Joe Rogan Experience #1074 - Cameron Hanes
Joe Rogan (host), Cameron Hanes (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes, Joe Rogan Experience #1074 - Cameron Hanes explores bowhunting, Predators, Politics, And Pushing Limits With Cameron Hanes Joe Rogan and bowhunter/endurance athlete Cameron Hanes dive into extreme training, overuse injuries, and how Hanes maintains high-volume lifting and running into his 50s. They spend substantial time on hunting ethics, predator management (wolves, bears, lions), and why regulated hunting and tag revenue are central to North American and African wildlife conservation. The conversation branches into the cultural war around trophy hunting, veganism, and media narratives, contrasting lived experience in wild places with online outrage. They also touch on mental health, the influence of Rogan’s podcast on niche topics like bowhunting and float tanks, US politics (Trump, Zinke, Don Jr.), the military, and the uniqueness—and messiness—of American opportunity.
Bowhunting, Predators, Politics, And Pushing Limits With Cameron Hanes
Joe Rogan and bowhunter/endurance athlete Cameron Hanes dive into extreme training, overuse injuries, and how Hanes maintains high-volume lifting and running into his 50s. They spend substantial time on hunting ethics, predator management (wolves, bears, lions), and why regulated hunting and tag revenue are central to North American and African wildlife conservation. The conversation branches into the cultural war around trophy hunting, veganism, and media narratives, contrasting lived experience in wild places with online outrage. They also touch on mental health, the influence of Rogan’s podcast on niche topics like bowhunting and float tanks, US politics (Trump, Zinke, Don Jr.), the military, and the uniqueness—and messiness—of American opportunity.
Key Takeaways
High training volume is possible, but must be earned gradually.
Hanes runs twice a day and does massive rep schemes in the gym, but stresses it took years to build that capacity; jumping in at his level leads to injury and burnout, not progress.
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Chronic NSAID use can worsen inflammation and gut health.
After hearing Rhonda Patrick, Hanes quit daily Advil and found his pain actually decreased; they discuss research that long-term NSAID use can damage the gut biome and paradoxically increase inflammation.
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Regulated hunting is a primary driver of modern wildlife conservation.
They outline how license fees, gear excise taxes, and controlled tags funded the rebound of elk, deer, and other species in North America—and how similar market incentives protect elephants, rhinos, and other African game from habitat loss and poaching.
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Public perception of predators is often disconnected from ecological reality.
Rogan and Hanes contrast cartoon bears/wolves with real behavior—infanticide, livestock predation, and heavy impact on ungulate populations—and argue that unmanaged predator numbers can devastate local wildlife and rural livelihoods.
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Ethics and optics in hunting content matter.
They criticize high-fence and “canned” lion hunts, celebratory kill reactions, and careless social posts as harmful to hunting’s image, calling for hunters to be stewards who show respect for animals and clearly communicate why and how they hunt.
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Experience on the ground often contradicts online outrage.
Stories from British Columbia, Africa, and the American West show locals sometimes welcome predator control or trophy hunting due to direct impacts, while distant urban critics, informed by selective media, push emotionally appealing but ecologically flawed positions.
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Pushing physical limits builds mental resilience transferable to life.
Ultrarunning, heavy training, and difficult hunts force repeated “mini battles” with discomfort; winning those teaches people they can endure low points, a lesson both men connect to dealing with depression, breakups, and other personal struggles.
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Notable Quotes
“Moderation is for cowards.”
— Cameron Hanes
“If you don’t go there, you don’t get it.”
— Joe Rogan (on understanding wild places and hunting)
“Without hunting, those animals don’t have value… and no matter how you want to slice it, if they don’t have value, it’s to the detriment of the species.”
— Cameron Hanes
“People will get mad when a person kills an animal, but not when a bear kills a moose. Animals are going to die either way.”
— Joe Rogan
“I think it would be a good thing for every single human being to grow some vegetables, and if you eat meat, once in your life, kill an animal.”
— Joe Rogan
Questions Answered in This Episode
How should wildlife agencies and local communities decide where predator reintroduction (like wolves) is appropriate versus where it’s ecologically or socially harmful?
Joe Rogan and bowhunter/endurance athlete Cameron Hanes dive into extreme training, overuse injuries, and how Hanes maintains high-volume lifting and running into his 50s. ...
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What specific storytelling or filming approaches could better show non-hunters the full difficulty, ethics, and emotional weight of a bowhunt?
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Where should the ethical line be drawn in global trophy hunting—what practices (e.g., high-fence, non-edible species) should be off-limits even if they generate conservation revenue?
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How can vegans and hunters find common ground on animal welfare and environmental stewardship instead of defaulting to shaming and tribalism?
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What responsibilities do high-profile influencers like Rogan and Hanes have when they shape public opinion on complex issues like conservation, war, and drug use?
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Transcript Preview
Usually I have it, but it goes away after a month or so. I've had it for like four months pretty solid. Ooh, and we're live. Cam Hanes, how you doing buddy?
I'm good, how are you?
I'm good.
(laughs)
Welcome to California.
I know. And th- this place is amazing.
It's pretty badass, right?
Yeah, we did the... We did the grand tour and I'm ready to lift.
Yeah. We're gonna... We're gonna shoot first.
(laughs)
I don't... Don't wanna have poor accuracy.
No, right.
That's like... Your... Your whole motto of run, lift, shoot-
Yeah.
Shouldn't it be shoot, lift, run? Or shoot, run, lift?
I don't know.
Do you... You... You run in the mornings and then you run at night too, right?
Yeah, mm-hmm.
You have a problem.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a problem.
Yeah.
That's too much.
Well, I... I just fall back on the moderation is for cowards.
(laughs)
So that like pretty much covers any psycho overdoing, in excess. I'm like just... It can be like, no, I'm just not a coward.
And what about overtraining? Is that bullshit?
Yeah.
Yeah. It's totally bullshit. But you were saying before-
That's why-
... that when you were 20, you're 50 now, but when you were 20, you could never do what you can do now when you're 50.
No.
So if you tried to do what you do now at 50 when you were 20, wouldn't it be overtraining?
(laughs) I'm confused.
(laughs)
(laughs)
Well, I mean if you weren't in shape-
Yeah.
... enough... And obviously you're in great shape 'cause you do this all the time-
Yeah, mm-hmm.
But if you weren't in great shape and you tried to keep this up, like what you're doing right now.
Yeah. No, I... I feel... I don't know. I feel good.
Who's here? Jamie, somebody just walked in. It's a delivery. Oh, okay. Um, so when you were 20, did you do anything?
Um, I mean I've always been active.
Right.
You know, I always played sports and ran a... a 10K in the summers and things like that. So...
Just worked out a little or something like that?
Yeah. Yeah, I just wanted to lift a little bit, but not, you know, to the level I'm at now.
Yeah, but when... When I look at your Instagram, I get tired.
Yeah. (laughs)
I do. Like, 'cause you're doing all that shit, especially that shit you're doing with, uh, Outlaw Strength.
Yeah, Eric?
Eric.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Outlaw Strength on Instagram. You guys are doing ridiculous amounts of reps.
Yeah, we do. It's... It's all about the reps and it's like, uh, I don't know. And like I say, your body gets used to what you ask of it.
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