Joe Rogan Experience #1712 - Bert Kreischer Part 2
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In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Narrator, Joe Rogan Experience #1712 - Bert Kreischer Part 2 explores joe Rogan and Bert Kreischer Explore Comedy, Ego, Drugs, and Death Joe Rogan and Bert Kreischer spend a long-form conversation moving from stand-up comedy heroes and work ethic to cultural division, drugs, psychedelics, and personal mortality.
Joe Rogan and Bert Kreischer Explore Comedy, Ego, Drugs, and Death
Joe Rogan and Bert Kreischer spend a long-form conversation moving from stand-up comedy heroes and work ethic to cultural division, drugs, psychedelics, and personal mortality.
They analyze how great comics like Chris Rock, Martin Lawrence, Pryor, and Dane Cook pushed the craft, and how jealousy, luck, and discipline shape a comedian’s career.
The discussion widens into critiques of tribal politics, vaccine shaming, drug policy, and the illegality of psychedelics despite therapeutic potential.
They also delve into very personal territory—addiction, fitness extremes, family, dogs, what they want done with their bodies after death, and the tension between living hard and living long.
Key Takeaways
Use other people’s greatness as fuel, not jealousy.
Rogan and Kreischer stress that watching elite performers—Chappelle, Burr, Chris Rock, Martin Lawrence—should push you to work harder rather than make you bitter or petty; envy just blocks growth.
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Greatness is a mix of work ethic, pressure, and opportunity.
Stories of Chris Rock needing to follow Martin Lawrence, Kevin Hart capitalizing on big breaks, and Dane Cook mastering MySpace show that obsessive preparation plus a few key opportunities create outsized careers.
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Own your mistakes publicly or you lose audience trust.
They argue that in media or comedy, stumbling is inevitable; what destroys credibility is pretending you didn’t mess up instead of saying, “That sucked, I blew it,” and self-correcting in public.
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Beware tribal thinking—left vs. right blinds common sense.
Rogan critiques vaccine shaming and denial of medical care for the unvaccinated as a form of dehumanizing “othering,” comparing it to sports-team or religious tribalism that overrides nuanced thinking.
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Psychedelics can be transformative for some, dangerous for others.
They describe mushrooms and MDMA as tools that can profoundly enhance compassion and self-awareness for a subset of people, but emphasize legality, proper medical guidance, and mental health screening are critical.
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Extremes in fitness or substance use both carry hidden costs.
Their Sober October stories (hours of cardio, heart-rate games) and ecstasy comedowns highlight how addictive “pushing it” can be—whether with workouts or drugs—while questioning long-term health and sanity.
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How you treat animals and think about death reveals your values.
Their affection for their dogs, debates about burial vs. ...
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Notable Quotes
“It's not a bold thing to admit you stumbled. It's the only thing.”
— Joe Rogan
“Brand is a lazy term for authenticity.”
— Bert Kreischer
“We don’t need a gang war between goofy ideologies; we’re one giant group who needs to sort shit out.”
— Joe Rogan
“I’m the luckiest guy there is in this business—and I do work hard.”
— Bert Kreischer
“We’re not supposed to be in a box full of chemicals. We’re supposed to die and become a part of nature.”
— Joe Rogan
Questions Answered in This Episode
How can performers or creatives practically turn jealousy into motivation without burning out or becoming bitter?
Joe Rogan and Bert Kreischer spend a long-form conversation moving from stand-up comedy heroes and work ethic to cultural division, drugs, psychedelics, and personal mortality.
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Where should policymakers draw the line between individual freedom (e.g., drugs, vaccines) and societal protection, and who gets to decide?
They analyze how great comics like Chris Rock, Martin Lawrence, Pryor, and Dane Cook pushed the craft, and how jealousy, luck, and discipline shape a comedian’s career.
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If psychedelics were fully legalized and medically integrated, how should we screen for who they might harm versus who they might help?
The discussion widens into critiques of tribal politics, vaccine shaming, drug policy, and the illegality of psychedelics despite therapeutic potential.
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Does framing your life as a ‘brand’ inevitably hurt authenticity, or can the two genuinely coexist?
They also delve into very personal territory—addiction, fitness extremes, family, dogs, what they want done with their bodies after death, and the tension between living hard and living long.
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What’s the healthiest way to pursue extreme goals—fitness, career, or artistic—without crossing into self-destruction or permanent damage?
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I don't remember the bit either, but there's a few bits that you go as a comic ... I was just talking, uh, with, uh, Jo Koy about this. Where you get inspired by the comics, where you go, "Goddamn, man, I'm not working hard enough."
Right.
"I'm not doing enough."
That's why it's good to see people that are really good, right?
Oh.
'Cause you get that juice, just like that fuel that you get from Goggins-
(laughs)
... you get that fuel from watching Chappelle.
Oh, I get that.
Or watching Bill Burr.
Or watching you guys all touring, doing these big shows-
Yeah.
... and I go-
It's interesting.
Oh.
It's exciting. The ... But we have to ha- we have to resist the idea of being jealous, 'cause it's so common in our world.
Or c- or just subtly cunty, or taking shots at kings.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, like ... So, like-
Yeah.
... I, I, you know, I've, I, we talk- m- Tom and I talk about this on 2 Bears 1 Cave that's coming up. But, like, you know, Chris Rock got so big for a while that I think people stopped paying the respect he deserved.
100%
And I ... And when he got COVID, I realized how, just how important Chris Rock was to me. Like, I, like, out o- just n- you know, 'cause I think Norm had just passed, and I was a- the biggest Norm fan in the world. And then Chris Rock got sick, and I w- and I wa- I did, like, a deep dive on my own head of, like, just how fucking great that guy is.
Well, if you go back to, like, Bigger and Blacker, or you go back to-
Bring the Pain, Bring the Pain.
... Bring the Pain-
Bring the Pain.
... those are two of the best specials of all time.
(laughs)
Like, if you wanna look at your top 10 comedians of all time, in my opinion, you have to have Chris Rock in there.
Without a doubt. Without a doubt, there's no questions I woulda thought it.
You know who was the dark horse?
Hold on, give me a second. Man, I have a lot of dark horses, but I don't know-
Martin Lawrence. Martin Lawrence in the 1990s.
So?
People forgot. You Must Be Crazy.
Dude. (laughs)
Or You're So Crazy, rather. You're So Crazy, and then he had, like, a couple other specials that were on that same level. He, he had, like, two or three specials that were like lightning bolts. And y- it's hard, because you gotta compare them for the time. Like, comedy's, comedy's a weird thing, man. Like, even, like, comedy movies from the '80s or '90s that you thought were the shit, some of them just don't hold up for whatever reason. And standup comedy, a lot of it just seems different, because the culture's so different, 'cause the world's so ... It, like ... Everything's evolving and changing so fast. It's hard.
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