Joe Rogan Experience #2264 - Lenval Logan & Jason Sands

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Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music plays) Okay, gentlemen, what's happening? Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you, Steve.

Uh, both you guys were in, uh, The Program, uh, which is, uh, a U- Uh, that's why I wore my Roswell shirt.

(laughs)

Uh, UFO disclosure documentary, uh, all about what's going on behind the scenes. Why don't you tell everybody before we get started, uh, Jay, tell them w- what your background is, what you do.

I'm a retired master sergeant from the Air Force, worked 22 years. Uh, retired twenty- or 2007. Um, started off as an airframe guy, ended up in Intel, and that's when things got strange. Um, had my second duty assignment as a Intel guy and got introduced to The Program. And that's how I ended up, uh, in the movie, is I had some, uh, strange experiences that, uh, I could talk about that were unclassified. So, I came forward, and that's where James found me. And, uh, we got along pretty good, and everything's history from there.

And Logan, you were in the documentary as well. So tell everybody what you do.

So I am a-

Pull this up to your face.

Oh, I'm sorry.

It's okay.

So, I'm also a retired master sergeant from the Air Force. Uh, started off as a B-52 crew chief, uh, cross-trained into Intel, uh, retired after 21 and a half, and I ended up being part of the UAP Task Force. And I was one of the first people to come across Jay here and some other people. And, uh, from that, um, James found out about me (laughs) and said, "Okay, we need to talk." (laughs)

(laughs)

So, him and Leslie Kean approached me, and I was like, "Uh, yeah." But I kind of got outted by, by Jay Stratton. He, he, everybody was ganging up around me, and he, around him, and he was like, "Why are you asking me? Logan worked for me." And everybody went, "What?"

(laughs)

And I was-

Yeah.

And he's, "Okay, I guess I'm out."

(laughs)

(laughs)

Oh, boy. Um, what, so, what, let's start with you, Jay. What was your first introduction to this, uh, whole concept that we are in possession of alien crafts or that we have communicated or there's been some contact? Like, what, what was your thoughts about it before you had these experiences?

I had had a, a, a childhood experience with a UFO previous to that when I was ten years old. So I, I didn't really get an interest in UFOs at all. I just thought it was strange. Uh, it was also a, a shared experience with my mother. Um-

What was the experience?

Uh, well, it was just a red orb that came down. It looked like it came from the atmosphere, you know, distance, and then kept approaching, uh, my bedroom window, uh, and ended up kind of hovering near the bottom of my street. And I was screaming to my parents, you know, "There's a strange light outside," and nobody responded. So I ran out to get my binoculars, my dad's binoculars, and ran out to the front lawn. Finally, my mom was the only one that responded. And we both got to see it taking off as it hit, came across the, the rooftop of, uh, my friend Eddie's house at the bottom of the street. And, uh, that's what she got to see, my mother and I.