Joe Rogan Experience #1412 - Jimmy Dore

Joe Rogan Experience #1412 - Jimmy Dore

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJan 16, 20202h 50m

Joe Rogan (host), Jimmy Dore (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

UFO disclosures, Space Force, and military budgeting motivesU.S. war spending, Afghanistan Papers, and the military‑industrial complexDemocratic Party hypocrisy, Russiagate, impeachment, and TrumpMedia corruption and access journalism (NYT, CNN, MSNBC, Fox)2020 Democratic primary: Sanders, Warren, Biden, Tulsi Gabbard, Cenk UygurCensorship, YouTube demonetization, copyright, and independent mediaComedy culture: stand‑up craft, shock humor, sex and gender politics, identity politics

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore, Joe Rogan Experience #1412 - Jimmy Dore explores jimmy Dore, Rogan Torch War Lies, Media Corruption, Comedy Culture Wars Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore bounce between UFOs, U.S. foreign policy, endless war spending, media corruption, stand-up comedy, drugs, and identity politics. Dore argues both parties are captured by the military‑industrial complex, using UFO disclosures, Space Force, and massive Pentagon budget hikes as examples of manufactured threats to justify spending. They criticize mainstream media—from the New York Times to CNN and MSNBC—for running protection for establishment Democrats, smearing outsiders like Cenk Uygur, Tulsi Gabbard, and Bernie Sanders while soft‑pedaling war and corruption. Around this, they detour into stand‑up war stories, drugs, sex, gender politics, and the absurdity of modern “woke” culture, treating comedy as a safe space to say what can’t be said elsewhere.

Jimmy Dore, Rogan Torch War Lies, Media Corruption, Comedy Culture Wars

Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore bounce between UFOs, U.S. foreign policy, endless war spending, media corruption, stand-up comedy, drugs, and identity politics. Dore argues both parties are captured by the military‑industrial complex, using UFO disclosures, Space Force, and massive Pentagon budget hikes as examples of manufactured threats to justify spending. They criticize mainstream media—from the New York Times to CNN and MSNBC—for running protection for establishment Democrats, smearing outsiders like Cenk Uygur, Tulsi Gabbard, and Bernie Sanders while soft‑pedaling war and corruption. Around this, they detour into stand‑up war stories, drugs, sex, gender politics, and the absurdity of modern “woke” culture, treating comedy as a safe space to say what can’t be said elsewhere.

Key Takeaways

UFO confirmation may serve as budget justification, not just transparency.

Dore suggests the Air Force’s sudden willingness to confirm pilot UFO sightings conveniently coincides with new Space Force funding, arguing threats—real or exaggerated—are routinely used to sell bigger defense budgets.

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War spending dwarfs domestic needs and is structurally bipartisan.

He notes Congress gave Trump an extra $131 billion annually for the Pentagon while claiming he’s a dangerous Putin asset, pointing out that $20 billion a year could theoretically end homelessness, and halving the military budget would still leave the U. ...

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The military‑industrial complex shapes both parties’ behavior and media narratives.

Rogan and Dore tie revolving doors (Raytheon, Exxon), Afghanistan Papers, and perpetual war to a system where officials, contractors, and major media profit from conflict, making anti‑war candidates like Tulsi Gabbard structurally unwelcome.

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Mainstream media often act as establishment enforcers rather than watchdogs.

They cite examples like Judith Miller and Iraq WMDs, the NYT’s distorted Cenk Uygur smear, and CNN’s handling of the Warren vs. ...

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Identity and ‘woke’ politics are weaponized to shield power and shut down critique.

Dore and Rogan argue accusations of sexism or racism are selectively deployed—e. ...

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Independent media fill a trust vacuum left by legacy outlets.

As networks chase Trump drama and Russiagate, figures like Rogan, Dore, Kyle Kulinski, and others gain influence by challenging bipartisan war consensus, interrogating corruption, and hosting long‑form conversations that legacy TV won’t air.

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Comedy remains one of the last zones for honest, transgressive discussion.

Through stories of stand‑up, outrageous bits, and pushing taboo topics (sex, gender, power), they frame comedy as a place where people can still explore uncomfortable truths and hypocrisies without fully bowing to institutional constraints.

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Notable Quotes

“Come on, that’s not cynical, that’s two plus two.”

Jimmy Dore (on UFO disclosure being tied to Space Force budgets)

“We didn’t get Trump because the Democratic Party was doing their job.”

Jimmy Dore

“They’re for every war. They’re repeaters.”

Jimmy Dore (on mainstream media and war narratives)

“If you thought a guy was working for Putin, would you give him an extra $131 billion to go bomb anybody at his own…?”

Jimmy Dore

“You’re not gonna find any real men at an all‑man’s getaway. ‘Let’s get together and talk about our problems.’”

Joe Rogan

Questions Answered in This Episode

If Dore is right about the military‑industrial complex driving policy, what realistic mechanisms—if any—could dismantle or seriously weaken it?

Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore bounce between UFOs, U. ...

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How should citizens balance skepticism of mainstream media with the need to avoid falling into conspiratorial or low‑quality alternative sources?

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Is it possible for a major‑party presidential candidate to be meaningfully anti‑war without being crushed by party structures and media framing?

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To what extent does identity politics help marginalized groups, and to what extent is it co‑opted to protect corporate or establishment interests?

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How much responsibility should comedians have for the political influence of their platforms, versus just ‘being funny’ and speaking freely?

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Transcript Preview

Joe Rogan

Oh, here we go. (fists thudding) Good? Hello, Jimmy.

Jimmy Dore

Hi, Joe.

Joe Rogan

What's going on, buddy?

Jimmy Dore

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

Good to see you.

Jimmy Dore

Good to see you too.

Joe Rogan

What's happening?

Jimmy Dore

Well, we were just talking about the, uh, uh, the Air Force admitting that their pilots had seen UFOs. And you were telling me you interviewed one of those-

Joe Rogan

Yes.

Jimmy Dore

... pilots.

Joe Rogan

I interviewed Commander Fravor, and he was saying that this, this-

Jimmy Dore

Chocolate is be- my favorite.

Joe Rogan

(laughs) Ah. (laughs)

Jimmy Dore

Come on.

Joe Rogan

It's with an R, Fravor.

Jimmy Dore

Fra- oh, Fravor.

Joe Rogan

Fravor.

Jimmy Dore

Okay.

Joe Rogan

Um, he was ta- I mean, he was one of the guys that actually went to... What did- what is the word they do when they scramble and go to try to figure out what the fuck something is? But they, they monitored this thing, they saw it with their eyes, they saw it with their equipment, it was actively jamming the radar, whatever this thing was.

Jimmy Dore

Oh.

Joe Rogan

It was shaped like a Tic Tac, and it moved so fast you couldn't track it with the human eye. They said it went from th- I think they said some, some impossible number, like 60,000 feet down to 200 feet in less than a second. Like, whatever you could tra-

Jimmy Dore

Right. Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan

You know a radar does a blip, blip, blip, blip.

Jimmy Dore

Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan

They don't know how fast it actually went, they just know it, it went this insane distance in less than a second, less than a, a radar jump. And s-

Jimmy Dore

And s-

Joe Rogan

And it would, it would... They da- ha- had observed them in that area without his knowledge, like, uh, other Air Force pilots had observed them-

Jimmy Dore

Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan

... and then had, you know, brought it up the top of the food chain, but it wasn't something that got distributed to everybody until he saw it. When he saw it, he was like, "What in the fuck am I looking at here?" And they're like, "Well, yeah, we've been seeing these things." And this thing, w- with no active propulsion system that you could recognize. There was nothing around.

Jimmy Dore

Right.

Joe Rogan

No fire coming out of it, nothing around. And it would just foom, just disappear, 'cause it'd take off at insane rates of speed, and actively jamming their radar.

Jimmy Dore

So when I covered this on my show, I said, "Now, I've heard reports that pilots see this stuff all the time, but they'd never confirmed it." And my question was, "Why now?" Why would the Air Force be confirming that they saw UFOs now? 'Cause th- again, like, they've been, there have been reports that pilots have seen this stuff forever. And I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying, why are they admitting it happened now? And then, of course, you see in this last, uh, defense budget, they put in money for a Space Force.

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