Joe Rogan Experience #1353 - Rob Zombie
Joe Rogan (host), Rob Zombie (guest), Narrator
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Rob Zombie, Joe Rogan Experience #1353 - Rob Zombie explores rob Zombie on Outsider Art, Horror Films, Bullying, and Persistence Rob Zombie joins Joe Rogan to trace his path from socially anxious New England kid and carnival worker to heavy metal frontman and cult‑horror filmmaker, emphasizing how much of his career came from obsession, improvisation, and sheer persistence rather than formal training.
Rob Zombie on Outsider Art, Horror Films, Bullying, and Persistence
Rob Zombie joins Joe Rogan to trace his path from socially anxious New England kid and carnival worker to heavy metal frontman and cult‑horror filmmaker, emphasizing how much of his career came from obsession, improvisation, and sheer persistence rather than formal training.
They dig into how bullying and outsider status shaped his love of monsters and violent antiheroes, and why that sensibility runs through his films like House of 1000 Corpses, The Devil’s Rejects, and 3 From Hell.
The conversation ranges widely across horror history, practical effects vs. CGI, 1970s pop culture, corrupt cops and violent New York, and the brutal realities of show business development hell.
Underlying it all is a recurring theme: embracing insecurity, ignoring critics, and stubbornly making the specific kind of art that you yourself would want to see.
Key Takeaways
Use your current opportunities as your ‘film school’ or training ground.
Zombie treated directing early White Zombie music videos as a no‑budget film school, using whatever work he had to practice the craft he really wanted rather than waiting for formal permission or education.
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Outsider status and bullying can be powerful long-term fuel.
He credits being bullied, ignored in high school, and feeling like a misfit with giving him a deep identification with monsters and antiheroes—and a sustained drive to prove people wrong.
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Protect your vision from ‘creative by committee,’ even if it costs you.
From turning down early record deals to resisting studio video directors and fighting Weinstein‑era Halloween notes, Zombie repeatedly chose control over scale, arguing that diluted ideas are worse than smaller, purer projects.
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Practical, in‑camera effects still resonate more deeply than pure CGI.
They argue that audiences subconsciously feel the difference when a creature or effect physically occupies space (Alien, American Werewolf in London, Jaws) versus an obviously digital construct, which often becomes visual noise.
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Critical opinions are subjective and often misaligned with lasting impact.
Zombie notes that his early albums and movies were savaged as “worst ever,” yet later revered by fans and even honored by the same outlets—proof that critical reception at release rarely predicts cultural longevity.
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Development hell can quietly consume years; know when to walk away.
He spent years trying to launch passion projects like a Philadelphia Flyers ‘Broad Street Bullies’ film and a late‑life Groucho Marx story, eventually abandoning them after endless rights issues, politics, and stalls.
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You can’t create for ‘the market’; you must create for your own taste.
Zombie repeatedly says he doesn’t understand mainstream hits he dislikes and instead builds movies and music he personally would want to see, trusting that a specific, authentic voice will attract its own audience.
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Notable Quotes
“My whole life is like, ‘Ah, fooled ’em again.’”
— Rob Zombie
“You can be an idiot and make it.”
— Rob Zombie
“I don’t think the rules of real life apply to art.”
— Rob Zombie
“How did he make a movie more entertaining in six days with like 300 dollars than you made with $200 million?”
— Rob Zombie (on Ed Wood)
“The bad feeling is your friend… that’s the medicine.”
— Joe Rogan (on bombing in comedy)
Questions Answered in This Episode
How much of Rob Zombie’s career success is luck and timing versus deliberate strategy and stubbornness?
Rob Zombie joins Joe Rogan to trace his path from socially anxious New England kid and carnival worker to heavy metal frontman and cult‑horror filmmaker, emphasizing how much of his career came from obsession, improvisation, and sheer persistence rather than formal training.
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Does repeatedly depicting ultra-violent outsiders have any real-world psychological or cultural impact, or is it truly ‘just art’?
They dig into how bullying and outsider status shaped his love of monsters and violent antiheroes, and why that sensibility runs through his films like House of 1000 Corpses, The Devil’s Rejects, and 3 From Hell.
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In an age of streaming and algorithms, can a modern filmmaker still gain the broad, eclectic influences Zombie got from old TV and radio?
The conversation ranges widely across horror history, practical effects vs. ...
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What would a Rob Zombie–directed Broad Street Bullies hockey film or Groucho Marx biopic actually look and feel like tonally?
Underlying it all is a recurring theme: embracing insecurity, ignoring critics, and stubbornly making the specific kind of art that you yourself would want to see.
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Given how strongly they defend practical effects, what might a ‘perfect’ modern horror film that balances CGI and in‑camera work look like?
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Here we go. Rob Zombie, ladies and gentlemen. How are you, sir?
Good, good.
Thanks for being here, man. I appreciate it.
Oh, yeah, it's awesome.
Uh, 3 From Hell comes out tonight.
Yes, finally.
It's such a crazy s- leap that you've made. I mean, people know you as much now for your films as they do for your music.
Yeah, pretty much. Especially, w- I've really noticed that when I'd be, like, in an elevator. Like, the music fans, I can pretty much spot them, you know, but, like, when some guy comes up to me in an elevator, looks like he's a lawyer or something-
(laughs)
... which I, I have to get to grips with that 'cause I'm not, you know, I'm old, that every time a cop comes up to me, I'm like, "What does this guy want?" I'm like, "Oh, he's-"
Right.
"... like a fan 'cause he's 30 years younger than me." Um, but, like, yeah, when normal people, like, "Oh, man, I'm so into this or that." 'Cause-
Yeah.
... you know, I figure, like, you know, heavy metal music's very specific, but everybody likes movies.
Right.
So you can never spot the fans.
You can see a metal fan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. The, I can pretty much spot them.
What do you look for? A metal fan? Like, what-
(laughs)
... what do you see, and, like, what's coming your way?
Well, it's changed, but now it's always a guy with a shaved head and a long goatee.
D- dude, that's very similar-
Nobody has hair any-
... to MMA fans (laughs) .
Yeah, nobody has hair anymore. It's like, I swear sometimes I'm on stage and a fan's like, "Who's, what's with the long hair?"
That's funny. Yeah, right? That was rock and roll. It was synonymous.
Yeah. It's, like, not, not anymore.
What made you make that leap into horror films?
Well, I always wanted to make movies. That was always my main goal in life.
Really? Before music?
Well, it was... Well, let me back it up. I loved everything equally but, as a kid, it all seemed unattainable. So it was-
Sure.
... all fantasy. Like, "Oh, yeah. I'm gonna go to Hollywood and make movies. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna have a band." Like, no you're not. You're just living in some crap town and you're gonna do nothing, is what it felt like.
You grew up in Haverhill?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You, you're in Lut-
I, I grew up in Newton.
(laughs)
Newton, Never Falls.
Yeah, it's so funny. I think when I was a kid and played ice hockey, we would play against Newton.
I'm sure.
(laughs)
I think we wrestled you guys (laughs) .
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