons reflect actual phenomena, or are they more a mirror of human fears about control, death, and insignificance?
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In trying to make society maximally safe — through lockdowns, masks, autonomous vehicles, and surveillance — what essential human experiences or freedoms are we most at risk of sacrificing?
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I'm giving you my dark surprise.
(clears throat) That's my Everybody's Too High song. Do do do do.
Do do do do do do. (laughs)
Right? (laughs) When it's like, "Oh, no."
(laughs) This guy's fucking high.
Grab the table. Yeah, hang on. Do do do do. Do do do do do. And we're rolling. What's up, brother? How are you?
I don't even...
What's going on?
How are you?
Got you in here, man. I'm excited, excited.
You know, I'm finally, I'm finally here. I'm happy to be here.
By the light, huh? This is your shit?
Yeah, come on.
All right.
Cheers, sir.
Cheers, sir.
Why not?
Pleasure.
Also, precursor, I haven't slept.
I know. We haven't slept, we're on mushrooms.
(laughs)
And, uh, let's roll. (laughs)
Yeah, fuck it. We'll do it live. (laughs)
Yeah. "Let's do it live! Fuck it!" W- why Utah, man? Why you live in Utah? What's that about?
I have no idea.
Have you b- are you from there?
No, sir. I was born in Syracuse, New York.
It's bea- it's beautiful there. I love it there.
It is. It's absolutely something special.
I really love it. It's got a good vibe too, because it's, there's, it's almost like Utah's a secret because everybody's scared of the Mormons, so they don't go there.
Right.
But then you get there and you're like, "Jesus Christ, it's beautiful. And these Mormons are so nice."
Everybody's so nice.
(laughs)
Everybody's so nice in Utah. And, um, you know, I did... So I don't remember what tour it was exactly, but there were supposed to be 5,000 people to show up. And then we end up getting to the show and there's 17,000 people. So we had to move it outside of the venue, right on the salt flats.
Oh, wow.
And I was just like, "If this isn't a sign from God or-"
The aliens?
... you know, the aliens (laughs) , then I don't know what is." So I looked at houses on Zillow and I found one and fixed it all up.
(laughs)
And...
That's awesome.
Now I've been there two years just about, and...
That's a good, it's a good spot for a guy like you too, 'cause it's chill in comparison to the rest of your life, which is so crazy.
Yeah, well, that's the whole shit. I couldn't do LA.
Hmm, yeah.
I couldn't do LA. Like, I moved, like I said, from Syracuse to Dallas, and then Dallas to LA when I was 18. And I... It's, it's a lot for me and I couldn't focus the way that I needed to.
Right.
So...
On your music and-
Yeah. Um, I, I never... Like, there's always, you know, before COVID-
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