Joe Rogan Experience #1502 - Russell Peters

Joe Rogan Experience #1502 - Russell Peters

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJul 3, 20202h 28m

Joe Rogan (host), Russell Peters (guest), Jamie Vernon (guest), Unidentified in-studio guest (guest)

Impact of COVID-19 on restaurants, comedy clubs, and live performanceHomelessness and tent cities in Los Angeles and their social/economic effectsAmerican individualism, entitlement, and resistance to masks and restrictionsHealthcare systems, COVID death counting, and U.S. vs. Canadian modelsMartial arts training, jiu-jitsu strategy, injuries, and MMA “Mount Rushmore”Comedy careers, cancel culture, and reinvention (Schulz, Burr, Eddie Murphy, etc.)Psychedelics, microdosing, DMT experiences, and mental health potential

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Russell Peters, Joe Rogan Experience #1502 - Russell Peters explores joe Rogan And Russell Peters Weigh Risks, Comedy, And Psychedelics Joe Rogan and Russell Peters have a long, loose conversation that jumps from COVID lockdowns, comedy club closures, and homeless tent cities in LA to jiu-jitsu, MMA legends, and the economics of healthcare.

Joe Rogan And Russell Peters Weigh Risks, Comedy, And Psychedelics

Joe Rogan and Russell Peters have a long, loose conversation that jumps from COVID lockdowns, comedy club closures, and homeless tent cities in LA to jiu-jitsu, MMA legends, and the economics of healthcare.

They dig into how stand-up comics are surviving the pandemic, how teaching and drilling improve performance (in both martial arts and comedy), and the culture clash around masks, protests, and American individualism.

The pair share personal stories about Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, Mike Tyson, Ron White, and others, using them to illustrate fame, ego, and the changing rules of cancel culture and social media.

Later, they explore psychedelics (mushrooms, DMT, ayahuasca), microdosing, and what those experiences can teach about ego, perspective, and not taking life too seriously.

Key Takeaways

COVID’s second shutdown wave hit performers and venues just as they were about to recover.

Rogan and Peters describe LA restaurants and The Comedy Store planning creative ‘restaurant-only’ reopens, only to be shut down again after case spikes, underscoring the fragility of entertainment and hospitality businesses.

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Outdoor, distanced environments are far safer than indoor, crowded ones—and policy often ignores that.

They criticize closing beaches while allowing dense protests or packed indoor spaces, pointing to data that sunlight rapidly deactivates the virus and arguing for more nuanced, science-based restrictions.

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Counting COVID deaths and hospital incentives muddy public trust in the numbers.

Both share anecdotes of terminal patients being classified as COVID deaths and note that privately owned hospitals may have financial incentives tied to COVID coding, feeding public skepticism.

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Teaching and drilling—not just “sparring for fun”—are what actually level up skills.

Rogan stresses that in jiu-jitsu, most people love rolling but avoid repetitive drilling; those who teach and drill (like Eddie Bravo or his friend Brent) make huge performance jumps, a lesson Peters links to comedy craft too.

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The pandemic is forcing comics to diversify beyond live stand-up or risk financial collapse.

Peters admits stand-up is his sole income and this crisis “kicked him in the nuts,” while Rogan points to Andrew Schulz’s online pivot and pushes Peters to finally launch his own podcast as a hedge.

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Cancel culture often erases context, intent, and the “temporary” nature of thoughts on podcasts.

They argue transcripts and clipped jokes ignore tone, cadence, and intent, and that riffed, in-the-moment lines on podcasts are unfairly treated as permanent, definitive statements.

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Psychedelics can radically shift perspective but require respect, proper dosing, and safe settings.

Rogan explains microdosing as sub-perceptible and functional, describes intense DMT trips that feel more “real” than reality, and offers to sit with Peters for a gentle first mushroom experience instead of a reckless high-dose plunge.

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Notable Quotes

If I was to read a transcript of everything I said tonight, I'd be like, 'This guy's a piece of shit.'

Russell Peters

There’s also temporary thoughts that go down as permanent record.

Joe Rogan

It’s very hard to be a wild comedian in this day and age with social media and cancel culture.

Joe Rogan

You can’t be tribal if you were never in a tribe.

Russell Peters

The mushrooms want you to like them the first time you do it.

Joe Rogan

Questions Answered in This Episode

How should policymakers balance public health restrictions with the economic survival of small venues and performers?

Joe Rogan and Russell Peters have a long, loose conversation that jumps from COVID lockdowns, comedy club closures, and homeless tent cities in LA to jiu-jitsu, MMA legends, and the economics of healthcare.

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Where is the ethical line between accurately counting COVID deaths and financially incentivized over-attribution?

They dig into how stand-up comics are surviving the pandemic, how teaching and drilling improve performance (in both martial arts and comedy), and the culture clash around masks, protests, and American individualism.

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What would a realistic, American version of universal healthcare look like that avoids the worst flaws of both the U.S. and Canadian systems?

The pair share personal stories about Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, Mike Tyson, Ron White, and others, using them to illustrate fame, ego, and the changing rules of cancel culture and social media.

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How can comedians and other artists future-proof their careers against shocks like pandemics without diluting their craft?

Later, they explore psychedelics (mushrooms, DMT, ayahuasca), microdosing, and what those experiences can teach about ego, perspective, and not taking life too seriously.

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If psychedelics can reduce ego and increase perspective, should they play a formal role in treating anxiety, addiction, or even the social polarization we’re seeing now?

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Joe Rogan

Russell.

Russell Peters

Joseph.

Joe Rogan

My man.

Russell Peters

Oh, we're live.

Joe Rogan

We're live. We're-

Russell Peters

I-

Joe Rogan

... sort of live. Salud, brother.

Russell Peters

Oh.

Joe Rogan

Always good to see you, my friend.

Russell Peters

You too, thanks.

Joe Rogan

It's been a while.

Russell Peters

Midday drinking, I like it.

Joe Rogan

Sometimes you need it. I had a steak for breakfast.

Russell Peters

I saw you post-

Joe Rogan

Midday drinking.

Russell Peters

... something about that.

Joe Rogan

Yeah. Yeah, I was like, "Fuck it. I don't wanna eat breakfast food today. I wanna eat a steak."

Russell Peters

What kind of steak?

Joe Rogan

Um, I got it from Evan Funke, who's the head chef of Felix, and they were preparing to reopen. Felix is, uh, my favorite restaurant in Venice. Have you ever been?

Russell Peters

Right. No, I've not.

Joe Rogan

Phenomenal. Bryan Callen took, uh, turned me on to it.

Russell Peters

Okay.

Joe Rogan

Um, and, um, they came in, him and, uh, the owner Janet came in to do a podcast, and, uh, they gave me some steaks. So I cooked one of them today.

Russell Peters

What kind of cut was it?

Joe Rogan

It was, is a T-bone, fat, big, thick T-bone. They were about to reopen, and now they got shut down again.

Russell Peters

Do they not have a patio they can open?

Joe Rogan

I don't believe they do, and I don't even think you're allowed to do that now.

Russell Peters

No, you're, I think you're allowed to patio still. You're just not allowed to eat indoors-

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Russell Peters

... as far as I, as far as I know.

Joe Rogan

Well, that's good.

Russell Peters

I went, I went to the, uh, deli by my house yesterday, and I went, "Can I sit inside?" And they were like, "No, it's not allowed anymore." I go, "Oh." So I had to sit on the patio, but it was fine.

Joe Rogan

They were gonna do, uh, something at The Comedy Store where they were gonna serve chicken fingers and just food and allow people to drink.

Russell Peters

Yes.

Joe Rogan

You know? And just ser- start, uh, opening it as a-

Russell Peters

I s-

Joe Rogan

... restaurant only.

Russell Peters

Yeah, I saw that. And then I guess it's not happening now?

Joe Rogan

No, they shut it down because right when they were about to do it, then LA shut down the restaurants.

Russell Peters

That's so shitty.

Joe Rogan

Well, it's wor- it's, it's real shitty, man. It's real shitty. Um, and what's extra shitty about it is, um, y- you know, they were almost out of the woods. They were right about to reopen again.

Russell Peters

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

But because of the uptick.

Russell Peters

Yeah, California spiked harder than everyone else almost.

Joe Rogan

Yeah, wow.

Russell Peters

It's like Texas-

Joe Rogan

We had a lot of protesters.

Russell Peters

... California, and then, uh, Florida.

Joe Rogan

Yeah, there was a lot of protesting.

Russell Peters

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

And people wanna pretend it's not the protesting. I'm 100% for the protesting. Don't get me wrong, but I'm also 100% for freedom.

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