Joe Rogan Experience #1489 - Ronnie Coleman

Joe Rogan Experience #1489 - Ronnie Coleman

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 10, 20201h 32m

Joe Rogan (host), Ronnie Coleman (guest)

Ronnie Coleman’s late start in bodybuilding and early strength backgroundBalancing Mr. Olympia-level bodybuilding with a full-time police careerTraining philosophy: ultra-heavy lifting, high volume, and nutrition strategyExtreme size, low body fat, and the role of genetics and steroidsLong-term injuries, 13+ surgeries, spinal fusion, and chronic pain managementStem cells, regenerative medicine, and hopes for improved mobilityPerspectives on policing, police brutality, reforms, and officer selection/training

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Ronnie Coleman, Joe Rogan Experience #1489 - Ronnie Coleman explores ronnie Coleman on Building a Legend, Breaking Down, and Never Quitting Joe Rogan interviews eight-time Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman about his unlikely path from small‑town Louisiana to bodybuilding legend while working full-time as a police officer.

Ronnie Coleman on Building a Legend, Breaking Down, and Never Quitting

Joe Rogan interviews eight-time Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman about his unlikely path from small‑town Louisiana to bodybuilding legend while working full-time as a police officer.

Coleman explains how genetics, heavy powerlifting, relentless consistency, and structured nutrition—more than massive drug use—drove his extreme size and conditioning.

He details the severe physical costs of his career, including multiple back and hip surgeries, extensive spinal fusions, chronic pain, and limited mobility, yet emphasizes his continued love for training and refusal to quit.

They also discuss policing culture, abuse of power, needed reforms, and how better hiring, pay, and training could improve law enforcement across the U.S.

Key Takeaways

Genetics and a long strength base matter more than early specialization.

Coleman didn’t start bodybuilding until 24 and only used steroids at 30, but decades of powerlifting strength, natural size, and favorable genetics gave him a foundation most competitors never reach.

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Progressive overload plus consistency can create extreme physiques over time.

He added roughly 5–10 pounds of muscle per year through years of ultra-heavy squats, deadlifts, and presses, paired with strict nutrition and six lean meals a day, showing how sustained incremental gains compound.

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High performance often demands lifestyle sacrifice and structured routines.

Coleman built his physique while working full-time as a cop, scheduling daily cardio, intense 60–75 minute lifting sessions, and even waking up at night to eat, illustrating how tightly elite performers organize their lives.

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Extreme physical achievement can come with severe long-term costs.

Coleman’s pursuit of maximum size and strength led to multiple herniated discs, full spinal fusion with rods, screws, and cages, bilateral hip replacements, chronic pain, and reliance on crutches/wheelchair for longer distances.

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Mindset and pain tolerance can override massive physical adversity.

Despite constant pain and limited mobility, he keeps training daily, frames his situation positively, and even jokes about his hardware, illustrating how perspective and identity around “doing what you love” can sustain motivation.

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Responsible drug use and medical oversight can mitigate some risks—but not all.

Coleman emphasizes moderate, prescription-based steroid use under regular bloodwork, arguing his organs remain healthy; however, his musculoskeletal damage shows that even “smart” approaches don’t fully protect against mechanical wear and tear.

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Improving policing requires better hiring, education, and ongoing training—not defunding.

Drawing on his own department’s standards (four-year degrees, strong oversight, low tolerance for complaints), Coleman argues that weeding out unfit officers, increasing pay, and mandating constant training are key to reducing abuse.

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Notable Quotes

I never had any dreams of being a bodybuilder. I only did it because the guy gave me a free membership to the gym.

Ronnie Coleman

People ask me if I have any regrets. Yeah, I have some regrets. I didn’t go heavy enough.

Ronnie Coleman

When you’re doing something that you truly love and enjoy doing, that’s what you look forward to all the time… Take that away, then I probably won’t be okay.

Ronnie Coleman

You can’t suck at being a cop.

Joe Rogan

I’m gonna walk again unassisted. I guarantee that. If I can’t do it, it can’t be done.

Ronnie Coleman

Questions Answered in This Episode

Given the long-term damage he’s experienced, does Ronnie still believe the extreme weights were worth it, and would he advise younger athletes to follow a different path?

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How much of Coleman's success does he think could be replicated today with modern sports science, compared to the unique combination of genetics and era he lived in?

Coleman explains how genetics, heavy powerlifting, relentless consistency, and structured nutrition—more than massive drug use—drove his extreme size and conditioning.

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What specific selection and training criteria would he implement nationwide to reduce abusive policing while still attracting high-quality recruits?

He details the severe physical costs of his career, including multiple back and hip surgeries, extensive spinal fusions, chronic pain, and limited mobility, yet emphasizes his continued love for training and refusal to quit.

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Could advanced regenerative medicine (stem cells, hardware removal, novel surgeries) realistically restore significant mobility in a spine as fused and instrumented as his?

They also discuss policing culture, abuse of power, needed reforms, and how better hiring, pay, and training could improve law enforcement across the U.S.

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How does Ronnie mentally reconcile the identity of being an indestructible champion with the daily reality of pain, surgeries, and mobility limitations?

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Transcript Preview

Joe Rogan

... one. Mr. Coleman.

Ronnie Coleman

What's going on? (laughs)

Joe Rogan

Great to meet you, brother. It's a real honor. I mean, you are, uh, li- when I was, like, really into bodybuilding and reading the magazines, and I always said that you look like a dude who they invented in a Marvel comic book to kill the Hulk.

Ronnie Coleman

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

Like, that's what you looked like when you were in your prime, man. I mean-

Ronnie Coleman

Yeah, I felt like I probably could too, like, in those days. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

I mean, goddamn, you were freakishly huge. It was crazy to see. It was like, you know, I remember w- f- s- paying attention to bodybuilding from the beginning, like the Franco Columbu and Schwarzenegger days-

Ronnie Coleman

Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan

... to what you guys had become, you know, when you were in your prime. You just redefined everything. Everything was just so extreme.

Ronnie Coleman

Yeah, we was, we were pretty, pretty, uh, tough back in the old day. E- everything was hard, you know. The guys that I was competing against were real good. And, you know, I just came out of nowhere, you know, because I, I got into bodybuilding real late. You know, where I'm from, we didn't have it, and I didn't find out about it until I graduated college, went out to, uh, Texas and started working for the police department.

Joe Rogan

How old were you at the time?

Ronnie Coleman

I was about 24.

Joe Rogan

So that's when you started bodybuilding?

Ronnie Coleman

That's when I started. But I had been working out, you know, since I was 12, 13. --

Joe Rogan

For sports?

Ronnie Coleman

Yeah, well, no. I had- I was on the powerlifting team.

Joe Rogan

Oh, okay.

Ronnie Coleman

I did powerlifting, uh, in high school. So I was on the powerlifting team. And, you know, I got ... Where I'm from, Louisiana, it's a real small town. Most of the, a lot of the guys are kind of big like me, kind of strong like me. You know, a lot of people don't understand, but strength is something like a natural, na- uh, a natural gift, you know?

Joe Rogan

Mm-hmm.

Ronnie Coleman

You, you can work on it and get better at it, but you also have to be gifted a little bit.

Joe Rogan

Have to have a nice base.

Ronnie Coleman

Yeah, you have to have a nice base, and you have to have a little talent. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Ronnie Coleman

You know, like that, this guy, uh, I think, I can't even remember his name, but, uh, he deadlifted 1100 pounds.

Joe Rogan

Oh, that, uh, the, the Game of Thrones guy?

Ronnie Coleman

Yeah, yeah. Uh-

Joe Rogan

The Mountain?

Ronnie Coleman

That, that's a gift, you know? That's talent.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Ronnie Coleman

Yeah, yeah, he's gifted. Everybody can't do that, you know. I, I did 800, you know, for a couple of reps, but, uh, (laughs) I don't think I can do 1100.

Joe Rogan

That's a lot of weight.

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