Joe Rogan Experience #2244 - Ryan Graves

Joe Rogan Experience #2244 - Ryan Graves

The Joe Rogan ExperienceDec 17, 20242h 48m

Narrator, Narrator, Joe Rogan (host), Ryan Graves (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Recent drone/UAP incursions over the Eastern seaboard and U.S. basesDismissal of the “missing nuke” and gamma-radiation-search narrativeGovernment detection limits, legal barriers, and response constraintsGraves’ Navy UAP encounters (Gimbal, Go Fast, “cube in a sphere”)Foreign adversary drone capabilities and changing nature of warfareSpeculation on advanced propulsion, gravity manipulation, and cold fusionDisclosure vs. discovery: how the U.S. should approach UAP transparency

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Narrator, Joe Rogan Experience #2244 - Ryan Graves explores ryan Graves Dissects Mysterious Drones, UAP Secrets, And Future Threats Joe Rogan and former Navy F/A-18 pilot Ryan Graves discuss the recent wave of mysterious drone/UAP incursions over the U.S., especially along the East Coast and near military bases, and why official explanations remain vague or absent.

Ryan Graves Dissects Mysterious Drones, UAP Secrets, And Future Threats

Joe Rogan and former Navy F/A-18 pilot Ryan Graves discuss the recent wave of mysterious drone/UAP incursions over the U.S., especially along the East Coast and near military bases, and why official explanations remain vague or absent.

Graves relays what he’s hearing from weapons-of-mass-destruction experts—that the current drone activity is *not* about a missing nuclear weapon—while outlining how unusual flight behavior, signature management, and scale still make the situation a serious security concern.

The conversation revisits Graves’ own Navy encounters with UAPs, the Gimbal and Go Fast videos, and systemic obstacles inside government that prevent transparent investigation or disclosure, including legal, bureaucratic, and political constraints.

They broaden the discussion to potential foreign adversary tech, advanced propulsion, quantum computing, AI, and even underwater civilizations, arguing that genuine transparency and a serious national-level scientific effort are needed to understand what these objects are.

Key Takeaways

Current East Coast drones are unlikely to be hunting a missing nuclear weapon.

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The drone/UAP incursions are real, large-scale, and technologically puzzling.

Incidents have recurred for at least three years around bases like Langley and now appear across multiple states, featuring hundreds of objects that fly in groups, stay aloft for many hours, make sharp maneuvers at low altitude, and often evade infrared and radar tracking.

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Existing U.S. law and bureaucracy significantly hamstring rapid drone/UAP response.

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Graves’ Navy squadron experienced persistent UAPs that outperformed known aircraft.

Upgraded radars began detecting stationary, subsonic, and supersonic objects invisible to the eye but visible on multiple sensors; pilots nearly collided with a “black cube in a clear sphere,” and later recorded the Gimbal and Go Fast videos of formations and maneuvering craft with anomalous signatures.

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The U.S. risks falling behind adversaries if it keeps UAP-related R&D too secret.

Graves argues that if China is freely investing in extended electrodynamics, cold fusion, and related exotic physics while the U. ...

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A national, unclassified scientific effort could break the UAP stalemate.

He proposes elevating UAP study to the White House science apparatus, using DOE compute power, national sensor data (radar, weather, satellites), and open scientific collaboration to create repeatable detections, rather than relying on a constrained Pentagon office.

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Public pressure and credible witnesses are forcing UAP into the mainstream.

Graves notes that commercial and military pilots across all major airlines are now quietly reporting incidents, organizations like his (Americans for Safe Aerospace) are growing rapidly, and the stigma is eroding—boosting the odds of eventual disclosure or decisive discovery.

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Notable Quotes

“People are absolutely seeing things that seem to be exhibiting capabilities beyond state of the art. Boom, end of conversation right there.”

Ryan Graves

“If this is not a foreign adversary, then we have to make the assumption that it's a U.S. citizen that's operating these. Because of that, they essentially need a warrant in order to wiretap these.”

Ryan Graves

“There’s no government on Earth that has the right to hold that information… that we're not alone in the universe potentially.”

Ryan Graves

“If you are in contact with aliens… that’s not yours. That’s not yours to tell. That’s the human race’s.”

Joe Rogan

“We have AI. We have quantum. We have mysterious objects showing up on the coast. It does seem like a lot of things are converging right now.”

Ryan Graves

Questions Answered in This Episode

If the government truly doesn’t know what these drones/UAPs are, what concrete steps should they be taking in the next 6–12 months to find out?

Joe Rogan and former Navy F/A-18 pilot Ryan Graves discuss the recent wave of mysterious drone/UAP incursions over the U. ...

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How can the U.S. balance necessary military secrecy with the public’s right to know about phenomena that potentially redefine humanity’s place in the universe?

Graves relays what he’s hearing from weapons-of-mass-destruction experts—that the current drone activity is *not* about a missing nuclear weapon—while outlining how unusual flight behavior, signature management, and scale still make the situation a serious security concern.

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If China or another adversary is indeed ahead in exotic propulsion or drone swarming, what would be the earliest warning signs visible to the public?

The conversation revisits Graves’ own Navy encounters with UAPs, the Gimbal and Go Fast videos, and systemic obstacles inside government that prevent transparent investigation or disclosure, including legal, bureaucratic, and political constraints.

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Would a verified crash-retrieval event—or a president publicly touring such a craft—create more geopolitical stability via unity, or more instability and panic?

They broaden the discussion to potential foreign adversary tech, advanced propulsion, quantum computing, AI, and even underwater civilizations, arguing that genuine transparency and a serious national-level scientific effort are needed to understand what these objects are.

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Is it realistic to think a civilian, open-science initiative could outpace or pressure classified programs enough to force genuine UAP disclosure?

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Ryan Graves

Hello.

Joe Rogan

Good to see you again.

Ryan Graves

Nice to see you.

Joe Rogan

What is the latest in the world of Ryan?

Ryan Graves

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

(laughs) Other than the fact that you're about to have a child, which congratulations on that, but-

Ryan Graves

Thank you.

Joe Rogan

What, uh, we want- you wanted to talk to me about this drone situation, and I've become very concerned. I don't understand what's going on. I think there's a bunch of different narratives. Some of them are very scary. The scariest one that I've heard is that they're, the drones are looking for gamma radiation because there's a missing nuke.

Ryan Graves

Yeah. Let's address that first.

Joe Rogan

Please.

Ryan Graves

So, there has been a lot going on. I- I- I made a- a- an X post about this yesterday-

Joe Rogan

Mm-hmm.

Ryan Graves

... to try to assuage some fears, so.

Joe Rogan

I saw it, but I purposely didn't read it 'cause I wanted to-

Ryan Graves

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

I wanted to get it from you.

Ryan Graves

Yeah. So, you know, I've had the, the privilege of interacting with a lot of government organizations over the past few years as I've been digging down this rabbit hole. Um, law enforcement at a federal level, DOD, executive branch, legislative branch, and some of the folks that I've come in contact worth- with, they specifically work on weapons of mass destructions. Right? So that's- that's their job. So if there's a loose nuke in the United States, among other agencies, they would be some of the people that would be sitting in a skiff for 24 hours a day trying to figure out where it is and to go get it. Right? So, um, you can imagine that would be their number one priority. Right? So I engage with these folks. I ask them, you know, "What's the sense here?" You know, people are kind of starting to panic a little bit and this message is getting out there more and more broadly. Um, and they assured me that's not the case, that there is not a loose nuke or other type of weapon of mass destruction that these objects, whatever they are, are pursuing right now. Otherwise, they would be working in a skiff non-stop to make- to make that go away, that problem go away. So, you know, that's part of why I have a- a high confidence level that this is not a response to an- a massive imminent, you know, weapons of mass destruction threat on the eastern seaboard. Uh, so I- I just wanna try to dispel that rumor right now. I've seen a lot of talk of that online, uh, and I don't... You know, although this is a, you know, I think a dangerous and- and scary situation that's going on right now, at least from that particular angle, um, that's not the indications I'm receiving.

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