Joe Rogan Experience #1997 - Cameron Hanes
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In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Narrator, Joe Rogan Experience #1997 - Cameron Hanes explores joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes Explore Hunting, Grit, Politics, Misinformation Tsunami Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes spend a long, free‑wheeling conversation bouncing between bowhunting stories, predator behavior, performance lifestyles, nutrition, combat sports, and media/politics. They launch and taste their new Kill Cliff ‘Elk Blood’ CBD drink, talk ultra‑running, footwear, and the mental side of pushing physical limits.
Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes Explore Hunting, Grit, Politics, Misinformation Tsunami
Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes spend a long, free‑wheeling conversation bouncing between bowhunting stories, predator behavior, performance lifestyles, nutrition, combat sports, and media/politics. They launch and taste their new Kill Cliff ‘Elk Blood’ CBD drink, talk ultra‑running, footwear, and the mental side of pushing physical limits.
A substantial section focuses on hunting ethics and predator management (bears, wolves, lions), how media and Disneyfied narratives distort public perception of wildlife, and how that intersects with hunting’s public image. They also dive into UFC matchups, weight cutting, fighter durability, and specific bouts and fighters.
Later, the discussion shifts into cultural and political territory: COVID policy, vaccine mandates and passports, media manipulation, Big Pharma incentives, censorship, Tucker Carlson, RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard, and whether platforms like Rogan’s have a responsibility in politics.
Throughout, Rogan repeatedly encourages Hanes’ evolution from full‑time city employee to full‑time creator, stressing the value of inspiration over jealousy and the importance of using success to elevate others and support freedoms like hunting.
Key Takeaways
Modern wildlife narratives are largely divorced from brutal ecological reality.
Rogan and Hanes walk through data on bears and wolves killing huge numbers of calves, cannibalism among predators, and surplus killing, arguing that Disney and zoo imagery make the public oppose hunting without understanding real predator impacts or ecosystem management.
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Hunting content online can both inspire participation and trigger backlash.
They acknowledge criticism that social media ‘commercializes’ and overcrowds hunting spots, but counter that broader participation creates political support to keep hunting legal and that showcasing hard, ethical hunting can motivate people to work harder rather than just chase trophies.
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Ultra-endurance and effective gear are built on iteration, not heroics.
Hanes talks about running ~100 miles a week, shoe design with Speedland (cushioning, BoA dials, lug patterns), and how the right footwear and methodical preparation reduce injury despite high mileage; Rogan similarly rethinks his own warmups after tweaking his back.
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Weight cutting and division gaps in MMA remain structurally problematic.
Using fighters like Khamzat Chimaev, Colby Covington, and Alex Pereira as examples, they argue the 170–185 lb gap is too large, incentivizing extreme cuts and mismatches in frame size, and suggest more weight classes or fighting closer to walk‑around weight to protect athletes.
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COVID policy exposed how easily fear and centralized narratives can override debate.
They criticize one‑sided messaging (“no one is safe”), suppression of dissenting scientists, lack of deep investigation into vaccine side effects, and the push for global digital health certificates, warning that emergency powers and ‘compliance’ tech can outlast crises.
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Media framing and selective editing shape what audiences believe is ‘true.’
The episode dissects examples like edited clips of Pfizer’s CEO, misleading headlines about Al Pacino, and partisan COVID coverage, arguing that fact‑checks can themselves be spin and that viewers must watch primary sources, not just trust headlines or compilations.
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Jealousy is a natural impulse, but a toxic long‑term strategy.
Rogan makes the case that resenting successful people (in hunting, comedy, or media) wastes energy and stalls personal growth; consciously choosing to be inspired by others’ effort and excellence creates positive fuel, while bitterness just cements mediocrity.
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Notable Quotes
“We have this Disney version of animals in our head. Out in the wild, bears and wolves are just killing machines.”
— Joe Rogan
“I used to run the wilderness and hate seeing a boot track. But those new hunters are the ones who’ll vote to keep hunting legal.”
— Cameron Hanes
“If you’re mad at someone like you, and all you see is negative, you’re not being honest. That’s unmet needs talking.”
— Joe Rogan
“If I believed in myself as much as you believe in me, I would’ve quit my job a long time ago.”
— Cameron Hanes
“You can’t give people the power to force you to take medicine and then punish you if you don’t. Once they have that, they don’t give it back.”
— Joe Rogan
Questions Answered in This Episode
How should wildlife managers balance predator conservation with the documented impact of bears and wolves on calf survival?
Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes spend a long, free‑wheeling conversation bouncing between bowhunting stories, predator behavior, performance lifestyles, nutrition, combat sports, and media/politics. ...
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Where is the ethical line between showcasing hunting to inspire others and turning it into performative content for clicks and sponsors?
A substantial section focuses on hunting ethics and predator management (bears, wolves, lions), how media and Disneyfied narratives distort public perception of wildlife, and how that intersects with hunting’s public image. ...
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What structural changes (e.g., more weight classes, hydration checks) would most effectively reduce dangerous weight cutting in MMA?
Later, the discussion shifts into cultural and political territory: COVID policy, vaccine mandates and passports, media manipulation, Big Pharma incentives, censorship, Tucker Carlson, RFK Jr. ...
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How can citizens realistically push back against global digital health certificate schemes without becoming vulnerable to actual health threats?
Throughout, Rogan repeatedly encourages Hanes’ evolution from full‑time city employee to full‑time creator, stressing the value of inspiration over jealousy and the importance of using success to elevate others and support freedoms like hunting.
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What practical steps can an individual take to convert jealousy of others’ success into actionable inspiration, as Rogan describes?
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Transcript Preview
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Hello, Cameron Hanes. Oh, God. I'm- I'm nervous. Dude, this is the launch day. Gah, shut the fuck up. I'm nervous. Drink day. How can you be nervous? You run thousands of miles-
(laughs)
... and you're a psycho. Um, this is the collaboration that we did, uh, with Kill Cliff. It's out today. It's, uh, a spicy cherry. What's it called? It's called Elk Blood. Elk Blood. (laughs) (can pops) The other one's- How sick is that? Cheers, sir. Thank you. You too. How sick- Mm. ... is that Elk Blood? Oh, it's good too. We went over like, man, how many iterations did we go over? About 20. There's... Yeah, there was a shitload. We kept tweaking it and, you know, it's just like- it's kinda the same thing that we did with the Flaming Joe. You gotta get it right. Takes a long time, but those guys, whatever they're doing, that f- whatever fucking alchemy they're doing- Yeah. ... to make this stuff so delicious. Yeah, this is good. This is really good. And I just- Yeah. ... love that it's... Well, first it says, "Cam Hanes and Joe Rogan Elk Blood." (laughs) And it's- How sick is that? ... CBD, so it's got- Yeah. ... 25 milligrams of CBD, and we're gonna do an Ignite version as well that has- No sugar? ... yeah, no sugar. It's got caffeine. How much caffeine does it have?
125.
125. Yeah. That ain't shit, bro. We've been drinking those- It's like a cup of coffee. ... Black Rifle coffees. (laughs) Those Black Rifle coffees will ruin you. They're so good. Have you had them? They're good. You want one of them? They're... I love them. We'll bust them out too. Lot of sugar. Ooh, there's so much sugar. Yeah, that's like- That's cheating. I- I... I know. I was drinking that and I was like, "Holy shit, this thing is so good." (laughs) And then I was like, "What- what is going on here?" Then I look and I'm like, "Oh, that's why." Is... How many milligrams does it have of sugar?
I don't know.
Go- go gl-... Well, you just go grab a few for us. Infinity. I loved them. I loved them. I'm gonna drink one right now. I'm gonna be- They- they-
(laughs)
... a good boy. They are so good. I mean, if you're not hung up on sugar like I am... I'm hung up on it too. Yeah. I... You should be. You really should be. But it's- it's a j-... it's a wonderful treat occasionally. It is. Yeah, if you reward yourself. Yeah. Yeah. So if you... Say, if you run a 100 miler- Right. (laughs) ... I'm like, "I can have it. I can have a good Black Rifle coffee, uh, ready to drink with some sugar." Well, you know Floyd Mayweather drinks Coca-Cola or Pepsi, I forget which one, but he drinks it like... Uh, he just drinks soda essentially right after he works out sometimes. And, uh, I talked to a nutritionist and he said, "Actually, like post-rigorous exercise like that-" Mm-hmm. "... it's actually a pretty effective way of dumping glucose back into your body." Sounds gross. Yeah. You dr-... Y- y- you know, you work out, you're the best boxer of all time, (laughs) you know, and you're fucking... Thank you. These are the... not the 300s though.
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