Joe Rogan Experience #1687 - Jimmy Dore

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 27, 20242h 55m

Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Jimmy Dore (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Extreme health practices and personal discipline (ice baths, breathing, etc.)Masks, COVID narratives, lab‑leak theory, vaccines, ivermectin, and censorshipCorporate media, late‑night TV, and Big Tech suppression of independent voicesU.S. foreign policy: Syria, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan, Venezuela, CubaDomestic politics: Democrats, the Squad, Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, third partiesPolicing, crime, homelessness, drug war, and systemic inequalityFree speech, deplatforming, PayPal/ADL, social media manipulation, and propaganda

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Narrator, Joe Rogan Experience #1687 - Jimmy Dore explores jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan Rip Media, War, Censorship, COVID Narratives Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore spend several hours attacking establishment power centers: corporate media, political parties, Big Tech, the military‑industrial complex, and pharmaceutical companies. They argue that U.S. elections are effectively “selections” controlled by donors, that both parties serve Wall Street and the war machine, and that independent media is punished algorithmically and through coordinated smear pieces.

Jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan Rip Media, War, Censorship, COVID Narratives

Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore spend several hours attacking establishment power centers: corporate media, political parties, Big Tech, the military‑industrial complex, and pharmaceutical companies. They argue that U.S. elections are effectively “selections” controlled by donors, that both parties serve Wall Street and the war machine, and that independent media is punished algorithmically and through coordinated smear pieces.

They frame censorship and narrative control—around COVID origins, treatments, vaccines, Syria, Assange, and domestic politics—as the core threat of the moment, claiming the liberal establishment now openly favors suppressing dissent rather than debating it. Dore details how his own show and others on YouTube have been demonetized, de‑recommended, and targeted in the press for challenging official stories.

The conversation ranges through U.S. foreign policy (Syria, Libya, Somalia, Venezuela, Cuba), domestic issues (Medicare for All, homelessness, minimum wage, drug war, policing), and COVID (lab‑leak theory, ivermectin, vaccine side effects, long‑COVID, masking). Both repeatedly stress that open discussion of uncomfortable facts is being stigmatized and punished.

They end on the importance of independent voices, the potential of a third party or populist coalition across left and right, and how long‑form, unscripted formats (podcasts, YouTube shows) are becoming the only places where controversial truths and competing narratives can be fully explored.

Key Takeaways

Corporate and legacy media are structurally incapable of real dissent.

Because they’re funded by large corporations, advertisers, and wealthy owners, TV news and late‑night shows tend toward groupthink, protect elite interests, and marginalize or smear independent voices who challenge wars, corporate power, or party leadership.

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Censorship and algorithmic suppression now target both left and right populists.

Dore argues YouTube downranks “borderline content,” demonetizes and unsubscribes independent channels, and that PayPal/ADL and government messaging aim to cut off financial tools and reach for those deemed extreme—often meaning anti‑war or anti‑establishment, not just actual extremists.

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COVID debate has been heavily politicized, distorting science and risk discussion.

They cite the rapid reversal on lab‑leak theory, suppression of early discussion on ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, and the social punishment of anyone describing vaccine side effects as evidence that political loyalties and media narratives are overriding open scientific inquiry.

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Both major U.S. parties largely serve the same donor class and war machine.

Dore insists Democrats and Republicans alike protect Wall Street, expand the Pentagon budget, maintain the drug war, and resist structural reforms like Medicare for All, using culture‑war symbolism (e. ...

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Leverage, not loyalty, is the only way voters can move politicians.

Drawing on Tea Party tactics and “Force the Vote,” Dore says blocs like the Squad could force floor votes or policy concessions by withholding support from leadership, and voters must be willing to withhold their votes—or build a viable third party polling near 10%—to exert real pressure.

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Systemic issues like homelessness and crime are linked to policy failures, not just personal flaws.

They tie rising crime and visible homelessness to COVID‑era economic collapse, lack of universal healthcare, inadequate mental‑health and addiction treatment, and a political class that spends freely on war and police while underinvesting in housing, wages, and social services.

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Long‑form, uncensored conversations are becoming essential democratic infrastructure.

Because short TV hits and corporate constraints kill nuance, they argue podcasts and independent YouTube shows are now where complex stories like Syria’s gas attacks, Assange’s case, or CIA/FBI provocations can be unpacked and publicly scrutinized.

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Notable Quotes

“We don’t have elections, we have selections.”
— Jimmy Dore

“You don’t suppress data in the interests of science. That’s not how science works.”
— Jimmy Dore

“The establishment’s biggest fear is the populist left and populist right coming together.”
— Jimmy Dore

“There’s this idea that there’s one arbiter of truth and it has to be the establishment media.”
— Joe Rogan

“Free speech is an absolute. If Alex Jones was doing something illegal, that’s what the courts are for. If he’s not, he deserves a printing press.”
— Jimmy Dore

Questions Answered in This Episode

How can independent media build enough economic resilience to survive demonetization, algorithmic suppression, and smear campaigns from legacy outlets?

Joe Rogan and Jimmy Dore spend several hours attacking establishment power centers: corporate media, political parties, Big Tech, the military‑industrial complex, and pharmaceutical companies. ...

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What concrete mechanisms or legal reforms would be needed to treat platforms like YouTube, Twitter, and PayPal as public utilities without handing more power to government censors?

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If both parties are structurally captured by donors, what realistic path exists for a third party or cross‑ideological populist coalition to gain leverage without instantly being co‑opted?

The conversation ranges through U. ...

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How should society balance the real dangers of misinformation with the equally real dangers of suppressing scientific debate and whistleblowers during crises like COVID?

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To what extent is the rise in crime, homelessness, and political extremism a predictable outcome of decades of bipartisan economic and foreign‑policy decisions—and how would you redesign those systems from the ground up?

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Joe Rogan

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Narrator

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays)

Narrator

(laughs)

Jimmy Dore

It's always some extreme shit you and these-

Joe Rogan

I know, I know. This is the most extreme, though.

Jimmy Dore

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

This is the closest I've ever come to dying, I think-

Jimmy Dore

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

... doing one of these things. I just don't know why d- I just- My friend, Jocko Willink, he sent me a video of his kid doing, uh, 20 minutes in, in the ice bath 'cause I, I, the first time I did it, I did it, I bailed at, like, a minute and a half. And I was like, "Oh my God, this is so cold." And then last night, I did it, and I got to four minutes and I was like, "I think I can go further."

Jimmy Dore

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

And so today, what I decided to do is set a timer. So when I set a timer, like, I had my phone timer on so I could look at the timer. And when I did that, I could stare, and I knew exactly how much time was past. And so I got to five minutes. Uh, that was my goal to get to five minutes. I was like, "Fuck it, let's go for 10." I got to 10, I was like, "Fuck it, 15." And I got to 15, and then I was like, "We're gonna go for 20."

Jimmy Dore

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

And I got to 20 minutes. It's 33 degrees, too. I'm fucking freezing in there.

Jimmy Dore

Jesus.

Joe Rogan

And then when I got to 20 and I got out, like, I could barely walk. And then I was shivering the entire, shivering-

Jimmy Dore

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

Like, hardcore shivering in my house, shivering all the way over here. It's 90 degrees in Texas. I'm driving, no AC on, windows rolled up, freezing, freezing. Normally, I'd be, like, sweating like a pig in there. I was freezing, shivering the entire, like, all the way, all the way over here. I got here-

Jimmy Dore

(laughs) I know.

Joe Rogan

... I'm wearing this sweatshirt because-

Jimmy Dore

It's a (laughs) -

Joe Rogan

... I had it laying around here. I put it on 'cause I was, I was freezing.

Jimmy Dore

Yeah, I just, uh, while you were doing that, I was, uh, hitting my snooze button.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)