Joe Rogan Experience #2468 - Luke Grimes

Joe Rogan Experience #2468 - Luke Grimes

The Joe Rogan ExperienceMar 13, 20262h 40m

Joe Rogan (host), Luke Grimes (guest), Luke Grimes (guest), Luke Grimes (guest)

Yellowstone and Taylor Sheridan’s productivityLaunching a music career late; touring economicsStage fright, imposter syndrome, performance pressureLA culture, fame, and self-censorshipMontana living, migration backlash, small-town dynamicsCombat sports: jiu-jitsu learning curve; street-fight realitiesVegas gambling culture; Dana White stories; slap-fight critiqueHunting and elk fitness; gear and mountain realitiesCreativity process: jokes vs songwriting; muse/disciplineSubstances, addiction pathways, quitting smoking/drinkingAI-generated music and cultural “derivativeness”Bigfoot, fossils, Younger Dryas, and distrust in institutions

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Luke Grimes, Joe Rogan Experience #2468 - Luke Grimes explores luke Grimes on Yellowstone fame, music nerves, and Montana life Luke Grimes reflects on Yellowstone’s unexpected success, Taylor Sheridan’s seemingly impossible workload, and the career shift of releasing country music and touring for the first time at 39–40 while managing family life.

Luke Grimes on Yellowstone fame, music nerves, and Montana life

Luke Grimes reflects on Yellowstone’s unexpected success, Taylor Sheridan’s seemingly impossible workload, and the career shift of releasing country music and touring for the first time at 39–40 while managing family life.

A major thread is performance psychology: both men compare stage fright, imposter syndrome, and the role of pressure, losses, and repetition in building confidence across music, comedy, and fighting.

The conversation expands into lifestyle and values—leaving (or disliking) LA culture, finding peace in Montana, skepticism about gambling/Vegas, and why challenging pursuits like jiu-jitsu and elk hunting “re-center” people.

They end with wide-ranging riffs on substances, risk (motorcycles/horseback riding), AI’s effects on culture, and conspiracy folklore (Bigfoot/flat earth), while returning to the idea that nature and real community are antidotes to modern “phone-driven” anxiety.

Key Takeaways

Yellowstone’s breakout felt unforeseeable—even to the cast.

Grimes says he expected an audience but not the phenomenon it became; both credit Taylor Sheridan’s writing engine and ambition rooted in his late-blooming career and “foot on the gas” mentality.

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Touring is a financial logistics problem as much as an art form.

Grimes explains why musicians often run Thu–Sat runs: the bus, crew, and gear rentals make one-off shows hard to justify, especially for a newer touring act.

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Stage fright can intensify when you’re “front of mic” for the first time.

Grimes played his first real show at 39, blacked out from nerves, and only gradually acclimated; he’s comfortable in the studio but feels pressure when people buy tickets and expect a “real” artist.

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Imposter syndrome is a sign of sanity, not incompetence.

Rogan argues most grounded high performers feel it; Grimes notes it’s stronger in music than acting because he has 20+ years of acting reps but far fewer live music reps.

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LA incentives can mold personalities and dilute creative edge.

Both describe LA as a place where people chase being “picked,” adapt to casting/producer preferences, and self-censor—Rogan calls it a ‘velvet prison’ that can soften comics and performers.

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Hard pursuits (jiu-jitsu, hunting) function like mental hygiene.

Rogan frames jiu-jitsu as so difficult it makes the rest of life easier; Grimes and Rogan describe elk hunting and wilderness time as a “vitamin” that reduces anxiety and restores focus.

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Avoiding street fights is a key benefit of learning to fight.

Rogan says real training creates quiet confidence and threat-recognition; engaging is what gets people killed (falls, stomps, weapons escalation), so skill should reduce—not increase—your willingness to fight.

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Nature and community beat the ‘phone narrative’ of constant crisis.

Grimes says social media can make the world feel awful within a week, while real-life interactions (neighbors, errands, outdoors) quickly restore hope; Rogan agrees phones are a primary ‘bridge to crazy.’

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Notable Quotes

His is impossible… could you write 10 television shows single-handedly? No way.

Luke Grimes

I blacked out, man… not drinking—just blacked out on nerves.

Luke Grimes

Everybody who's sane gets imposter syndrome.

Joe Rogan

LA felt like everybody was trying to become the same person—but they don’t know who that person is.

Luke Grimes

If you can choose what’s hard in your life, you’ll be way better off.

Joe Rogan

Questions Answered in This Episode

What specifically did Luke see on set (or in scripts) that signaled Yellowstone might become a cultural phenomenon—if anything at all?

Luke Grimes reflects on Yellowstone’s unexpected success, Taylor Sheridan’s seemingly impossible workload, and the career shift of releasing country music and touring for the first time at 39–40 while managing family life.

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Luke mentioned he blacked out from nerves at his first show—what practical routines (breathing, beta blockers, rehearsal structure) has he tested since, and what actually works for him?

A major thread is performance psychology: both men compare stage fright, imposter syndrome, and the role of pressure, losses, and repetition in building confidence across music, comedy, and fighting.

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He describes music as ‘less pressure’ because acting pays the bills—does that freedom improve the art, or create new insecurities about legitimacy?

The conversation expands into lifestyle and values—leaving (or disliking) LA culture, finding peace in Montana, skepticism about gambling/Vegas, and why challenging pursuits like jiu-jitsu and elk hunting “re-center” people.

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Rogan calls LA a ‘velvet prison’—what are concrete examples from Luke’s career where fear of industry backlash changed what he said or did publicly?

They end with wide-ranging riffs on substances, risk (motorcycles/horseback riding), AI’s effects on culture, and conspiracy folklore (Bigfoot/flat earth), while returning to the idea that nature and real community are antidotes to modern “phone-driven” anxiety.

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Luke said he might need to quit drinking to quit smoking—what does his ideal ‘replacement habit’ look like (jiu-jitsu, fitness, writing), and how would he structure it with a toddler and filming?

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Joe Rogan

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Joe Rogan

Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day. [upbeat music]

Luke Grimes

This is surreal being here, dude.

Joe Rogan

Is it?

Luke Grimes

Yeah, I've been listening to the show for years.

Joe Rogan

[laughs] Well, I've been watching your show for years.

Luke Grimes

Yeah?

Joe Rogan

Are we rolling, Jamie? All right, beautiful. I love your fucking show. It's great.

Luke Grimes

Ah, thanks, man.

Joe Rogan

It's really awesome, man. Espe- well, I haven't watched Marshals yet. Is it out now?

Luke Grimes

It is.

Joe Rogan

When did it come out?

Luke Grimes

Um, M- March 1st.

Joe Rogan

Oh, okay.

Luke Grimes

So they just had the second episode air.

Joe Rogan

Damn, I like to binge, man.

Luke Grimes

Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan

I like to wait until-

Luke Grimes

Wait a little bit then

Joe Rogan

... stay offline. I like to sit down and binge 'em.

Luke Grimes

For sure.

Joe Rogan

Yeah, but Yellowstone's fucking awesome. It's such a great show. Did you have any idea it was gonna be what it is?

Luke Grimes

Uh, not, no. I don't think anybody did. I thought it would find an audience, for sure. I mean, Taylor was really, you know, hot at the time. He'd, he'd, he'd been nominated for Oscars and I was kinda, like, surprised he was even writing a television show. He was just, like, so hot in the, the film business.

Joe Rogan

How the fuck does that guy even sleep?

Luke Grimes

I don't know, man.

Joe Rogan

Does... Where does he have the time? Every time I look in the news or I t- there's a new show that he's doing, a new thing he's doing. It's like, what, how are you doing all this?

Luke Grimes

It's impressive, you know.

Joe Rogan

It's insane.

Luke Grimes

I feel like, uh, there's a lot of people I've worked with where they do things im- that are impressive, but his is impossible.

Joe Rogan

Right.

Luke Grimes

You know, like, someone'll be like, "Could you direct a movie as good as Unforgiven?" I'm like-

Joe Rogan

Right

Luke Grimes

... maybe. Maybe if I tried real hard. But, like, could you write 10 television shows single-handedly? N- no. No way. Not possible.

Joe Rogan

He directed Unforgiven?

Luke Grimes

No, I'm just saying, like, people-

Joe Rogan

No

Luke Grimes

... that I look up to, that I'm impressed by.

Joe Rogan

Right.

Luke Grimes

It's like, uh, his is a different level.

Joe Rogan

Right. Right, right, right.

Luke Grimes

His is, like, it's, like, impossible.

Joe Rogan

Who did direct Unforgiven?

Luke Grimes

Clint Eastwood.

Joe Rogan

That's the fucking greatest Western movie of all time.

Luke Grimes

It is.

Joe Rogan

It's the best.

Luke Grimes

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

It's like, y- you know what it, what it was like to me? It was like he was making up for all the silly Westerns, and was like, "Let me show you what it was probably really like."

Luke Grimes

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

What it was really like when a man was about to get shot. What it was really like when a dude was a stone cold killer.

Luke Grimes

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

What, what was it really, like, the hardships of living back then.

Luke Grimes

Yeah, and it's interesting too, because he starts out kind of a loser.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Luke Grimes

Those first, you know, like, the first three quarters of the movie, he's this sort of timid guy who's lost his power, you know? And then he takes that one s- sip of whiskey-

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