Joe Rogan Experience #1695 - Andrew Schulz

Joe Rogan Experience #1695 - Andrew Schulz

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 27, 20243h 11m

Narrator, Narrator, Joe Rogan (host), Andrew Schulz (guest), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Narrator, Joe Rogan (host)

Combat sports and physical risk (jiu-jitsu, Olympic karate, surfing, wave pools, MMA leg breaks)Stand-up comedy culture: crowds, cancel culture, clubs vs. own audience, writing processUS politics and power: Cuomo, Biden, Trump, Clinton, military‑industrial complex, AfghanistanMedia, censorship, and propaganda: China, social platforms, lab-leak discourse, woke brandingSex, scandal, and exploitation: Epstein/Maxwell, OnlyFans, NBA and celebrity sex dynamicsIdentity and culture wars: trans/non-binary discourse, QAnon, North Korea skepticismPersonal life and lifestyle: relationships, fame, childhood stardom, cars, drugs, and money

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Narrator and Narrator, Joe Rogan Experience #1695 - Andrew Schulz explores andrew Schulz, Rogan riff on comedy, chaos, power, and propaganda Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz spend a long, free‑wheeling conversation bouncing between combat sports, stand‑up comedy, politics, media manipulation, and internet culture. They open with jiu-jitsu and Olympic karate, then segue into Cuomo, Biden, #MeToo, Epstein, and how power is abused and laundered through PR and comedy. Schulz breaks down how audiences, cities, and platforms shape modern stand-up, while Rogan contrasts his need for calm with Schulz’s appetite for chaos and New York energy.

Andrew Schulz, Rogan riff on comedy, chaos, power, and propaganda

Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz spend a long, free‑wheeling conversation bouncing between combat sports, stand‑up comedy, politics, media manipulation, and internet culture. They open with jiu-jitsu and Olympic karate, then segue into Cuomo, Biden, #MeToo, Epstein, and how power is abused and laundered through PR and comedy. Schulz breaks down how audiences, cities, and platforms shape modern stand-up, while Rogan contrasts his need for calm with Schulz’s appetite for chaos and New York energy.

They dive into conspiracy-adjacent topics like North Korea, Epstein, the military‑industrial complex, and China’s influence on American culture, often using dark humor to process uncomfortable truths. Interspersed are personal stories—near-death surfing, childhood actors, relationships, cars, drugs, and the economics of OnlyFans—used to highlight how incentives drive behavior.

Overall, the episode is less a structured interview than a rolling jam session: two comics testing bits, poking at taboos, and questioning official narratives while emphasizing free speech, skepticism, and the importance of genuinely funny, uncensored comedy.

Key Takeaways

Stand-up is shaped by environment—your own crowd vs. cold club audiences require different muscles.

Schulz explains that when people come specifically for you, they accept your premise and edge; mixed club crowds (e. ...

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Maximum-effort grappling prepares you better for real conflict than “point” martial arts.

Rogan contrasts jiu-jitsu and full-resistance grappling with Olympic point-karate, arguing that training at 100% resistance conditions you to handle real altercations, whereas light-contact systems can create a false sense of effectiveness.

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Audience “wokeness” is often social pressure, not genuine morality.

Schulz notes that many New York club crowds groan at “bad words” when they’re with coworkers, but roar at the same material in his theater shows; he sees this as people managing optics rather than their true sense of humor, suggesting comics and clubs should explicitly give permission to laugh.

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Incentives and power, not ideals, often drive policy and media behavior.

They connect dots between war, defense contractors, Afghanistan, Chinese market pressure on Hollywood, and corporate “rainbow-washing,” arguing that moneyed interests use virtue branding and selective outrage to mask profit-seeking and influence operations.

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Early fame, especially for children, almost guarantees developmental damage.

Rogan recounts stories of child actors being emotionally manipulated for performances and notes how being treated as special from a young age short-circuits normal social development, which may explain later dysfunction or extreme identity moves in some adult celebrities.

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Platforms’ rules and algorithms quietly steer what kind of comedy gets made.

Schulz worries that TikTok/YouTube content rules and demonetization push young comics to self-censor to “fit the algo,” risking a repeat of neutered TV comedy—he argues for treating major platforms more like neutral utilities to preserve space for edgy, experimental material.

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Self-imposed physical hardship can be a tool to manage mental chaos.

Rogan describes using intense workouts, ice baths, and hard sparring as deliberate stressors that quiet his mind and provide perspective, in contrast to Schulz’s preference for external chaos (New York conflict, culture clashes) as creative fuel.

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Notable Quotes

Being a madam is way less gross than being a pimp—for some reason it feels like she’s easing everyone’s discomfort, but she’s probably the most savage one in the room.

Andrew Schulz

They don’t care about you because you’re doing great… It’s capitalism. There’s a market for woke outrage, and a lot of these people are just sociopaths monetizing it.

Joe Rogan

If you didn’t get pussy before you were famous, you’re gonna be in some shit. You resent women and you don’t even believe they like you now—that’s when the real scumbag behavior starts.

Andrew Schulz

At the end of every empire, gender becomes a big subject… people get obsessed with dissolving traditional roles when life gets too easy and they start looking for things to nitpick.

Joe Rogan (paraphrasing Douglas Murray)

I’m such a skeptic I’m like, ‘What if South Korea is paying people to say wild shit about North Korea so we think they’re crazy?’ Third eye, bro.

Andrew Schulz

Questions Answered in This Episode

How much of modern “wokeness” in entertainment and corporate life is genuine conviction versus a calculated business model?

Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz spend a long, free‑wheeling conversation bouncing between combat sports, stand‑up comedy, politics, media manipulation, and internet culture. ...

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Are social platforms functionally public utilities now, and if so, what kind of speech protections or obligations should they have for comedy and political discourse?

They dive into conspiracy-adjacent topics like North Korea, Epstein, the military‑industrial complex, and China’s influence on American culture, often using dark humor to process uncomfortable truths. ...

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What’s the ethical line between using dark humor to cope with real atrocities (e.g., North Korea, Epstein, war) and trivializing suffering?

Overall, the episode is less a structured interview than a rolling jam session: two comics testing bits, poking at taboos, and questioning official narratives while emphasizing free speech, skepticism, and the importance of genuinely funny, uncensored comedy.

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How should combat sports organizations and trainers balance the entertainment value of fights with the very real long-term physical and neurological risks fighters face?

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Given the financial and social incentives around OnlyFans, child stardom, and celebrity culture, what realistic guardrails—if any—could help protect more vulnerable people from exploitation?

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Narrator

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Narrator

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) And, hello Andrew.

Andrew Schulz

Hello, Joe.

Joe Rogan

Welcome to Texas.

Andrew Schulz

Aw, thank you so much.

Joe Rogan

It was good running into you last night. It was funny.

Andrew Schulz

Ah, it was so much fun. Last night was great.

Joe Rogan

It was, right?

Andrew Schulz

I choked you out, dude.

Joe Rogan

How about that spot?

Andrew Schulz

Did-

Joe Rogan

That golden tiger spot?

Andrew Schulz

Like, can we talk about me choking you out? Can we talk about my-

Joe Rogan

You tried a couple of times. It was interesting.

Andrew Schulz

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

You got a hold of my neck.

Andrew Schulz

But did you think I had power? Did you think I had like real choke power?

Joe Rogan

Uh, you could develop it.

Andrew Schulz

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

I think you can develop some real choke power.

Andrew Schulz

Oh, I got a shot immediately, dude. We're 30 seconds in.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Andrew Schulz

I just got trashed immediately.

Joe Rogan

You've got a good build for jiu-jitsu. You're a tall guy.

Andrew Schulz

Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan

You got long limbs.

Andrew Schulz

Okay.

Joe Rogan

That's really good for jiu-jitsu.

Andrew Schulz

Okay. Nah.

Joe Rogan

If you see like some of the greatest of all time, like Roger Gracie-

Andrew Schulz

Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan

... he's got these really long arms and, uh, yeah, there's a lot of guys like that.

Andrew Schulz

Okay, okay, okay.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz

Okay. But it was fun.

Joe Rogan

Aurelio De Stema, same build.

Andrew Schulz

Hmm.

Joe Rogan

Long limbs, good chokes.

Andrew Schulz

I'll be honest, I thought it would be easier. 'Cause I've never tried to choke somebody.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz

So then when you let me, like, do it, I'm like, "All right. I got this easy." And then I was gonna, like, take it easy on you. I wasn't, you know, gonna really-

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz

... get you outta there. And, um, I was shocked how I couldn't get under your chin.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz

It, yeah.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz

That shocked me.

Joe Rogan

Why was that shocking?

Andrew Schulz

Well, I don't know. I figured your chin is here, I just get the arm under and then once I'm under the chin, it's over. That's how it looks like in all the fights.

Joe Rogan

You should try it with Gordon. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz

I would definitely take out Gordon.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Andrew Schulz

Gordon was there. Shouts at Gordon, shouts at Gordon. And I was nice to him but I was gonna choke the shit out of him, I told him that. I did tell him that.

Joe Rogan

You did. You told him today, too.

Andrew Schulz

I told him today and I said, and I pulled him aside and I was like, "Listen, I understand your girl is here."

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Andrew Schulz

"And outta respect for her, I'm not gonna choke the shit outta you." But he was getting his blood test and I almost choked the shit out of him. I told him.

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