Joe Rogan Experience #2073 - Derek, More Plates More Dates
Narrator, Joe Rogan (host), Derek (More Plates More Dates) (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan Experience #2073 - Derek, More Plates More Dates explores rogan and Derek dissect steroids, censorship, OnlyFans, and optimization Joe Rogan and Derek from More Plates More Dates move through a wide-ranging conversation on politics, performance enhancement, digital addiction, and modern masculinity and sex work. They criticize Canadian censorship and government overreach, compare natural and enhanced athletic performance, and discuss how PEDs, stem cells, and recovery tools are really used by elite fighters and athletes. They also deconstruct OnlyFans economics, influencer culture, plastic surgery, and dating apps, tying them to loneliness, male disenfranchisement, and the appeal of figures like Andrew Tate. The episode closes with Rogan outlining his own training, diet, and workflow, and Derek framing how education and transparency around drugs and lifestyle can help people make smarter, less destructive choices.
Rogan and Derek dissect steroids, censorship, OnlyFans, and optimization
Joe Rogan and Derek from More Plates More Dates move through a wide-ranging conversation on politics, performance enhancement, digital addiction, and modern masculinity and sex work. They criticize Canadian censorship and government overreach, compare natural and enhanced athletic performance, and discuss how PEDs, stem cells, and recovery tools are really used by elite fighters and athletes. They also deconstruct OnlyFans economics, influencer culture, plastic surgery, and dating apps, tying them to loneliness, male disenfranchisement, and the appeal of figures like Andrew Tate. The episode closes with Rogan outlining his own training, diet, and workflow, and Derek framing how education and transparency around drugs and lifestyle can help people make smarter, less destructive choices.
Key Takeaways
Recovery demands in elite sports often practically require PEDs.
Rogan describes Gordon Ryan’s jiu-jitsu camp training 6–8 hours a day, 365 days a year; Derek notes that at that workload, steroids and recovery agents are what make the volume survivable, not just performance-enhancing luxuries.
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Government overreach and censorship can quietly reshape entire media ecosystems.
They highlight Canadian policies that froze trucker donors’ bank accounts and restricted news access, plus proposed creator/content rules, as examples of how quickly a “Western democracy” can start resembling controlled-information states.
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Digital dopamine systems—games, social, dating apps—retrain reward expectations.
From Rogan’s Quake addiction to Derek’s Super Smash Bros habit and Tinder swiping patterns, they argue these products create hyper-stimulating loops that make ordinary life feel flat and sabotage focus, time, and relationships.
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OnlyFans and similar platforms radically invert some economic and relationship norms.
They unpack how young women can make six or seven figures selling sexual content while agencies may take up to 50%, raising difficult questions for partners about boundaries, long-term life plans, and the definition of exploitation.
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Male loneliness and skewed dating markets fuel figures like Andrew Tate.
With dating apps concentrating women’s attention on a small percentage of men and many young men single and sexually inactive, Rogan and Derek argue that unapologetically masculine, discipline-preaching figures fill a large unmet cultural void.
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Plastic surgery and extreme aesthetic modification can become self-defeating.
Using examples like Madonna, Simon Cowell, and Zac Efron, they suggest that chasing youthfulness via fillers and surgery often makes people look stranger and less relatable, overshadowing their actual accomplishments.
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Simple, consistent routines plus meat-heavy diets can dramatically change how you feel.
Rogan recounts how a mostly carnivore diet, daily cold plunges, and basic daily bodyweight work (100 pushups, 100 squats) have given him more mental clarity, stable energy, and better body composition than any supplement stack.
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Notable Quotes
“That place needs 100% an overhaul of government… they’re sliding down that dangerous road of communism that scares the shit out of me.”
— Joe Rogan (on Canada and Trudeau)
“What I like about Gordon is he’s fucking super open about it. He’s like, ‘Look, everybody does it. This is what I do. I’m the best.’”
— Joe Rogan (on Gordon Ryan and steroids)
“You don’t have to be trying to get people to like you. You have to be trying to tell the truth in the most honest way possible.”
— Joe Rogan (implicit philosophy of his podcasting/comedy approach, paraphrased across the segment about making people comfortable and avoiding TV-style production)
“Literally 10% of the dudes are getting 90% of the chicks.”
— Derek (on dating apps and skewed male–female dynamics)
“In a perfect world, professional athletes would utilize everything possible to get the best possible performance… My only concern would be young people ruining their endocrine system.”
— Joe Rogan (on PEDs and the Enhanced Games concept)
Questions Answered in This Episode
If governments increasingly regulate online speech and financial flows, what realistic safeguards could creators and citizens push for to prevent “soft authoritarianism” creeping into Western democracies?
Joe Rogan and Derek from More Plates More Dates move through a wide-ranging conversation on politics, performance enhancement, digital addiction, and modern masculinity and sex work. ...
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Given the recovery demands Rogan describes in MMA and jiu-jitsu, where should sports bodies draw the ethical line between legitimate medical recovery (e.g., stem cells, BPC-157) and banned performance enhancement?
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How might dating apps be redesigned to reduce the extreme winner-take-all dynamics that Derek describes and foster healthier, more equitable relationship formation?
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In relationships where one partner earns large sums on OnlyFans or similar platforms, what boundaries and conversations are necessary to avoid long-term resentment or misaligned life goals?
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If an ‘enhanced Olympics’ like the Enhanced Games takes off and routinely beats natural world records, will public attitudes shift toward accepting PEDs—or will it deepen the divide between “pure” sport and spectacle?
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(drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) How are you, man?
Long time no see. How come you didn't ... over here.
(laughs) Good to see you again.
Yeah, you as well.
(clears throat) Do you do cold plunge?
Um-
Or are you just talking about it?
(sighs) Yeah. It's, uh, something that I, I do occasionally, but I don't have one at my place, so it's not a regular part of my routine, but I would like it to be, and I guess I could do the cold shower thing, but it's, from my under-
Do you live in an apartment?
Yeah. From my understanding-
Yeah.
... it's not as, uh, I don't know, effective overall to like ... You wanna be fully immersed and kinda get the full experience.
Yeah. It's, uh, I don't think it's as effective, but it's pretty effective, especially you live in a fucking frozen communist shithole of Canada.
(laughs) Yeah, yeah.
(laughs) It's cold. You get real cold water.
When's the last time you've been up there? It's like-
Oh, I don't go up there anymore.
You refuse, right?
Yeah. I just fucking ... What they've done up there, what they did with the trucker rally and what, what Trudeau's doing with guns and what they're trying to clamp down on censorship on the internet, that guy can eat shit.
Hmm.
Like, that, that place needs 100% an overhaul of government. Like, they're, they're sliding down that dangerous road of communism that scares the shit out of me.
Yeah. I, uh ... (sighs) It's funny, 'cause even though I'm in Canada, it seems like the political ... The prevalence of political information and media is so much lesser than what goes on in the States 'cause it's just far more interesting. But even the alternatives that I'm aware of on the political, you know, side of things that are trying to, you know, get Trudeau out and replace him, not much better, from my understanding. Like, it seems like everyone's a ... Every time I go on Twitter, I see Jordan Peterson shitting on some other guy-
(laughs)
... who's, like, the next best option apparently.
Well, he likes that Pierre guy. What's that guy's name?
(clicks tongue) I don't know.
Pierre Poilievre? What is his name? There's the, the, the guy who's the reasonable Republican-type character or Conservative character. What is the-
Yeah, I think he said it.
(clicks tongue) Yeah. Pierre Poilievre. That guy is very smart.
Okay.
He's very interesting. There's a really funny video, I don't know if you ever saw it, but (clears throat) um, he's eating an apple, and he's talking to this reporter, and the reporter keeps asking him really stupid questions and, like, "What do you mean by that?" Like, "What does that mean?" And, like, he, like, he catches this reporter, like, "Says who? Who's saying this?" And it's ... Have you seen that video?
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