Joe Rogan Experience #1167 - Larry Sharpe
Joe Rogan (host), Larry Sharpe (guest), Narrator
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Joe Rogan and Larry Sharpe, Joe Rogan Experience #1167 - Larry Sharpe explores larry Sharpe lays out radical libertarian overhaul for New York Joe Rogan interviews Larry Sharpe, the Libertarian candidate for New York governor, about his plans to radically restructure education, taxation, healthcare, and economic development in the state. Sharpe argues that New York is collapsing under corruption, over‑centralization, and over‑taxation, and that both major parties are trapped in fear‑based politics that preserve the status quo. He proposes bold libertarian solutions: dismantling federal and state control over schools, leveraging infrastructure naming rights to replace tolls and raise revenue, legalizing cannabis and hemp like any other crop, and increasing transparency and market competition in healthcare. Throughout, Rogan challenges the practicality and vagueness of some proposals, pressing Sharpe on implementation details and potential short‑term disruption.
Larry Sharpe lays out radical libertarian overhaul for New York
Joe Rogan interviews Larry Sharpe, the Libertarian candidate for New York governor, about his plans to radically restructure education, taxation, healthcare, and economic development in the state. Sharpe argues that New York is collapsing under corruption, over‑centralization, and over‑taxation, and that both major parties are trapped in fear‑based politics that preserve the status quo. He proposes bold libertarian solutions: dismantling federal and state control over schools, leveraging infrastructure naming rights to replace tolls and raise revenue, legalizing cannabis and hemp like any other crop, and increasing transparency and market competition in healthcare. Throughout, Rogan challenges the practicality and vagueness of some proposals, pressing Sharpe on implementation details and potential short‑term disruption.
Key Takeaways
Sharpe sees voter apathy as his path to victory.
He argues that if disillusioned nonvoters hear a hopeful, logical alternative to the two parties, they may turn out and swing a five‑way race where roughly 30% could win.
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He frames mass shootings as ‘public suicides’ driven by isolation and purposelessness.
Rather than focusing solely on gun laws, he emphasizes community, mental health, relationships, and the widespread use of psychotropic drugs as critical underlying issues.
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Sharpe proposes eliminating K–12 in favor of K–10 plus multiple post‑16 pathways.
After a 10th‑grade exit exam, students would choose from prep school, direct associate’s degrees, trade school, immediate work, or entrepreneurship, each supported by a state ‘GI Bill’–style $20,000 education credit over five years.
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He wants to strip standardized testing (before high school) and federal control from education.
Sharpe claims early standardized tests harm kids, misjudge teachers, and distort funding; he’d remove federal dollars and regulations, cut layers of administrators, and let local boards, teachers, and parents design curricula and assessments.
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To raise revenue without higher taxes, he’d monetize and privatize maintenance of infrastructure.
Ideas include leasing naming rights to bridges, tunnels, and canal locks (e. ...
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Sharpe wants hemp and cannabis treated like onions to empower small farmers.
By fully legalizing and regulating them as ordinary crops, he aims to avoid big‑business monopolies, encourage farm‑based value‑added products, and give chronic‑pain patients non‑opioid options without heavy licensing regimes.
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He argues healthcare is broken by lack of price transparency and distorted insurance incentives.
Sharpe distinguishes healthcare from health insurance, advocates mandatory upfront pricing, supports direct‑pay or membership ‘Costco model’ clinics, and warns that single‑payer systems risk creating VA‑style, two‑tier care where the wealthy opt out.
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Notable Quotes
““I’m not concerned with being righteous, I’m concerned with happy New Yorkers.””
— Larry Sharpe
““We confuse healthcare with healthcare insurance. They are two totally separate things.””
— Larry Sharpe
““I’m not going to be hostage to a shit system. I will fight my jailer.””
— Larry Sharpe
““If I win in New York as a Libertarian, the entire nation changes overnight.””
— Larry Sharpe
““Humans want to have purpose, we want to be good at what we do, we want accolades from those we respect.””
— Larry Sharpe
Questions Answered in This Episode
How realistic is Sharpe’s K–10 plus multiple-pathways education model when it comes to implementation details, teacher buy‑in, and short‑term disruption for existing districts?
Joe Rogan interviews Larry Sharpe, the Libertarian candidate for New York governor, about his plans to radically restructure education, taxation, healthcare, and economic development in the state. ...
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Would removing $4 billion in federal education funding while trusting local boards to cut administrators actually improve classroom conditions, or risk widening inequities between districts?
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Are Sharpe’s infrastructure monetization ideas—like corporate‑branded bridges and private maintenance—politically palatable to voters, and how would contracts prevent long‑term capture or neglect?
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To what extent can loneliness, lack of purpose, and psychotropic drugs explain mass shootings compared to other factors like access to weapons, media contagion, or family breakdown?
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Does Sharpe’s libertarian approach to healthcare and regulation sufficiently protect vulnerable populations who can’t navigate markets or pay into membership models, or does it risk deepening a two‑tier system?
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Transcript Preview
Ready, five, four, three, two, one. (claps) Larry Sharp. How are you, sir?
I am doing great. Thanks for having me.
Uh, before we get started, I like you.
Oh, that's good.
I like you a lot. I like what you're saying, man.
I'm winning already.
I'm, I'm just telling you right now, up front, I've been listening to a lot of your interviews, watching a lot of your interviews.
Mm-hmm.
You make sense. You, you-
Oh my God.
It's almost like you know you can't win, so you're talking so logically, it's, you might win.
The-
(laughs)
Yeah. The, the, the, the hope is-
I believe you. (laughs)
... the, the people who actually have given up-
(laughs)
... who think it's so stupid, they don't bother voting, right? So, the, the hope is I say something that makes sense and they go, "Oh, maybe I should vote. Oh my God, maybe I should vote." If those people vote-
You win.
... I win.
Yeah, there's an untapped resource-
Mm-hmm.
... of unmotivated people who are too fu-
Absolutely.
But how do we fix that? Is it, is it a matter of getting people... I, I believe firmly that if we could get people to register and vote online-
Mm-hmm.
... especially with their phones, it changes the world.
Yes.
I really, really, really believe that, and I think that this is also a concern of the people that are in the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.
100%.
And I don't think they want that.
100%. Look, they-
I-
... they rely, they're relying on voter apathy.
They're-
They rely on that.
... also relying on people who are committed to their parties and-
Yes.
... who are politically active.
Yes.
Which is not the majority of the people.
It's the establishment, right?
Yes.
I mean, look, you asked how we fix this. Bernie and Trump actually told us this in 2016. They told us two things. Number one, if you can get people to an event, you can get them to the polling station. Number one. That's why they did a lot of events. I do over 30 events every month. I am always doing events, getting people to show up, because if I can get them to show up to my event, I can get them to a polling booth, right? 'Cause to come to s- to hear me speak, you have a lot of choices out there. You could be on Netflix, you could be hanging out with your family and friends, you could be playing a video game. You choose to come hear me speak, you'll come to the polling station. That's number one. But how do I get them to care in the first place? It's hope. The average person who votes often, right, if you vote often, you usually vote because of fear. The two-party system installs fear, right? I don't really care about my guy or gal, but I'm so afraid of the other guy, I'll go out and support my guy or gal, even though I don't know his name. I just know I don't like the red team, so I vote blue. I don't like the blue team, so I vote red. But to get someone who doesn't vote, and New York State's really bad. New York State, about 70% of New Yorkers don't vote. It's a huge chunk, over seven million New Yorkers.
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