Joe Rogan Experience #1703 - Tom Segura

Joe Rogan Experience #1703 - Tom Segura

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 27, 20242h 59m

Narrator, Joe Rogan (host), Tom Segura (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Joe Rogan’s COVID infection, treatment protocol, and ivermectin controversyMedia bias, misinformation, and collapsing trust in news organizationsCOVID vaccines, variants, mandates, and comparative policy (U.S., Israel, Europe, Australia)Parenting, family dynamics, and dark personal/family humorWar, veterans’ trauma, Afghanistan withdrawal, and U.S. foreign policyU.S. domestic politics: Biden, Texas abortion law, crime, prosecutors, and civil libertiesHealth, lifestyle, touring, sobriety, and stand-up comedy after pandemic shutdowns

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #1703 - Tom Segura explores joe Rogan and Tom Segura Deconstruct COVID, Media, Crime, and Insanity Joe Rogan and Tom Segura open with Rogan’s COVID case, detailing his controversial treatment regimen (including ivermectin and monoclonal antibodies) and the media backlash, especially from CNN. They discuss how hard it is to get trustworthy information on COVID, vaccines, and treatments, and how politicization has warped public health debates.

Joe Rogan and Tom Segura Deconstruct COVID, Media, Crime, and Insanity

Joe Rogan and Tom Segura open with Rogan’s COVID case, detailing his controversial treatment regimen (including ivermectin and monoclonal antibodies) and the media backlash, especially from CNN. They discuss how hard it is to get trustworthy information on COVID, vaccines, and treatments, and how politicization has warped public health debates.

The conversation sprawls into parenting, dark family humor, war trauma, Afghanistan, abortion laws in Texas, the war on drugs, crime and policing, and the collapse of trust in news media. They repeatedly return to themes of personal health, government overreach, and the dangers of ideological extremes on both left and right.

They also talk about stand-up comedy post-pandemic, touring health routines, sobriety, Sober October, gun culture, LA vs. Texas, and wild crime stories from arsonists to serial killers. Throughout, they blend serious social criticism with graphic, often absurd humor and personal anecdotes.

The episode functions as a long-form snapshot of how two high-profile comics are processing COVID-era culture: skeptical of institutions, wary of censorship, strongly pro-autonomy, and trying to adapt their own lives and careers to an unstable environment.

Key Takeaways

Early, aggressive COVID treatment and baseline health may significantly influence outcomes.

Rogan attributes his rapid recovery to being generally healthy and “throwing the kitchen sink” at COVID immediately (monoclonal antibodies, high-dose vitamin C and D, NAD drips, ivermectin), arguing timing and pre-existing health status are crucial—even though the evidence on some treatments is debated.

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Media framing can override core facts, eroding public trust.

Rogan is less upset that people mocked ivermectin than that major outlets repeatedly called it “horse dewormer” despite its human use history, while ignoring that he recovered quickly; he and Segura see this as emblematic of agenda-driven coverage on both COVID and politics.

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COVID and vaccines have become tribal identity markers instead of medical choices.

They note how positions on vaccines, treatments, and mandates now signal political team membership (right = anti-vax, left = pro-Fauci), making nuanced, case-by-case thinking socially costly and obscuring questions like natural immunity vs. ...

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Overreach in public health policy risks morphing into long-term authoritarian norms.

They criticize vaccine-passport regimes (e. ...

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Local criminal justice experiments can quickly destabilize public safety.

Through examples like LA’s progressive DA policies, California arson cases, and a Malibu machete attack, they argue that under-enforcement and ideological prosecution standards are already creating real-world danger and citizen backlash (e. ...

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Personal discipline—sleep, sobriety, and structured health routines—becomes non‑negotiable under heavy workloads.

Both describe learning the hard way that late nights, heavy drinking, and nonstop travel lead to illness and underperformance; they now build in IV drips, exercise, sleep prioritization, and even month-long sobriety (Sober October) to sustain touring at scale.

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Long-form, unscripted conversations fill a vacuum left by politicized, compressed media formats.

They argue the seven-minute, ad-driven TV segment model incentivizes sensationalism and clear villains/heroes, while podcasts allow people to show uncertainty, change their minds, and process complex issues—something they believe mainstream news no longer provides.

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Notable Quotes

They keep saying I'm taking horse dewormer. I literally got it from a doctor.

Joe Rogan

It’s mostly not doctors that have the strongest opinions about all of this.

Tom Segura

Imagine spending any time whatsoever wishing that a person felt bad. It’s the dumbest fucking thing you could ever spend your energy on.

Joe Rogan

I still struggle with the idea of why so many guys think… you’re not carrying it, man.

Tom Segura, on abortion restrictions

I don’t know how that state turns around… it’s like this demise that seems like the slide has begun and there’s no mechanism in place that’s gonna turn it around.

Joe Rogan, on California

Questions Answered in This Episode

How should we balance the need to combat misinformation with the risk of suppressing legitimate medical debate and off-label treatments?

Joe Rogan and Tom Segura open with Rogan’s COVID case, detailing his controversial treatment regimen (including ivermectin and monoclonal antibodies) and the media backlash, especially from CNN. ...

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What concrete reforms—if any—could restore public trust in major news organizations across the political spectrum?

The conversation sprawls into parenting, dark family humor, war trauma, Afghanistan, abortion laws in Texas, the war on drugs, crime and policing, and the collapse of trust in news media. ...

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How far should governments be allowed to go with vaccine mandates, health passports, and digital surveillance tools in the name of public safety?

They also talk about stand-up comedy post-pandemic, touring health routines, sobriety, Sober October, gun culture, LA vs. ...

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Are progressive criminal justice experiments in large cities improving long-term equity, or are they creating new forms of harm that will provoke a hard swing back?

The episode functions as a long-form snapshot of how two high-profile comics are processing COVID-era culture: skeptical of institutions, wary of censorship, strongly pro-autonomy, and trying to adapt their own lives and careers to an unstable environment.

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Given the realities of modern touring and high-stress careers, what sustainable health and sobriety strategies actually work for performers—and how replicable are they for ordinary people?

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Narrator

(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) My man. What's up?

Tom Segura

Hey, man. How are-

Joe Rogan

What's up, brother?

Tom Segura

Well, well, well.

Joe Rogan

Well, well, well.

Tom Segura

If it isn't old horse worm Rogan.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tom Segura

(laughs) I'm glad you're, I'm glad you're well, man.

Joe Rogan

Bro, do I have to sue CNN?

Narrator

I don't know.

Tom Segura

I don't know. Do you?

Joe Rogan

They're making shit up. They keep saying I'm taking horse dewormer. I literally got it from a doctor. It's an, uh, American company.

Tom Segura

Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan

It's, uh, it, they won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for use in human beings.

Tom Segura

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

And CNN is saying I'm taking horse dewormer.

Tom Segura

Yeah, what, so-

Narrator

Well, that's-

Joe Rogan

They must know that that's a lie.

Narrator

There's a lot of people saying it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

Right, but a lot of people can say it.

Narrator

Okay.

Joe Rogan

Like, the internet says it. Who cares?

Tom Segura

Sure. But it's-

Joe Rogan

But CNN is saying it.

Narrator

Well, anyway.

Joe Rogan

Like, Jim Acosta.

Narrator

I, I meant, like, uh, like, USA Today, a few other, like-

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Narrator

... places, not just people.

Tom Segura

And they're talking ab- of- about ivermectin, right?

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tom Segura

So what ... 'Cause I don't know. I just saw (blows raspberry) so much news-

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tom Segura

... about you. I mean, I would talk to you and check on you and see if you're all right, and you're like-

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Tom Segura

You, you, you threw the kitchen sink at it, you said.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tom Segura

Which was stuff that, you know, you took IV drips and what was it? Mono what? Mono-

Joe Rogan

Monoclonal antibodies.

Tom Segura

And that ... What is monoclonal antibodies?

Joe Rogan

The shit they gave Trump.

Tom Segura

Okay.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Tom Segura

And then what ... So who said or did you already want ivermectin? Like-

Joe Rogan

Well, I had this guy on, Dr. Pierre Kory, and he is, uh, what is the organization he's from? Frontline cr- COVID critical care workers?

Narrator

Yeah, there's a lot of Cs.

Joe Rogan

He's a well-established doctor, has treated thousands of people with COVID, and they've, uh, the, early on in the pandemic, they found some good, uh, efficacy with, uh, with g- with, um, ivermectin. Frontline 19 Critical Care Alliance.

Tom Segura

Okay.

Joe Rogan

Yeah. Um, so I had him on, and, you know, he had talked to me about it. He's not, he's not the only doctor that told me to take it. Multiple doctors told me to take it.

Tom Segura

Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan

It's, uh, it's supposed to have, uh, what is the exact thing it's supposed to do? There's, there's something that I highlighted. Um, th- and this is ... Obviously, I'm not a doctor. It says, "I- ivermectin was found to be a blocker of viral, uh, replica- e- replicase, R-E-P-L-I-C-A-S-E protease," and I don't know what this word is, "human TMPRSS2." I don't know. But what they didn't highlight-

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