JRE MMA Show #31 with Daniel Straus & Joe Schilling

JRE MMA Show #31 with Daniel Straus & Joe Schilling

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 13, 20181h 44m

Joe Rogan (host), Joe Schilling (guest), Daniel Straus (guest), Joe Schilling (guest), Joe Rogan (host), Joe Rogan (host), Joe Schilling (guest), Daniel Straus (guest)

Daniel Straus’s spinal cord injury, prognosis, and rehabilitation journeyMedical system vs. conservative rehab: surgery, spinal health, and alternative treatmentsCannabis culture in combat sports: training high, CBD, and the High Rollers eventKratom, opiates, NSAIDs, and pain management for fightersPsychology of fighting: mental toughness, hypnosis, and adrenaline addictionKickboxing’s business struggles versus MMA’s financial upsideTrash talk, marketing, and post-fight career paths for MMA athletes

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Joe Schilling, JRE MMA Show #31 with Daniel Straus & Joe Schilling explores fighters, Injuries, Weed, And Comebacks: Inside JRE’s MMA Hangout This episode centers on Bellator champion Daniel Straus’s near-paralysis motorcycle crash and his improbable recovery, contrasted with kickboxer Joe Schilling’s transition from elite kickboxing to MMA and his cannabis-fueled training lifestyle. Straus recounts waking under a guardrail unable to move, refusing immediate spinal fusion, and rebuilding movement through intensive rehab and neuro-focused training. The trio dive into medical culture’s rush to surgery, alternative recovery tools like CBD, lion’s mane mushrooms, cryotherapy, and hypnosis, while also debating marijuana and kratom as performance-affecting substances. They branch into the business of combat sports, the psychology of fighting, trash talk, and how modern fighters build careers—and exit plans—beyond the cage.

Fighters, Injuries, Weed, And Comebacks: Inside JRE’s MMA Hangout

This episode centers on Bellator champion Daniel Straus’s near-paralysis motorcycle crash and his improbable recovery, contrasted with kickboxer Joe Schilling’s transition from elite kickboxing to MMA and his cannabis-fueled training lifestyle. Straus recounts waking under a guardrail unable to move, refusing immediate spinal fusion, and rebuilding movement through intensive rehab and neuro-focused training. The trio dive into medical culture’s rush to surgery, alternative recovery tools like CBD, lion’s mane mushrooms, cryotherapy, and hypnosis, while also debating marijuana and kratom as performance-affecting substances. They branch into the business of combat sports, the psychology of fighting, trash talk, and how modern fighters build careers—and exit plans—beyond the cage.

Key Takeaways

Refusing immediate surgery can be viable if paired with aggressive, expert rehab.

Straus declined a multi-level neck fusion despite doctors saying he’d never walk, opting instead for intensive neuro-focused therapy that gradually restored sensation, balance, and gait, illustrating that surgery isn’t always the only path with spinal trauma.

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High-level athletic conditioning dramatically improves odds of recovering from catastrophic injury.

Rogan and Straus emphasize that his pre-existing strength, youth, and years of neck conditioning from wrestling and MMA likely prevented worse damage and enabled a much faster functional comeback than a sedentary patient would have.

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Cannabis and CBD are deeply embedded in combat sports culture as recovery tools.

From Schilling’s description of the cannabis-only High Rollers jiu-jitsu event to heavy CBD use (tinctures, balms, bath bombs, patches), fighters increasingly rely on cannabinoids for pain, swelling, anxiety relief, and focus, despite ongoing political and regulatory resistance.

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Lion’s mane and other medicinal mushrooms are gaining traction as brain and nerve protectants.

After hearing Paul Stamets on JRE, Schilling pushed Straus to use lion’s mane and cordyceps for neural recovery and concussion mitigation, reflecting a broader shift among fighters toward nootropics and neuro-regenerative supplements.

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Mental coaching and hypnosis can meaningfully change a fighter’s performance and recovery mindset.

Schilling credits years with hypnotist Vinny Shoreman for sharpening his mental game, and Rogan suggests similar work could help Straus focus on healing, showing how cognitive tools are now seen as part of elite preparation.

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Kickboxing’s limited market ceiling is forcing elite strikers to migrate into MMA for better pay and relevance.

Schilling explains that despite kickboxing’s entertainment value, TV ratings and purses lag badly behind MMA, making a shift to Bellator MMA a financial and career-visibility necessity rather than a purely sporting choice.

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Modern fighters need a post-fight business plan, not just a win–loss record.

The group points to Brendan Schaub, Bisping, and others using podcasts, broadcasting, and personality-driven brands to create income beyond fighting, implying that trash talk, authenticity, and media savvy are now survival skills.

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Notable Quotes

“I’m a broken toy that is dying to be fixed.”

Daniel Straus

“There’s not too much that I can do to heal this other than eating right… it’s the body that’s healing.”

Daniel Straus

“Nothing’s impossible. I mean, I can prove that.”

Daniel Straus

“If you know there’s something that repairs the concussions we’re getting constantly, you’re kinda stupid if you’re not actively trying to figure out a solution.”

Joe Schilling

“Every time anything goes wrong in your life, it’s an opportunity to appreciate what it’s like when things go right.”

Joe Rogan

Questions Answered in This Episode

How does Daniel Straus’s refusal of spinal fusion compare to typical outcomes for similar injuries, and what risks did he realistically take?

This episode centers on Bellator champion Daniel Straus’s near-paralysis motorcycle crash and his improbable recovery, contrasted with kickboxer Joe Schilling’s transition from elite kickboxing to MMA and his cannabis-fueled training lifestyle. ...

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To what extent are cannabis and CBD actually performance-enhancing versus just recovery-enhancing in combat sports?

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Could protocols using lion’s mane, CBD, and other supplements ever become standardized for fighters with concussions or spinal trauma?

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What structural and marketing changes would kickboxing need to rival MMA’s popularity and pay scales?

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How far should promotions go in allowing trash talk and spectacle (e.g., CM Punk, celebrity fights) before it starts to undermine the sport’s legitimacy?

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Transcript Preview

Joe Rogan

Here we go in five, four, three, two, one. Boom! Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Schilling and Daniel Strauss (singing) in the fucking house.

Joe Schilling

What up?

Joe Rogan

Joe Schilling's just fucking up my kick machine out there, man. That thing ain't reading right, dude.

Joe Schilling

It... I mean, I hope not. It would really hurt my ego out there.

Joe Rogan

You were lighting that fucker on fire. That thing is not r- We gotta get that recalibrated. (laughs)

Joe Schilling

Joe's in here com- (laughs) Joe's in here complaining about a sciatic pain in his hip and still out-kicked me. I'm like, "What is going on out here?"

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Joe Schilling

I'm all sweaty.

Joe Rogan

Forget about sciatic pain, Daniel Strauss, you've gone through some fucking pain, dude.

Daniel Straus

That's right.

Joe Rogan

You are defying science and doctors and-

Daniel Straus

(laughs) Trying to.

Joe Rogan

They were telling you it was over.

Daniel Straus

Yeah, it was, uh-

Joe Rogan

Tell everybody the whole story. Put this-

Daniel Straus

I-

Joe Rogan

Bring this sucker up here.

Daniel Straus

All right. How the story goes, um, I was out one night, buddy of mine was having trouble, needed somebody to go out with him, so, uh, I was around the city that night. And, um, after taking him home, we were leaving the highway. As it split off, I was coming around. Was a-

Joe Rogan

You on a bike?

Daniel Straus

Yeah, I was on a bike, so, and I had a passenger. So what was c- called 826, is the highway, as it splits off to 95, I was going around 826. (clears throat) Now, here's the tricky part. Don't really remember what's going on from there.

Joe Rogan

Right.

Daniel Straus

So the, what me and the passenger, uh, remember, we were hit from either the side or from the back. Um, but coming around the bend, boom, coming around, got pushed into the wall. I wake up under the, uh, guardrail. Can't move. You know, uh, nobody else is there and the car is gone. There was not really a witness there until, like, later pulling up behind us. So yeah, it fucked me up for a while. I mean, fuck me up right now, but you know, uh, getting back to just what it is, the body's healing and...

Joe Rogan

So what was the extent of your injuries?

Daniel Straus

All right. So, uh, I had, um, (smacks lips) in my C4, 5, and 6, uh, I had contusions on my spinal cord. And half of my... on the left side of my spinal cord, there was, uh, pressure so bad that it, like, shut down my whole nervous system, like all my body. So, uh, in my... up in my neck and in my middle of my back was just compressed, a lot of the swelling, and that's what, uh, caused a lot of the, you know, not being able to walk, not being able to feel, the nervous problems, nervous system that I have, or the nervous, uh, issues that I had, so...

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