Joe Rogan Experience #2225 - Dave Smith
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In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #2225 - Dave Smith explores rogan and Dave Smith Deconstruct Trump’s Win, Media Lies, and War Joe Rogan and comedian–political commentator Dave Smith unpack Donald Trump’s decisive 2024 election win, arguing it proves both that voting still matters and that establishment media has lost narrative control. They contrast Trump’s first term and current mandate with the Biden/Harris era, focusing on immigration, foreign wars, and economic policy, while warning Trump could ruin his mandate by rehiring neocon figures like Mike Pompeo and Lindsey Graham.
Rogan and Dave Smith Deconstruct Trump’s Win, Media Lies, and War
Joe Rogan and comedian–political commentator Dave Smith unpack Donald Trump’s decisive 2024 election win, arguing it proves both that voting still matters and that establishment media has lost narrative control. They contrast Trump’s first term and current mandate with the Biden/Harris era, focusing on immigration, foreign wars, and economic policy, while warning Trump could ruin his mandate by rehiring neocon figures like Mike Pompeo and Lindsey Graham.
A major throughline is their contempt for corporate media: Russiagate, COVID coverage, censorship, and the criminalization of Trump are framed as systemic propaganda that backfired and destroyed public trust. They also examine the Gaza and Ukraine wars, arguing the U.S. should stop funding foreign conflicts and instead pursue non‑interventionist, “America First” policies with advisers like RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, JD Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Tucker Carlson.
The conversation repeatedly returns to cultural shifts: the collapse of protest energy against Trump, the rise of podcasts and X/Twitter over legacy outlets, the failure of cancel culture (e.g., Tony Hinchcliffe, Andrew Schultz), and contentious issues like abortion, vaccines, and free speech. They close by stressing the need for Trump to end wars, reform appointments, and support psychedelic therapy for veterans while the public finds information outside mainstream channels.
Key Takeaways
Trump now has a clear policy mandate and better team—if he avoids neocons.
Smith argues 2024 is unlike 2016: Trump won the popular vote by millions and the Electoral College decisively, on a platform of border security, ending “stupid foreign wars,” and fixing the economy. ...
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Legacy media’s credibility collapse made their anti‑Trump narrative ineffective.
They argue Russiagate (which relied on opposition research and FISA abuses), hysterical COVID coverage, and years of calling Trump “Hitler” exhausted public trust. ...
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Alternative media and X/Twitter now drive political perception more than TV.
Rogan and Smith emphasize the reach of long‑form podcasts and X—citing Rogan’s own Trump and Elon Musk episodes, and Andrew Schultz, Theo Von, NELK, etc. ...
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There is broad appetite for ending foreign wars, but Israel policy is a flashpoint.
On Ukraine, they say it’s now acknowledged there was a plausible peace deal and that NATO refused to codify neutrality, provoking war. ...
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Weaponizing law and censorship against political enemies is seen as authoritarian creep.
They frame Trump’s 34-count New York conviction, Russiagate prosecutions, social‑media deplatforming of dissenting doctors, and FBI entrapment cases as examples of the system inventing novel legal theories and information controls rather than neutrally enforcing law. ...
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Cancel culture is losing power; backlashes are now boosting its targets.
Stories about Tony Hinchcliffe’s Puerto Rico joke, Schultz’s venue cancellation, and Andrew Tate’s deplatforming all illustrate a pattern: attempts to morally destroy figures often translate into larger audiences, new bits, and sold‑out shows. ...
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Systemic health crises and veteran trauma demand unconventional solutions, including psychedelics.
They highlight alarming stats on obesity, chronic illness, and military unfitness, as well as PTSD and suicides among veterans used in “stupid wars. ...
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Notable Quotes
“They cried wolf way too many times. Joy Reid comparing him to Hitler was working for Trump, not against him.”
— Dave Smith
“If Donald Trump secures the border and ends the war in Ukraine and does something to help the economy, put him on Mount Rushmore.”
— Dave Smith
“You guys spread misinformation to the biggest news audience in the world for three years, and when it turned out it wasn’t true, you never apologized.”
— Joe Rogan (on Russiagate and corporate media)
“The problem isn’t that I’m so amazing at debates—it’s that I’m right in what I’m arguing, and that makes it much easier.”
— Dave Smith
“We are one team. This is Team USA, and there’s plenty of room for everybody. We all want the same things… we can all do this together.”
— Joe Rogan
Questions Answered in This Episode
If Trump genuinely tried to “drain the swamp” in a second term, what concrete personnel and structural changes would actually prevent the re‑capture of his administration by neocon and establishment forces?
Joe Rogan and comedian–political commentator Dave Smith unpack Donald Trump’s decisive 2024 election win, arguing it proves both that voting still matters and that establishment media has lost narrative control. ...
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How should a future administration balance strong support for Israel’s security with an “America First” pledge not to fund or politically cover for operations many see as collective punishment or worse in Gaza?
A major throughline is their contempt for corporate media: Russiagate, COVID coverage, censorship, and the criminalization of Trump are framed as systemic propaganda that backfired and destroyed public trust. ...
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To what extent did podcasts and X/Twitter—not just Trump’s personality or Biden’s record—fundamentally alter the 2024 election compared with 2016 and 2020?
The conversation repeatedly returns to cultural shifts: the collapse of protest energy against Trump, the rise of podcasts and X/Twitter over legacy outlets, the failure of cancel culture (e. ...
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What mechanisms could realistically restore public trust in institutions after Russiagate, COVID mis/disinformation, and perceived weaponization of the legal system—if any?
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How far should psychedelic therapies be integrated into mainstream healthcare for veterans and civilians, and what ethical or medical safeguards would be necessary to avoid new forms of abuse or exploitation?
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And I couldn't, even after we got off the phone last night-
You good?
... I was like, "I'm gonna go to bed now."
I couldn't get either.
And then I just had to watch clips of-
What time did I call you, like 3:00?
3:30, something like that.
Yeah, I was just sitting in front of YouTube watching professional pool on TV going-
(laughs)
... "What the fuck is going on?" So turns out voting works. It's real. As much as we (laughs) fucking thought they had it rigged, as much as we thought there was shenanigans and bullshit and it's just a, a puppet show and there's no way anybody could buck the system, turns out voting is still real.
At least partially.
At least if it's too big to rig.
Yes.
And clearly he was too big to rig.
Yeah. Wasn't it... It, it was crazy because it was like for, for weeks, especially in the close of the campaign, it was one of those things where it felt like... It, it almost felt like, uh, 2008 when Obama was running against McCain and it was just so obvious Obama was running away with this. Everything you could see and, and observe, his crowd sizes, the enthusiasm, the culture, it was all behind him. But at that time, the polls were reflecting what you saw everywhere. Obama's up big. He's about to... John McCain's not gonna win after eight years of George W. Bush. The country doesn't want another war hawk. They want this, you know, articulate young peace guy.
Right.
And it was like that with Trump where it's like all the signs are that he's clearly running away with this, but then every single poll told you no, this is the closest election of your lifetime. And then it was just... There was a very interesting feeling to see it and be like, "Oh, okay. I'm not crazy. I was observing all the things I was observing."
Do you know what, what Trump told me about the polls?
No. What?
He's like, "They're bullshit."
(laughs)
"They don't do anything. You give them money-"
Oh yeah.
"... they come back, they have these results you don't know."
He was like, "They charge 500 grand-"
Who are they talking to? Yeah.
For... Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's right.
Yeah.
He's right. And the media gaslit us to the, the, the absolute limits of their ability. The absolute limits. Joy Reid spent the entire time she was discussing Trump the other day comparing him to Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, talking about a right wing authoritarian regime.
Yep.
As if he had never been president for four years and didn't behave like any of those things.
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