JRE MMA Show #107 with Georges St-Pierre

JRE MMA Show #107 with Georges St-Pierre

The Joe Rogan ExperienceJun 27, 20243h 34m

Georges St-Pierre (guest), Joe Rogan (host), Narrator, Narrator, Narrator

Free will, determinism, discipline, and inspirationAdversity, confidence, and raising kids through hardship versus comfortMMA vs boxing development models, UFC business model, and fighter safety/CTETraining philosophy: playful sparring, reaction-time science, and career longevityGreatness, GOAT debates, and why most fighters should probably quit earlierHealth, ulcerative colitis, fasting, and experimenting with diets like carnivoreHuman future: AI, lost civilizations, pyramids, UFOs, and existential risks

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, featuring Georges St-Pierre and Joe Rogan, JRE MMA Show #107 with Georges St-Pierre explores georges St-Pierre on fear, greatness, brain damage, and lost civilizations Georges St-Pierre joins Joe Rogan for a long-form conversation spanning fighting psychology, training philosophy, fighter safety, and human potential. They delve into free will versus determinism, the role of inspiration and adversity in building discipline, and how champions are developed—and destroyed—by training habits and management. GSP breaks down technical “secret weapons” from his career, his views on MMA rules and fighter pay, and why he retired on top despite pressure to return. The discussion widens into AI risks, ancient civilizations, UFOs, and how fragile modern society is compared to our ancestors.

Georges St-Pierre on fear, greatness, brain damage, and lost civilizations

Georges St-Pierre joins Joe Rogan for a long-form conversation spanning fighting psychology, training philosophy, fighter safety, and human potential. They delve into free will versus determinism, the role of inspiration and adversity in building discipline, and how champions are developed—and destroyed—by training habits and management. GSP breaks down technical “secret weapons” from his career, his views on MMA rules and fighter pay, and why he retired on top despite pressure to return. The discussion widens into AI risks, ancient civilizations, UFOs, and how fragile modern society is compared to our ancestors.

Key Takeaways

Discipline lives in the tension between determinism and free will.

Genetics, upbringing, and environment shape who we are, but GSP and Rogan argue that key life moments—choosing to do the work, to change, to overcome—reflect an element of agency. ...

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Adversity, faced progressively, builds confidence and resilience.

GSP believes kids and athletes need hardship in controlled doses; overprotection produces fragility. ...

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Most fighters leave their careers in the gym, not in the cage.

Hard, ego-driven sparring, especially repeated head trauma, destroys longevity and cognition. ...

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The UFC’s brand-first model shapes matchmaking and careers.

Unlike boxing’s fighter-centric, careful build-up, the UFC promotes its own brand and regularly books 50/50 fights. ...

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Greatness requires relentless self-critique—and knowing when to stop.

Champions like GSP are hyper-critical of their own performances, which drives constant improvement but also makes it painful to continue past their prime. ...

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Intelligent training uses science, not just toughness.

GSP describes using frame-by-frame video analysis to measure opponents’ reaction and reset times, designing feint-heavy strategies (e. ...

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Our civilization is fragile—and not the first advanced one.

They discuss CTE from sports, pandemic fragility, super-volcanoes, and asteroid impacts, pivoting into Gobekli Tepe, pyramids, and lost knowledge. ...

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Notable Quotes

If you never faced adversity before, when you face it for the first time and you're not prepared, it can break you.

Georges St-Pierre

You don't play fighting. You play basketball, you play baseball. Fighting, you can really lose everything.

Georges St-Pierre

The day that you're satisfied, choose to do something else.

Georges St-Pierre (quoting CT Fletcher)

Success makes you weak. It makes you forget that you’re not invincible.

Georges St-Pierre

If you’re not trying to be the best in the world anymore, you should probably get out.

Joe Rogan

Questions Answered in This Episode

How much of elite athletic discipline can be trained versus being innate, and how should that shape youth coaching?

Georges St-Pierre joins Joe Rogan for a long-form conversation spanning fighting psychology, training philosophy, fighter safety, and human potential. ...

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Where is the ethical line between building a fighter’s career slowly for safety and throwing them into deep waters for authentic competition?

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Given what we know now about CTE and brain trauma, should combat sports’ rules or equipment (like gloves and rounds) be fundamentally redesigned?

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How can everyday people apply GSP’s ideas about playful training and nervous-system management to improve in non-combat fields?

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If evidence for older advanced civilizations solidifies, how should that change the way we think about human progress, risk, and the role of technology and AI?

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Transcript Preview

Georges St-Pierre

(drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) How many times a week you have a guest on your show that ... You have some, uh, times that you have two guests, uh, during a day?

Joe Rogan

It's rare. But, uh-

Georges St-Pierre

It happened?

Joe Rogan

... I did it once last week and then today.

Georges St-Pierre

Wow.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Georges St-Pierre

That, that burns you, uh-

Joe Rogan

Nah.

Georges St-Pierre

... to death now?

Joe Rogan

Nah, it's just talking. It's no big deal.

Georges St-Pierre

I, I, I, you know-

Joe Rogan

We up?

Narrator

Yeah.

Joe Rogan

Yeah, okay, go ahead.

Georges St-Pierre

It's insane, you know.

Joe Rogan

Why is it insane?

Georges St-Pierre

Because, man, it's, uh, uh, sometimes I ... You know, I, I can train all day.

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Georges St-Pierre

You know? But if I do something like this, like, uh, like in, like, uh, uh, autograph signing or any, like, things that require more, uh, I would say, um, you know, meet and greets and stuff like that, that take more out of me than a physical, something physical like a training, you know?

Joe Rogan

That's just 'cause you're accustomed to training all the time. It's like everything else. Like, the m- the more accustomed to it you are, the easier it is.

Georges St-Pierre

Man. Anyway, you, you look fantastic. You, you, you-

Joe Rogan

Thanks. You, you too.

Georges St-Pierre

You haven't-

Joe Rogan

I like them.

Georges St-Pierre

You haven't aged a bit. You're like, uh, wine.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Georges St-Pierre

You get better with age.

Joe Rogan

I like the frosted tips, man. What are you doing?

Georges St-Pierre

Uh, I changed my, uh, my style.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Georges St-Pierre

You know when you get older, you try to look younger and when you're-

Joe Rogan

Right.

Georges St-Pierre

... younger, you try to look, uh, older.

Joe Rogan

Right, that's true. Like, young guys try to grow beards.

Georges St-Pierre

That's right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

It's like, come on man, let it go.

Georges St-Pierre

I just shaved them.

Joe Rogan

(laughs)

Georges St-Pierre

I had, I wa- I, I had Lex Freeman podcast yesterday.

Joe Rogan

Yes.

Georges St-Pierre

And I told my ... So I said, "You know what? It would look, it will look weird if I appears on both podcasts in Austin with the same style." You know? So I ... It's better that I sh- so w- when they put it on, uh, on the social media, at least it's kind of a different look, so. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

I saw with Lex you wore the suit and tie just like him, right?

Georges St-Pierre

Men in, Men in Black style. That's right.

Joe Rogan

Nice. Nice. Reservoir Dogs.

Georges St-Pierre

Yes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan

Yeah.

Georges St-Pierre

Exactly.

Joe Rogan

Look at that. (laughs)

Georges St-Pierre

(laughs)

Joe Rogan

Look at you too. I love Lex. He's, he's, uh-

Georges St-Pierre

Man.

Joe Rogan

... such a great guy.

Georges St-Pierre

He's amazing. I, I, I really enjoy talking to guys like this because you don't meet people like this every day.

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