JRE MMA Show #56 with Brendan Schaub

JRE MMA Show #56 with Brendan Schaub

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJan 17, 20191h 58m

Brendan Schaub (guest), Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Digital surveillance, targeted advertising, and phone/voice listening fearsMuscle cars vs. electric supercars and what makes driving emotionally satisfyingClimate change, California wildfires, and air quality/health impactsFame, fan behavior, and how podcasting changes public personasPEDs, USADA, and controversy around Jon Jones and Brock LesnarMMA matchmaking, fighter legacies, and potential DC–Jon Jones at heavyweightBody-image extremes: limb-lengthening, dick pills, and aesthetic insecurity

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Brendan Schaub and Joe Rogan, JRE MMA Show #56 with Brendan Schaub explores rogan and Schaub Riff on Surveillance, Supercars, Steroids, and Stardom Joe Rogan and Brendan Schaub bounce through a wide-ranging, mostly comedic conversation covering digital surveillance, performance cars, electric vehicles, climate change, and massive California wildfires.

Rogan and Schaub Riff on Surveillance, Supercars, Steroids, and Stardom

Joe Rogan and Brendan Schaub bounce through a wide-ranging, mostly comedic conversation covering digital surveillance, performance cars, electric vehicles, climate change, and massive California wildfires.

They dig into fame culture—fans’ entitlement to photos, life at Chappelle/Rock/Cruise levels of celebrity, and how podcasting changed the relationship between performers and audiences.

A major chunk of the discussion is combat sports: dangerous speed in consumer cars vs. skill, the future of MMA commentary, fighter pay and legacy, scandals around USADA drug testing, and potential superfights like Cormier vs. Jon Jones at heavyweight.

Throughout, they weave in stories about steroids, body modification, Vegas residencies, fashion obsessions, and Joey Diaz’s outrageous storytelling, using humor to explore how technology, media, and ambition shape modern life.

Key Takeaways

Targeted ads are so precise they feel like surveillance—even when coincidence is possible.

Both hosts describe eerily specific ads appearing after conversations or briefly handling objects, underscoring how behavioral targeting blurs the line between data analytics and perceived ‘robots listening’ to everything.

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Automatics and EVs win on performance, but many enthusiasts still crave manual engagement.

Rogan and Schaub both argue that dual-clutch and electric drivetrains beat humans on the track, yet they personally prefer the focus and road feel of stick shifts and loud engines, framing driving as an emotional, not purely technical, experience.

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Catastrophic wildfires expose how unprepared our infrastructure and politics are for climate risk.

They react to images of Paradise and Malibu burned down, question why fireproof construction isn’t standard, and highlight how air quality disasters make the abstract idea of climate change suddenly visceral and health-relevant.

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Extreme celebrity erodes normal social boundaries and turns every interaction into content.

Stories about Dave Chappelle, The Rock, Harrison Ford, and Tebow show fans interrupting private conversations and even physically intruding just to secure selfies, illustrating how social media validation often overrides basic etiquette.

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Podcasting has fundamentally changed how audiences know performers and trust them.

They note that long-form, unedited conversations reveal struggles, relationships, and real opinions that films, TV, or short interviews never could, creating parasocial bonds and turning podcasts into the central engine of many careers.

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Anti-doping science is powerful but imperfect—and public narratives lag behind the nuance.

Rogan lays out the technical case for Jon Jones’s ‘pulsing’ metabolite and tainted supplements, while Schaub maintains skepticism about repeated coincidences, showing how complex pharmacology collides with fans’ desire for simple cheating/not-cheating stories.

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Fighter legacies are era-specific and shaped by matchmaking, timing, and health.

They debate who’s the best heavyweight ever (Fedor, Cain, Stipe, Werdum), noting each dominated a different window with different opposition, and argue that wars like Cain–JDS or GGG–Canelo permanently change fighters’ trajectories.

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Notable Quotes

You don't make money spoiling crime, bro. You make money selling trucks.

Joe Rogan

I feel like you're driving an iPod. I don't care how fast it goes.

Brendan Schaub (on Teslas)

It's one of the few psychiatric disorders that you can actually cure with a knife.

Joe Rogan (quoting a surgeon on height dysphoria and leg-lengthening)

Podcasting is a weird thing, right? What are we doing? We're just talking… There's no other art form where everybody does it.

Joe Rogan

Somewhere in the middle. I'm a middle guy.

Joe Rogan (on climate change doom vs. denial)

Questions Answered in This Episode

How much of our ‘they’re listening’ fear is justified by actual tech practices versus cognitive bias and coincidence?

Joe Rogan and Brendan Schaub bounce through a wide-ranging, mostly comedic conversation covering digital surveillance, performance cars, electric vehicles, climate change, and massive California wildfires.

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Should regulators or automakers put limits on street-legal car performance given how easy it is for unskilled drivers to access supercar-level speed?

They dig into fame culture—fans’ entitlement to photos, life at Chappelle/Rock/Cruise levels of celebrity, and how podcasting changed the relationship between performers and audiences.

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What responsibilities do fans have when interacting with celebrities in public spaces, and where should the line be drawn between access and harassment?

A major chunk of the discussion is combat sports: dangerous speed in consumer cars vs. ...

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Given the ambiguity around microdosing, metabolites, and tainted supplements, how should organizations and fans fairly judge an athlete’s legacy?

Throughout, they weave in stories about steroids, body modification, Vegas residencies, fashion obsessions, and Joey Diaz’s outrageous storytelling, using humor to explore how technology, media, and ambition shape modern life.

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Are fame and relentless productivity (multiple podcasts, tours, appearances) sustainable, or do comedians like Rogan and Schaub risk burnout to stay culturally relevant?

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Transcript Preview

Brendan Schaub

... phone calls. I got nothing to hide.

Joe Rogan

Yee-haw. And we're live, ladies and gentlemen. So I get a message-

Brendan Schaub

Oh, shit. Just like that?

Narrator

<< Just like that, bitches. >>

Joe Rogan

I get a message, uh, from a friend of mine who says that while he was, uh, listening to the show, we were talking about something and then the ads for that thing started showing up. Yeah. Oh, God. It's, uh, it's Fong from, uh, Plastisel. He says, "You guys were talking about slouching with Theo Von today, and this popped up on his feed just now. I never Googled it before." And it's some fucking alarm that goes off, like, when you slouch forward. Have you seen those things? They glue them on you.

Narrator

I- I've been getting an ad for that too.

Joe Rogan

Oh, you have?

Narrator

Yeah.

Brendan Schaub

So maybe it was random?

Joe Rogan

So it might be a coincidence?

Narrator

It could be that or they could be targeting Joe Rogan listeners.

Brendan Schaub

Yeah, which is what they do.

Narrator

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Brendan Schaub

It's the way it works.

Joe Rogan

Uh, so they found out that we were listening?

Narrator

No, they could just be going... I mean, maybe that, but, like, there's a large audience here, so they could just be going after, like-

Joe Rogan

Right.

Narrator

That-

Joe Rogan

But do you think, like, what Adam Guerci said the other day-

Narrator

Yeah. Oh, that's happening, yeah.

Joe Rogan

... that, uh, talking about... He was talking about Toyota trucks-

Brendan Schaub

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

... and then all of a sudden his Google ads started showing up Toyota Tacomas. And he, and he was like, "Dude," he goes, "They're listening. The robots are listening."

Brendan Schaub

Someone's listening, but they're also looking for, like, key terms and stuff like that.

Joe Rogan

But they're listening to your phone as you're having a conversation.

Brendan Schaub

You think?

Joe Rogan

Yes.

Narrator

I, I have a few instances. I took screenshots 'cause I was, it was happen, it happened three s- three consecutive weeks. I touched something. I literally, like, held the object in my hand. And within 12 hours I was getting an ad for it.

Joe Rogan

Maybe you're magic, bro.

Narrator

It's very strange. One of them, I have a little explanation.

Brendan Schaub

This is some Eddie Bravo shit. I don't know, man.

Narrator

The other two are, like-

Brendan Schaub

Yeah.

Narrator

... they're so weird. It's like, "How the fuck am I getting an ad for this thing now?" I've never-

Brendan Schaub

Hmm.

Narrator

... even seen this. I've never talked about it to anybody, I didn't tell anybody I was holding it.

Brendan Schaub

Yeah, you gotta-

Narrator

Got an ad for it.

Brendan Schaub

... always be careful of, like, this idea th- th- you know, because sometimes things are just a coincidence.

Narrator

Mm-hmm.

Brendan Schaub

And this idea that there's some grand conspiracy when it could be easily explained by a coincidence. But the thing that Adam said, he said, uh, he goes, "Uh, mate, n- I never fucking Googled Toyota trucks."

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