Joe Rogan Experience #1156 - Jimmy Dore
Joe Rogan (host), Jimmy Dore (guest), Narrator, Jamie Vernon (guest), Joe Rogan (host), Jimmy Dore (guest)
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore, Joe Rogan Experience #1156 - Jimmy Dore explores jimmy Dore Slams U.S. War Machine, Media Censorship, and Democrats’ Failures Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore spend the episode attacking U.S. foreign policy, corporate media, and the bipartisan political establishment. Dore argues that Putin is not uniquely evil compared to American leaders, highlighting U.S. war crimes, torture, and support for regimes like Saudi Arabia and Israel. They criticize media censorship, especially Big Tech’s deplatforming of Alex Jones, as a dangerous alliance between corporations, government, and intelligence agencies that threatens free speech. The conversation also covers third-party politics, Bernie Sanders, identity-driven partisan thinking, and Dore’s own rise as an independent political comedian.
Jimmy Dore Slams U.S. War Machine, Media Censorship, and Democrats’ Failures
Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore spend the episode attacking U.S. foreign policy, corporate media, and the bipartisan political establishment. Dore argues that Putin is not uniquely evil compared to American leaders, highlighting U.S. war crimes, torture, and support for regimes like Saudi Arabia and Israel. They criticize media censorship, especially Big Tech’s deplatforming of Alex Jones, as a dangerous alliance between corporations, government, and intelligence agencies that threatens free speech. The conversation also covers third-party politics, Bernie Sanders, identity-driven partisan thinking, and Dore’s own rise as an independent political comedian.
Key Takeaways
U.S. leaders are not morally superior to Putin in terms of violence and repression.
Dore cites Noam Chomsky’s claim that if Nuremberg standards applied, every postwar U. ...
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Media and political hysteria over ‘Russia’ distracts from more powerful foreign influences.
He argues that Israel and Saudi Arabia wield far more direct influence on U. ...
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Corporate media systematically sidelines anti-war and anti-establishment voices.
Examples like Phil Donahue, Ed Schultz, Cenk Uygur, Abby Martin, and Chris Hedges are used to show that TV networks fire or marginalize hosts who oppose wars or challenge Democratic Party and corporate narratives.
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Big Tech platforms function as monopolistic gatekeepers and should be regulated like public utilities.
Because YouTube, Facebook, and similar platforms dominate information flow, Dore and Rogan argue it’s dangerous that unelected tech executives, often pressured by government and groups like the Atlantic Council, can deplatform people without transparent due process.
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Deplatforming Alex Jones sets a precedent that will expand beyond fringe right-wing figures.
They emphasize that once the power to censor is normalized on a hated figure, it can be turned on leftists, Black Lives Matter, Palestinians, or anyone the establishment deems ‘extremist,’ and that the remedy for bad speech should be more speech and rebuttal, not bans.
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The U.S. party duopoly uses fear and shame to block third-party growth and real reform.
Dore criticizes Democrats for ‘voter shaming’ and ‘democracy shaming’ Greens and progressives instead of winning over the half of the country that doesn’t vote, and touts rank-choice voting and a new progressive party as ways to break corporate capture of both parties.
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Whistleblowers expose systemic abuses but are punished while perpetrators go free.
Stories of Bill Binney, John Kiriakou, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, and Julian Assange illustrate that those who reveal illegal surveillance and war crimes are prosecuted or exiled, while officials who ordered torture, illegal spying, or disastrous wars avoid accountability.
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Notable Quotes
““If Nuremberg laws were applied, then every postwar American president would have been hanged.””
— Jimmy Dore (quoting Noam Chomsky)
““The antidote to bad speech is not censorship. The antidote to bad speech is more speech.””
— Jimmy Dore
““We’re living in this farce. We have legit war criminals just one presidency away.””
— Jimmy Dore
““These de facto private media regulators have secret algorithmic processes that push down some news organizations in favor of others.””
— Jimmy Dore (quoting Matt Taibbi)
““Whether you agree with him or disagree with him, you can’t point to him and say he’s just a left-wing hack… You just say what you think.””
— Joe Rogan on Jimmy Dore
Questions Answered in This Episode
If U.S. presidents and allies commit comparable or worse abuses than Putin, what does that imply about American exceptionalism and how we teach recent history?
Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore spend the episode attacking U. ...
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How can societies balance the genuine harms of online disinformation and harassment with the equally serious danger of corporate–state censorship?
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What concrete steps would be needed to regulate platforms like Facebook and YouTube as public utilities without crushing innovation or entrenching current players?
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Why do so many voters and media figures cling to the idea that one major party is ‘the good side’ despite extensive evidence of systemic corruption in both?
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What would it practically take for a viable progressive third party to emerge in the U.S., and is Bernie Sanders’ continued alignment with Democrats helping or blocking that possibility?
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Transcript Preview
In four, three, two, one. Hey, Jimmy.
(laughs)
What's up? (laughs)
(laughs) Hi, Joe. How you doing, buddy?
I'm doing good. Now we're on the radio.
Fantastic. It's 3:31.
All right.
Uh, 29 minutes before four o'clock.
Here's Val with the weather.
(laughs) Hot, hot as fuck.
Back to you, Jimmy.
So, Val, so, uh, we got a car fire in the breakdown lane.
So you were getting emotional in the green room-
Oh.
... listening to Henry Rollins talk about Putin. You were about to quote Chomsky. Like, what-
Yes.
What was that?
So he was, uh, I just caught the end of it. I s- went in the green room and I, like, you know, everybody loves Henry Rollins, right? And, um-
'Cept Henry. (laughs)
(laughs) Oh, yeah.
That's why he's so good.
(Laughs) Maybe that, maybe.
He's, he's constantly grinding, you know?
Yeah, but he was doing that thing about, uh, oh, Putin, you know, there was a journalist who wrote a book about him, ended up dead.
Mm-hmm.
Putin's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. As opposed to who? (wheezes)
Well, no, but he, you, you mean he's definitely a bad guy, right? We all agree to that.
Yeah. Who, of course.
Yes, but, I mean, just because other people are also-
(laughs)
... bad guys doesn't negate his point of Putin being a bad guy. What he was saying is just that it's very bizarre that the Republicans, these people that were, you know, at the forefront of the Cold War, these ones who are always, you know, I mean, th- these are the people that remember Khrushchev banging on the desk, you know, saying, "We'll bury you," with, with Kennedy. And these people are now, like, uh, they're whitewashing Putin. They're essentially, like, uh, trying to paint out Putin to be a good guy because Trump is in this position where he's trying to be friends with this guy.
So, uh, well, here's the quote I wanted to send you.
Okay.
Right?
Please.
So that whole thing, if, if Nuremberg laws were applied, then every postwar American president would have been hanged, since, says Noam Chomsky. Uh, Putin kills journalists. We just torture ours.
(laughs)
(laughs) So, I mean, Chelsea Manning is a, well, a whistleblower we t-
Yeah.
Barack Obama tortured her. So-
Yeah. Yeah.
... uh, we have, our president, uh, our, our, our... We have presidents and vice presidents who are, are legit war criminals (laughs) that walk around today. They had a torture program.
Yeah.
Okay? So, uh, you know, Barack Obama got a peace prize and then he had a kill list. How... That's what... A peace prize winner with a kill list-
(laughs)
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