JRE MMA Show #137 with Jorge Masvidal

JRE MMA Show #137 with Jorge Masvidal

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 27, 20242h 53m

Jorge Masvidal (guest), Narrator, Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Masvidal’s career longevity, injuries, recovery methods, and stem-cell treatmentsWeight cutting, USADA rules, IV bans, and fighter healthTechnical fight breakdowns: wrestling vs striking, calf kicks, sweeps, judging criteriaMasvidal’s upcoming fight with Gilbert Burns and title-path scenarios at welterweightRivalries and personal history: Kamaru Usman KO, Colby Covington feud, Leon EdwardsBoxing and kickboxing legends: Roy Jones Jr, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Fedor, K-1 eraGamebred Boxing promotion, bare-knuckle MMA, and debates on rules (knees to grounded opponents, back-of-head shots)Mental health, discipline, lifestyle changes, and influences like Jordan Peterson and David GogginsPolitics and economics: anti-communism, crime, law enforcement, banks, and U.S. policy

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Jorge Masvidal and Narrator, JRE MMA Show #137 with Jorge Masvidal explores jorge Masvidal on longevity, knockouts, politics, and fight promotion Jorge Masvidal joins Joe Rogan to discuss two decades in MMA, from brutal injuries, weight cuts, and stem-cell recovery to mental resilience after devastating losses. They break down technical aspects of fighting—wrestling-heavy game plans, rule sets, legendary strikers and boxers, and why some divisions and promotions thrive or stall. Masvidal also details his upcoming fight with Gilbert Burns, title ambitions against Leon Edwards, and deep bad blood with Colby Covington. The conversation widens into PEDs, USADA, bare-knuckle MMA, Masvidal’s own promotion, and strong political views shaped by his Cuban family’s experience with communism.

Jorge Masvidal on longevity, knockouts, politics, and fight promotion

Jorge Masvidal joins Joe Rogan to discuss two decades in MMA, from brutal injuries, weight cuts, and stem-cell recovery to mental resilience after devastating losses. They break down technical aspects of fighting—wrestling-heavy game plans, rule sets, legendary strikers and boxers, and why some divisions and promotions thrive or stall. Masvidal also details his upcoming fight with Gilbert Burns, title ambitions against Leon Edwards, and deep bad blood with Colby Covington. The conversation widens into PEDs, USADA, bare-knuckle MMA, Masvidal’s own promotion, and strong political views shaped by his Cuban family’s experience with communism.

Key Takeaways

Technical skill plus discipline is what allows true longevity in combat sports.

Masvidal attributes his long career to staying “natural” (no PEDs), constantly learning with a beginner’s mindset, and obsessively drilling specific positions—especially wrestling defense—rather than coasting on talent.

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Fighter health is heavily impacted by weight cuts and current anti-doping rules.

He describes brutal cuts to 155, diminished power, and how USADA’s IV ban pushed him permanently to welterweight; he argues IV rehydration and consistent global testing would be safer and fairer than the current system.

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Modern regenerative medicine can meaningfully extend fighters’ functional careers.

Masvidal recounts near-crippling hand and knee issues that dramatically improved after stem-cell treatments in the U. ...

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Rulesets strongly shape MMA’s meta-game and often favor wrestlers.

He argues that banning knees to grounded opponents and shots to the back of the head artificially protects takedown specialists, creates unrealistic positions (like “crotch-sniffing” on the knees), and would dramatically change outcomes if reversed.

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Mindset and life structure are as critical as physical training at the elite level.

After the KO loss to Usman and personal/legal issues, Masvidal admits he spiraled into a ‘dark place,’ gained weight, and leaned on Jordan Peterson and David Goggins-style self-confrontation to tighten his lifestyle, prioritize sleep, and remove negative habits.

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Promotion and storytelling can be as decisive as pure skill in career trajectories.

They discuss how personas (e. ...

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Personal history deeply shapes Masvidal’s political stance and public voice.

Raised by a Cuban father who escaped communism on a raft, Masvidal is vehemently anti-socialist, seeing parallels with current U. ...

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Notable Quotes

The moment you think you know it all, that’s it, bro—you fucked up.

Jorge Masvidal

I still haven’t got over it, brother. I wanna fucking rip Usman’s fucking brains out.

Jorge Masvidal

I was in a dark place for a long time… I went David Goggins on ’em, I went Jordan Peterson on ’em—like, ‘Bro, I’m being a fucking bitch.’

Jorge Masvidal

I’ve always felt that when communism and socialism get adopted, the only thing you’re promised is equal misery for everybody else—except the elite.

Jorge Masvidal

If you’re grabbing and trying to suck in my leg, why can’t I fucking knee you in the face?

Jorge Masvidal

Questions Answered in This Episode

How would MMA evolve if rules changed to allow knees to grounded opponents and strikes to the back of the head—would wrestling still dominate?

Jorge Masvidal joins Joe Rogan to discuss two decades in MMA, from brutal injuries, weight cuts, and stem-cell recovery to mental resilience after devastating losses. ...

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To what extent do stem cells and advanced recovery methods create an uneven playing field between fighters who can access them and those who can’t?

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Is it ethically acceptable—or even desirable—for fighters to radically reinvent their public personas (like Colby Covington) purely for attention and pay-per-view sales?

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How much responsibility do promotions like the UFC bear for fighter health regarding extreme weight cuts, IV bans, and the lack of structured education on safe cutting?

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Given Masvidal’s political views rooted in his family’s escape from communism, how should high-profile athletes balance activism and entertainment without alienating parts of their fanbase?

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Transcript Preview

Jorge Masvidal

(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator

The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays)

Joe Rogan

Looking great.

Jorge Masvidal

Thank you, sir.

Joe Rogan

Looking good.

Jorge Masvidal

War time.

Joe Rogan

Yup. King of Miami, what's up?

Jorge Masvidal

What's up, my brother?

Joe Rogan

(laughs) Good to see you, man.

Jorge Masvidal

Always a fucking pleasure.

Joe Rogan

Always a pleasure to see you too, man. Bro, I've been a fan of yours since back in the day. When I saw you-

Jorge Masvidal

Strike forces.

Joe Rogan

... fought Bodog.

Jorge Masvidal

Bodog. Nah, damn.

Joe Rogan

Yeah. Saw you fight Yves Edwards on Bodog.

Jorge Masvidal

Yes, I did.

Joe Rogan

I'm like, "Damn, this dude's fucking dangerous."

Jorge Masvidal

Yes, I did, man.

Joe Rogan

Yeah. You're, you're still in the game, man. It's, uh, it's, it's beautiful to see, you know? Crafty veterans.

Jorge Masvidal

Yeah, man. I, uh, attribute it a lot to, like, God with the gifts that I was born and also the training that I do. I never get too far away from the training. And another thing is that, uh, I, uh, I've kept it, like, natural for the most part. I've seen a lot of guys come in four or five years. They, they do a little bit of the enhancements and cheating-

Joe Rogan

Mm-hmm.

Jorge Masvidal

... and then tear this, break that, so these guys ain't around no more. I just feel like, um, I, one, I couldn't afford it when I was coming on any of that stuff, so I just never did it, you know? So I've always kept, like, my body more or less healthy. I've had injuries that are horrible, obviously, in combat sports, but I've always just been able to, like, heal through them. And it always, uh, one thing I've always believed in for the sport, for anybody listening, wanting to get into the sport and have longevity, is like as long as you know that every day you could learn something new from whoever it may be, you'll, you'll always be going forward. You know, the moment you think you know it all, that's it, bro, you fucked up, you know.

Joe Rogan

Mm.

Jorge Masvidal

So I've always had that mentality since I was young. And, uh, and I still have it to this day. You know, a white book could teach me something, or, like, a setup or something. Not necessarily maybe the greatest technique, but just a different way to do a technique and I, and I might be able to pull it off. So I've always, uh, stuck firm to that commitment, you know?

Joe Rogan

Yeah, for sure. That's very important to have that beginner's mentality. You know, what is the worst injury you've ever had?

Jorge Masvidal

Like, pain-wise? Eye poke for all of back.

Joe Rogan

Oh, yeah.

Jorge Masvidal

I, I, uh, I shot, like, a high crotch and the guy's elbow was, like, resting on his hip and it, and he just, like, locked out and, um, it went right into my thumb. His thumb went right into my eye and I was throwing up immediately. Like, 10 seconds after I started throwing up and I couldn't... I was doing, like, the Harlem shake. I couldn't control my body. I was just shaking and throwing up, it was so much pain. After that I had to wear an eye patch for about, like, five weeks because I had double vision. So I would, like, look at you and see, like, two, three of you, and that would last for, like, five weeks. So, um, I was supposed to have surgery on it and they scheduled me for surgery. I came back in and the doctor's like, "Hey, man, um, maybe you don't need surgery. You, you did amazing healing. Like, sweating's gone down a little bit. You kind of don't need the surgery." So I was like, "Oh, let me not get the surgery," and I wore that eye patch for five weeks. That, that was the most painful injury of my life. The other ones have just been, like, uh, long-lasting injuries. Like my hand is all fucking wrecked, you know? Uh, back's pretty messed up, but I get, I get through it, you know. Cold plunge, sauna, a lot of stretching, things like that. Like they're, they're, they're... I can work through it. But the eye and the hand have been, uh, the worst probably.

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