Joe Rogan Experience #1132 - Kyle Kingsbury

Joe Rogan Experience #1132 - Kyle Kingsbury

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 18, 20183h 14m

Narrator, Kyle Kingsbury (guest), Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Trump, electoral politics, and the presidency as a popularity gameEnvironmental deregulation, oil pipelines, earthquakes, and nuclear power risksMushrooms, bioremediation, and speculative tech solutions for pollutionPsychedelics, MDMA for PTSD, ketamine therapy, and consciousnessBiohacking: stem cells, NAD IVs, mitochondria, fasting, keto, and gut healthMovement, footwear, cold exposure, and the impact of nature on wellbeingCults, fake martial arts, comedy culture, and the psychology of belief

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Kyle Kingsbury, Joe Rogan Experience #1132 - Kyle Kingsbury explores joe Rogan and Kyle Kingsbury Explore Politics, Drugs, Brains, And Bodies Joe Rogan and Kyle Kingsbury move from joking about Trump, celebrity politics, and media tribalism into a long, free‑wheeling discussion on health, environment, and technology.

Joe Rogan and Kyle Kingsbury Explore Politics, Drugs, Brains, And Bodies

Joe Rogan and Kyle Kingsbury move from joking about Trump, celebrity politics, and media tribalism into a long, free‑wheeling discussion on health, environment, and technology.

They dig into deregulation, energy pipelines, earthquakes from drilling, nuclear waste, and speculative fixes like mushroom bioremediation, before shifting to psychedelics, MDMA therapy, ketamine, and cutting‑edge longevity hacks like stem cells and NAD IVs.

The conversation also covers nutrition (keto, fasting, gut health), footwear and movement, cold exposure, sleep, and the psychological effects of modern living versus nature.

Interspersed are stories from comedy and MMA, bizarre training and sex practices, cultish martial arts, and how culture and consciousness are being reshaped by media, drugs, and technology.

Key Takeaways

The presidency increasingly functions like a high‑stakes popularity contest.

Rogan frames Trump’s success as skill in 'the game' of attention and conflict, suggesting future candidates (e. ...

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Environmental deregulation has long‑tail risks we don’t fully control or understand.

They question offshore drilling, pipelines under rivers, man‑induced earthquakes, and nuclear plants that can’t easily be shut down, highlighting how short‑term gains can create potentially catastrophic long‑term problems.

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Emerging therapies like MDMA and ketamine may radically change mental health treatment.

MDMA‑assisted therapy for PTSD is on FDA’s fast track, and anecdotal ketamine use shows rapid relief from treatment‑resistant depression, pointing toward a shift from lifelong SSRIs to short, intensive psychedelic‑assisted interventions.

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Targeting mitochondria and cellular energy is a new frontier in performance and aging.

NAD IVs, stem cell injections, and even creatine are discussed as ways to improve ATP production, cardiovascular capacity, recovery, and potentially reduce biological age, though much of the human data is still early or theoretical.

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Diet, gut health, and sunlight strongly influence mood and cognition.

They connect ultra‑processed food, disrupted gut microbiome (where most neurotransmitters are made), and lack of sun exposure to rising depression and emotional instability, arguing for more ancestral patterns: real food, nature, and face‑to‑face connection.

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Stress‑inoculation practices like cold exposure, breathwork, and intense exercise build resilience.

Rogan and Kingsbury describe how cold baths, cryotherapy, Wim Hof breathing, and hard training teach the nervous system to stay calm under stress, which can generalize to better emotional control in everyday life.

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Humans are highly susceptible to authority and group belief, for better and worse.

From religious schooling and cults to fake martial arts masters dropping students with 'touches,' they illustrate how people can be conditioned to accept irrational systems—while stand‑up comedy and critical thinking act as cultural counterweights.

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Notable Quotes

It’s a very high stakes, gigantic game where you’re trying to win a popularity contest. He won.

Joe Rogan

Taking them from their kids is subhuman… It’s beyond. It’s not us. It’s not what we’re doing in 2018.

Joe Rogan

Anything that influences mitochondria influences everything. That’s energy for your brain, cognitive function, heart, lungs—the whole nine.

Kyle Kingsbury

You don’t get a seat at the table to tell me what my ayahuasca experience is unless you’ve done it.

Kyle Kingsbury

We get fixated on our phones… We think communicating through Facebook is the same as being face‑to‑face. It’s not.

Kyle Kingsbury

Questions Answered in This Episode

If elections are increasingly popularity contests, how should citizens evaluate candidates beyond charisma and media presence?

Joe Rogan and Kyle Kingsbury move from joking about Trump, celebrity politics, and media tribalism into a long, free‑wheeling discussion on health, environment, and technology.

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Where should society draw the line between beneficial deregulation and irreversible environmental risk, especially with energy projects?

They dig into deregulation, energy pipelines, earthquakes from drilling, nuclear waste, and speculative fixes like mushroom bioremediation, before shifting to psychedelics, MDMA therapy, ketamine, and cutting‑edge longevity hacks like stem cells and NAD IVs.

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How might widespread access to MDMA‑assisted or ketamine‑assisted therapy change the way we think about trauma and mental illness?

The conversation also covers nutrition (keto, fasting, gut health), footwear and movement, cold exposure, sleep, and the psychological effects of modern living versus nature.

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What ethical and safety frameworks are needed before experimental biohacks like NAD IVs and systemic stem cells become mainstream?

Interspersed are stories from comedy and MMA, bizarre training and sex practices, cultish martial arts, and how culture and consciousness are being reshaped by media, drugs, and technology.

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Given the powerful role of group belief in cults, politics, and fake martial arts, how can individuals better protect themselves from manipulation?

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Transcript Preview

Narrator

When it comes to defending America, it is not enough to merely have an American presence in space.

Kyle Kingsbury

That's right.

Narrator

We must have American dominance in space. So important. Very importantly, I'm hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a Space Force as the sixth branch of the Armed Forces. That's a big statement. We are going to have the Air Force and we are going to have the Space Force, separate but equal. It is going to be something so important. General Dunford, if you would carry that assignment out, I would be very greatly hon-

Joe Rogan

(laughs) Look at Mike Pence. Mike Pence has this look on his face like, "I'm going to be the president."

Kyle Kingsbury

(laughs)

Narrator

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

He's like, "This motherfucker's gone completely crazy-

Kyle Kingsbury

(clears throat)

Joe Rogan

... and I'm gonna be the president next."

Kyle Kingsbury

That's his nod of approval.

Joe Rogan

Look at his face. He's got the face of a guy who knows he's going to be the president. Like, if you were about to be awarded something, like if there was some, uh, something you were about to get and you're like, "Wow, I worked my whole life for this and here it is. I'm gonna get that thing right now. I'm gonna be the fucking president." (laughs)

Kyle Kingsbury

(laughs)

Narrator

(laughs)

Kyle Kingsbury

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

He must be like, "This guy is never gonna last eight years, and for sure he's gonna win again. I'm gonna be the president."

Kyle Kingsbury

So, you think for sure he wins again because... Is that because whoever the Democrats decide to put in is gonna be an equal turd sandwich again?

Joe Rogan

You're a super smart dude, but you're also a brute. You're a big giant savage motherfucker, right?

Kyle Kingsbury

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

So how many people have underestimated you because you're a big giant savage motherfucker?

Kyle Kingsbury

Plenty.

Joe Rogan

And talked stupid to you and acted like you were a moron?

Kyle Kingsbury

I'd say equal street fights, two fights in the UFC.

Joe Rogan

Yeah. There's a lot of people, right? That... And, and just people in general, like, they'll get snotty. I don't take Stevia.

Kyle Kingsbury

Yeah, I'm glad.

Joe Rogan

I'm going like my men. (sips) Ah. But I think there's a certain part of us that might be doing that with him. I don't think he is... I think he's really good at winning. This is, this is, uh, this is not a, not, uh, like a, a, a, an endorsement of him. Um, horri-

Kyle Kingsbury

No caveats necessary.

Joe Rogan

Yeah. I'm horrified by this immigration policy of separating children from their parents. I think that's subhuman. I think-

Kyle Kingsbury

His wife came out and, and said that was bullshit, right?

Joe Rogan

Yeah. His wife's an immigrant, bro. His wife barely speaks English. It's chaos, right? It's crazy. I hate, I hate all that stuff. These are just families. They're just people who love each other. You gotta keep them together. If they break the law, you keep them together. Get them out of here if you want. I mean, if you want to send them back to wherever they came from if you're, you're hell-bent on that, but taking them from their kids is subhuman. I mean-

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