Joe Rogan Experience #1843 - Paul VIrzi

Joe Rogan Experience #1843 - Paul VIrzi

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 27, 20243h 3m

Narrator, Joe Rogan (host), Paul Virzi (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Verzi’s father’s close-range UFO encounter and broader UFO/alien theoriesStand-up comedy craft, bombing stories, and the changing business modelParenting, kids’ autonomy, and talking honestly about insecurity and failurePerformance-enhancing drugs in sports and the steroid era in baseballCancel culture, free speech, and how Netflix/Spotify handled controversial comicsMental health, anxiety, OCD, depression, and coping strategies for comicsLife balance: family vs. career, moving out of cities, exercise, hunting, and aging

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #1843 - Paul VIrzi explores uFOs, comedy grind, mental health, parenting, and cancel culture collide Joe Rogan and comedian Paul Verzi range widely from Verzi’s father’s detailed 1973 UFO sighting to modern UFO theories and Bob Lazar’s claims about antigravity propulsion. They dive deep into stand-up comedy as a craft and business: bombing, bad gigs, the end of gatekeepers, special releases, and how podcasting and social media reshaped the ‘industry.’ The conversation also tackles parenting philosophies, drugs and performance enhancement in sports, cancel culture and free speech in comedy, plus Verzi’s own severe bout with anxiety and depression and how he rebuilt. Throughout, they weave in stories about fame, aging comics, culture-war politics, and the importance of personal growth, exercise, and perspective.

UFOs, comedy grind, mental health, parenting, and cancel culture collide

Joe Rogan and comedian Paul Verzi range widely from Verzi’s father’s detailed 1973 UFO sighting to modern UFO theories and Bob Lazar’s claims about antigravity propulsion. They dive deep into stand-up comedy as a craft and business: bombing, bad gigs, the end of gatekeepers, special releases, and how podcasting and social media reshaped the ‘industry.’ The conversation also tackles parenting philosophies, drugs and performance enhancement in sports, cancel culture and free speech in comedy, plus Verzi’s own severe bout with anxiety and depression and how he rebuilt. Throughout, they weave in stories about fame, aging comics, culture-war politics, and the importance of personal growth, exercise, and perspective.

Key Takeaways

Firsthand UFO accounts often share strikingly consistent details.

Verzi’s father describes a silent, close-range ‘flying saucer’ in 1973 with distorted time perception—details that line up with modern pilot sightings and Bob Lazar’s descriptions of gravity-manipulating craft.

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The comedy ‘industry’ is now largely owned by comedians themselves.

Rogan argues gatekeepers are essentially gone: comics can self-produce specials (often on YouTube), build audiences via podcasts and social media, and rely on other comics’ word-of-mouth rather than networks or executives.

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Bombing and hell gigs are painful but foundational for growth.

Both recount brutal shows—from strip-club emceeing to outdoor rich-guy roasts—and emphasize that analyzing those failures is how you toughen up, refine material, and learn to handle any room.

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Honest, vulnerable communication is central to both parenting and mentorship.

Rogan and Verzi stress telling kids about your own failures and insecurities, listening rather than over-controlling, and balancing love with freedom so children don’t rebel or perform just to be ‘cool.’

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Mental health struggles can coexist with external success—and be survivable.

Verzi describes a 90-day period of severe depression, panic, and OCD where he was convinced he was dying; therapy, low-dose medication, exercise, and support helped him climb out, and talking about it publicly has helped others.

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Cancel culture pressure is real, but corporate responses now vary.

They contrast companies that cave to outrage mobs with Netflix and Spotify, which publicly defended controversial content (like Chappelle and Rogan) and essentially told employees who object to leave.

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Physical exertion is a powerful tool for emotional regulation and clarity.

Rogan credits martial arts and rigorous exercise with transforming his anger and anxiety into calm and kindness, while citing research that cardio can be as effective as antidepressants for many people.

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Notable Quotes

“What I don’t like about seeing it was I knew that I was seeing something that was just unexplained and not from here.”

Paul Verzi, relaying his father’s UFO experience

“There’s no more gatekeepers. That shit’s gone. The gatekeepers are each other.”

Joe Rogan

“Being a loser is good for you, because it teaches you that that sucks… and that feeling becomes your fuel.”

Joe Rogan

“Everybody said no to me for 15 years in this business… I was killing in obscurity.”

Paul Verzi

“Comedy is what I do, it’s not who I am. Who I am is my family and my life.”

Paul Verzi

Questions Answered in This Episode

How do Verzi’s father’s UFO details compare to other well-documented sightings and contemporary military reports?

Joe Rogan and comedian Paul Verzi range widely from Verzi’s father’s detailed 1973 UFO sighting to modern UFO theories and Bob Lazar’s claims about antigravity propulsion. ...

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In a world without traditional gatekeepers, what specific strategies now separate breakout comedians from those who stay ‘killing in obscurity’?

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Where should comics personally draw the line between creative freedom and sensitivity when tackling topics like race, gender, or trauma?

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How can performers distinguish between everyday anxiety and a more serious mental health crisis like the one Verzi describes—and what early interventions actually help?

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If rigorous exercise and lifestyle changes can rival antidepressants for many people, how should that reshape the way we think about and treat depression and anxiety?

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Transcript Preview

Narrator

(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Tell me when you're ready.

Joe Rogan

I'm ready.

Narrator

Okay. Oh, we'll have that rolling, Paul Verzin. What the fuck?

Paul Virzi

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

So, tell me the UFO story.

Paul Virzi

(laughs) All right. Um, well, first, I'm going to tell you about my dad real quick.

Joe Rogan

Okay.

Paul Virzi

My dad is Sicilian to the fuck... He... Born and raised Bronx, okay? Grew up in the 1960s in the Bronx. Always has to dress nice, you know. Very materialistic. A man needs a watch.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Paul Virzi

A man needs shoes. Okay? Me and my brother were in the car one time. My father would do this shit. We were young. He shouldn't have, but he would be like, he'd be like, "Look at that. You see that? That's a fucking disgrace." He'd be like, "That's a man in a Honda." You know?

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Paul Virzi

And he'd be like, "Th- th- there's kids in that fucking car." Like, like that.

Joe Rogan

Wow.

Paul Virzi

1982 Jaguar XJ6, black, white leather. Dressed to the nines. You know, everybody's crazy but him.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Paul Virzi

"Fucking, they're crazy. Fucking..." Right? So, tells me and my brother a story. To this day, the story's not changed, and he told me he wished he never saw what he saw. 1973, my mother is pregnant with my older brother, Christian. Uh, he's five years older than me. Okay? So, uh, she's pregnant with him. They're outside in Yonkers. There's a little grass lot. And my aunt, grandmother, and mother are out there, and they're screaming, "Tommy, you got to come out here! You got to come out here." So, the way my father tells this story, he goes, "I'm watching TV. What the fuck?" You know? "I- I don't want to be bothered." He goes, "I go outside," and he said, "Paul," he said, "sitting where I could throw a rock or shoot my gun at it, there is a fucking..." And the way he s- he said flying saucer, which is fucking hilarious, but he goes, "There's a fucking flying saucer," and he said, "it's got a blue tint around it, little port holes, but you could barely see. Quiet. Quiet as can be." And he said they were all... And he said the time was weird. The time of night was weird. It was like that weird time where the sun's going down, you don't know. He said the timing of it was weird, and he said his time perception during it was, was very, something was off with the time. And he said he thought, he said, "Holy shit, I could fucking shoot my gun at this thing." But then he goes, he goes, "Then I freaked out because I don't know if this thing's reading my fucking mind, so I went inside."

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Paul Virzi

'Cause he thought that it might've been... So, he went inside, he looked again. He went outside, they looked at it, they were stunned, and he said, "And like that, it turned into a dot in the sky." Uh, he said, "Like that, it turned into a star like that." And he says, to this day, exactly the same thing. He goes, "Paul, I always used to think those people were fucking nuts." He goes, "All those people, I thought they were fucking hillbillies somewhere in the Midwest just trying to get attention." He goes, "I know what the fuck I saw." And he goes, "And I wish I didn't see it because I still dream about it and I know what the fuck I saw and I know it wasn't from here. That's 100% true."

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